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AllenforGOD:
Sorry is ur name,jesus died to justify all

yinmu

That sounds like paganic.

Nonybb:
When will FG (Fulani Government) charge the murderers of Deborah in Sokoto too

her murderer hasn't being caught.


There is no evidence that those who were arrested took part in it

AllenforGOD:
If jesus didnt die 4 u ,do you think u would have been alive today

weren't people alive before him?

Dtruthspeaker:
Watch them closely, they use the clean parts of their clothes and not the oil caked dirty part..

inshort Jesus never do for anybody.

He has already taught people what they must do to have enternal Life

advocatejare:
Sahih Hadith, authentic. Don’t be ashamed of what your prophet did.

that is why I'm asking u which Sahih cos it contradicted the Quran verse that allowed flogging

advocatejare:
It’s because the Quran you are reading today is not complete. Aisha reported that a sheep ate that part of the Quran

Sunan Ibn Majah 1944
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
“The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame [b]sheep came in and ate it.”[/b]

One of the lame fake Hadith to the enemies of Islam like to use.

So sheep knew where the paper is under pillow in the room?

So sheep in your father house eats paper?

advocatejare:
That means muhammad was misguided to have stoned adulterers to death

that means the prophet cannot go against that verse concerning punishment for adultery.

advocatejare:
Muhammad was a copy copy master so he copied that from the Moses’ law.

Heheeh Moses law requires adulterers to be killed and Muhammed law requires flogging.

So how did he copied it?

advocatejare:
We know that Satan is the father of lies, the same title of Allah

"You are of your father the devil, and you
want to carry out your father's desires. He was
a murderer from the beginning and does not
stand in the truth, because there is no truth in
him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his
own nature, because he is a liar and the
father of lies."
-John 8:44


In the Quran:
Allah is not only a deceiver but the best of
the deceivers, the same title of Satan, the
father of lies.


Quran 8:30
wa-idh yamkuru bika alladhīna kafarū liyuth'bitūka aw yaqtulūka aw yukh'rijūka wayamkurūna wayamkuru l-lahu wal-lahu khayru l-mākirīna

And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers.

mākirīna is from (مَكْر [makr] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile.

here I know your type


If you used deceit for that ayah,u will just translate rubbish cos deceive ain't go with it at all


And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.

They planned to restrain,kill and evict the prophet but the plan of Allah is above their plan

Nigga can u tell me the quranic translation version u saw deceit in the verse?


Now back to Yahweh the OG of deceivers

Jeremiah 4:10 Then I said, “Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats


This verse even aligned with your word of Satan being father of liar, Yahweh too

Jeremiah 4:10

Then I said, “Ah, Lord God! Surely You have utterly deceived this people [/b]and Jerusalem, [b]saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.

Yahweh deceived and lied to Jerusalem


Kings 22:23

Now therefore, behold, the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the Lord has proclaimed disaster against you.

No wonder Nigeria pastors are like this

advocatejare:
Did Muhammad serve Yahweh or Allah?

Why can’t you give us the evidence for Muhammad’s action in the Quran, why quote the Bible?

nigga ain't u proud of what Yahweh allowed before?

Well u want evidence from the Quran,then u will be given.

Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom your right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee.

Those are right hand possesess in Islam

There are many other verses for it but let me stop here.

advocatejare:
Yes that was why he was begging Hafsa not to tell other people.
If he was proud of his action, if his action was legitimate, he wouldn’t have begged Hafsa not to expose his sexual escapades!

nigga I'm asking about the evidence of pant down.

And how can u be blaming the prophet (saw) for sexual escapades and not do the same to Yahweh prophet like Abraham, Moses, Samuel,Jacob,David, Solomon and so on?

Is he not a human?

Or he shouldn't like sex just because he is a prophet?

advocatejare:
The two hadith are graded sahih with multiple chains of narrations, so if you’re getting confused then that is Islam for you, confusion!

well it is Hadith and it is not 100% reliable,that ain't a thing just like Bible.

advocatejare:
Because Muhammad was even ashamed of himself and begged not to be exposed!

Ashamed of what exactly

Maria the Coptic was his right hand possesess and even born him a son

advocatejare:
Is your God Yahweh or Allah?

is Yahweh not allowing us to have sex with our female slave again?

advocatejare:
You should tell us. Since you are comparing Solomon’s with Muhammad. Solomon never claimed to be a prophet like false prophet Muhammad!

hehehe aint Solomon important to your Yahweh again?


The song of Solomon y'all use in church was written by him and according y'all Christians,all Bible verses are inspiration of God, that means Solomon is even more than a prophet.


He even built a temple for Yahweh plus the Jews referred him as one of the prophet of Jewish origin

And also his father David also had a concubine and he was referred as prophet in the Bible

advocatejare:
It was Sarah herself that voluntarily gave her maid to Abraham.

to have sex with her without marriage,so how is that a thing?

advocatejare:
Abraham was honorable to have the consent of his wife and Hagar unlike the coward Muhammad that raped his wife’s slave on his wife’s bed when the wife was away!

hehehe what a mumu,he doesn't need his wife consent to have sexual with his slave cos even Yahweh never mentioned that.


Plus Hagar was still called his concubine despite that and not only that,keturah was also his concubine


Read your Bible first before saying rubbish.

ogbuefi677:
Hausa/Fulani will forever remain a security threat everywhere they're in large numbers.
The same ppl who killed and set Deborah on fire.
Same ppl who killed and set d sound engineer on fire.
Same ppl who set DeiDei market on fire.
Next thing they start shouting Allah akbar,and next is mayhem.
Divide Nigeria joor

them and their ibo brothers always cause violence.

The same people that killed harira and her four kids

Dtruthspeaker:
Mechanics don't clean, they cause the dirt that we car owners have to clean by taking it to the car wash.

The car wash people clean and they use clean sponges, clean wipes and clean water to clean.

So, you are talking complete rubbish.

so they don't clean oil pressure gauge if they want to clean the oil?

LesbianBoy:
This mane agent no try at all

I still can't believe mane earns 'just' 100k per week after all the work he did in Liverpool. While look at Chelsea people wey no dey play dey collect 200k weekly

imagine that ain't right

And salah is earning more than him

advocatejare:
You’re a liar like Allah the Al makireena the best of the deceivers!

u mean Yahweh?


Cos Bible let us know how he deceived people.

advocatejare:
The outcome of the rape was the pregnancy that led to the birth of ibrahim. Muhammad didn’t marry her before sleeping with her!

rape?

Must u marry your slave before having sex with her again?

Or can't u marry your slave again?


Or is Yahweh never talked about that?


If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death

Leviticus 19:20

advocatejare:
When Mohammed was caught pant down raping Hafsa's slave girl and Hafsa caught him red-handed, Mohammed sworn to Hafsa that he won't sleep with the slave girl anymore and he begged Hafsa not to tell anybody about the disgraceful act but Hafsa eventually told Aisha and Aisha was also furious and angry with Mohammed and as usual Allah the puppet came to bail Mohammed the god out by revealing the two verses below.

hmmmm story teller, evidence of that.


Caught her pant down
Hmmmm

advocatejare:
"And when the Prophet confided to one of his wives a statement; and when she informed [another] of it and Allah showed it to him, he made known part of it and ignored a part. And when he informed her about it, she said, Who told you this? He said, I was informed by the Knowing, the Acquainted."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 3)

"If you two [wives] repent to Allah, [it is best], for your hearts have deviated. But if you cooperate against him - then indeed Allah is his protector, and Gabriel and the righteous of the believers and the angels, moreover, are [his] assistants."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 4)


It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse.
Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959.

hehehe if u check Hadith Sahih Muslim 3496,u will see that the reason for that verses u posted below was there,concerning hafsa and Aisha but Sahih Muslim didn't mention any slave but about Honey stuff.

So the authentic for these the reason for the verse can't be known cos both the Hadith contradicted btw the ayah and let assume the prophet had sex with the slave.

How is it an adultery,or Yahweh never allowed it again?

advocatejare:
66.1 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
O Prophet! Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you, in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Māriyaَ— when he lay with her in the house of Hafsa, who had been away, but who upon returning [and finding out] became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed — byَ saying,َ‘Sheَ isَ unlawfulَ forَ me!’,َ seeking,َ byَ makingَ herَ unlawfulَ [forَ you],َ toَ pleaseَ yourَ wives?َ Andَ God is Forgiving, Merciful, having forgiven you this prohibition.

and?

Where do think Solomon used to have sex with his 300 concubine ?

advocatejare:
If Maria was Muhammad’s wife and not a slave he raped on Hafsa’s bed, why did he swear not to ever sleep with her again?

Of course because he knew that he did a very shameful thing!

and that is why I'm asking u didn't Yahweh allowed to have sex with slave that belongs to us again?


As far as the slave is not bethroned to another man,u can smash her and how is that a problem?


A man should not have sex with a slave if she is betrothed to another man - but if they do, she is to be scourged (beaten) and he must sacrifice a sheep (Leviticus 19:20-22, KJV).


If she is not bethroned to someone,then u can smash her with her consent,that ain't rape or adultery.


If she does not satisfy her owner(sexually), he must allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her

Exodus 21:8



And even Abraham your father of faith did it with her maid Hagar and how is that an adultery?

advocatejare:
A Sahih hadith is what you call fake?

which sahih?


Cos it contradicted Qur'an


As for female and male fornicators, give each of them one hundred lashes,and do not let pity for them make you lenient in ˹enforcing˺ the law of Allah, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a number of believers witness their punishment.

Surah24:2


Unlike Bible that ordered their death.

advocatejare:
Show us the Quranic verse

As for female and male fornicators, give each of them one hundred lashes,and do not let pity for them make you lenient in ˹enforcing˺ the law of Allah, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a number of believers witness their punishment.

Surah24:2

Unlike law introduced by Yahweh the father of Jesus



Leviticus 20:10

“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

advocatejare:
He slept with Maria the Copt aka Qibitiyya, a slave of Hafsa on Hafsa’s bed

ain't u dumb nigga?

Maria the copt was the prophet wife/mother of child given to him by a Christian governor of Alexandria, Egypt.

So how is it an adultery?

Abi somebody cannot have nothing to do with the slave he was given again?




Or ain't Yahweh never allowed it again?

advocatejare:
Show reference for this lie

The commentary of al-Ahzaab 33:37 talked about it.

Zaynab sees herself of being high-class than Zayd and the relationship between them wasn't good.

advocatejare:
Maria Qibitiyya was not his wife. She was Hafsa’s wife and he raped her on Hafsa’s bed

aint u a dumb nigga?

So your hatred for Islam make u stupid like this?

Is hafsa a man?

TenQ:
People of the Religion of Taqqiyya are disturbed that a sinner is forgiven.

them how come Adam and Eve that ate fruit weren't forgiven?


Which sinner is forgiven?


Where was the nigga she committed adultery with?

TenQ:
Since Allah has succeeded in deceiving his people, what else do I have to say?
Allah is indeed the best deciever!

u mean Yahweh deceit?


Jer.4.10

Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! Surely, thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall have peace; whereas the sword reacheth unto the soul.


Ez.14.9
And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.


You deceived me, Lord, and I was deceived"
Jeremiah 20:7

Dtruthspeaker:
Because it is a Clean Cloth (Righteous) that is used to wipe a cherished dirty thing (Sinner) .

lame comment.

Mechanics used dirty cloth to wipe w cherished dirty thing too

wellmax:
You want to misinterprete the Bible to me?

how am I misinterpreted the Bible?

Didn't he said that?

wellmax:
Jesus saves from sin and Satan. He saves from the power of sin and hell.

oh u mean that is where is only saves.


Lying ass


Romans 10:13

for,“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

Why has chibok girls that are calling his name haven't been saved?

wellmax:
When saints face persecution, if He wills, He delivers and spares their life.

but he didn't save any of the saints.

Some of his disciples died a pain death.

wellmax:
Matthew 24:9 says;
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
Verse 11
But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
He's definitely not talking about saving from physical death, but saving from eternal death.

but he said whatever u ask in his name would be done

New Living Translation

You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, so that the Son can bring glory to the Father-john 14:13


Use Jesus name and tell Jesus to save chibok girls in Boko Haram den.

wellmax:
When you die, do you know we're you are going? Do you have hope of eternal life? This is what Jesus gives.

Jesus never gives enternal Life but taught what will make u have enternal Life.

One man came to Jesus about enternal Life


New International Version

18 A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?

19 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.
20 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.

Luke 18:18-0

Fellow this and will have enternal Life.

wellmax:
He is the prince of peace. Peace personified.
Not some dead fellow you have to wish peace upon everytime.

the peace he said he didn't bring

wellmax:
The passage you wrongly quotes is talking about is the peace of a united Jewish religion. In other words, Jesus' message will naturally create division; this "sword" will divide the world into those who believe in Him and those who do not. His arrival will bring great conflict as those who reject Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God will turn in hatred against those who hear and believe (1 Peter 4:3–4; John 15:18–21), including the members of one's own family.

hmmmm well continue saying rubbish.

wellmax:
Know Jesus and know life.

I already know life without Jesus.

wellmax:
From all the religions in Nigeria today, you know those who have been responsible for all violence, bloodshed, killings and hate.

Like the people that kill,burn and eat Muslims flesh in jos during eid, Right?


Like the people that killed harira and his four children?

wellmax:
Jesus can save you

tell him to save the chibok girls

wellmax:
Jesus brings peace.

how many u still be saying this?


He didn't bring any peace.

wellmax:
John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

so he is lying here, right?



Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword” Matthew 10:34



New Living Translation
Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other-,luke 12:51




Keep deceving yourself there

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post!

not a change of post.


Why would a righteous man died for the sins of sinners?

TenQ:
Your ignorance is well exhibited as Jesus is master over the laws of Moses!

Here is what the law of Moses says!
Deu 19:21:
"And your eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot."

Here is what the Law of Christ say
Mat 5:38-39:
"You have heard that it has been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say to you, That you resist not evil: but whoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Moses does not even have the power to forgive sin except God. Hear what Jesus said to a man

Mat 9:2:
"A man on a bed, a paralytic, was brought to Jesus. Seeing their faith Jesus said to the sick man:»Have courage; your sins are forgiven"

Mat 9:6: "So that you know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins he turned and spoke to the paralytic or paralyzed man: Get up, take your bed and go to your house.«"
.


Hear another law from Jesus
Mat 5:27-28:
"»You have heard it was said, 'You should not commit adultery.' However, I tell you that whoever looks at a woman with lustful thoughts commits adultery with her in his heart."

Hear another law of Christ

Mat 5:31-32:
"It has been said, Whoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorce: But I say to you, That whoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery."

Oga stop blabbing!


Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. [/b]For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17–18)


Is like u don't read your own Bible



And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, [b]keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (Matthew 19: 16-19)

TenQ:
People of the Religion of Taqqiyya are disturbed that a sinner is forgiven

hehehe as far as the man that committed adultery with her wasn't there,then she wasn't a adulterer.

So nigga like saraki got got again just like 2018

Dtruthspeaker:
You are just looking for something to say. As I said, you would not wait for portable to kill you first before you know that you should run from him.

so calling a killer be that?

Inshort Jesus the man sent to the lost sheep of isreal never died for any sins,that sounds paganism.

Dtruthspeaker:
Like you wait for them to kill you first before you avoid them you have no thing reasonable and valid to say.

mtchw shut your lying ass up.

How many people has the like of portable,small doctor and all those celebrities thug killed?

TenQ:
So why DO YOU THINK the Jews did not ALSO bring the man?

Here was what Jesus said to the woman

John 8:10-11:
"When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said to her, Woman, where are those your accusers? has no man condemned you? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more."

this verse means the woman didn't committed any adultery but they just want to use her to test Jesus.

TenQ:
Why would Jesus tell the woman to go and SIN NO MORE?

because if she actually committed adultery,she and the unknown man would be punished

TenQ:
Only Muslims get irritated by LOVE to God and Humanity. Their joy would have been that Jesus authorised the KILLING of the WOMAN so that they can JUSTIFY the law of Mohammed on killing adulterers!

what a joke if the woman committed adultery,the woman would be punished cos Jesus Never came to abolish Moses law.



So the woman never do sh.t,u cannot punished the adulteress and leave the adulterer.





Leviticus 20:10-12

"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, [b]both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death.[/b]

Where are the pastors wey get raise dead?

TenQ:
No sir!
The woman was caught in Adultery BUT they let the man escape. Their hypocrisy does not mind executing judgement on the woman alone

where is it written in the Bible that the man escape?

wellmax:
Only Jesus can save.
He is also the prince of peace.

Those who profess Him but do not know Him always do otherwise.

Which save and which peace ?

Jesus that cannot save Deborah and himself from cross!



And which peace u talking about



Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword” Matthew 10:34 (KJV).

TenQ:
I don't know what you are getting at
Jesus saw through the hypocrisy of the Jews who brought out the woman for judgement!
Where is the man?

Same with the hypocrisy of even modern Muslims. When Deborah was slaughtered, did they present the proof of her blasphemy before her? No! Hearsay was enough! The religion of peace and lies !

that means Jesus know the woman didn't committed adultery,they just want to test Jesus, right?

TenQ:
Jesus saw through their hypocrisy!
Where is the man?

But Jesus showed the dimension of God with respect to the law. The interest of God is a changed live not just obedience to the law.
"Go and sin no more "!

yinmu

The man that the woman committed adultery with wasn't there,why?

advocatejare:
He quoted the verse that shows Jesus as the mercy to the world and not someone who came to condemn people to death.

which mercy and which mercy.

Jesus said and I quote,I wasn't sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


The man that the woman committed adultery with, where was he ?

advocatejare:
Jesus told the woman to go and sin no more. The woman had the chance to repent and live a meaningful life.

where was the man she committed adultery with?

advocatejare:
But 600 years later, Muhammad that you lie to people as mercy to the world, stoned adulterers to death, he didn’t give them chance to repent

what a lie and fake Hadith?



The Quranic punishment for adultery is 100 cane unlike Bible that introduced stoning.

advocatejare:
Muhammad himself was an adulterer who should have been stoned to death like he did others.

how was he an adulterer?

advocatejare:
Muhammad coveted the wife of his adopted son

zaynab divorced Zayd when the relationship between them wasn't working,and they divorced and Allah instructed to marry the prophet,so what u saying?

advocatejare:
Muhammad desecrated the bed of Hafsa his wife by raping Hafsa’s bed on her bed!

raping his own legally married wife?

Nigga is u serious?

TenQ:
The offence:

"Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"

where is the man she did adultery with?

Abi na only women be sinner when it comes to adultery?

wellmax:
One major difference between Christianity and other religions is ..."It is not my will that anyone should perish, but to come to repentance.".

Other religions just condemn you to death.

Only Jesus can save.

says by a Person that his religion had an history of burning, killing.

Willam tynsdale came to mind

AntiChristian:
But....

Did the Bible call that lady a prostitute?

I mean did she collect any fee for her service?

You just quote the verse that approves sin for all and also stopped punishment for sinners.

don't mind them

Plus where was the man she committed adultery with

Dtruthspeaker:
Everyone knows that a thug is just a killer in training!

Oga not all thugs are Killer.

Your argument is lame as fvck

When u thought you have seen it all

Dtruthspeaker:
Is minus (-), plus (+)? How can people who take life bring Life? Just go and sit down quietly with your miserable life.

and a thug?

Nigga shut the fvck up!


Which stupid life u talking about?