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TenQ:
Concerning your picture, Do you know what a water SPRING is?
How different is a Spring from a Sea/Ocean?
What is the name of the largest Spring in the world?


Muslims will say:
Don't confuse me with the truth, I have made up my mind

where did Quran make mentioned of water spring?


U are using the fabricated Hadith From Abu dawud to say this.

TenQ:
Thank you for this hadith. It is a VERY authentic hadith.

It is also backed up by the Qur'an



Sunan Abi Dawud 4002
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where these sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).

حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، وَعُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ بْنِ مَيْسَرَةَ، - الْمَعْنَى - قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ بْنِ حُسَيْنٍ، عَنِ الْحَكَمِ بْنِ عُتَيْبَةَ، عَنْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ التَّيْمِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي ذَرٍّ، قَالَ كُنْتُ رَدِيفَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله


Compton11,
mhmsadyq,
2dominate,
Antichristian

Why don't you step back and ask relevant questions about your faith. Any religion based on lies will lead you only to hell. Must you defend verifiable untruths?

hehehe u said it is very authentic,if u look at it very well u see it was narrated by any dhar that narrated the first two and this Hadith is nothing but fabricated that even contradicted the first two


Enjoy

Ojuntana:
Show were Boko haram ever said they are following the Bible

do they have to say it?

The crusaders,kkk,Lord resistance that cause wahala in the name of Christianity never say they were following Bible too

Ojuntana:
You're God's slave and you believe being God's slave is synonymous with poverty.

where did I said that?

Ojuntana:
Well, I guess Dangote is not a slave to God then since he is not poor. You unfortunate soul.

dangote is slave and u that claimed to be son,he is richer than your entire families

Ojuntana:
Slave of God while your fellow mortal is enjoying yet you're so comfortable with bondage you want to coopt others into it.

hehehe many Christians that u said they are comfortable ain't comfor shi.t


The era if buhari shake them and they felt it.

Ojuntana:
Well, the sonship and daughtership of Christians to God is not based on the materials acquisition. It is based on a deep and personal relationship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ain't it the reason why Bible eventually called u slave of God?

If u are free from sins,then u are slave of God!

Ojuntana:
You can keep quoting the Bible upside down like your fellow terrorists. It shows how obsessed you guys are with the superiority of the Christian doctrine

Christian get doctrine?

Well confused one though

Ojuntana:
Here is Rom 8:16

So you see, we are not only slaves to God but more than that, sons and also heirs to His kingdom where you will be slaves only. With this, I can comfortably say you're my slave

so the one I quoted earlier was wrong?


How can u be slaves and still be son to one person?

Ojuntana:
Lol. You're asking where Abubakar shekau and Bin Laden quoted the Quran and hadith to justify their terrorism? Are you for real? Something that is all over the net? Let me help you with some
https://www.cairn-int.info/article-E_AFCO_255_0043--the-words-of-boko-haram.htm

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/170441-full-transcript-of-shekaus-latest-video-on-ceasefire-deal-chibok-girls.html

https://www.google.com/url?esrc=s&q=&rct=j&sa=U&url=https://irp.fas.org/world/para/post.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjn6PrY15H4AhUlg2MGHcp9B48QFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw33F19BHms-IbQBZWtVL_fw

There are many More

then pls let me see the Qur'an and Hadith that justify kidnapping girls like I did with Bible

Ojuntana:
I'll be waiting for your links on ESN, Lord's Army and KKK using the Bible to justify and preach their ideologies.

didn't they fight in the name of Christianity?

Ojuntana:
I don't also know what you mean by human sacrifice when the supposed human that was "sacrificed is alive".

alive?

The one that Bible said he died

Ojuntana:
Is it not better that Jesus allowed himself to be killed than your Muhammad who went about killing innocent people who did him no wrong just so he could inherit their wives?

Where is that in the Qur'an that prophet Muhammed killed innocent people and inherited their wife?

That sounds like Moses of Bible stuff.

Plus how do u know Jesus was never a terrorist?

Do u know about his life from age of 19 to 39

Ojuntana:
I think you need to check your religion well before making some statements

the last but not the least


Jesus didn't bring peace.


Think not that I am come to send peace on earth : I came not to send peace, but a sword” Matthew 10:34


Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other!

Luke 12:51

TenQ:
Qur'an 18:86
Until, when
1. he reached the setting of the sun,
2. he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and
3. he found near it a people.
4. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."

According to Allah Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting of the sun.
Where is this setting place?

According to Allah, Dhul-Qarnayn FOUND the sun setting in a SPRING of dark mud
If Allah can make this blunder: can he be God?

According to Allah, Dhul-Qarnayn found the setting sun and dark mud beside a people.
Where is this place on the earth? Is there really a setting place of the sun?

u are diverting do from the main topic in this comment.
We are talking about beside muddy water stuff here,and the picture below will answer u concerning that.

TenQ:
I said that Allah did not know that the earth is NOT flat. If he had known this, Allah would not have said that Dhul-Qarnayn saw the setting place of the sun.

u are diverting do from the main topic in this comment.[/quote]how is that concern with earth being not flat?


And Yahweh see earth as flat

So pathetic

TenQ:
Till tomorrow, we use the four cardinal points of the earth even scientifically. The four cardinal point is not assuming that the earth is flat.

and four corner?

Corner is for something that is flat

And u know damn well circle don't have corner

TenQ:
"AS IF" doesn't exist anywhere in the Arabic

so u are now Arabic professor with your Google translate?

TenQ:
وجدها means FOUND IT

hmmm Arabic scholar

TenQ:
Allah said exactly whaynDhul Qurnain saw. The sun setting in muddy waters.

وجدها

so,ain't that what I'm talking before?

Dhul qurnain saw the sun like that!

TenQ:
Yes. As pathetic as it sounds for someone who truely doesn't know

na u are ignorant

TenQ:
Yes!
Because Allah said Dhul Qurnain saw a people there. Did Allah not say this?

mmmm

TenQ:
Yes.
Because Allah was reporting about Dhul-Qarnayn. Check ayah 83. Allah volunteeredbto tell Mohammed about Dhul-Qarnayn

And?

TenQ:
Allah said Dhul-Qarnayn met a people beside the muddy waters

Nah don't say rubbish,what that ayah means is he saw people in where he saw sun as if it set in the muddy water.


Are u saying the place is only water or u think the water is Small water?


Or the first picture I sent to,is there no Land beside it?

TenQ:
Did Allah not instruct Dhul-Qarnayn on what to do with the people?

Is it part of the topic?

TenQ:
Be feigning ignorance!
Allah could boastfully describe Dhul-Qarnayn's story because he doesn't know better.

hmmmm Yahweh that know better,ain't he the one Bible Said rumors was heard from him?

TenQ:
You seem not to understand the implications of these hadiths. It Means that the throne of Allah is in our solar system. We can locate where Allah is within the solar axis of the sun. Meaning that Allah is a physical being that is so small that the sun goes under and over him and...

I'm ashamed!

so the white people that research about solar system knows everything!

Chai

TenQ:
The hadith is not about murky waters but about the limitations of Allah! And the ignorance of Mohammed if the hadith came from him.

u mean ignorance of Yahweh that didn't know where Adam and Eve hide when they ate the fruit?

TenQ:
1. Does the sun have a resting place? (The resting place must be the throne of Allah)

we dont know the secret of how rest under the throne of Allah and We do not posses sufficient enough knowledge of the unseen to be able to unravel its secrets

TenQ:
2. Does the sun ever remain static at any point? (Under the throne of Allah)

the Throne of Allah is part of the unseen as is its location.

So guessing how it would be like is impossible

TenQ:
And Dhul-Qarnayn found a people there?
How different is that picture from the normal horizon?

wait,is it only water that existed in where he went?

Why are u arguing ignorantly?

TenQ:
Sorry dear. Allah doesn't know that the earth is not flat!

where did Allah said that earth is flat



Earth is flat sounds like Bible stuff not Quran



Revelation 7:1

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree




Isaiah 11:12
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He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth

PlayMaker14:
That should be Acrimony...

It was as if I was the one playing the lead role..

u mean u like that stupid ass Tyler Perry movie?

The film never make sense to me

Cc: TenQ

These two pictures are the examples of how it looked in the eyes of dhul qurnain

TenQ:
Did I invent Surat al-khal and
Surat al-Hafd?

if u want to be anti-islam, at least have knowledge,don't be an ignorant.


Did ever see suratul al-hafd and khal in the Qur'an?

TenQ:
Let's solve the ambiguity

1. Qur'an 18:83
And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about Dhul-Qarnayn. Say, "I will recite to you about him a report."


People especially the Jews knew about the person called Dhul-Qarnayn and they were questioning Mohammed about Him. Allah says HE WILL recite to Mohammed the Report of what happened
From here we have no dispute about who was narrating the history of Dhul-Qarnayn



2. Qur'an 18:84
Indeed We established him upon the earth, and We gave him to everything a way.

Allah says He (Allah), gave Dhul-Qarnayn EVERY power and title upon the earth. And this is very okay for Allah to say.


3. Quran 18:85
So he followed a way

Allah is reporting that Dhul-Qarnayn followed a way (on earth);
There is no problem with this as everyone travels on earth



4. Qur'an 18:86
Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."]


Allah says that the way Dhul-Qarnayn followed led him to a place where
1. He reached the setting of the sun (the place must be very far westward)
2. Dhul-Qarnayn found the sun setting in a Spring of dark mud.
3. He also found a people at this place of dark mud where the sun sets.
4. Allah then speaks to Dhul-Qarnayn to either convert then to doing good or punish them.

why did u mark the "as if " statement as rubbish?

TenQ:
Here is the Arabic of ayah 86, show me where the phrase "AS IF" is written. Google Translate is your friend.]

u are looking at it already
''وجدها''
He (dhul qurnain) see it as if,Allah never said sun settle in muddy water.

So u mean Allah will tell us where sun is settling by using dhul qurnain story?
That is pathetic.

TenQ:
1. Is there a place on earth that is the setting of the sun?]

did the Ayah said sun setting in that place?


.

TenQ:
2. Is there a place on earth with dark muddy waters where the sun appears to set?]

did Allah said sun set in muddy water?

TenQ:
3. Did Dhul-Qarnayn also APPEARS to see a people near this murky waters?]

what that means?

TenQ:
4. If this wasn't real, did Allah tell a lie by saying that he instructed Dhul-Qarnayn To either convert the people to goodness or punish them?

what is that has to with the Post?

TenQ:
If you can truthfully and honestly answer these questions:
Doesn't these show that Allah has never seen the both the earth and sun from space before?

I don't understand this your grammar

TenQ:
Here is a hadith that confirms this

[Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421]

Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing."

hehehehe Hadith from Abu dhar concerning sun from prophet Muhammed


It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) one day said:

Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything ( unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said. Do you know when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith

Sahih Muslim 159 a



Both the Hadith never said the sun settle in the muddy water

DoggoneDogg:
That picture signifies the end of WWII.
2nd May 1945 - the day the Soviet flag was hoisted victoriously above the German Reichstag.

It shows proof that the Russians won WWII and not Allies as your western media always potrays.
No US or UK soldier set foot in the Reichstag that day.

bro,my Western media?

TenQ:
The topic did not change, I'm only questioning the source of the Qur'an.

a'ight,ok

TenQ:
Allah told us what Dhul Qurnain saw, didn't he?
Even the Hadiths confirm that the sun set into the waters.

hehehehe I know one Hadith like that but it ain't reliable

TenQ:
If you insist on your views, we can look at the text together and see that it was the belief of Allah! Allah's apostle testified where the sun went at sunset, didn't he?

ok let me use the same method for u.

TenQ is traveling on the highway during the hot sun and TenQ see as if water is on the highway from afar.


Does that means water is on the water,for the fact that it looks like that?

TenQ:
You see, there are things that only Allah and his apostle know.

what u talking about?

What a fvck?

Why are laying Americans extraditing their former leaders to US?

That is fvcked up,they will sentence them in their country

DoggoneDogg:

Even Jack Dorsey doesn't control 20% of Twitter

Btw, if the clown admits to 20% then its definitely around 40-50%


Nairaland GOTV & CNN war analysts are in shock

bro what is the meaning of this picture u always Post?

TenQ:
Muslims seem to forget that just ONE single error is enough to completely destroy Islam.

and y'all find the error and u didn't see it

TenQ:
Allah should know about the Solar System if indeed he is the Creator. Unfortunately, because Allah is a psudo-Mohamed, he couldn't have known that the Sun does not set within the Murky waters!

topic has been changed and I know where u are going

TenQ:
To clear any ambiguity
Qur'an 18:83
وَيَسۡـئَلُوۡنَكَ عَنۡ ذِى الۡقَرۡنَيۡنِ​ ؕ قُلۡ سَاَ تۡلُوۡا عَلَيۡكُمۡ مِّنۡهُ ذِكۡرًا ؕ‏

Allah is the one reporting a magnificent report in the Qur'an

Qur'an 18:86
حَتَّىٰٓ إِذَا بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ ٱلشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِى عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍۢ وَوَجَدَ عِندَهَا قَوْمًۭا ۗ قُلْنَا يَذَا ٱلْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّآ أَن تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّآ أَن تَتَّخِذَ فِيهِمْ حُسْنًۭا ‎

This one verse ALONE disproves the source of the Qur'an.
Too bad!

hehehe the verse never sun set in the muddy water bro .

Allah was telling us about the story of a man called dhul qurnain when he travelled to far west but when he reached there he saw the sun if it set in the muddy water,dhul qurnain saw it like that,Allah never said sun set in muddy water.

Something like that also used to happen to us when we are traveling on highway during the sun,we always see as if water is on the highway but when we reached nearer, there won't be something like that.

TenQ:
Okay!
No problem apology accepted!

thanks bro!

Ojuntana:
No numbers does not fit Chibok girls kidnap. You have to try better cause no boys were killed and no old women were killed. Check judges. That's the hint I can give you.

u are even justify the sh.it,so is it until Boko Haram killed boys before u know they are actually following the Bible?

Ojuntana:
Since you already now believe in the Bible, why don't you read Galatians 4 to see your religion being described as that of the slave.

yeah I'm slave of God,and many Christians that say that are God children are swimming in poverty.

We both take public bus
We both eat the the same the food
And we both suffering under buhari regime

So what makes yall different?

The fact that Bible call u slave too


Romans 6:22

But now u have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.

Ojuntana:
Also, read Phillipians 2 to see that at the name of Jesus, every knee including that of Muhammad and his followers must bow. I hope you and your brothers will follow that judiciously too.

use that energy to save chibok girls tomorrow

Ojuntana:
Holy spirit blasphemy can't be forgiven but he never asked to kill anybody for that.

but Bible Said he whole blasphemy in the name of the Lord should be killed

Ojuntana:
If the Bible is not peaceful and you Muslims know, why then do you follow its injunctions. Are you no longer the religion of peace or just looking for books to justify your violence?

if the Bible is peaceful,how come it ordered the killing if kids in war?

What is their sins?

Ojuntana:
Show me where ESN quoted the Bible or any of those you mentioned like you and your kind have been doing to justify the murder of the innocent.

they don't need to quote Bible just like crusaders didn't quote Bible when they were killing Jews and Muslims of Jerusalem.

Ojuntana:
Shekau and Bin Laden quoted the Quran repeatedly to justify their mass murder.

and show me where both quote Quran to justify their madness.

Ojuntana:
You and your kind have quoted the Bible to justify same.

i thought u said Bible is peaceful?

Ojuntana:
Now I ask, who is a true Muslim between you and the two?

what is know is both are criminal to humanity and they have been killed.


Plus US trained laden,so no comment again.

Ojuntana:
No one is shifting any post. What I'm showing is how barbaric your religion is.

yours that ain't barbaric,is not human sacrifice u want to use to wash your sins?

Ojuntana:
For traditional worshippers who used to engage in human sacrifice to maintain the peace in the face of such provocation shows their religion, crude as it may seem is far better than the terrorism you call religion.

yours that your own ain't terrorism,then how about Christian group like crusaders,Lord resistance army,army of God,klu klux klan and so on existed?

TenQ:
Muslims are the greatest liars in the universe.
I was initially confuse about the quotations you attributed to TenQ only to discover that they all have been fabricated. Must you win an argument even if it's on the platter of lies?

Where these quotes attributed to TenQ or another person?
The main questions I asked you ignored just so that it may seem that you have responded to my posts. I am truly ashamed for you

I'm just seeing this,I actually made mistake by mistakenly pasting your quote that I've saved to the guy comments


I'm sorry,but it was mistake

Thanks

TenQ:
You are manufacturing quotes again for me 'cause I never said this to you.

u said,even our Islamic scholars are not deny it,then who is the Islamic scholars that say two verses is missing in hafs?

TenQ:
Google is your friend. Let me use it to deflate your falsehood or otherwise.

1. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:251
وَلَوْلا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ = And had it not been for God's defense,
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ = And if it wasn't for God's defense

when u are using Google translate


Well when u translate it,u will see u translate both دفع and دفاع to defense,same meaning.

It is that ولولا u use different synonymous translation.

And if it wasn't/and had it not been

So what is the difference?

TenQ:
Close meaning: different Words: Which exact one was spoken by Allah

that one ain't your concern since we know know what Allah me there.

Is it not defense both mean?

TenQ:
2. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:119
وَلا تُسْأَلُ = and don't ask
ولا تَسْئَلْ = and don't ask

You were correct here. Different pronunciation but same words

just like the first one,but the translation is not don't ask, that's why Google translate won't help u.

It is won't be be asked or won't be account

TenQ:
3. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:58
نَّغْفِرْ = Forgive
يُغْفَرْ = be forgiven

Two different words leading to two different meanings!

I told u to show me where u will the second word,u didn't cos i search it and I never see it.

TenQ:
4. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2: 85
تَعْمَلُونَ = you do
يَعْمَلُونَ =Working

this one too I told u to show me where u saw it but this one is the same meaning.

It refers to verb of multiple people that are not present to something.

So your translation for both is wack, sometimes the first word can be used to represent to multiple people u are talking to like if I say "إني أعلم ما تعملون " meaning " verily I know what u are doing.
Or u can use it for those who are not present, that is for first word but the second word can only be used for people are not present only.

TenQ:
Two different words leading to two different meanings.

with your wack Google translate, right

U want to be anti-islam preacher, at least try learning Arabic

TenQ:
What exactly did Jubril dictate to Mohammed?

is there different meaning between

Boys and Boyz?

connection connexion? And so on

It ain't our concern to know that but we know the message that has been passed.

TenQ:
Christians don't lie about the bible. The bible is writing by human beings not God in their own unique styles and grammar by the inspiration and not dictation of God.

so that is the book u expect to take us to heaven?

I see that is the reason for all the confusion concerning Jesus death and Judas death and man more.

So what this verse means then?


[b]All Scripture is God-breathed [/b]and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17

TenQ:
Islam has claimed the opposite in ignorance that is haunting Muslims now. The Qur'an is the VERBATIM words of Allah which is perfectly preserved word for words, dot for dot.

which is one dot for dot?

U are just looking for mistake that ain't exist

TenQ:
If lies go on for 20 years in one single day, the truth will catch up with it.

yeah just like how different version were confused about Saul age


One version of said he was ? Years old

Ojuntana:
I'm sure kidnapping Chibok girls is also in the Bible. Just check the book of judges you'll find it there.

u damn right it is there


Now kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Numbers 31:17-18

TenQ:
I wonder why Muslims will commit crime in the name of their god and his prophet and then claim they got inspiration for the crime from the Bible. So Muslims now follow the Bible?

it is so pathetic cos Islam never ordered of want they are doing.

TenQ:
Why didn't they see the part that says all blasphemy will be forgiven? Or is Muhammad now the Holy spirit?

why can't holy spirit blasphemy be forgiven too?


Nigga u think u slick? Nah,u ain't.

TenQ:
You guys should just stick to the terrorist manual aka Quran and stop plagiarizing the Bible like your prophet did.

Is like your dumb ass living in delusional,so the book that allowed this is peaceful book?



Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’”

1 Samuel 15:3


Why infants of all people?

TenQ:
.
Why ask God to rescue girls kidnapped by your fellow Islamists? Why don't you just tell your fellow Muslims that what they're doing is unislamic?

We are telling them,but pls use the same energy to tell ESN Pentecost terrorists,Lord resistance army,army of God,klu klux klam and so on the same.

TenQ:
You guys just keep defending the terrorist acts of your brothers by blaming their victims. That's passive terrorism

pathetic is u shift from the post of your Christian sister that burnt shrine to this.

TenQ:
Extremely weak argument.
Even your Islamic scholars are not denying it

show me the Islamic scholars that Said two ayah is missing from hafs version but it is in warsh.

TenQ:
Conscience will not allow you to read it and confirm. A Muslim is one who says:
Don't confuse me with the truth, I have made up my mind!

like the fake Koran that doesn't u out in the post?

TenQ:
All these ERRORS are just from Surah2!

Instead of u to accept u made mistake by saying surah 2 v 9 ,still u are acting arrogant.

TenQ:
1. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:251
وَلَوْلا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ

first is dafhu and second is darahu

Same meaning, different pronouncation!

Both means support,so what are insinuating?

TenQ:
2. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:119
وَلا تُسْأَلُ
ولا تَسْئَلْ

Mr man,the second one is wrong, check it well,it say (تسٰئل)the small little dot like one is not in your own.

So the first Mean was la tasalu and the second means wa la tasa'alu.

Some meaning, different pronouncation.

U won't be asked or u won't be called account

TenQ:
3. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:58
نَّغْفِرْ
يُغْفَرْ

bro how can I confirm the authenticity of this?

Where did u get it?

TenQ:
4. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2: 85
تَعْمَلُونَ
يَعْمَلُونَ

where did u see this too but we'll
The first is tamaluna and second is yamaluna which is the same meaning.

What they are doing.

TenQ:
Google is your friend my dear. You can use Google translate to bust your lies of Difference of INTONATIONS .

nigga I don't need Google translate for what I learned for 6 years.

TenQ:
Should difference in INTONATIONS change meanings?

and which meaning did it change?

TenQ:
This is just between Hafs Qur'an and Warsh Qur'an.

Stop the lies!
Your intonation lies does not sell

That is your own cup of tea,your Google search won't help u.

TenQ:
You CLAIM that the Qur'an is the Verbatim words of Allah! (A big Lie)
Christians did not claim so with the bible.

You claim the Qur'an has not one error(how can the book of Allah have errors), now we show you Mathematical, Historical and Scientific errors

You claim their is only one Qur'an: now we show you at least 30 different Arabic Qur'an.

Allah if he is God Almighty should not commit errors: we found out that Muslims Allah is as ignorant as the 16th century Arabs.

This gives me the right to challenge the Qur'an!

U are a fuckin liar,y'all always telling us Bible is from God and Quran is satanic.


All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17


I ask u the age of Saul,u were trembling and that is the book u believe that will take u to heaven.

What a joke

Ojuntana:
Yahweh can save her if He wished to. But he chose not to. She's in Paradise with Yahweh.

which paradise?

Be deceving yourself,well since he can't save.

Why hasn't he save the remaining chibok girls?

Ojuntana:
A better place than the hell on earth called Nigeria and the deepest part of it called Sokoto.

So u saw her in your dream?

Ojuntana:
The joke is on the savages who claim to serve "the most perfect man" but who are of worse behavior than even traditional worshippers. They are the terrorists of the earth!

the fact that those people that did it never represent Islam.

Killing for blasphemy is Bible stuff not Quranic stuff.


And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.

Luke 12:10





13 Then the Lord said to Moses:
14 “Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him.
15 Say to the Israelites: ‘Anyone who curses their God will be held responsible;
16 [b]anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord is to be put to death.[/b]The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.

Leviticus 24:13-16

Ojuntana:
It is interesting to note that the lady was not harmed by the traditional worshippers in anyway when she took it upon herself to burn down their shrine.
Instead, they left her alone to their gods to fight for themselves which they did according to the story
This is what one would have expected from Muhammad and his Allah when Deborah was said to blaspheme him. Alas, both where powerless and had to employ their deranged urchins to carry out their dirty works.
Seems traditional worshippers are more civilized and enlightened than the terrorist headslammers afterall

instead of u to be concerned about your sister n Christ that Yahweh cannot save,u immediately jumped to Islamic stuff that doesn't related

advocatejare:
How many things did Muhammad say that you have tested to be true? List them!


This Hadith mentioned the specific dates, the one I shred earlier didn’t!


Prove your prophet right by buying madinah date, eat it and drink poison and let’s see if you won’t die



His death was prophesied long before he was even born and the death was for a purpose!
As for Muhammad, he died a purposeless death like a common rat and his death confirmed that he was liar and a false prophet because he failed the simple test Allah gave him in the Quran that if Muhammad was falsifying things he will have his aorta cut and that was what happened to Muhammad

It was confirmed that Muhammad fabricated some of the things he attributed to Allah in the Quran as Allah had Muhammad's aorta cut as he threatened :
Muhammed had his aorta cut to prove his fabrications

"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings," (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
"We would have seized him by the right hand;" (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Like the Quran said, Mohammed had his aorta cut,
"Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
-Bukhari 5:59:713


"...He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta."
- Sunan Abu Dawood 39:4495-4498



And he attributed his agonies and death to the poison he ate from atenuje



Immediately was not in the purpose, the purpose was to get rid of him and he was gotten rid of. He remained sick after and was useless to himself and to his family.

Fever was making him mad, he was dragging his feet on the floor even when 2 men were supporting him, he was fainting and waking up and was useless to everyone. They eventually left him to die and he died miserably like a poisoned rat and his death served no purpose.

He was left unburied for 3 days because his followers were fighting for who will succeed him.

Do u know u are a cunning ass m-therfvcker?


And na God go punish u!

U are dishing out questions but u did as if I never ask u any question.


Quote me no more

Oga pls, the verse u are posting below, where did u see it and where did u see the name of the chapter cos those chapters ain't In the Quran

TenQ:
I asked about Qurans having Surah 115 and Surah 116. I even posted the 2 surahs.
And what you are saying is that the difference is the pronunciation!?

You are lying again!

and I told u bring and out version of the two s d snap it with your phone camera to confirm.

TenQ:
Let me help you with 51 differences between the Warsh and the Hafs Qur'an. I hope you will read them and be convinced beyond reasonable doubt.

http://muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=64

51 differences in MEANINGS!?



Check my original post, I attached Surah 115 and Surah 116. If you are confused after this, Google is your friend.

anybody can put edited stuff on Google,that is why I told you to look for the Quran in real life.

TenQ:
You forget that the Qur'an was dictated and not translated yet you call it different narration.

I mean different narration by spelling.

TenQ:
What happened to the WORD for WORD, DOT for DOT narratives by you Muslims?

what that mean?

advocatejare:
Let me show you just two differences from one single chapter of the Warsh and Hafs Quran

ok

TenQ:
Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Surah 2:19
وَلا تُسْأَلُ
ولا تَسْئَلْ

oga that text is not in surah 2:19,so where did u see what u are writing?

TenQ:
Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Surah 2:251
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
Google is your Friend

u wrote the same text,so?

TenQ:
You have NOT answered my question!

and what is the difference?


Or did u see where 6 is called 2 in another version?

TenQ:
No one know the exact age of Saul when he became king because from the oldest manuscript, omitted letter(s) prevent latter scribes from knowing whether Saul was 32, 42 or 52 years.

I repeat, no one knows the exact Age of Saul when he became king. However, we know he had a Son Jonathan who was about David's age. David was a teenager at that time (and not old enough to join the army)

and you got the nerve to talk about Koram while u haven't solve Bible misery!

So that means those version that wrote different things are rubbish and shouldn't be relied on

advocatejare:
Oh, so it’s no longer a fake hadith?

did I called it fake Hadith?

I said if it is tested and it didn't work,that means the prophet never said it.

advocatejare:
Where is the proof from the hadith that it was the specific date Muhammad planted that he was referring to?

cos their is one Hadith that talked about it


The following narration supports that view:

When Sa’d Ibn Abi Waqqas became ill, the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) went to visit him. Sa’d said,

“He put his blessed hands between my nipples and I felt its coolness at my heart. Then, he said,

'You are suffering from heart sickness. Go to al-Harith Ibn Kaladah, brother of Thaqif, for treatment. He is a man who gives medical treatment. He should take seven ajwa dates of Madinah, grind them with their kernels, add milk and oil, and then you should eat them.'" (Abu Dawud, Tibb 12)

Sa’d took his advice and got over that illness

advocatejare:
And how come muhammad ended up dying from a poised meat like a mere rat?

u forgot your own so called god was hanged like a theif?

advocatejare:
You’re just a liar like Allah

u that sound like Yahweh stuff,the father of deceit,lies and rumor.


1kings 22:23
“So you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all your prophets. For the LORD has pronounced your doom.”

advocatejare:
So the hadith is no longer to Muslims but only to the people or madinah?

are Medina people not Muslims again?


Plus the prophet is talking about medicine here not miracle.

advocatejare:
How come poison worked on Muhammad and he died from the poison?

Someone died three after poison, what so u still want?

advocatejare:
Muhammad was not the only one who ate the poisoned meat and didn’t die immediately, some his companions that ate it didn’t die immediately too. So nothing is special about Muhammad not dying immediately from the poison!

what is the purpose of the poison?

Is it not to die immediately?

advocatejare:
Muhammad kept shouting that the poisoned meat he ate was what was killing him!

He claimed that his sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate and that his aorta was cut

wait first of all,he is human and supposed to feel pain,he died after he fulfilled what he supposed to fulfilled,and died exactly after four year he ate the poison.


Why u so worried about his peaceful death?

John the Baptist was beheaded,no shouting


Jeremiah was stoned to death,no shouting


Micah was killed,no shouting


Amos was wounded and later died,no shouting.


So why y'all worry about the death of prophet Muhammed that took place after four year of poisoning?

advocatejare:
Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

ok we have heard, stop dodging my questions.


The verse I posted earlier make use of it and tell Boko Haram to release the remaining chibok girls tomorrow.

TenQ:
The questions is not about winning. The questions is for you to respond to each one.

if it is answer u wamt, then I will answer u now and if u refuse to answer why I've been asking u after I told u u won,then woe to hypocrites.

TenQ:
1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

it is not false,the different between those version are the way they are being pronounced and wrote or something the subtitle of synonym words.

For example
مالك and ملك
عند and عمود

And so on.

TenQ:
2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

Kindly show the us the Quran of kab and Usman u talking about,I meant the manuscript.

TenQ:
3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

hafs,warsh are all words of Allah with just different narration and recitation.

Now I've answer, answer my own now



How old was Saul when he became king?



1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years [/b]old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


[b]American Standard Version
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was [b]--- years old [/b]when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there!



New Heart English Bible
Saul was ? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

itaewon:
Stupid man

how is he stupid?

advocatejare:
In short, you can’t follow the words of your false prophet Muhammad who said Ajwa dates

first of all,the dates the prophet mentioned there according to scholar was a particular ajwah dates in Medina that was planted by the prophet himself and the hadith was addressed to a specific audience, such as the people of Madinah and those in the vicinity.
And second the Hadith was talking about tasting it like miracle which u Christians do,if u eat the particular ajwa dates and were poisoned unknowingly then it wouldn't work.

advocatejare:
will prevent dying from poison but the same Muhammad ended up being killed with poisoned meat like a common rat

did that prophet die immediately after eating the meat poisoning?


Now stop dodging my own question


And I will do whatever you ask in My name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son,If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

John 14:13-14



If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

John 15:7



Use this verse to command Boko Haram to release all chibok girls tomorrow

TenQ:
I asked you to answer 3 questions NOT to agree with the questions

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

u won,ok?


Now what was the age of Saul when he became king?