(1) I got employed with relatively good pay. Saved up to 3m. So one man close to my house whom I have done biz with before told me about dredging biz. Me and him and two other guys teamed up together to do the biz bcuz it is capital intensive. We contributed 3m each or so I thought. We have already secured a massive water front where we will get the sharp sand. Construction Companies were already promising us patronage wen we finally start. Being that i'm working, most of the running around was done by two guys ( my friend and one other guy).
This my friend-older than all of us is the front guy in the biz. He is from Rivers man and knows quite alot of people.So he was the one that got us the contact for the water front. We entered agreement with the owner of the water front. infact we had to even pay him 400k to ward off one Italian company that wanted to take the biz from us. Time to look for dredger and this other guy went and brought his relative rickety dredger. When the owner of the water front saw the dredger we brought he said we are not serious. And that was how he cancelled the contract and gave it to intalian company. Nowtime for me to collect my money and this my friend started giving me stories. I never knew the money he was using to buy me bolle and fish na my money. Bcuz we have not signed the contract before sending d money, my money went fiam till date partly bcuz I was not alwys with them running around for the biz.

(2) One guy i met during nysc and have remained friends with since then brought one biz about helping hands.One of the organizers of the scheme had told him we can make 9m if we invest 4m. 1m again down the drain.

Wont even talk of small ones like 600k for trucking which I only made 200k.

All in all, the experience here is that one needs indept knowledge of whatever u want to get iivolved with. And dont ivest in biz u wont have time to manage.

Chai this one pain gan. 448k ...I thought they said Sunday Oliseh is pep Guadiola.

Well I won 70k yesday too. So no qualms.

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You see why this is more confusing. Why cant women just have one trait and save us the stress. This one cums. The other doesnt even know what cums is. The other one sees squirt as urine. The guy saying guys have different feelings or behaviour wen cuming , well that's not entirely true.

First of all every guy cums. Why cant every woman cum eh? and save us the stress of knowing if we are digging it right.

I have dated like 2 chicks before this one . None squrited. But this my queen gushes like kilode. She always say wait wait I want to pee yet ai cant notice that vibrations, those twiching. Maybe I shud just be digging the shii. Cant be lost trying to figure if she has cum yet squirts.

MrBrownJay1:
squirting IS the orgasm (some squirt when they cuum, others dont).... and let her know that a woman can NEVER feel what we men feel when we orgasm, simply because we are two different species. she is a woman and we are men, different sexual organ altogether!

I really feel pity for her cus she sees the veins on my head pop out when i'm cuming and shez like what and how exactly do u feel. I'm her first, so I understand she's inexperienced. I do the pre-intimacy thing, sometimes she squirt out of it alone. I eat her out real good but I cant seem to get or see that feeling some chicks feel when they are cuming too.Yea I have watched lots of porn vids to study how women react to orgasm.Mine woman doesnt. Sometimes I ask her if she has cum she says dont worry , like shez waiting to experience how I experience mine but cant.

I always have this this guilt like am not satisfying her whereas she does satisfy me.

Ok here is the things guys. I have an amazing woman.Our sex life is bam. But then ..... here is the issue'

She squirts' as in real gushing of fluid whenever we make love but she keeps saying she wishes she experiences what I experience whenever I'm cuming. Now that is a whole bunch of confusion. Because I thought getting a girl to squirt is the climax of sex for women. Or is squirting defferent from orgasm. I dont get it. I always look at her confused whenever she says that.


So ladies,Doctors , Don juans in the house what is it really. Is squirt different from orgasm. If not whatz the way forward.

site is back and opening fast. I PH of 300k ad got 527k. D site na helele though they dont match u easily.takes like 3-6 days after gh. hop in papi

can use oshtronic@yahoo.com and our wasap forum.

15 million people on givers forum. Chai bloggers.

Meanwhile givers forum is intact.It is still working because of controlled get help they use. The sudden freezing of mmm made lots of people to subscribe to givers, so they are doing upgrade to accommodate that.

Nuells:
How can one register in GHW and after providing help, must u bring in ppl b/4 u get paid in the system?....throw some light....

u can join with oshtronic at yahoo dot come.

Since I joined both mmm and ghw, I see why ghw is still waxing while mmm is in such panic mode.

Get help worldwide has nothing like guider. U brake a rule you are out. In my humble opinion nothing caused this wahala mmm is in right now than huge amount of money guiders take out from it ,making d system not be liquid. Yet they guide nada.Their lines always switched off yet draining the system.

Another thing is uncontrolled GH. Now that panic is already with us,mmm is now doing damage control telling people we did not understand the message: that u can still withdraw if your mavro is upto 30 days.like WTF. why isnt that part of the initial message. Ghw instituted this control gh right from d start.

I expect mmm admins to put bar guiders from geting help ,they have benefited alot from the system.Then put in place strong cro to block multiple account.surelly it will bounce back.

I dey chill for get help worldwide for now lolz.

givers forum and get help worldwide de dia.hop in with oshtronic@yahoo.co

hehehehehe. In Trumps voice we are going to have massive PHing bigly.
Mavrodi nna m, no mind that man,he has ear problem.pop into givers forum or get help worldwide guys.oshtronic@yahoo.com

adeniyisavage:
I totally agree with the above comments
I've often wondered the essence of a guider in MMM. The guiders I know are to be above board, consoderate and friendly.. most of the guiders on MMM are rude, egotistical buffoons who feel they're doing you a big favour by even picking your call
The post of guider should be completely scrapped. They offer little or no value to the system,rather they act like leeches and parasites sucking the resources of others while practically doing nothing.
I also agree with MMM getting weaker.. People aren't providing help as much as before despite the obvious increase in participants. It used to take on average 13-15 days to get matched, now less than a week. I've personally experienced this.
For MMM to succeed.. in my opinion.. Guiders should be scrapped.. And a heavier crackdown on fake POP uploaders.

Well I dont know u but it seems u have a good round structure hanging on ur shoulder.Guiders these days are very annoying.maybe bcuz they have eaten enough.Imagin i wasap my guider-ofcourse he doesnt pick calls, i wasap him for a problem I have.dude never said a word. I had to run to one new guider that atleats responded.maybe bcus she too is new in guider ,so she has my time. Daz why I diversy- some cashew in mmm,some in givers forum and some in get help worldwide. oshtronic@yahoo.com if want to join both.

Ndi uchu. Ekpenta gbagbukwagi there. EP

I was also blocked sometime ago.Truth is the system cannot just block u like that. U must have done something: iether u tried changing ur account number -yes some people will just go to their page fiddle with some things there maybe not neccessarily change something and then save it.Bros system will just feel a hacker is trying to access ur account.

But if in Jehova name we worship u did nothing, fear North u will be unblocked, little snag here is that it take a little while before support responds but all in all u will be ublocked.Ok so fear North.
On a side note, ur about to catch HBP bcus of the "huge" cashew in there.why nt diversify like me.Put some with mmm,some with givers forum and others in get help worlwide.in that case if one fvcks up others will come to the rescue.come in using oshtronic@yahoo.com for both.

Chai some people will get HBP for this mmm.Since yu guys have been peddling rumors upon rumors some of us keep balling with mmm money.Me wey don arrange new ride with mmm and ur there yarning dust.Let it crash on my head.

Well I have other platform even if it does crash.Givers forum dey dia, get help worldwide crediting my account like kilode. oshtronic@yahoo.com to enter both and try it out.

I have notices that unserious people or should I say enemy of MMM have registered multiple accounts and be uploading fake pop.Well it will only delay the payment but ur payment must enter insha allah.

My strategy this days is divestment.Put some cash in mmm,some in givers forum and others in get help worldwide and these guys havent disappointed. oshtronic@yahoo.com to register all

watched ait today money show by Nancy and on sound economist.Nancy said her friend called her n told her if not for mmm, youths and hungry nigerians would have chased buhari out of aso rock.I laugh tire.some people dont have d slightest idea how this mmm has saved souls.me wey de owe huge amount by this yime last year bought a cool ride i will be taking home for d xmas.money for biz next year already down.

God punish whoever is tryjng yo cause panic. well i have givers forum,and get help worldwide bbringing in cool cashew for me lolz. make dem go sidon.
kiriasunny@gmail.com to join both.

ok I see that virtually all the mlm and other network marketing schemes are running promo.from helpping hands international to mmm to get help worlwide to givers forum.

Givers forum gives 3% daily, and 20% weekly.Did 300k each in my two acounts and guess what 453k on it. Damn. Seems this xmas sure pass.

u can join using oshtronic@yahoo.com

soft work o jare. get help internatio al i take over. is our work o.soft work.

Haba guys it doesnt meant bcus he brought it here means has bad intentions.mmm has really helped alot of guys like me though with the current foray into mmmI have shifted a little of my resources to get help international.
oshtronic@yahoo.com if u wana hop in.

Is that her impediment and does she recognize her behaviour is abnormal and tries to change ? If yes then u have some patience. If no whip her inline. Else both of u can't stay together.

In Ray J's voice, I hit it first. Soo anoda guy combing her is out of d equation. I hv a strong feeling the talk was all about being lonely. Maybe by d time we spend time often like we intend to do during ma leave then story will change.

Dahyormine:
Hi bro, i used to be in ur shoes, i am way above my bae in all areas(education, age, exposure, appearance etc.) I brought maself down to her level to make tins work btw us, i keep quiet to every rongs she does, nt to freek her out, bt she didnt appreciate dat, she told me somfin similar to wat ur bae said to u, bt i knew wat i was doing, gradually i changed from dat patient guy to a fairly harsh guy, now she gives me mo respect by d day............my advice, u need to change, do as if u didnt hear wat she said to U, dnt show dat u found it painful, u need to change bt dnt make it too sudden, let d changes be gradual, dnt always seek her consent befor taking decision(u may tell her later) deny her of somtin, if she tells u somfin, go against it dat moment(bt u can later do wat she said). Dnt be too predictable, once a man is completely predictable fo a woman, believe me, d man is doomed already! Be firm and stand on ur feet, dats hw to handle a woman bro....................... My opinion tho, guess dat works...........cheers!!!

Good to hear from someone with similar experience.

andromida:


I don't think she wants you to be what she wants you to be she likely prefers you to be who you are and who you are has no need for games.

There really is no point in pretending you don't care when you do and I am sure she appreciates your care and love so don't go and mess that up she likes to be treated well but maybe you also act like you are afraid of losing her this makes you look insecure.

She did good telling you this and you are lucky to have a woman who wants you to be a better man some women won't tell you this but will take advantage of your insecurities and use you for whatever or say nothing until the relationship dies or they will be afraid to lose you if you become better but she trusts you enough to tell you this so I think you should work on improving your confidence.

I think she did you a huge favor by telling you this if this relationship works out or not you will have increased confidence either way a win win for you.

Thanks. Daz a good one.

andromida:
You are lucky she could even put into words what she finds lacking in the relationship. Many times women just stop feeling a certain way around a man or start feeling a certain way then leave.

Maybe you come across to her as indecisive and a yes man without personal control, someone who will go along to get along.

Thanks papi. Am an extreme kind of guy and daz my fear cuz if I want to be what she wants me to be she will be crying everyday. Yea am very gud at that game but I never brought it up cuz I felt this relationship is real. I feel there is no point pretending I don't give a fvck when in actual fact I do. What I feel is maybe bcuz we don't see often. I work in a state far frm hers. Soo we see like once in 3 months and z always brief as I hv to go back to ma state 4 work. Meeeen am at a loss as to why she sees me dat way man.

Women really are very difficult to understand.

mekaboy:
Lets assume your story is true then.

#1 you are a jew man

#2 you are not observant

#3 there is no sex involved in the relationship

#4 your not financially capable.

#5 your not outspoken

#6 your boring

#7 she is with you out of sympathy

#8 she feels she deserves better and does not want to end up with your type.

#9 for u to come up to nairaland for solution, you are boring and dont have friends.

the guy in red fonts might be right after all. your dumb Niggu.

U need a lobotomy to think straight. Whaz d fuss about man.

runnazz:
Lolzz slow down guy it's not like she's dumping u.. I think she is nice enough to point u in the right direction not all ladies can do that. Some girls don't need u to be overly sensitive like that's some gay ish no offence while some want u all sensitive and sh1t like that.. I think she needs a man's man, can u be that man cos if u can't she will have to find someone who can and come up with that fckd up its not u it's me line to break up what u got.. No matter what u do if u aren't compatible just admit to urself and save u heart a lot of trouble LET HER GO

Seriously some women's brain is pretty messed up. I remember wen I felt I was showing her too much love, I back tracked a little .stoped sending text messages as I used to. Guess what, she complained how I hv changed. How I don't send her those texts that brightens her day. At a point sef she accused me of not always ending our calls with " I love you" like I used to.

How do u reconcile all that with dis her lastest yarn. Geeezz

Masterclass32:
Nothing more to it. Just BE tHE MAN you're supposed to be. The FASTEST way to loose a woman is by being ridiculosly nice. Everything she does is 'okay'. If she shit for your room, you go ask am say whether she drink perfume because the shit smells so good. Some people call this kind of man - a jerk.

Women want their men to be men. Not an over-emotional boy. Just as men want a woman in a woman, no a manly woman. We are made to compliment each other. If one leaves their role, the boat won't sail well. Women want to be proud of their men and the things that epitomizes a real man - at least in the eyes of a woman in most cases are leadership, ability to make decisions, protection, provision, love. I've seen crude men that beat their women, yet the women keep coming back, ready to fight other women off to keep the man. I've also seen men that their 'niceness' is the stuff of legends, love their women with the speed of light.



Beating a woman is not good, barbaric in fact. Its never adviced. There are other ways to handle issues.

A woman wants her man to be her prince, her knight in shining amour. She wants to be able to respect you. But this won't come if the man has a permanent residence in the fantasy world. It frustrates the woman. Sooner or later, she might have to look elsewhere.

A man should be all lovey dovey and at the same time, firm.

Thanks a lot man. Good one.

osile2012:


If after dating a girl for one year and she has to tell u something you dont already know about ur relationship on the phone then u must be dumb.

Hollup bro. This is not some meek mill Drake iss. If u don't have constructive advice to give u can as well let it go. Couples live years b4 finding out some secretes. She has noticed and told me much to my astonishment. Na d way out I dey talk here not judgement.