₦airaland Forum

cicero:
It is common knowledge that very few females report violation, so for the police to go checking through their records for any such entry is at best laughable.

so how do you expect them to start investigation?
the crime was not reported in abia
no one knows for sure it took place anywhere in abia state
and you want a poorly funded police force to expend their resources on a crime they don't know for sure happened in their state?

you should stop displaying your idiocy on a public forum - a lot of people are reading!

Now get this, whether it was ABSU or elswhere, whether it was last week or last month the fact of the matter is that there was a violation that was caught on camera and the criminals made the mistake of doing that, the authorities must get to the bottom of this matter and those animals must be brought to justice. I dare say that the curses I have read heaped on this guys will do just that should the authorities fail.

i doubt anyone has defended the act the boys committed. it was beyond depraved.
but the crux of the matter is was that real or fake? has it been reported or not?
where is the victim? where are the offenders?

without those details? how would a poorly funded abia state police proceed with the investigation that might have happened in lagos state?

I am not sure I know the meaning of 'hoax' and I am reluctant to look it up, but based on what I have gleaned so far hoax could mean fake or not real and I maintain the video is very far from that. You 20,000 hours of crime tv failed.

then go and lend your celestial brain power to the abia state and help catch the offenders.
since you maintain you know for certain the video is real, abia state police command needs you.

dayokanu:
All said and done, Can you losers show us your trophies?

there are plans to move back to highbury!
the move to the emirates has jinxed arsenal and psychics say as long as they remain there, there won't be any trophy!

MissMeiya:
Yes, my dear. That's what it means to backtrack. To go back to what you originally said.

i only pointed to you the video could have been a hoax!

you questioned my stance and i told you years of watching crime shows have told me not to believe everything line, hook and sinker.
i deal with each case individually. i have seen wives murder their husbands but claimed invaders forced their way in and committed the crime, etc.

so if i see a video like that with so many loose ends and inconclusive bullshyte. . . .i just don't join the popular bandwagon!
i apply my common sense.

for all you know, that incident might have happened in another state like 8 yrs ago.
who knows for sure? so how do you then expect abia state commissioner to investigate an unreported crime with no crime scene?

MissMeiya:
Nice. I like the way you backtracked and pretended you're "discussing the possibilities". Even though you just claimed to know beyond a shadow of a doubt, with your crime investigation expertise--no, I'm sorry, your "common sense" that no one has but you and the Abia Commissioner--that the video is fake. But since we're back to "discussing possibilities", you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Still doesn't excuse the police from not investigating.

backtrack?
this was my first reply on this thread:

coogar:
missmeiya, all the points you made did not prove this video isn't a hoax.
if the same scenario played out in a movie, does that make it rap[i]e[/i]? yes, the girl was crying, yes the girl mentioned they should kill her if they don't let her go. it could have still been a hoax!

let's just agree you have a very short attention span!

Poor them. No one wants to help them do their jobs.

csi, ncis etc can help out!!!

cicero:
@cooger
Watching 20,000 hours of some crime tv is not a course load in police academy.
A video was released
A girl was being violated (At least starting from the point she started saying no if I must give you some concession)
She could even be dead by now as someone mooted here.
And you come out on the www to say based on what you have seen on crime tv it is a hoax.

i said everything i saw related to the video coupled with the fact that nothing of such has been reported in any police station in that state suggest it could have been a hoax! i don't know for sure it's a hoax just like you don't know for sure it's real!
what i will not do however is to beat my chest or stick my neck out it's definitely a real crime scene.

I have been around here long enough to know that there are very intelligent people here who don't just swallow everything hook. line and sinker and majority of them have condemned the despicable video.
But you have chosen to think in the opposite direction along with Abia government, and I'm sure you think not joining the popular opinion makes you smart. In this case popular opinion wins.

not joining the idiotic popular opinion definitely makes me smart.
there you go again. . . . . .what makes you so sure the crime scene was in abia state? abia state government has looked into all the police stations in their state and they have concluded the crime has not been reported in their state. so how did you reach the conclusion the video was made in abia state?

you must possess a poor comprehension skill!

No matter what a female has done to any male, it does not warrant violation as clearly seen on that video and it is not a hoax, they deliberately showed the girls face to humiliate her to death.
It may have taken place long ago and elsewhere other than Abia, but it happened none the less and it is horrible.

so you now concede it might have taken place elsewhere other than abia? and with the same mouth, you are blaming abia commissioner when he announced all his police commands never took any report of any rap[i]e[/i] in the state? so abia state should conduct an investigation on an unreported crime they don't know for sure happened in their state?

wow. . . . .your intelligence is at par with einstein, aristotle and socrates!

Your 20,000 hours has obviously failed this time

your 30 something years at trying to be educated has been exposed here as a waste of time!
you can start again at primary 6.

debosky:
Unless you are talking about Cougar reproduction, human females cannot impregnate themselves. Stick to discussing cougar reproduction will ya?

this boy is a tool!

so every time se[i]x[/i]ual intercourse takes place, the female always gets pregnant?
how did you bag your degree with this atupoyoyo brain cells of yours?

MissMeiya:
Coogar, I'm only saying you don't have to insult someone to disagree with them.

well. . . . he started it.
i give back what i get by the same token. fair exchange!

Ok, watching TV makes you an expert? Quick, someone add "Watching Crime and Investigation Channel" to our curriculums.

like i told you earlier, i don't have to be an expert to apply common sense.
the perpetrators in this video knew a camera was on them, why would they use their real names knowing the video might leak?
if it was hidden camera, then it's a different thing entirely!

Once again, you are not qualified to diagnose the situation. Unless you're a professional despoiler and you know how it's supposed to happen? Then by all means, you can educate us all.

by the same token, neither are you qualified to diagnose the situation unless you have been gangraped multiple times in your lifetime.
maybe this is why you are so certain this video is so real!!!
you see? fair exchange!

if you are so thick to think only r[i]a[/i]pists and rap[i]e[/i] victims can discuss the possibilities of this video being real/hoax then you should sue your teachers!

Was that sarcasm? Cuz you can't possible be serious. I don't even know what to say to you if you are.

sarcasm? i have never heard about this word before! is there a word like that in the dictionary?

Right, the police shouldn't even try, because gosh it's too hard.

they should keep trying. . . .
nypd and lapd would offer all the help they need!

cicero:
@cooger
How old are you?

old enough to school you that when you see stuffs like this. . . . .be sure you can prove beyond reasonable doubt before making spastic judgements!

- you don't know if the clip is real
- you don't know for sure it took place in abia state university.
- you don't even know if the names mentioned are real/fake to cause misdirection.
- the victim has not reported the crime
- no forced entry, no bruises, no weapons brandished in the clip
- crime took place in the afternoon

and so on and forth!

now if you are a commissioner of police, how would you solve this crime?

MissMeiya:
Abeg, cool it down. Cicero made several excellent points.

cicero made idiotic points. . . . .some of you nigerians have that uncanny ability of believing whatever nonsense served on your plates.
there's what is called common sense - and it's the ability to question and see the motive behind whatever presented to you. the question is, who knows for sure that video was made in abia state univeristy? no one knows! i won't be surprised someone just tagged the video abia state because he heard people speaking igbo language in the clip.

Unless you are some kind of rap.e expert, you can't pronounce the video a fake.

i have watched crime and investigation channel for more than 20,000 hours to know what is real and what is fake.
i don't have to be any expert in the police department to believe any garbage laid on the plate for me.

It's possible the girl wanted to get away without being seen for fear of being labelled a pros.titute (5 men against her word? If even a video leads people to disbelief, I can understand that fear). And if even it is fake, I agree with Cicero, the police should nonetheless begin investigating so they can assure the public of it. They can't just cover their eyes and pretend nothing's happening.

5 men against her word? hello
prostitut[i]e[/i]s don't operate during the day in nigeria. there's no way she could have been labelled a prostitut[i]e[/i] in broad day light in nigeria.
people who use sluts during the day in nigeria go to their brothels, not the other way round.

if the girl had screamed, she would have been rescued.
there was no forced violence and no weapon was brandished. she had no visible bruises on her and her shirt was not even torn apart!
the boys must have been so convincing to get her to cooperate without screaming or fighting out with them.

Secondly, I disagree with your assertion that the girl would not be condemned if she came out. I think you used the word "hero". I'm sorry, but that's just naive.

i reckon this is the first time a girl would be violated in nigeria. it has never been heard before that a girl can be sexually violated!
who would condemn this girl if she comes out to finger out the boys who did that to her?
would you? would anyone on this forum condemn her? what would be the reasons for the condemnation?

sometimes i think not too many nigerians operate with their brain cells?
if the crime is not reported, how would the police know to solve the crime?
ohhhh wait, i know how they would. . . . .

the nigerian police would use their vast database and state of the art investigative facility to scientifically pin-point the crime scene.
they also have this voice detection system that has recorded the voices of all the citizens of nigerians that would help point out the perpetrators of this crime! furthermore, they have a direct link to blackberry and 50 other social networks who must have logged the ip address of the original poster of the clip on the internet.

bingo! crime solved!!!!

davidylan:
any mother has the responsibility of ensuring only the best and most responsible mate should father her child. If you dont open your legs no one can artificially inseminate you.

a fact that eludes debosky!

cicero:
What point are you trying to make? Do you mean all of them in the video faked it and released it just to tick Nigerians off?

you should go and read the meaning of the word hoax in the dictionary

Or are you saying [b]from your experience [/b]she should have been screaming at the top of her voice all through her ordeal?

yet another idiotic question from an epileptic and ruminating beast of burden
i doubt you are educated!

I sense a subtle influx of people trying to trivialize the video and make it look like a hoax.

that's incorrect!
you sense a subtle influx of people who don't eat and digest whatever is presented to them without using their common sense to see and question the motive behind it. why would any s[i]e[/i]x offender post the video of a rap[i]e[/i] scene on the internet? to prove macho or what?

why hasn't the girl reported? she was supposed to have been rap[i]e[/i]d in the most depraved manner the world has seen.
with the rate at which the news is spreading, the victim must have now heard about it that her arse is on the webspace - why is she still in hiding?

If it is a hoax that is the more reason the police if they still have any honor left, should get to the bottom of the matter, arrest everyone including the girl before they start making real videos with innocent females, and who knows they could be protecting someone you know by getting to the bottom.

you are a big ignoramus!

the ill-equipped nigerian police should then search all the houses in and around absu to get everyone arrested! we are not even sure the incident took place in absu. nowhere in the video was absu mentioned. but let's just go with the flow. that video could have been made in lagos or any other state in nigeria - forget the fact that the perpetrators and the victim spoke in igbo language. there are igbos in lagos too.

my point is. . . . . .it's not feasible for the nigerian police to launch any investigation without the victim coming out to report. the police are ill-equipped. they don't have any database for fingerprints/voiceprints or whatever. they don't even have the crime scene. all they have is a tag that the incident took place in abia state university. who knows for sure it took place in abia?

MissMeiya:
With all due respect, that is complete bull. You've got it backwards. Why not prove the video is FAKE, rather than the other way round?

the video is fake in so many ways. . . .

firstly, that was in the afternoon and if that was a dormitory, her screams would have alerted the neighbours on the landlord of the house.
the victim did not scream once. she was not beaten, her top was completely unruffled, she had no bruises, and no weapon was shown.
she did not cry once except one time someone stepped on her hand or something.

all she cared about was to return to her aunt's shop.
she was more scared of her aunt returning to the shop than what the 5 boys were doing to her.
if that was rap[i]e[/i], britney spears is a virgin.

"What has she got to lose again by reporting?" You've obviously never known someone who was abused, or you wouldn't even ask that. People have already begun condemning her without knowing her identity. Do you really think that will stop once they know for sure? It will just worsen.

it will not worsen.
if she comes out, she's a hero. she can then reveal what happened and have the fools who did it to her arrested.
her video is already out there for life so what has she got to hide again?

everything about that video suggests it's a hoax.

4llerbuntu:

go hug transformer guy. do u deny being a tool? im sure debosky can tell us more about that point.
stop being so stuffy, wat appened to yer sense o humor? u been going to bed with DK? 

4llerbuntu the eternal pessimist. . . . . .

i have nothing to say to you.
you want me to hug a transformer - i will suggest you go hug a boko haram suicide bomber.

if you want the comprehensive list of the tools on the sports section, the list has been out for weeks now.
fortunately for you, you are in the pole position.

i am glad there's no man utd supporter on the list.
it was majorly graced by gooners and few rent boys.

MissMeiya:
Hoax, my @##.

1. A video surfaces of five boys having intimate intercourse with a girl. True or not?
2. The girl attempts multiple times to leave, but is pushed down as the boys continue to Be Intimate with her. True or not?
3. The girl weeps and begs them to kill her. They continue to Be Intimate with her. True or not?
4. R.ape is defined as forced intimate intercourse. Pushing someone down and Being Intimate with them as they try to escape is forced intimate intercourse. TRUE OR NOT?

So regardless of any !@#$ "contract", the girl was NOT willing, therefore it was r.ape, and r.ape in most parts of the civilized world is a crime. And this nonsense about "how do they investigate": Are you saying that the Nigerian police should not bother to investigate a possible crime because it's TOO HARD?? Do you still feel superior to those of us that are disgusted by you? (pinkrex, I'm referring to you.)

Or maybe you're a friend of this Abia Commissioner and you want to help people swallow his filthy lies about this being a hoax.

missmeiya, all the points you made did not prove this video isn't a hoax.
if the same scenario played out in a movie, does that make it rap[i]e[/i]? yes, the girl was crying, yes the girl mentioned they should kill her if they don't let her go. it could have still been a hoax!

the single most important question here is. . . . . .where is the victim? why hasn't she reported to a police officer if the whole thing is true?
her face is already seen by billions of viewers, surely, her problem is no longer the shame or the stigma of being laughed at!
what has she got to lose again by reporting/ if she reports the incident, she can then identify the men responsible for this disgraceful act. anything beyond that, i don't see how the case can be solved.

the abia commissioner is very correct, without the case being reported, there's nothing the police can do about it!

sexkillz:
She was trying to make sense, but sense eluded her! And why on earth are you asking her to stand on allen avenue? Is that how much you loathe her? Did you not know that those standing on allen no longer make as much as they used to? I know a GOOD place she could stand in V.I rather!

she's an aspiring low-class slut, she needs your encouragement to become a hi-class hooker.
let's give her all the support she needs!

i see nothing disgusting or pathetic about the pictures. . . . .

these are people having fun at nights.
some are drunk, some slumped on the floor, some were eating fish n chips, etc.
where in the world are these things forbidden.

if you take your camera to kuramo beach, you would find people eating excreta or al fresco s[i]e[/i]x
don't buy into daily mail's sensationalism.
they are twats!

[quote author=call-me link=topic=766082.msg9199505#msg9199505 date=1316708329]Men, if you go for window shopping for the thing(s) you like, certainly the item(s) will not be released to you to take home with but when you are with your cash and ready to buy, items will be given to you with added advantage - "APPRECIATION"

So now

If you think you are man enough, ready to toast a girl, be ready and be rest assured that you “must” I repeat “must” spend your money on her even if she demands whatsoever. Whether you guys like it or not, their body is not meant for guys who are not ready to "pay", whichever way you want to translate it.

And if you know and you know that you are not ready to spend on any girl, be it a wife material ooo, ajepako ooo, ajebutter ooo, ashewo ooo, fine girl ooo, ugly girl ooo, illiterate one ooo, educated one ooo, rich girl ooo, poor girl ooo, just stick your precious money to your pocket or to the bank and keep saving for what I don’t know.

You have your “money” and they have their “body” – wash me I wash you gbam – simple logic[/quote]your post makes sense. . . .

however, if i were you, i would go stand by an electric pole on allen avenue at exactly 7pm, wearing a mini-skirt and stiletto shoes.

debosky:
They are both equally responsible - sure she bears the brunt of it through pregnancy and childcare, but it is still a joint decision to Reproduce.

you are so thick!
the sleeping together then was meant to be fun and pleasure. she didn't mean to get herself impregnated!
it's the woman's duties to see to the effects of the foreign bodies deposited in her and it was also her approval that led to the action in the first place.

slimshay:
Debo, I don't believe Hart is obviously better than Chesny.

one conceded 8 goals in a single match, remember?

Carlosein:
^^absolute hogwash! see the link for clarifications.

by the way, the image does say 23 weeks and that's less than 5months.

if 4 weeks make a month.
23 weeks less than 5 months?

you got jokes, mate!

debosky:
^^

While the woman is equally at fault for the conception of the child (except in r[i]a[/i]pe), the father equally has a responsibility for raising that child. If the father does not carry responsibility, he deserves to be berated, regardless of marital status with the child's mother.

Even if the father did not agree with the woman's decision to keep the child, he cannot relinquish his parental responsibilities for the child. The fact remains that if he didn't sleep with her in the first place the child wouldn't have been conceived.

the fact remains he got an approval before penetration.
a single no could have prevented conception. do you know the number of times conception have been prevented by women with strong will? that a man wants to sleep with a woman precedes the woman's approval. her approval is the ultimate action so women should be held more responsible!

jennykadry:
^^You no reach

i thought as much. . . .

Carlosein:
it has always been a child from conception. time does not make it more/less a child.

see the video link provided above.

it's not a child from conception. . . .it's blood in the first trimester.
for it to qualify as a person - it must have a brain, consciousness, etc.

debosky:
Windy, Wet Britannia?

Horrocious didn't you say? 

horrocious on a particular day of the week and a certain weather condition: cold, windy, wet, tuesday night.

united go there on saturday and the weather forecast is even favourable.

jennykadry:
Can I marry you?

if you don't mind. . . . .

- i stay in a hut in awka east local government
- i am a subsistence farmer
- the rain has been horrible this year so the returns/harvests are going to be low.
- i have no fat whips, i only have 3 overweight donkeys and one local dog.
- i inherited a tiny bicycle from my grandfather i take to the market every tuesday
- i am single and no baby momma drama.

mbulela:
There has been a few informed arguments in the media in recent times that irrespective of how much fun the new united way of play is to the eyes, there is a seeming imbalance in the system.
We seem not to have gotten a balance between our attack and defence.
a look at the number of shots on target in the Chelsea,spurs and Arse games prove a point. it is the hughest number of shots on target at OT in the last 5 or 6 years.

this why it's called attacking football.
see, fans and the media cannot have it both ways. when united were conservative in 2008/9, playing dull football and keeping clean sheets, they were berated, criticized for being the worst team under ferguson.

now, he's created an attacking force that puts many players in the opponent's half of the pitch, leaving the defence exposed, and people are still talking about the number of shots on target opponents punt at us. we cannot have it both ways. there's no balance between attack and defence.
you either attack or defend. no sitting on the fence - we are not swansea!

Whether it is down to the makeshift defence,absence of Vida and Rio, Evra's continual denfensive failure,lack of an enforcer in the middle or even our failure to defend from the front properly or just a misguided belief that De Gea is vulnerable from distance.
I am not sure which it is obvious something is not balanced about this fun system.

it has nothing to do with enforcer in the middle of the pitch. it is mostly de gea factor.
opponents have gone to spain to see de gea's appalling record from long shots - which suits united perfectly.
instead of them to work their interplays around our back four - they have resorted to taking it from distance like dzeko did in wembley. van der vaart kept taking long shots too like a mumu when passing was the best option!


very soon, they would drop that strategy and really have a go at us.
chelsea did that very well on sunday but fortunately for us, torres has forgotten how to finish! i like the way we play these days - just like the good ol' times. fergie's mantra: my kids are better than yours
i have skilful players, you have got skilful players. let's see who would score more.

i say woe on stoke this weekend.

jennykadry:
Now we are talking. So are women that look for men that are financially okay, still gold diggers?

never! how can they be gold-diggers? who wan suffer?

would i advise my female siblings to marry okada men? after all the money my parents squandered on their education? hell no!
people should marry from their class. if anyone decides to go lower, that's his/her own headache. if any girl decides to go higher than her class, kudos to her. as long as the man values her, who are we to complain?

4llerbuntu:
look at the records and form books again. tell yourself home truths, even if you cannot admit such in the presence of tools like DK and coogr

you are a miserable sod!

leave my name out of your verbal intercourse with your comrades.
i give my views and opinion on arsenal fc. . . .which i am entitled to. if it makes me a tool in your crooked eyes, then you need to be lobotomized.

jennykadry:
@ Coogar
HABA NAAA. IT is not some women's fault that only the rich men come their way

i agree with you.

Seriously sha, why would a woman marry a jobless broke azzed dude?

it should be an offence for any woman to marry a jobless broke azzed dude.

Carlosein:
Is this what people are advocating for?

this is sterling idiocy.

the child in that image is almost 6 months gone!
that is no longer abortion - that's induced delivery!

Confilass:
@davidylan & Coogar, when u're talking about issues do know are u address it.  Once in my life, I had said I'll be d last to carry a child out of wedlock but when it happens, I couldn't help the situation.  If it was moni I had it to abort, even a professional in dat field had warn me and so I had no other options.  So talk less.

where did i ever say you should abort your baby or whatever?

@davidylan & Coogar, I'll still inform u I don't contact and won't do.  How for God's sake will u disturb one dat knows the baby is his blood on how d child is fairing.  It's pure waste of time, do u tell him to eat when he's hungry.  One thing is sure, the evil dat men do live with them, sure.

contact who? i really don't understand you.
you just put my name in your post and i cannot remember having this discussion with you at any time in this thread.

It get me piece off when u're talking about the woman he's married to, is she not aware she had a child b4 marrying him. What are we saying here? Let's do unto others, what we would 've love others to do unto us.

how many married women are that reasonable?

no woman would allow her husband visit her ex in the name of seeing his love-child. especially nigerian women.
you people are so insecure and you don't even trust your husbands anyways. every effort would be blocked off cos you are 100% certain the husband and his ex might rekindle their love once communication becomes regular.

the men who even force themselves to see their love-children get taken advantage of. i know a colleague in this mess as we speak. he had a child in his university days and he does everything for her. weekend outings, picnics, etc. sometime last year, he got married to another woman and the moment he got married, his babymama went into craze mode. she calls him in the middle of the night to tell him his daughter is running temperature and the father should leave his house and see his daughter. the new wife is starting to feel uncomfortable with the constant calls, etc.

a man cannot serve 2 wives. he either sticks with the ex/lovechild camp or he sticks with his new wife. otherwise, there will be problems.
nigerian women don't understand balancing. they want it all. it's all or nothing for them.
in that wise, i cannot blame rahman for completely ignoring his ex and the love-child. he must protect his marriage. it might sound sad or unfair, but one man's laughter is another man's tears.

the world has never been fair - let's deal with it.

debrief08:
So David by your analysis, Jesus Christ should ve been aborted. He was concieved out of wedluck after all. If Jesus was concieved in dis generation a lot of you would ve called Mary Ashewo and Joseph a Mugu

matthew 1:18-19.