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tpiah11:
finished paying off his mortgage yet he still has small children?

as you have been told, many of these men married quite late.

not likely, or else doesnt show good planning. If he has paid off his mortgage, then he should have more flexibility in living arrangements, eg not be stuck in one place waiting for someone to collect the reward of his labour.

if you apply for the mortgage just after graduating, it's possible to finish it off by 50. the living arrangement isn't the cause of the divorce. greed is the key!

does the judge know he's homeless?

do they care?
they claim the priority is the kids. as long as the kids are safe, the man can go to blazes for all they care.

would you wish your female sibling finds herself in similar circumstances?

why would she want to take what it's not hers? i would personally drive her out of the disputed house. it looks bad on the wife's family to even be a witness to such nonsense. if she's contributed nothing to the house, she has no rights to be there.

if he owns the car then he should write it off.
Owning a range rover, (very expensive vehicle), implies he can afford to buy another car for his personal use, since range rovers do not come cheap. He has expensive tastes.

see your mouth like he should write it off.
i hope you know it's a different thing entirely if he drives the car off the grand canyon & it's another that someone else is reaping the fruits of his labour?

if he has paid off the car as you wished before, then he's not still making payments.

and thus he should be denied the rogues to enjoy the services of what he paid for?

some logic you got there. since you have finished paying for your expensive shoes, it's ok for someone else to take it from you.

as per credit score, he can look for alternatives such as cheaper cars or auction, for his personal use.

which cheaper alternatives?
do you know the effect of poor credit score in the US? some companies won't even hire him if they run his details on the system - it's that bad!

in divorce, nothing is fair.

and that explains why 70% of all divorces are initiated by the women.

manny4life:
I believe we have been through this before, personally I WILL NOT share my assets with ANY woman. If my wife decides to divorce me as a result of her doing, we will sure have a messy divorce that will yield her pain and bitterness and at the end of it, probably nothing.. But defintiely not murder.

better don't marry....
the moment she signs the dotted lines at the registry, she has full access to your assets. even if you cohabit, common law applies in some jurisdiction after a certain number of years.

there's a reason simon cowell isn't married!

tpiah11:
is it highbrow neighborhood house overseas where everything is on credit? Meaning he's paying a huge loan which btw could also place him in serious trouble should the economy go bust? Does housing crisis ring a bell?

and what if he has finished paying off his mortgage? you mean it's fair for him to be homeless while another man is enjoying the fruits of his labour? would you wish the same for your male sibling?

as per range rover, does the same not apply, or did he pay cash for it as if he's in nigeria? If he does not have money to pay his range rover bill, wont it be returned to the dealer? So what exactly is the so called "gain" the ex-wife is having here?

he could have bought it on auction, he could have finished paying for it. even if it gets returned to the dealer cos of failed payments, it's his credit score that would be ruined, not his wife. should he continue to pay for a car he's not driving? that's fair to him?

abeg, get some perspective..

Fhemmmy:
Again, part of being a man is to handle tough situation and those that wanna slug it out till death do them path, what would they gain by killing their wife, mother of their own kids . . . . . Now the wife is dead and they are in jail, who will take care of their kids, such man is dumb and foolish, let her go and start your life with the 50% that is left.

let the system that made that law take care of the kids. these men must have thought of the consequences before carrying out the act. as far as he's concerned, the greedy wife is now 6 feet deep. everything else is an academic point!

tpiah11:
the system is not as messed up as you try to portray.

it is more than messed up than i portray. in most cases, the men don't even have the money to fight for their rights in court whilst women always get legal aid of some sort to afford the best legal defense.

as far as i know, divorce settlements are based on income, if a man cant afford the court ordered payment, he can file for a reduced fee, with evidence. And if you dont want to pay at all, well there are people who do that, ask them for advice. As per the ex-wife dating, is she supposed to remain single?

how can you not pay?
there's an automatic arrest warrant for deadbeat dads. after the threshold of $2,500 child support is crossed, he cannot even apply for an american passport even if he was born by obama himself.

In cases where the man is indeed being bled dry, then he should look for legal ways to reduce the amount he's paying.

there are no legal ways - he doesn't get any support to even fight the case in court. the system is horribly biased against men.

But the fact remains, if the man is rich, then his payments will be high,unless the judge decides otherwise. What his ex-wife does with the money is her own business, nothing anyone can do bout that. But if the money was made in your current place of residence, then the laws of that place of residence also apply, inasmuch as you are not in nigeria.

it's called child support, not wife support. every penny of the money i send should go towards the child. here lies the motivation why women go this route in the first place. the family courts don't even give them the responsibility of providing the receipts of what they spend on the kids.

yes, some women do lie in order to nail the man, so find ways of protecting yourself if your wife is the type of person who does that. Possibly she has done it before to other people and you both laughed over it and enjoyed the spectacle, but when you became the victim, its now a bad affair.

the only protection is not to marry at all....

while the wife is studying nursing, or after she has studied nursing, is there any cogent reason why the man could not study law or a legal related course just in case of the future?

you mean there aren't lawyers that have been shafted by ex-wives in america. wetin concern family law courts with a man's profession? it's her word against her hubby and she wins more often than not.

folks need Jesus sha, its very unfortunate how things are.

now you are talking....

Fhemmmy:
With the kinda culture we have back home, the woman already know that the man will go back to her mama and papa and tell them all sort of stuff, and so the woman is only playing the same game, cos the man feel like he has lost out, losing the woman and the house to another dude . . . dont get me wrong, it is NOT easy, but part of being a man is being able to mitigate risk and handle tough situation.

well, not everyone can handle tough situation. yes, many would dust their shoulders and start all over again without sweating - but don't pretend there aren't some men that would slug it out till death do us part.

Fhemmmy:
How do you define destroying you . . . She will walk away with half of what you own . . . there is a law to ALL these and we all know that, if you smart enough to know that she is not the one for you within a year of being together . . . look more into the law that she will use to take all you have . . . BUT assuming she has been with you, fed you, warm your bed and carry your kids in her womb for like 10 years, and TELL ME IF SHE DOES NOT DESERVE HALF OF WHAT YOU OWN . . . besides, what you think you own are jointly owned . . . . Most men wanna do Nija style - Get out of my house, Na lie, it is a family home that belongs to you, her and the kids, and God forbid divorce, but if it happens, you want the woman to now go and look for a house with the kids, while you reside in the house like a king? Na lie . . . wont happen.

if the above is the case, the men won't go out guns-blazing. you cannot tell me every man going through divorce shot their wives. i know of incidents where the wives walked out quietly. she even left the house the court awarded her to the husband....

in many of the cases, the woman has threatened divorce, coupled with white lies that the husband has been abusive to her and the kids so as to win custody or slam a restraining order against him to see his own kids.

it gets messier when the hubby realises the money he sends for the kids upkeep are converted into the wife's personal use which she then squanders on her new boyfriend. if you hear some of the stories in that yeye america-----you would understand why some men shoot to kill.

EyesWideOpen:
You're a cockslurping arsehole!
Your freedom of speech give you the right to say trash against someone exercising their own right to free speech, what does that say about you? You've cockslurped your sense away to the point you're confused as to what you stand for.
Arsehole cockslurper!

your trolling attempt has failed, just like the condom that shoulda kept you away from the waiting ovüm.

manny4life:
Exactly my point... It will be easy if the women just walked away with nothing, but when I lived in DC, I saw a bitter marriage pushing this far. The woman threatened to deal with the man because the man lied on some papers that brought her to the U.S., how callous can people be? She threatened hell and what not, it took the grace of God for the man not to react to killing his wife. Imagine losing your children, your money, house, everything you have labored for...

that's the point, bro.....
you lose your kids, money, house, assets to a greedy wife and people expect the men not to behave irrationally?

neoapocalypse:
You do know you're stooping low yourself , learn to be civil in your choice of words , calling someone an eidiot and a monkey isn't so civil.

to every action, there's a reaction.
judges who send serial killers to their deaths are not murderers.

same logic applies......

Fhemmmy:
Some of the options are:
1. Let go of the woman, go your way and she go hers
2. Sit down with her to understand why she is no more the sweet damsel you brought from the village in Africa
3. Instead of the man sitting around the house and let the woman slaves for him, help in making life easy for such woman.
And so much more . . . But killing is far from one of them.....it is a weakling that will kill defenseless being

your number 1 is not applicable.

with these women, there's no clean break. go your way & she goes her ways? for where? she won't let you go without destroying you.

the man that shot his wife called the cops herself and said "I have killed the woman that wanted to destroy my life"

that speaks volumes!

manny4life:
You have lived long enough in this country, you know how these things work. There is NO justification of murder; unfortunately, the law recognizes such lapses that led to murder. I get your point and all I am saying in short is, folks should ALWAYS try to resolve issues with their spouses before it gets out of hand. There are marriage counseling, family intervention, or even legal advisory...

it's not that simple!
like i said earlier - if only women could walk away without enslaving the man for 18/19 years to pay chid support for kids he doesn't get to see, maybe men wouldn't lose their liberty or their lives to protect their assets.

it's one thing for women to leave an abusive marriage, it's another thing to heap a whole lot of expenses on his shoulders to cripple him. in 30% of the cases, the men aren't even the biological fathers of the kids they have supported for 19 years.

how is murder not imminent?

tpiah11:
like i said, if you people's girlfriends, boyfriends or wives, did not off you despite your doing things that "led to it", then what exactly is your justification for such, unless it was preplanned all along?

anyway, follow Jesus so you can be saved.
that is the long and short of the matter.
i just find d.umb responses, irritating.
folks want to kill but they dont want to be killed, that's simply s.tupid.

please.....
don't permeate this zone with your air of stüpidity. your fellow coven witches tried hard with this morönic analogy and it was quickly flushed down the loo.

there's nowhere in the west women get kicked out of their houses like men do - so why would there be any need for any woman to go trigger-happy? have you lost your ability to reason?

ladygogo:
Yimu and have you been faithful to ChidinmaÉ.

i swore to remain faithful at okija shrine via FaceTime few years ago.

I will be waiting for the invite to you and Sheniqua`s wedding . Abi na Latiqua. hehehehe.

odin forbid!

SirShymexx:
Nah, it's not even a UK thing - it's a yank thing. The funniest about it is that: these guys are basically hood nyggahs, with no prior acting skills, nor knowledge of filming/productions. I believe one of them just wrote a story about his experience, got his buddies together with a camera, and decided to make a web series last August. Low budget series.
However, they ended up making a YouTube classic. When I saw it two weeks ago, each of the episodes had less than 20,000views - but right now, every single episode is on at least 500,000 views, with interviews everywhere. Major media companies are also trying to buy the rights to the series right now. They have been on major radio stations doing interviews since last week yano.
Power of the internet and ability to create something out of nothing.

thanks for the heads up!

SirShymexx:
Lol. Like I always told you - stop discussing things out of ya depth when it comes to issues with technicalities, especially the law in the west. Stick to issues about babies and STIs - I like you when you do that. At least, you do sound like you can be a good mother sometimes.

don't dignify that semi-illiterate with a reply abeg. she didn't even know what VAWA stands for until last year. she's clueless about her immediate environment so don't waste your breath.

4 When questioned, Nigerian Joseph Iwueke knew almost nothing about his wife-to-be. A court heard he organised the fake wedding so he could stay in the UK

for this reason alone, he deserves to be jailed. if you are going to do sham wedding, at least be smart about it.

SirShymexx:
It's not "Top Boy". Top boy is a UK thing, with Asher D and Kano.

It's called: money and violence. Just youtube it.

i'll look it up, bro.....
i have run out of TV series to watch. any known actor there? adewale agbaje? john boyega?

ladygogo:
clown! abegi! you dont expect the chidinma you left in Ituku 25 years to still be the same person. Heck, the Coogar of 25 years ago isnt the same Coogar. Besides, most of the couples in this article have a wider age difference , are you telling me the men started dating them when they were in diapers!

she's still the same - we still talk regularly and as soon as i can afford the list her parents sent to me, i am heading off to ituku to complete the marriage rites.

chidinma's perseverance wows me. any women that can stay steadfastly by me all these years in the midst of back-breaking temptations deserve my engagement ring. i don't want chidinma to join witchcraft cos i dumped her.

Anyway, when the time comes I trust you wont go back to the village to pick up some random girl. hehehehe.

i will surprise you.
i am sending you a personal invite for the trado-wedding. some of us are too honest to ditch our childhood girlfriends.

SirShymexx:
@Coogar
I've got a webseries for you that's like The Wire - it's about Flatbush in Brooklyn. Acting isn't that professional, but the script is cray. Once you watch the first and 2nd episodes, you won't stop till you watch the whole series.
Also, you should be able to relate easily cos it's somewhat like what goes on in London bits as well.

what's it called?
are you sure it's not the one channel 4 did last year? top boy?

freecocoa:
Smh, if only you can prove that garden of eden really existed, plus if we are to go with that, the serpent is a man that turned into a snake to deceive the woman, technically, the man brought chaos into this sweet-bitter world.

why did she allow herself to be deceived? the man was living in eden before the woman. he must have been tempted by other stuff too but he kept himself within the laws of the garden.

Just realize already that this man is a mad man, one who is a danger to anyone at all, don't go shooting anyone o, I won't visit you in prison sha.

prison ke?
i would empty all the bullets in the magazine on her then bite a capsule of cyanide. that's the fair deal!

raumdeuter:
How about everyone takes what they brought into the marriage and what they contributed financially into the marriage

bwahahahaha...
that wouldn't favour the women so they wouldn't take that kinda option. how much money do women make overall in america? they may work harder but working hard doesn't always translate to making more money.

women love to choose jobs that aren't really mentally tasking. they work 18 hrs and get paid what some men make in 6 hrs. yes, she's working longer time but at what rate? men still contribute far more than women in every society so if it's about what they contributed - most women would have only 3 ghana-must-go bags after their divorce.

ladygogo:
My sentiments exactly!

The men should also ask themselves why they are going to marry some random girl in the village. What's wrong with the women in their immediate environment?

many of these men left their girlfriends in the village to hustle abroad. i left chidinma in ituku almost 25 years ago. she was my first love in primary school. if i go back home to marry her then it's because i'm a control freak?

freecocoa:
I don tire biko, blame it on women, they are everything wrong with the world.

yup!
right from the garden of eden. it was all peaceful until a woman arrived in eden.

The man was defending his defenseless baby, the law can understand that, this grown man on other hand, shooting his wife because of an argument is madness, he should be locked up and the keys thrown away.

he wants to be locked up. he didn't run away. he handed himself in. he would rather be in jail than let an ingrate pïss all over him in the name of a flawed system.

good for him. let the greedy wives claim their child support in heaven. murder-suicide is now very common & this is mostly from caucasian males. if the law is fair, the men won't have to turn the gun on the wives, the kids and themselves.

freecocoa:
I can count o but let's forget about that, and stop making it sound like all these women never loved their husbands, we don even deviate from OP sef.

yes, they loved their husbands initially.......till they found another man they love even much more. what choice does a village wife have when the UK-based suitor comes knocking?

I disagree, some monsters are born, I know a very wicked man who almost killed his wife, history has it that, he has always been mean/hard hearted even as a child, you want to tell me you'll blame his behavior on his wife? Go jor.

monsters aren't born....
somebody somewhere made him a monster. women with their caustic tongue know how to push the buttons & when they get beaten, they cry for help.

Now that's funny, but I don't think any sane woman would stay in such marriage, women are human beings with feelings o, how anyone puts money over their well being and sanity beats me.

if women can stand by the roadside to do pròstitution, why won't she put money over her well-being? abeg, money answereth everything.

I like the "real" man na, see this guy o .

Iro o, The man can fight, he is and adult heck! they can defend themselves against anything and killing someone who angered you, isn't self defense.

what the father in uganda did isn't self defense. he would have gone to jail for laying his hands on the housemaid anywhere in the western world. self-defense gini?

freecocoa:
Well, since some women are richer than their husbands, i'll say the system's not biased.

how many can you count??
this is where hypergamy comes into play. women have always played it smart from the outset. marry a rich man & kick him out after a while to take half of his belongings.

freecocoa:
Never said all men are monsters or wives saints, any man who kills his wife for not wanting to share his assets could pass for a monster though.

well, monsters are made, not born!
how did he suddenly become a monster? you take a man's house, his kids, his cars and half of his assets - what else is there to live for?

If she's the one who cheated and asked for a divorce, shouldn't the man be the one getting more? If no, then the system is indeed flawed but then again,I don't believe it's exactly the way you make it out to be.

the richer party loses half & in most cases, the man is the richer party. you really think a naija wife would initiate divorce when she is the one that would lose half of her assets? na those kind wives nice pass. even if her husband is bringing mistresses to the house, she would turn the other cheek.

That's what I'm talking about, that's how a "real" man should treat a woman, buy her car to wipe her tears, you da man .

so you like the "real" man?

Yes o, murder can be justified here biko, we are talking of a defenseless baby.

case closed then!
some of the stuff some husbands have suffered in the hands of their wives abroad is more painful than what that evil housemaid did in uganda.

raumdeuter:
I know a guy who is trying to divorce his wife of 10yrs, they didnt have any child together. they have been separated for 4yrs within which the wife got pregnant for another guy

The woman claims she doesnt know the father of the baby, that they just met at an outing and had a quickie

DNA has proven the husband isnt the father but the judge insist that since the child was born within that marriage regardless of DNA he should pay the child support


He hasnt proceeded with the divorce, In that case freecocoa that an example of how twisted the law can be

i hope your guy is very rich.

freecocoa:
So all those women are now from poor homes abi? Na wa for you o, there's just no chance that she can actually be the victim? God is seeing you o. I no argue on that one again.

of course she could be a victim.
my point is, not all men are monsters and not all wives are saints.

What do you mean about showing true colors? So the man that pretended to be nice and married her only to turn her into a punching bag nko? She did the wise thing by not making irrational decisions like poisoning him or shooting him,she's the more sensible person here.

if she poisons him, forensic evidence would catch up with her and jail her. what they normally do is to deliberately cheat on their husband and ask for a divorce.

Just kuku say the state put these women up to it so as to gain from such situations.

that's exactly what the state is doing. if you attach an incentive to a process unjustly, then it's expected that some people would want to take advantage of the process.

You know you can't hurt me jor, i'll cry and say I'm sorry and you'll forgive me .

of course na.....
on top of that, i will get you a brand new car to wipe off your crocodile tears.

And you compare a full fat cow-like adult abusing an infant to husband and wife issues? I giff up coogar.

would murder be justified in that instance?
freecocoa, don't give up yet. you have an unanswered question left.

freecocoa:
The same way she married him, thinking he was a good man, only to find out he was a monster, it's a two way street coogar, you can't just blame her for it all.

she married him for the financial benefit. why didn't she marry her fellow villagers? why are you acting like you dunno there's a financial benefit attached to divorce?

I still find it hard to totally believe a man would lose all based on mere 'she said' arresting him based on that is one thing, jailing him and having him lose all based on that is another.

that's the reality....
"she said" can land any husband in jail with a twinkle of an eye.

I never said that's only when she finds out but it could be all she needed to fight back, she could have been planning, you don't go shopping without money to pay for the good now do you?even if you buy on credit, you'll still pay at some point.

so she had it in her mind for years before showing her true colours, and you still cannot see why their husbands resort to killing them?

Okay let me agree that the system is flawed, now why is that? Don't you think that it could be because women have been maltreated for too long and the system wants to change this?

the state is benefitting from it.
the system was deliberately made lop-sided so that the state can benefit from it.

Not if I shoot you first na .

let me catch you at the shopping mall.

Ofcourse there are desperate women, just like there are evil men, I just don't agree that being provoked, justifies murder.

remember the evil ugandan maid.
if the father of the abused child had killed the maid, would the murder have been justified?

there are plenty of situations where murder is more than justified even in marriage. paternity fraud is one of them. if a man who was forced to pay child support for a child that isn't his for 18 years suddenly realises he was defrauded & he shoots the fraudulent wife - the murder is justified in my book!

yeyenati:
errrr. Miss Miss?

Coogar, show me your thing na. You just dey do anyhow for here. Biko, Who is your wife?

who call my name? I owe you a body-bag or sumfin. sup you?


YeaaYeaNaughty

which thing am i showing you?
who's my wife? iyabodeh na!

ask4bk:
Sorry I meant div 10 in FUT seasons. I've been to div 1 in seasons. But now I've dropped to 3. Going back to 1 soon. I only play evenings

i will add you soon.....
one day, i will catch you and tear you to shreds.

freecocoa:
Who is to say his motive for getting married isn't to bring her to work and take all she earns, plus even abuse and enslave her? He married her, right? Why did he marry her?

he married her cos he was led to believe she's a honest decent woman. you guys forget many nigerian men go back to marry the girlfriends they left behind.

Paddi me na lie jor, there are procedures/processes in a criminal case, it is not a he said/she said thing jare, anything other than this is not lawful, no be who first call popo dey win case, get real.

in the US/UK. a woman can have her hubby kicked out of the house without any physical abuse. she only needs to claim she feels threatened by him in the house. police would escort the man out of his house to go find somewhere to sleep for the night. if she lies that she was abused, the man will be arrested instantly.

why do you think men are starting to shun marriage?

The disregard can be on the part of the man, he cheats,abuses her and expects her to be an obedient and faithful wife, she refuses and wants to fight back, he shoots her, boom!

why is it that it's only after the women start earning $$$ they suddenly find out he's cheating? you surely don't believe what you wrote up there, do you?

Now you are making it sound like the legal system should not be taken serious here, so all lies win in court now, haba Oga sir, if that's the case, we shouldn't be having this conversation.

i dunno about nigeria.... but the legal system in the western world concerning domestic abuse is highly flawed.

I will catch you first, punch your face, lie and have you thrown in jail.

just make sure you are out of the country when i get released from jail. word to my momma, i will shoot every piece of bone in your body.

That's one desperate and wicked woman, we can't judge all women based on her actions, now can we?

so now you agree there are desperate and wicked women? finally, we are getting somewhere. i just don't think all the men in the OP's article are mentally-deranged. many of them had no single criminal record before they shot their wives. they were provoked!

ifyalways:
I quite agree with some of your posts, however, nothing justifies murder.
Agreed, those men were pushed to the wall but ending the marriage as opposed to the wife's life is a better option.

Well, the ladies are the ones getting killed because of their greed. You know you don't love a man, then don't jump into marriage just so you escape poverty.

well, that's the norm.
they pretend to love him just to get on the plane to america. once they start working, the hubby suddenly becomes a monster, a lazy dirty stinking man.

freecocoa:
An agreement is an agreement, so long as part of the house is what comes with getting married, she earned it and should have it, in and after marriage.

so how are we sure that wasn't her motive of getting married in the first place? i mean what stops you now from marrying mikel obi, stay with him for 3 months and ask for a divorce? you mean you have earned the right to take his house by the virtue of signing a piece of paper?

Now you are just messing with me, like men don't cry too abi? We are all blessed with the ability to cry, so if you feel the popo responds faster to tears, then cry your way out.

all she needs to say is the man was the abuser. the cops will cuff the man instantly. that's the way it works unless there's another witness that states otherwise.

Who told you he paid for everything? Let's assume he did, is that not enough reason to want to take everything the woman owns as pay back for what he supposedly spent on her? He decided to pay, he wasn't forced to, so that one isn't even a point to be considered here, so long as they got married, whatever they both have in the marriage, belongs to both of them.

the reason for this kinda brawl has nothing to do with her income. the real reason is her total disregard for her hubby and sometimes infidelity. how much do nurses make sef?

It's not just about not wanting the man, there has to a reason, now if the reason is that she no longer loves him, I don't think anyone would ask the man to give her half of his assets nor stop him from visiting his kids, he might actually get custody in this case sef.

91% of all custody cases go to the women. she must be a drug addict or mentally unstable to not be awarded the custody. women always often get to keep everything - all she needs to do is to lie she's the victim.

Pie is messing with your head.

if i catch you...

Are you saying she knew from the get go or after the DNA test?

she knew from the get go......this was her comment concerning the matter.

"I had to turn to welfare to get assistance to take care of them and I had to put him down as the father. That was the only way I could get into the system. Everything is my fault, He shouldn’t have to pay it at all. I want everything to go away for him so he can get on with his life.”

Timbuktou:
First of all, those sorts of judges are the norm not the exception. If they could do this to this man who has proof of paternity, imagine the fate befalling millions of men in a 'he-said-she-said' divorce case.

Honest mistake sha. What stops her from staying the judgement and telling the judge to let off? So, when the man pays will she refund him the cash or collect it and say sorry o, na wetin judge talk?

the money she owes has been forgiven by the judge but the same judge wants an innocent man to pay the money owed to the state. can you imagine such nonsense? there are many men forced to pay child support for kids that are not theirs.

this is how men get screwed up for things they know nothing about. if he wants an american passport as we speak, he will not get one. if anyone owes more than $2500 in child support in the US, he cannot get an american passport regardless of where he was born.

how is murder not expected?

freecocoa:
No, he couldn't.

The order to pay came before the DNA test abi? So that's understandable but I don't know what kinda judge would insist even after its been proven that he isn't the child's father, the man should just appeal.

Plus, it may have been a honest mistake on the woman's side, she may not have known the child wasn't his, especially if she had been with other men before realizing she was with child.

she knew it wasn't his but she still used his name as the father of the child for the financial benefit. although, she hes since told the court to stop hounding the man - a judge still wants the man to pay some of the money & they are threatening him jail time if he fails to pay.