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Lagunna: Damnnnn..........

That white boy is good..Shiiiiit...

his rise to the top has been super-rapid in the last few years. he used to be crap but in the last 2 years, there's no one iller.

"i'll throw your mother in a pool, vegetable soup"

that line was cold.

arsenal lost?

i was watching bayern on delayed telecast. arsenal lost at the emirates?

i doubt it....

Dhellake: What was his contributions to those winnings?? That's what matters, Even Kuszack won this things as well

while chelsea's captain slipped like a bïtch in moscow, a young anderson despatched his penalty kick like a professional to keep his team in it.

even fergie said anderson's penalty & his gesture to gear up the fans swung the momentum back united's way. his contribution to winning that final is more than drogba, terry & anelka put together.

elampiro: * It's 9. I am counting matches from my memory. Even if it's 8, I means he needed only 7 in three seasons to make it. So why do you doubt whoscored?

why should we believe your memory? the same memory that saw hargreaves "clipping" messi's left foot?

* whoscored tweet it in April 2014, and again afresh in August 2014. TWICE independently. Remember whoscored interfaces automatically with opta.

they probably don't know what goals from outside the box is.

* Ashley is no where near that figure. Your previous chart was dubious.

eplindex is more credible than whoscored - they only focus on the premier league. whoscored has a wider range of leagues & competitions - they are not as thorough & anglo-centric like eplindex.

eplindex wins my vote anyday & from their calculations, ashley young has scored more goals outside the box than rooney. they have a breakdown of the goals. how come opta isn't tweeting this info & it's whoscored that tweeted it?

* I though the argument was between Rooney and RVP? RVP didn't even appear among the 11 best.

RVP scored more goals outside the box than rooney in 12/13. that was my claim & it's valid.

ashley young has scored close to 12 goals from outside the box & he's higher than rooney in the last 5 years - QED!!!

Dhellake: But not up to what was paid for fat boy Anderson

anderson went on to win 4 league titles, champions league, several carling cups, club world cup, community shield, etc

it was money well-spent.
how many league titles has mikel got? i doubt it's more than 1.

elampiro: I don't get you. He had 9 alone in the last two years.

May be we discuss this weekend. I have many areas I am yet to respond to you as I would wish to.

elampiro: In 2o11/12 I told you that he had more goals from withdrawn position, that is what the analysys wrote. It said RVP had more goals from within the 6 yard box.

which analysis are you talking about? if it's that link you copied then you have tied yourself up cos the analysis compared different seasons for the 3 strikers.

Now you have accepted Rooney scored 6 goals (3 from open play sef) last season. He had 3 last two seasons. That is 9 If he scored 9 from outside the box in the last two seasons? why do you think he didnt score 6 in three preceding seasons
My ffriend, whoscored is right.

he had 8 in the last 2 seasons.
why is it so difficult for you to read simple stats? 6 + 2 = 8, not 9!

goals outside the box in 12/13 - 2 goals
goals outside the box in 13/14 - 6 goals

RVP outscored rooney from goals outside the box in 12/13. RVP scored 3 goals.

AirborneLacer: Considering his outing at the FIFA U-17 WC, Mikel was worth the saga and every penny spent on him.

£16m in 2006?
that's more than united paid for ronaldo, more than what arsenal paid for walcott, more than what arsenal paid for arshavin. if it's converted to euros, it's about €30m in today's money.

Make a case for your £7m hero Bebe who had no achievements and exploits to lean on

bebe's goal/game ratio is better than drogba, torres, kezman, shevchenko, pizarro, etc.

Consider this analogy; Dangote is freaking rich. He goes over to the mall to buy a local watch that's worth £500. The seller on seeing that this is the richest man in Africa decides to triple the cost of the watch. Dangote feels paying £1500 for a local watch is fair enough, he pays up.

translation - dangote is a maga!

£1500 aint anything to Aliko no doubt but literally he's been duped!
Mendes shitting on Manyoo since 1685

no wonder you are being harassed by FFP. chelsea bought mikel, not abramovic. chelsea are broke. try & dissociate chelsea from roman. they are 2 different entities.

Lagunna: I'm watching it right now...

it's a barfest!
the best battle that year on the planet. freestyle vs freestyle - top top performance from both dudes.

Lagunna: you should.. The battle was top notch..i think it was in 2009...

i will look into it....
have you seen DNA vs charron?

AirborneLacer: Well FIFA wanted to determine the validity of the contract Mikel signed with you guys but we intervened by volunteering to settle the whole ish through negotiation. Lyn still received £4m which was Mikel's valuation whilst we had Fergie up shutted up with £12m.

This is far different from Bebe's scenario where an agent is selling his commodity.

Mendes musta had Fergie cajoled into believing that Bebe was the next big thing. Had him dropping £4m as his valuation and £3m as the “intermediation service cost”

you paid £12m extra for a guy you coulda gotten for £4m and you are here talking about bebé. as far as maga goes, chelsea are the biggest magas in town.

mikel's deal to united was valid. united won the case at FIFA headquarters. SAF just didn't want to keep a player that wanted to be elsewhere so he sold to chelsea but at a premium.

united bought mikel from lyn for £4m, chelsea bought mikel from united for £16m. we made £12m profit from the deal without mikel kicking a ball at united. united have been sodömising chelsea since 1803.

Lagunna: coogar... have u seen this battle?

dna vs rone

when was this?
rone looks gay to me

i have not seen it.

^^^^
hitman makes me laugh - he's only got performance, his bars are just above average. he makes his first round so dopë you would think wow........only to follow it with useless verses. charlie clips destroyed the fücker.

loaded lux & calicoe was the bible of battle rap. that performance from lux was heavenly. only lux can choke and still win a battle. i think he's overrated though. he's only good in NY.

yeyenatu: your left yiansh there!! If he is cute, maybe I can consider though.

you are asking for cute when you yourself ain't cute.

Ksslib!!! Conceited is the man!!! Just that he no fine!!! Mtchewwwww...

and yet - if conceited asks you to drop your undies, you would do so at the speed of light.

YoungDaNaval: Hmm Ah Guess This Might Be The Reason Behind Giyaz Strange Sudden Act. Lyk Seriously, I Don't Knew That Nigga To Be Mischevious!

that dude was creeping me out, bro. i just read some of our exchanges in the past & we used to be cool. what came over him? was his phone stolen or what?

elampiro: You don't have google to search it out? How can I be lying?

i don't see how rooney could have a total of 24 goals scored outside the box throughout his career and then have 15 in the last 5 years.

he scored more belters for everton & his first 5 years at old trafford than the last 5 years.

this is the breakdown of his goals in 12/13 & 13/14. i included van persie to prove rooney was outscored from outside the box in 12/13.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1728042_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

then in 13/14 with the long absence of RVP, rooney was the chief taker of direct freekicks & crossed freekicks which boosted the stats

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1728043_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

if you add this to the old stats i provided, then young has more GSOB than rooney in the last 5 years. so my guess would be...... whoscored did a mistake in their tweet......replace the word player for striker and the claim would be more accurate.

Nihilist: Coogar you mean you can't see a conflict of interest where an agent owns the player he's selling?

unless the agent owns SAF(the buying party) as well, i see no fraud in the deal. if SAF had said no to the deal, would mendes force SAF's signature at gunpoint? come on, this isn't like buying a sack of rice. SAF musta run it by david gill then too as SAF doesn't keep the money, david gill does. either of them could have said no & the deal woulda been dead in the water.

You mean you can't see anything dodgy in queiroz who Mendes represents recommending a player who Mendes owns for sale at a ridiculously inflated price?


Na wa o

but SAF was satisfied with the price & that was why he paid. buying any young player is a risk. wenger was offered ronaldo & he turned the deal down. only last week, he said he regretted not signing him. bebe coulda been another ronaldo in the making. mendes packaged the deal well, he named the price & SAF was satisfied. where's the mago-mago in this?

[size=16pt]ROONEY'S LEADERSHIP FAILURE LAID BARE AT LEICESTER[/size]

Strange times at Manchester United. If the alarm hadn’t already been sounded it surely rings loud now after chaos reigned at the King Power Stadium on Sunday. Tumult and then some with Leicester City, lowly newly promoted Leicester at that, inflicting United’s third defeat of what increasingly looks like a long season to come. Stir? Louis van Gaal was enraged.

There was no little incredulity at Old Trafford as the East Midlanders smashed five past Van Gaal’s expensively assembled team. With the defeat comes disbelief, but not really that one of the league’s lesser teams secured victory. This has happen too often for surprise. Nor even that United shipped so many, with a defence broken asunder in recent times. But more specifically that the Reds should be so utterly bereft of leadership when it was needed most.

This, after all, is the club of Duncan Edwards, Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce and Roy Keane. Leaders all. Of different types too: those natural in command, and others who set the tone to follow. United is seemingly lacking both.

On Sunday, when Van Gaal so desperately needed his senior players to offer an example, to organise, to translate training pitch strategy into match day execution, none came forward. More broadly, when a leader of the intelligent, progressive kind is so badly required at Old Trafford nobody has emerged from the class of 2014.

In both respects United should be served by club captain Wayne Rooney. The talisman on-the-pitch; the marketing symbol off it. The man awarded the club captaincy by Van Gaal, a huge new contract by the executive, and proffered “special privileges” all in the same arc.

Yet, on Saturday, United’s leader became the captain to demand his crew paddles faster as the bow sinks below the waves. In one notable incident Rooney screamed at his team-mates, the callow Tyler Blackett included, moments after the Scouser gifted Leicester possession and with it a third goal. This is rotten leadership fast sinking into the class of Dickens scoundrel.

On the pitch Rooney completed 81 per cent of his passes; fewer still in the final third – this from the man who, at number 10, was deployed by Van Gaal as United’s creative fulcrum. At least the captain was at least partly contrite in admitting that “we should have kept the ball better.”

Prone to the Hollywood ball, Rooney failed with each of his long forward passes and, in attacking zones, Rooney managed just one shot – off target, of course. True, Rooney completed an assist for Angel Di Maria’s goal, but the pass was so underweighted that the Argentinian was forced into a sublime finish simply to complete United’s move.

Defensively Rooney made two tackles, but no blocks, interceptions or clearances. It was a performance of, sadly, common mediocrity and very little intelligence.

This is a strange kind of leadership - one his team-mates seem reluctant to follow. Then, on current evidence, Rooney might not convince his shadow to follow him into the sunset. This from the man who has twice sought refuge in the arms of United’s bitterest rivals; once more into the breach dear friends – ‘unless a better offer comes my way’.

Rooney wasn’t the only failure on Saturday, although the captain’s rotten form is the antithesis of inspiration. At the back Rafael da Silva and Marcos Rojo were repeatedly caught out of position, while Jonny Evans and his replacement Chris Smalling enjoyed error-ridden afternoons. Even Blackett, who had looked composed for an hour, suffered in the chaos of United’s defensive disintegration.

There should be little surprise in United’s defensive malaise. Where the club lost more than 1200 appearances of experience in Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidić and Patrice Evra, the trio was replaced with two, expensive, and adolescent left-backs: Rojo and Luke Shaw.

Meanwhile, Smalling, Evans and the Phil Jones were groomed to be the next generation of great United central defenders. Perpetual injury has dogged each, to say little of the technical limitations now inherent. None of this, however, is a surprise and United’s failure to acquire an experienced central defender in the summer appears more like negligence with each passing game.

In midfield Di Maria’s brilliance was not matched by Ander Herrera or Daley Blind, who were too often over-run by Leicester’s all-action engine room. Rooney did little to halt the flow in his deeper role, nor Juan Mata the second half substitute thrust into an unfamiliar position in central midfield.

With it Van Gaal had little choice but to react furiously after a performance as inept as any last season.

“You never expect that when you’re 3-1 ahead and you are two goals ahead for the second time,” said the Dutchman.

“You have to kill the game and keep possession but we could not do that. We gave it away with penalties, and you cannot win a game when you do that. I think we created a lot of chances and we made superb goals. But a game lasts 90 minutes and you have to do that for 90 minutes, not 60 minutes.”

Rooney echoed his manager in declaring the performance not “good enough as a team.” He could say little else except, perhaps, to include greater self-analysis in the critique.

The seemingly untouchable Scouser is set to continue in the United side even if there is little clear evidence he is the best player in any position. Special privileges indeed. Although the former Evertonian may no longer be first choice striker, with Robin van Persie and Radamel Falcao starting on Sunday.

“I was not so satisfied with Rooney as a striker,” Van Gaal said. “That is why I changed. Rooney can play in more positions, he’s a multi-functional player and I have tried him in a striker’s position. He has played well, but not spectacular. Falcao is a striker and I think he can do it better.”

Whether Rooney deserves the role at ‘number 10′ is moot, although Mata’s greater use of the ball, outstanding control and understanding of tempo are surely more important qualities in the position. Or, to put that another way, a player of Rooney’s profligacy in possession, leaden first touch and dependency on overhit passes might not normally be considered a team’s principle creator.

Wedded to Rooney in one way or another Van Gaal remains – a political decision that may yet come to haunt the Dutchman. It certainly did little good on Saturday. Leadership this was not as chaos broke forth.

where's elfenomeno??

AirborneLacer: C'mon Coog the kid wasn't worth that much.

This is just like Man City paying up £10m for Iheanacho and asking how much is £10m to us.

Mendes is shrewd at his schemes, not every detail is meant for the dailies after all

you of all people should know that a bidding war can raise the value of any item by 20,000%.

was mikel worth the £16m you paid for him in 2006?

Nihilist: Same queroz that is represented by non other than Jorge Mendes himself?

it doesn't matter - fact remains CQ & SAF are good friends. even without mendes, CQ could have recommend samson siasia back then & SAF would have listened. it was a low-risk transfer deal.

Anyway,The fact that 7million is nothing to Manyoo is not mutually exclusive to the fact that Bebe was never worth 7 million pounds.

He was also part owned by Mendes who then brokered a deal for Manyoo to buy Bebe from....himself.

how do you know what a player is worth & not worth? bebe had impressed in the preseason games where the scouts of madrid & benfica were also interested in him.

CQ did what a good friend could have done. he called SAF up & told him about this young unknown winger who everyone is raving about. bebe had a third party ownership & his buy-out clause was €9m.

That nigga still claimed agent fees on top.

that's his sweat, isn't it?
without his connection to the big clubs, bebe wouldn't have made it to the premier league. mendes claims agent fees on bebë just like he's still claiming agent fees on your manager(mourinho) till today.

Mendez was actually investigated by the Portuguese police for that deal...but the outcome of the investigation was never known...likely suppressed by Mendes and his deep pockets.

the outcome was never known cos he wasn't guilty of anything. third party ownership is perfectly legal in transfer deals particularly in that side of the world. bebe's deal is less complex than tevez's deal when city signed him.

That deal was the very height of Mago Mago. Only God knows how much Ferguson has been getting in kickbacks for deals for some of these players. Obertan, Kleberson, DjembaDjemba, Zaha, etc...

if you have any evidence of mago-mago, present it - no need for conjecture. SAF is too elite to be involved in such shady deals. the amount involved is too little to make SAF dirty his hands.

AirborneLacer: It's amazing and shocking.

Funny enough, Mendes and Kenyon had Guardian scampering all ends to come with a solid 3-pages story

I quite enjoyed the article - Investigative reporting it is. Not to mention that I learnt one or two things from it as well.

how much is £7m to united?
bebe was recommended by carlos queiroz - SAF trusted his ex-deputy's judgement & SAF signed bebe.

there's no single mago-mago in the deal. deal was thoroughly investigated & united came out without blemish. bebe was playing in the 3rd division when he was signed.

Ksslib: Thanks man.
You listed them in order of preference right?

anyone of them is fine - they are all barfests!

Ksslib: . Hopefully, i never turn grandpa by then..

Ehen, I wan begin watch youtube battles cos as una dey talk dat day, it seems like fun and E be like say you do watch alot. I dont know those guys so i no know who own to download .. Abeg Recommend like your fav 5 or 10 battles make i download them watch..

Thanks to etisalat, now man fit download anyhow without fear..

•hitman holla vs ayeverb
•dizaster vs DNA
•shotty horror vs arsonal
•tay roc vs ill will
•charlie clips vs conceited

elampiro: According to wbhoscored, Rooney is highest in the last 5 years. 5 YEARS.

That tweet came after we beat West Ham, I think.

*U can confirm day tweet urself.

we cannot see your tweet - you probably just formed that in your head. screenshot the twitter page - let us see how rooney has had 15 goals outside the box in the last 5 years.

he had only 1 in 12/13
he had 1 or less in each season between 11/12 and 08/09
he had 6 last season from his several freekicks he took.

he's not even up to ashley young if you add everything together.

13/14 - 6
12/13 - 1
11/12 - 1
10/11 - 1
09/10 - 1

that's a total of 10

even if we add 08/09, it's 11.

elampiro: Another stat that may interest you.
......

Premier League’s 11 top long-range goal scorers

Lampard 1st
Gerald 2nd
CR7 3rd
Defoe 4th
Henry4th
Ttevez 6th
Rooney 7th
http://soccerlens.com/premier-league-long-range-goalscorers/105163/


Also see Wayne Rooney- youngest to reach 175 goals.

so if lampard has scored 33 goals from outside the box, how is rooney the highest?

your twitter link says nothing.

JigsawKillah: giyazz for fücks sake coogar wasnt talking to u in the first place

are you smoking again?
come on
be wise son

nucca just came out of nowhere to start chatting piffle. i was just having a good time with kr0ne and others and the fool was talking in disjointed parables like a coked-up rabbi.

someone better hold this dude before i spaz on him.

GIYAZZ: Your Feeble-mindedness, ignorance and obtuseness is becoming enormous!
And it's clear you need help! What Nonsense! Look at this result of a congealed sperm, you think you are somebody to be identified with?? Haha!

you are a product of a leaked condom - the biggest mistake in the last 100 years was that you weren't aborted when your mom had the opportunity. she shoulda rubbed cyanide on her nipples so you could choke to death.

I do not need you interested in me, I am not one of your gay-mates for christ sake!! So stop hallucinating I notice you, you are useless burden to this section!!! A fOol at 35!!!! Bloody e-diot looking for men with lady-like a$s to bang! That's what you are!!!

so why were you following me about? showing me your brother's lyrics & stuff. do i look like a record label owner? were you born feet first? did the delay in getting your television head out of your mother's vulva overcooked your brain? was that where you got brain-damaged?

You will be locked soon! Just keep roaming around, Justice will catch you soon!!!

locked soon? who would lock me? you?
it shall not be well with your generation from 1720s.......i have been putting illegitimate kids like you down like a rabied dog.

S.tupid son of a bagged sperm! I bet you don't know who your father is, because your miserable air-headed mother was foolish enough to go buy sperm from a local distributor to have you!

says the bastärd that was a product of a gängrapê. have you forgotten the story of how you were born? akin your friend told me - your mother was assaulted by the most notorious vigilante group in your village and 13 of them räped her. you are a mixture of 13 sëmen samples......no wonder you are almost 40 & still living with your parents. son of a thousand fathers!

I know your story son, so better shut the ffuck up and don't let me expose you!!! Don't let me tell them who you are, what you do, and how short you are!!!!
E-diot!

you don't know my story - you don't even know the story of your birth....you were belched out of the cünt of a village witch. if you don't expose me - a humongous truck shall run over you in 7 days and turn your intestine to noodles for vultures to feed on.


you don't even know who you are dealing with. i will hit you so bad, you would curse the day of your conception. you think i give a fück about your gäy tendencies? is it my fault you were slurping on your PE teacher's semën while he lied to you it was milkshake?

kr0ne: I don't think she's up to 18 from what I saw and I think she's a crossbreed too.
Her pix? Lol! I wouldn't do that without her permission

teddy wouldn't mind......
do the needful, stop fidgeting. what could teddy do to you? if she attacks you lyrically, I will ghostwrite for you & bury her.

kr0ne: Giyaz has been acting strange since morning. He just keeps sending weird messages to me on bbm

you'd better call his parents - it might be clinical insanity. get emergency & have the dude sent to a mental hospital.

GIYAZZ: It's quite right that I've known you for this, but I have to confess, the current act of the "This" I may not have highlighted you are known for is a stray bullet travelling towards the direction of an ignorant street beggar, and within seconds; if the afforementioned beggar refuses to rebuke ignorance he may be hit. Be warned

how does the above relate to me for fück's sake. when you warn these kids not to take weed, they don't listen.

kr0ne: Teddy doesn't love me. She's just a friend, I don't do anything less than 18

so teddy is a child? can you show me her picture? she's probably on a high chair now with bib on her neck while she's taking nan(baby food).

elampiro: No, it was sorted by percentage. Except someone's has a high % to his total goals, he won't appear on your chart.

Hope u get. See u later.

the only condition on that chart is that only players with 2 league goals or more from outside the box were included. it then means in all the years covered, rooney scored 1 league goal or less from outside the box ......this is why he's not on any of the list for 5 consecutive seasons.

elampawa, this is not sapele where you can lie yourself out of a debate. anything you say can be verified & be used against you.

any more query?

GIYAZZ: You sound pained. Not just pained, you sound like a street mooch running around the internet raining insults on anybody that confronts you. You are like a broke Ghanian, you lack sense!

I only tried to pass a message to your numb personality, and you started barking!

Can't you for un sit and think? Cause I envision destruction in your miserable future if you continue this way!

Stop being sstupid!

your father sound pained!
where do irresponsible illegitimate children like you always sprout from. i thought the life expectancy in nigeria is low, how do you keep surviving with your pathetic thinking faculty?

you are a tool!
which stüpid message are you trying to pass? do i fücking know you from adam? i choose people i relate with & if you ever manage to assemble all the powerful telescopes in the world to build a super telescope, i still wouldn't be able to locate my interest in a recto-cranially inverted man-servant like yourself.

go suck your father's cöck - bloody faggöt!

elampiro: I will come back at night to respond well. I am choked now....

i hope the choke extends beyond tonight

if you cannot even read simple statistics then you should be tied to a stake nakëd & lashed by 7 masquerades.

on that chart, it clearly showed GSOB(absolute) and GSOB(percentage). even if there's an endemic of river blindness in edo state, stevie wonder would still have seen what's displayed there.

finally, the writer was talking about the season rooney operated behind hernandez - mostly in europe when we got to champions league final & when we destroyed chelsea in the title race.

that was the last time rooney had any decent performance in the hole.

GIYAZZ: I am dissapointed in you son, you ooze of proud and semi-illiteracy, I do not mean it in an insultive way though.

go fùck yourself & stop quoting me!
are you a flaming faggòt? what the fück is wrong with you? i dunno you anywhere & i don't want to associate meself with a village runt like you. just stay the fùck away from me henceforth.

elampiro: Lies upon lies.

Did you no see when I posted it here last season when whoscored published that Rooney has scored more goals from outside the box? Why does your chart not have for 2012/13 for proper understanding?

that is a lie....:
rooney hasn't scored more goals outside the box than lampard or gerrard or ashley young in the last 5 years.

go & bring your whoscored.com link here. van persie scored more league goals from outside the box than rooney sef in 12/13. so how can rooney be the highest in the last 5 years.

What you have is player with higher percentage, no absolute figures.

If Rooney scored 15 from outside the box out of 80 league goals in the last 5 years, he won't appear in your fake chart.

you cannot even read simple statistics. do you know the meaning of GSOB & GSOB%? GSOB is the absolute figure - the GSOB% is the percentage of the league goals outside the box to the total league goals scored by each player.

elampiro: So now you want to drag it to 2010/11?
Let us know now the year you pinned it on.

over 3 years ago would be between january 2011 & the night of the champions league final - when SAF preferred rooney/hernandez combo to berbatov/hernandez.

in 11/12, it was mostly rooney & welbeck in attack. hernandez was injured & berbatov had limited starts. stop posting if you don't understand simple english.