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kulyie: I don't know and I wouldn't know unless you say whatever you want to say however don't be sad.Jesus loves you

kulyie kulyie, how many countries took part in the world cup? if you get this question right i will send 5 bottles of alomo bitters to your house to aid your digestion.

Guykhena: Jigsaw lines wasn't even up to 16,he didn't do his homework and you put the blame on me?
I will call this a fair judgement,tho you found fault in everything I did,,,and you saying chat session? Do you watch Live battles at all? If I start breaking down all the blatant points you made,this thread is gonna be turned upside down(cus I know you live arguments,and you're just gonna go on and on.).....
It seems anything you do,you take up issues with it,but am not gonna go on that lane with you.
Anyway Thanks for your verds tho,am gonna work it..
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no need to get salty about my verdict - 90% of the cats here will still give you the W cos they are all faggöts anyways. however, if you are a man of dignity & decorum, you should concede defeat & hope for a rematch!

in live battles, it depends on what was agreed. if the ish is unlimited then all kinda bullshit comes along. however, this was a time-limit battle. drop 20 lines & that's it. you went on a SSCE composition & it bored the fück outta me.

i dunno you from adam & i have got nothing against you. i don't judge personalities, i only judge the bars i see. you built an expensive mansion on a poorly-laid foundation. if your bars can't be easily comprehended by the audience, what's the essence of spitting it?

opener - jigsaw
rhymes - jigsaw
metaphor - TIE
punchlines - guykhena
personals - guykhena
flow - jigsaw
wordplay - guykhena
closer - jigsaw

MVGT - jigsaw

opener
no single punch was delivered by guykhena - he was even pampering his opponent. jigsaw's first sentence was a direct punch talking about guykhena's impotency. anyone that said opener was a tie is a complete idïot that should never judge here again.

rhymes
jigsaw took this by a countrymile. he kept it short, simple & concise. guykhena stretched his rhymes beyond the elastic limit & he hardly rhymed perfectly in any of the verse.

metaphor
none of them came through here. i guess they both agreed not to infuse deadly metaphors in their verses so this is almost redundant.

punchlines
guykhena got this but that's because he had more than 70 lines instead of the agreed 32 lines. airmark should have edited guykhena's verses to the same number of lines as jigsaw. it's unfair to jigsaw when his adversary has more than double his lines. everyone gets to spit within a time limit in a rap battle, the rule is the rule.

personals
guykhena went apeshït here as well. scooping out information like a deranged paparazzi. he concentrated too much on personals he forgot to rhyme perfectly or arrange his flow intelligently.

flow
jigsaw - not even debatable. his bars were structured. very concise & clear. his line compression skills were excellent here. he made sure his fillers were to the barest minimum.

guykhena rambled on & on like he was writing a thesis. no flow, no structure. irrelevant bullshyte waxed with baloney. this kid needs to learn how to compress his lines. rap verses should be like a telegram message, not a science textbook!

wordplay
guykhena took this - he had some gems dropped even though most were generic. jigsaw had one or two in this category & that wasn't enough to subdue guykhena.

closer
guykhena lost this by default. i don't even know what was meant to be the closer. he included a chat session in a rap verse. trust nigerians to turn everything into a village meeting standard. what the fück was that about? does he think we have all the time to read through his bunkum?



fück this - jigsaw won this & it wasn't even close. guykhena cheated by having more lines than the rules stated & he should work on his structure, flow and rhyme schemes.

are these people blind?

jigsawkillah won this convincingly. if it doesn't rhyme, don't spit it. if it over-stretches, it's rubbish. a verse with no rhymes, no flow & no structure is an essay. guykhena should be tied to a stake & beaten to death for this rubbish verse.

i'll be back with my breakdown.....i got a plane to catch

elampiro: The fact remains that Rodriguez worst rating was against Brazil in the Q/final. That was his only test among giants of the tournament. Despite helping himself with a penalty in regulation time, his rating dropped drastically. I wonder if he had met bigger giants in Argentina tough defence, German machine, Holland and Belgium. Rating 6.5.

he was the best player on the pitch that day. he got no protection. there's a reason the whole brazilian team went to him after the game to pay their respect. the referee just gave brazil the free pass to kick lumps out of him.

elampiro: * Aggregate his 3 matches in group stage then compared with the aggregate of knockout and see the difference. All big players ratings dropped as the tournament progressed. Robben scored 6.6 against Argentina. Even RVP, etc were dropping and dropping. These players started at from around 9.0 to 10. Look at where they ended after a brutal end.

why should i aggregate his ratings? each match should be analysed in it's own merits. aggre-what?

* Rodriquez even used penalty to boost his ratings. Roben for instance could have reached 8.51 to 8.53 had he taken those penalties he won.

I am not in the mood. I am busy.

used penalties to boost his ratings & messi didn't? rodriguez scored 6 goals from the hole - how many penalties did he score in that 6 goals? he doesn't earn £300k/week but he played like a £800k/week striker.

EnlightenedSoul: -_-

I was born in Europe and I visited Sweden for an entire summer, and although I had a gr8 time there, I wouldn't want to live there or anywhere else in Europe. America being a shyt country is your opinion, and you're free to it

who wants to stay in any scandinavian country? the weather is shyte & the language barrier is depressing. the only merits there are their women & the food. i can understand your reasons......however, it's still better than staying in the US.

Hell no @ removing the right to bear arms. That would be a disaster! We should address the real issues at hand. There was a British nut by the name of Piers Morgan that dedicated most of his CNN segment to advocating gun control. They say his rants and unrealistic debating actually increased gun sales here O_o lol

piers morgan is a prïck!
no one even likes him here. when americans were signing a petition to have him deported, brits also signed a petition to prevent him from coming back to the UK. he's not exactly the right guy to be talking about gun control. it was because of piers morgan's forefathers that americans saw the gun as a symbol of freedom in the first place.

Rewarding promiscuity? How so?

what happens to babymamas in your country?

Some people are of the opinion that there's a conspiracy to keep the Black Americans down, but I honestly think it's high time people took responsibility. "Whose locking them up? Foreign countries? "...so they're being locked up because they're Black? I don't think so.

yes - they are being locked up because they are blacks. blacks make up only about 13% of the entire population in the US & yet they are about 70% of the prison population. it's so disproportionate. what white boys get slapped in the wrist for, black boys get prison terms for it.

http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/U-S-teen-birth-rate-higher-than-Western-Europe-s-2462254.php

Birth control is less expensive and easier for teens to get in many other developed countries than in the United States. And teachers, parents and physicians tend to be more accepting of teenage sexuality and more likely to encourage use of contraception. "We're working the opposite way [in the US]," she added, describing Sweden's comprehensive sex education and easy teen access to condoms and birth control.

Decorum, eh??
We have abstinence programs - which align with your way of thinking - but apparently that hasn't been working...

that's one of the reasons i said US is a swamp of piss. the luxury of teen girls going to the clinic to get contraceptives is nonexistent in america. such services are free in nearly all the countries in europe. taking control of one's destiny during/after sex is part of being responsible.

I don't have a problem with China's success lmao, and I've probably seen more of the world than you have.

Take care.

seen more of which world? maybe in your lucid dreams

elampiro: I didn't have time to start going into small details. I might look at whosacored properly tonight.

of course, whenever you have been discovered you were playing dice with numbers, you always use the excuse of looking at stats partially.

* Rooney still remains one of the number 10 with highest goals return from the hole and wing. From the number 9 he has a very outstanding record, even in our poorest season.

which hole & wing? 50% of rooney's goals are from set-plays & the hole position is a fraud. rooney cops same number of shots per game like many strikers. he should be scoring like them if he's shooting as many as them.

that's simple logic!

Most important thing is that I have realized Messi is a magician, a genius and a king.

no one will dispute that bit. messi is a brilliant player but he was piss-poor in this tournament.

elampiro: Rodriguez.
1. vs Greece 8.5
2. vs Iv ory Coast 8.2
3. vs Japan 9.4
4. vs Uruguay 8.4
5. vs Brazil 7.6
How come his worst rating was in the quater final? What if he had played against Belgium or Holland or Germany or Argentina? He sure would have fallen below 8 point.

his rating against uruguay was better than greece & ivory coast. you told us the performance of all the star players decreased as the tournament went on. your statistics have showed you up as a liar.

uruguay are better than belgium & argentina. holland & germany don't play like stoke - like brazil did against columbia. scolari became tony pulis & told his players to kick lumps out of rodriguez. i was happy columbia went down & dragged neymar(brazil's hope) with them.

elampiro: Ukwu!!!

What is the lie here? Is Messi not the best in accordance to the rating?

Go to the team XI chart, it's 8.5, 8.4, 8.4 respectively. it was rounded up.

Rodriguez surely would have dropped further. All the best players kept dropping as the game progressed. From 9+ they started coming down to 8.7 ......

Anyway,
World cup 2014 official best player messi.
Whoscored best player Messi.

why should i go to the best XI chart when they have approximated the points into 1 decimal place.

you should go to the comprehensive list and see how a number-10 that started only 4 games scored 6 goals. if it was rooney, we would be hearing excuses that someone in the hole cannot score goals.

chamotex: I'm a virgin bro.
Give me one hot lass from your ends to validate this.

that's risky!
you won't know where to put it. you might go & put it in her navel & put a hole there.

bro, what are your expectations this season? are you subscribing for MUTV this season? i was told they are going HD this summer & that looks a bit appetising.

chamotex: LVG is coming home...let the revolution begin

I'm back!!!

chamotex, that chic got pregnant & she's asked me to tell you to come back & take responsibility for your actions.

elampiro: Abeg abeg abeg.

I Just looked at whoscored/opta best 11.

Messi 8.5
Robben 8.4
Rodriquez 8.4

All the players rating dropped significantly at every sage of the tournament. The last time I checked was after the quarter finals. (Or was it 2nd round?). This means Rodriguez rating should have fallen further as the tournament went into Semis, if he were still around.

Now, what a coincidence? This is a confirmation. Only Robben can lay claim 'cos he played the difficult matches. When the super stars and biggest teams met.

stop lying....
whoscored has it as....

messi - 8.52
james - 8.40
robben - 8.37

rodriguez had scored in every game even against brazil. there's 100% guarantee he would have scored in the semis & the final had his team gone all the way.

others tailed off points wise cos they stopped scoring all of a sudden. rodriguez was by far the best player in the tournament. every pundit at the world cup agreed with that & even diego has come out to say messi's golden ball was a fraud!

ElGuapo: So how should a good player be judged?
Making endless runs into space or gazillions of dribbles with silly end products?
Messi was uber-nonsense throughout the knockout stage. Andre Schurrle was way better than him in the latter stages of the mundial E0D.

elampawa has been smoking weed again. this is what messi's countryman said about the dubious award....

maradona:
"Messi? I would give him heaven if possible,
But it's not right when someone wins something that he shouldn't have won just because of some marketing plan."

dayokanu: Without Bias

Hames Rodriguez
Robben
Mascherano
Neuer
Muller
Messi

this is what i would have written too. messi had a very ordinary tournament especially in the knock out games.

dayokanu: Dont be ridiculous

Kompany bombed forward lost the ball, Messi took ti passed to Di maria, who attempted to pass to Zabalata but was deflected by Vertoghen to Higuain who blasted it

So how would anyone attribute this goal to Messi given the sequence of play?

You might as well ask who passed the ball at kickoff

dayo, without bias & sentiments - list your top 5 players in this tournament.

Dhelake: Manuel Neuer made more passes(244) than Messi (242)

for real?
neuer made more passes than messi? FIFA are a disgrace!

Nairalandinfo: In today's match i.e. if u watched it, u would see that Muller, Ozil, Klose, Kroos, etc were non-existent BUT the other guys stepped up like Schurrler & the likes esp oin the attacking dept.....now look @ Messi who in his little way tried but his 3 front men (Aguero, Higuan, Palacio) were marked absent in attendance.
As 4 Maradona, i insist his compatriots stepped up when he couldn't do much @ the final against West-Germany...that is what 'm talking about

his compatriots did what? maradona scored 5 goals & 5 assists in that world cup. that's 10 goals out of 14 world cup goals his country scored in that tournament

#dominance.

now let's get to the technical bits.....
maradona attempted or created more than half of argentina's shots, embarked on 90 dribbles (three times more than any other player in the tournament) and he was fouled 53 times winning his team twice as many free kicks as any player.

#influence.


there will never be another player like diego ever again.

dayokanu: I dont care about the golden ball since Germans won the bigger prize

but giving Messi that award is laughable

4 goals against Bosnia , Nigeria and the great Iran. None in the knockout stage

Messi sef go know inside him that it was a useless award

messi has FIFA by the balls. it's the most laughable award ever. one could argue lahm, hummels, neuer & muller had a better tournament than messi.

i am very very happy he didn't win the world cup cos then his hype would have gone through the roof. he was very flaccid in the games that matter. diego scored 2 goals against england in q/finals, 2 against belgium in the semis. enough assists in the final.

pickabeau1: for someone who called colombia underdogs

They were seeded no 4 inthe world at the draws...

funny woman


anyway.. as i said before d final... i wished the argies won.. but knew it was going to europe

hahahaha - pickabeau, give up!

argentina were rated 3rd in october. they were given bosnia(16th), nigeria(33rd) & iran(49th)

columbia were 4th in october & they were given greece(15th), ivory coast(17th) and japan(44th)

who had it easier?

afrodoc: Maradona did not have an excellent supporting cast. The team had some decent players but that was all

Burruchaga and Valdano combined to score 20 goals for Argentina in their whole careers! They were good team players but not exactly world class.
Only Ruggieri in that squad could be argued to be world class apart from the unused Passarella

leave them - let them be analysing chaff. maradona isn't great cos he won a world cup. hundreds of other players have won it.....however, he won that world cup singlehandedly. had riquelme pushed argentina to the final in 2006 as well, he would have been rated as high as maradona cos he also bossed every game he played that year.


goal of the tournament - not even messi would attempt this.

https://www.soccerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/j5.gif

pickabeau1: The teams were seeded using oct 2013 data

Nigeria are the african champions...

Ivorians flopped

what has this gotta do with the discussion? argentina didn't play nigeria when the teams were seeded. columbia didn't play ivory coast when the teams were seeded.

the ranking in october 2013 must have been commensurate with the strength of the teams then. the ranking in june 2014 when the games were played must have been commensurate with the strength of the teams as well.

argentina had it way easier than columbia at the group stage.

chic2pimp: Still don't know how those FIFA waste men arrived at that baffling conclusion to be frank.

why are you surprised? ask yourself how he won ballon d'or in 2010 when he was shyte for club & country. sneijder won the treble & scored 5 goals at the world cup, pushing holland to the final & he wasn't even considered.

this is what oscar tabarez(uruguay coach) said concerning james rodriguez.

"For me, special talents are those who do things that are completely out of the ordinary. Diego Maradona, Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez, James Rodriguez - they do things because they have certain gifts that make them special. I believe he's the best player at the World Cup and I don't think I'm exaggerating; he's a young player. We tried to limit his influence, but he kept going and made his presence felt. Hopefully he'll continue to progress, because he's very young. Football needs players with these characteristics."

end of discussion......

pickabeau1: Use the rankings when the teams were seeded.

argentina(5th) played nigeria(44th), iran(43rd) and bosnia(21st)

columbia(8th) played greece(12th), ivory coast(23rd) and japan(46th)

who had it easier between columbia & argentina in your own view?

elampiro: Argentina Coach Diego Maradona: Lionel Messi Is Better Than I Was At World Cup '86
May 24, 2010 04:15:00


Maradona was the outstanding player of the tournament 24 years ago and has now stated that he has told Messi to follow in his footsteps by leading Argentina to glory in South Africa.

"Messi is better than me at World Cup '86. He's the best player in the world and better by far compared to others. In 86, in Mexico, I did it with the ball, I grew up and my team-mates followed. Now I have explained the same to Leo to do it in South Africa and he has understood," Maradona is quoted as saying by Sport before adding that he wants everything to go through Messi at the finals next month.

Related
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1863/world-cup-2010/2010/05/24/1939576/argentina-coach-diego-maradona-lionel-messi-is-better-than-i-was-

...........
Also reported by ESPN. However, Maradona in 2013 said he is the best from Argentina.

Problem with talking too much.

nonsense!
he was just saying this to pump messi up. how many goals & assists did messi cop in comparison to maradona in 86? maradona won it, messi didn't. maybe maradona just finished smoking crack when he gave that interview.

RuuDie: Hold on... Maradona and 11 zombies!?

Burruchaga, Pasarella, Pumpido, Tapia, Valdano, Ruggeri, Batista...

Shuo. Una take am easy nah!

i repeat, it was maradona & 10 zombies. every goal argentina scored in that world cup went through him. he was assisting goals & scoring them in equal weight. the clips dey youtube - his influence was just too outrageous, that's why every pundit agrees he single-handedly won that world cup. it's rare to see a team game won singlehandedly by a player.

maradona did it in 86
garrincha did it in 62.

pickabeau1: Go and check the rankings dude..

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/

Whats scary against Ivory Coast, Greece and Japan


Colombia wilted when it mattered

stop embarrassing yourself - did you even see the rankings you posted? compare the rankings of the teams argentina played to columbia & tell us who had the easier fixtures.

you have one more chance to redeem yourself before i undrëss you in public.

chic2pimp: Why won't He Win 4 MOTM awards when it's the same so called "Technical Team" doing the judging?
He wasnt even the best Argentine at the mundial. Mascherano had a better tourney sef

messi won 4MOTM but he played 7 games. james won 3 MOTM in just 5 games. james won the golden boot in spite of playing only 5 games. he's by far the best player in the tournament, without a shadow of doubt!

elampiro: Is there a debate as to who is greater? I mean here.

But Maradona has not helped matters. Someone told me Maradona has accepted Messi is better than him.

and i am sure that someone is maradona's wife or daughter who happens to be your neighbour in edo state.

Nairalandinfo: This is the BIGGEST LIE fron the pit of hell....Maradona had one of the best supporting cast & u don't have to bend/lie to make ur point.
The Germans were there 4 the taking infact this was one of easiest match 4 the Argies had the forwards done better.

it was maradona & 10 zombies in 86. only 2 players have single-handedly won a world cup. maradona in 86 & garrincha in 62. use google if you are tied in a knot!

pickabeau1: Im not ...
Frankly its the way it is.. Colombia had an easier group... they were seeded

You are arguing against plainly available facts.

columbia had an easier group & argentina didn't have an easier group? who was the seeded team in our group - was it not argentina? iran + nigeria + bosnia - what's scary about those teams?

abeg - columbia were 100% better than this argentina squad in everything. a stüpid referee only allowed brazil to roll over them with agbero football as he failed to protect columbia.

Nairalandinfo: Yes he is not Maradona but maradona in his time had good supporting cast unlike messi who had to do do everything alone...Aguero all season had been injured but the funny Sabella took him to the tourney. Higuan just didn't turn up for them...i just feel they missed Di maria who possibly would have complimented Messi. As for Palacio, may he have a good nite sleep.

if they had aguero & di maria fit, they wouldn't have won. i only saw his x-factor in the group games against iran & nigeria. maradona had a weaker supporting cast but every decision maradona made was the right one. go & watch 86 & 90 world cup games again.