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Vikin: @coogar, there is another tribe that accept he-goat in exchange for the bride!

The he-goat should also have a very long goatee beard! True story!

Got a friend from there too!

what's the name of this tribe? if i want 5 wives, it means i only need to provide 5 billy-goats? nice!!!'

elampiro: Is it only Vidic and Evra Noistelrooy played along with? What about Stam, Ferdidand, Silvestre, Heinze, Phil and Garry Neville? Put all the argument together and stop picking bits.

stam? he had a total of 1 league appearance and 2 appearances in the whole season on ruud's debut. do you actually follow man utd?? silvestre? phil neville? who are those? at their best, they are not better than buttner.

ruud won the league in his 2nd season at united(02/03), reached the semis of the champions league on his debut season. lost on goals difference to leverkusen.

rio got suspended in 2004. united were 5 points ahead of the arsenal invincibles as at then. fergie refused to buy a replacement n united's season went to the dogs from then on.

every team needs a good keeper to win trophies - roy caroll and tim howard were too short of quality to carry us. howard's mistake got mourinho's porto the win against us in 03/04. we got the FA cup, ruud scored in the final!

ruud was injured for most parts in 04/05 to do anything and the team had gone worse by then. ageing players, more mediocre signings and it was a goalie mistake that cost us against milan as we lost at old trafford.

hatrick against liverpool is weak opposition? this kind of excuse makes me laugh. there are only 5 top teams in england including united, logic dictates berbatov would score more goals against the other 15 teams than the top 4 sides.

rooney is just media hype......are people saying rooney doesn't score a higher percentage of his goals against bottom sides? this is a straw man argument at best! remove rooney's cheap penalties from his stats and he's not even close to dimitar!

elampiro: I just have to react to this
I may have missed up a few things between 2007-2008, that doesn't mean I dont know what I am saying about the team. If you put Vidic and Ferdiand missed matches together will make you undestand that someone who was less experience did the cover that period. I am not chanced to go into details.

your biggest weakness is you don't know when to give up after being caught out. if rio made 33 league appearances out of 38, how much cover did his deputy provide? can't you see the folly in your argument?

I knew in thos two season, Pique ands Oshea made covers and Piquue was nervous. Perhaps it was Oshea and Brown that gave the cover in 2006/7 while Pique, the following year. My point remains that there has never been a time we didn't have injuries, aged players and inexperience players.

if you actually followed united that season, you won't mix anything up. the point of having injuries, aged players or inexperienced player is an academic point - it is what replaces the first choice players that matters. in 2007/8, when scholes/carrick weren't up for it, anderson and hargreaves would play(no difference in quality). nani as a backup player had the highest number of assists that season for man utd(our quality was that great) there was no difference between the quality of the starting team and the players on the bench..... unlike 2004/5, 2005/6.

Remmeber, Nisterooy played with Stam, Garry and Phil Neville, Evra, Ferdinand, Brown, Oshea, Heinze , Silvester and Vidic.

and nistelrooy won all the available trophies in england but the champions league. how many games did ruud play with evra/vidic? how good were evra/vidic in 2006? didnt evra cost us the manchester derby and vidic getring rapëd by crouch at anfield when liverpool knocked united out of the fa cup?

I have watched over 95% of United matches since 2003. I have watched over 70 % since 1998. The earlier years were abit difficult because access to DSTV was hard. I have been near 100% live on our matches since 2005. Any one I missed I re-watch it.

Just had to correct that impression before I go. I will be back tonight.

you might have to do a memory check again. you must have watched leeds united, sheffield united or newcastle united! i am 100% sure you didn't watch man utd. evra had only 7 starts, vidic had 9 and yet ruud is meant to have benefitted from this to win the league?

united were already out of the champions league by the time vidic/evra arrived in january but elampiro still expected ruud to win the champions league with vidic/rio? bro, i can write everything you know about man utd on a grain of rice!

what a story!
the pictures can tell the nakëd eye could not? only in nigeria would such happen. this thread should be moved to the joke section or the religion section - let the atheists have something to cheer - it's been a bad year for those losers!

elampiro: I could not even read this piece by piece argument. May be if I have time at night I will read. But I have seen some attck on my person instead of attacking the issue. When it gets to that stage, you know someone is dazed already.

Anyway, I cannot be bullied by anyone. At same time, anyone reading with an open mind will know the truth of the facts I have presented. Even in hundreds years time, records don't change. No one can change any of Rooney's achievements in United. Even as fans are writing bitterly or hating about his request to go, one thing is common among reprts, this man is great. I hail king Rooney.

I am back to my work till night.

how would you read it when your lies have been exposed? get your facts right before you post comments here instead of telling us van der sar missed a lot of games because of a broken shoulder.....

even fergie knows berbatov is the better talent - he was forced to concede running around like headless chickens do not cut the mustard. fergie also told the media dimitar was never a flop but he didnt suit the kind of tempo we wanted.

elampiro: @Coogar, daft comments? Well not in my culture to resort to such, so I will ignore.
In this argument, I have given enough facts, any honest mind should know the truth.

you have told lies all through it......van der sar was out for many matches? kusczack kept the goal for many matches? you even saw piqué in our team in 06/07?

Thank God you agreed that they were not bought same time. And it is also true that Nani, Anderson, Carrick and Hargreaves were not better than Kean, Scholes, GIggs, Flectcher and co who were there before. Moreover, the cost of transfer had risen significantly in 2007/8, so buying 4 players at that amount then was not so much a big deal.

keane had aged considerably after 2004. fletcher was rubbish until 2008. giggs/scholes were not exactly pulling down the trees either - just living on past glory. the players we bought that season got us the champions league......little wonder hargreaves, nani and anderson were called upon in moscow when push came to shove and they did not disappoint!

elampiro: So now suddenly beacuse argument is on, the current United team now has a great defence. The defence you guys criticized when the De Gea argument came up. Now we have a midfield. The midfield we have all said has not been the same since Hargreave's left. Ruud did not play with inferior players, they didn't just fly. Is Cleverly, Jones, Smalling, aging Ferdinand, Scholes and Giggs great players? What about inconsistent Anderson, Young, Tosic, Obertan, etc.

be at your sharpest wit when debating....
the comparison was the team with ruud and the team post-ruud. ruud left in 2006. rio/vidic went on to strike a partnership that even united critics were forced to admit is the best in the history of the premier league. they both made the PFA team in 2007, 2008 and 2009.

the comparison is not with the current squad. the comparison is the strength in depth of 01/02 - 05/06 vs 06/07 - 12/13 did rooney not play with the team that kept the longest run of clean sheets in the premier league? did rooney not play with the squad that kept the longest unbeaten run in europe? did rooney not play alongside a ballon d'or winner? what's the comparison?

In 2006/2007 Van Der Sar broke his shoulder and was out for a long time. Vidic and Ferdinard missed lots of crucial matches to injuries. Brown and Pique went into the middle in some difficult situations and Pique was very nervous. Eagles played a few matches. Thomas Cukzaks kept quite a number of matches, Giggs and Scholes had aged more, yet they played a prominent role. It is not better now. We had a great team in 2008, that I can agree beacuse Agreaves was fit, but his games were managed in alignment to his ailing knee's treatment.

you are a big liar......
van der sar made 32 league appearances in 06/07, more than de gea managed this season. he made a total 45 appearances that season. that's not enough? rio made 33 league appearances, vidic made 25. we had no piqué in the squad that season - another evidence that you didn't watch united as at 2007.

brown made 17 league appearances mostly against mid-table teams. we had oshea, silvestre, etc as bench players. chris eagles made a total of 2 appearances all season as a starter against chelsea at the bridge after the league was won and as a substitute against everton when he scored the 4th goal. kusczack kept the goal only 6 times in the league that season - how did that weaken us? you need facts to argue in this terrain not hearsays!

Rooney score penalties, are they not part of the goals, I can guess he won most of them. RVP, Lampard, Messi and Ronaldo also score penalties. Sometimes the job is not so easy.

logic says a striker that takes penalties is more likely to score more goals. taking a free shot on target without a marker can't be difficult for a professional player. a good percentage of rooney's goals came from the penalties he plays. berbatov is miles better than rooney at everything!

4-4-2, 4-3-3, etc is just in name. Everyone knew the striker that was to stay in the opponents area permanently and the one to join the defence while defending......

if that's the point then united played a strikerless formation in most games in 2007/8. the front 3 roamed throughout. rooney, ronaldo, tevez had no fixed positions for united. rooney did no tracking back, we had hargo, scholes, anderson, carrick, fletcher, oshea, etc to keep things steady in the midfield.

elampiro: I started following United as far back as 1995/6.

Carrick came first before other midfielders in subsequent season. Carrick, next season Anderson and Hargreaves. They were not a 60m stuff out together. Thats exaggeration.

who said they were together? i said it was during carrick's era united spent £60m on their midfield. learn to read english very well before making daft comments.

carrick came in £16m, 12 months later, united purchased nani, hargreaves and anderson(£50m outlay). within 12 months, united spent about £66m on their midfield - how can you compare that to what was available pre-2007?

this was fergie hailing the squad in 2007.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7089910.stm

six months later in 2008, he repeated the same phrase....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299638/Is-this-Fergusons-best-Man-United-squad.html

elampiro, whoever brought you to this forum must be running a circus cos you are surely a clown. in 2003/4, rio was suspended for 8 months, brown was mediocre and he was never fit to start games. nicky butt wasn't even better than gibson.

in 2005/6, scholes went blind, keane left, evra and vidic didn't join till january and they were even wet behind the ears in the game they featured in that season. our team lacked depth. ruud played with inferior players thorough out - there were just too many passengers in the team.

berbatov scored 21 league goals from open play - when rooney scored 27 league goals, 9 of them were from penalties. are you sure you understand the meaning of open play? in 2006/7 - united still stuck to 4-4-2. in 2007/8, it was 4-3-3/4-4-2. most games had rooney n tevez in partnership as a strike force.

StarBoard: He just showed it.
That squad was DIRE.
I remember the Champions League campaign of 2006 where we won only ONE game at home.
You forgot Richardson Keiran too.

very useless squad.....you can't watch us then. if we had the young ruud of 2001-2005 in 2007-11, we would have won the champions league more times than we did. for fücks' sake, we had roy caroll in goal! roy caroll?? i was watching the FA cup final shoot out versus arsenal in 2005 the other day. you should see caroll's attempt at trying to save penalties - my 120 year old granny would have done better.

elampiro was not a united fan as at then....
he only started following united after 2010. quinton fortune, liam miller, phil bardsley, jonathan spector, phil neville, etc all had good number of appearances in 2004/5 season - how can anyone compare that to the carrick era when united spent close to £60m on their midfield?

this elampiro guy must be a joker....

listing ronaldo and fletcher as good players before 2007. ronaldo was worse than nani pre-2007. fletcher was a nobody pre-2007. was fletcher not the player roy keane criticised openly in 2005 that led to keano's departure from MUFC? wazza compared to ruud? van nistelrooy - the only player to have won PFA award in his debut season? ruud is easily the greatest striker in the premier league era. 150 goals in 219 games - #legend.

the team pre-2006 was very inferior. this is why they had the longest drought in the premier league era to win the league title. 2004, 2005 and 2006(3 consecutive seasons without a league title) is poor by united's high standard. the backbone of any team is the defence. van der sar + vidic + ferdinand cannot be compared to caroll + oshea + silvestre.

by 2007, united won it back and went on to win it for three consecutive seasons. our champions league record also improved with the emergence of vidic and evra - in contrast to oshea/ silvestre. you must be in lala-land! if you pay attention to details, even fergie said the 2006-2009 team was his best team in 24 years.

then on to berbatov - by far the most talented forward in the premier league. purchased for £31m to fit into a team where ball possession is below standard. he struggled in his first 2 seasons because he didn't fit into most of our fire brigade midfielders - by the 3rd season(with rooney acting foolish by demanding a transfer request), dimitar rose to the occasion and scored 21 league goals from open play(a feat rooney has never achieved in 8 seasons).

all those knock-out stats are meaningless - you are only trying to prove rooney is better than messi/ronaldo which is not true. the myth that rooney also operate from the deep is a lie. rooney was the arrow head in 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012. he's had 4 seasons as the target man and yet failed to deliver the boot even though he scores about 12 penalties in the league per season. rooney is the product of the british media hype. 50% talent + 120% hype.

elampiro: Golden boot doesn't translate into best player. I guess you know that. Just don't mention Berbatov when you mention Rooney. In terms of goals, Rooney led Drogba on the chart till he fell to injury in the run in. But you have to judge on overall achievement. I thought you were going to mention that Nistelrooy goals won United a champions league trophy. How many finals did he even play?

rooney led drogba because he kept adding cheap penalties to his statistics. overall achievement is about individual achievement not collective achievement. ruud and berba won golden boots, rooney did not. rooney played in champions league final - same as oshea, brown, fabio and nani. there's a prize attached to making a team in the final?

Rooney has EPL best player to show, He has 5 EPL titles, he has 1 UCL medal and even appeared twice in two others. You may score plenty of goals against small/weak opposition as a point man, but when you cannot lift your team when it matters most, you can be tagged 'great'. Nisterooy can never be rated above Rooney in the history of United greats. Berbatov won't even be in the books even if it were to be a 100 pages. Berbatov hardly shone against big oppositions. Berbatov and Saha are in the same boat.

rooney won 5 league titles - he's had 8 seasons to achieve that with a superior team. compare to caroll, oshea, richardson, djemba djemba, bellion, kleberson, etc. until 2007, united had an inferior team by our own high standard so comparing the team ruud played in and the one carlos queiroz helped fergie built is not logical! what was rooney's contribution in the finals we played?

he did a no show in 2008 and 2009 and fergie insisted rooney botched his tactics in 2011. he failed to play to fergie's instructions so how good is rooney? do you watch your football upside down? you want to compare what berba can do with the ball to rooney? you want to compare ruud's 14 champions league goals in one season to rooney's kick n follow? puh-lease!

rooney has 5 EPL tiltes so has darren fletcher - it does not make fletcher better than dembele that has won 0 league titles. EPL title is a collective achievement!

elampiro: Disgrace the brand? You may have a point.

But Rooney is better than Rudd and Berbatov. Rudd was a point man don't forget. Even Rooney was part of his success. We should not forget that Rooney can function in many ways and the only time he was given the opportunity as the point man, he delivered excellently well in the season the quality of support was poor. Berbatov was to be the point man, but he failed and Rooney was called to the rescue and he delivered in what remained his best season.

this is why a lot of people don't take you serious - rooney is better than ruud? on what planet? van nistelrooy that won golden boots in 3 different leagues? van nistelrooy that won 3 UEFA champions league golden boots in 5 seasons @ man utd? you don't even know your football - van nistelrooy is the greatest striker in the premier league era.

In the history of football, Rudd and Berbatov can never come top of Rooney. Rooney is already on the verge of becoming all time highest scorer for United, he is currently 4th behinf Bobby Chalton, Dennis Law and Jack Rowley. Imagine, that is from a deep role. I know in he appears almost in all yearly FIFA top 20. I have never seen Berbatov there.

rooney on the verge of becoming the all-time scorer makes him great? rooney has spent 8 seasons @ man utd. ruud had just 5 seasons and he broke every goalscoring in united. berbatov won a golden boot in his short stay at man utd? rooney has never won it - wazza is just another english hype - the kid has talents but he's too overrated.


in terms of football sense - ruud n berbatov are miles ahead of rooney!

what is kobos and what is the name of this village?

tobechi74: i know a woman who paid her own bride pricw

paid it to who? her own parents?

2buff: It would appear YOU are the one seeing double now my dear chap

you quickly changed it, eh?

women now kick against this tradition.....they confront their parents to drop the ridiculous list as it makes the bride's family look hungry. the issue is very straight forward - if one cannot afford the brideprice, don't get married.

pride price?
2buff - let me have what you are smoking, abeg!

timbros: Why did Demba Ba recieve a medal yesternight even though he isnt registered in the competition with Chelsea?

reaping where torres sowed.......monkey dey work baboon dey chop.

no player is bigger than man utd. we have sold better talents in ruud, ronaldo, berbatov, etc. rooney has disgraced the brand too many times. let's cut our losses - sell him to PSG.

2rifty: nw datz a thought....

you can close the thread now.....

women are their own worst enemies. if women put a united front to stop following other women's partners, there would be no room for infidelity.

this mistress knows the man is married to a fellow woman like her.......if women love themselves why would she agree to date someone else's husband. was she forced to date a married man at knife point? gun point?

Tinkybabe: @Coogar, why are you so anti-female? The mistress should be held responsible while the man goes scot free? Seriously

is the mistress aware the man is married or not? was she forced into it?? women can't be the victims and the culprits at the same time. which is which?

P.S. cheaters = cheats. it's very correct!

2rifty: .....ha! Do u encourage such!?

i like intelligent people..... instead of focusing on the man, how about deriding the home destroyer aka mistress.

2rifty: What do u call a man dat calls hes wife in bed with his mistress by his side....plz any name @ all is allowed...

he's a smart man!

timbros: seconded!

if chelsea are champions of europe then cardiff are the champions of england!

debosky: = -4. i.e she shagged the man/ended the thing when she was 4 months' pregnant. At that point the bump wouldn't have been very prominent.

I posit that based on her posts that there was no shagging after the baby was born.

that's the way i would put it as well..........

nateevs: He must be the first striker in hsitory to get this much criticism after scoring 21 goals in a single season.
He had one opportunity to put his team in a good position in a final, he did and still gets abuse.

na inferior opponent na - but when ba scores against teams like west brom, southampton - that are not even ranked in europe, ibime n dayo suck ba's cöck

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dayokanu: You can go into the IF narratives as much as you like

If my granny had balls she would have been my grandfather

The question is who scored the winning goal?

without torres' goal - there's no winning goal....

dayokanu: Scoring in Europe second rate competition is now what you are having hardons about?

Where the competition were Prague, Basel, Rubin Kazan and Steau Bucharest.

Who scored the winning goal today?

there wouldn't be any need for a winning goal if azpicuepilepsy didn't handle the ball in the box. torres got the opening goal and chelsea were coasting......

nateevs: Demba Ba got a medal. How's that? He's not even registered.

reaping where torres sowed and obese charlatans like ibime would still berate torres' strength..... did you see how torres räped luisao(one of the toughest defenders in europe)? the goalie fouled torres but nando refused to fall down showing an amazing upper body strength before tucking in the goal!

debosky: Rafa has won NOTHING for Chelski!!

In the end I was proven right. Rafa got Torres firing - in the Europa League.

the fools will say torres' goal was inconsequential or the opponents were inferior. ibime and dayo are sheep, bunch of ruminant animals!

another final, another torres goal - boy is a legend.

debosky: 4 assists by Cazorla. . . .I hope Ibime is watching.
Take that for consistency and quality in his debut EPL season.

there's fire on the mountain......

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next fixtures
chelsea vs everton
newcastle vs arsenal

if the results go chelsea 0-0 everton and arsenal beat newcastle 2-1 then arsenal would finish the same points as chelsea with the same goals scored and the same goals difference.

should this happen, there will be a play off between arsenal and chelsea on a neutral ground(application C14) to determine who finishes 3rd and go straight to the group stage of the champions league.

i want this shyte to happen...