[size=13pt]You do not understand that the body of Christ is not defined by political organisations made by men. There is an organisation made by men, CAN. When did that become the true representation of what the gospel is. They can choose to be a true representation, and they can choose not to be. It has nothing to do with what the right thing is (which doesn't change).
Also, I think you also do not understand that men on earth create hierarchies that God may not necessarily pay any attention to. From the message of the bible, which the holy Spirit will teach you, men on earth have never been qualified to set the standard. Any act or attempt by any pastors or organisation leaders to reset it is just an attempt in folly no matter who he thinks he has become through the hierarchy of men. Only the bible and acts and words of Jesus do.
Now I tell you that I have been taught that when a thing is bad, you say it is bad. I hope you believe now. I did not read the links you sent me or watch the video because I think there is no need because my positing is that... If a CAN leader did something that is not right there, it does not automatically become right.
While you point me to a link where CAN warns El-Rufai over an ill-conceived joke, I can point everyone to multiple media houses independently reporting the husband of the victim's, saying that whether the culprits of the murder are caught or not, they should be forgiven
anonimi: Thanks. How do you think that conflict is best resolved given what is at stake?
That is a personal choice. Everyone must decide for themselves when to speak and when to keep quiet and reap the consequential results of their choices.
Liar liar xtians and lying to promote their religion are
[size=13pt]I was taught that when something is bad, you say it is bad. You don't even know that it is not guns or threatening to kill people, or lying that promotes the Gospel. The vehicle for the propagation of the gospel is "love". Love, no matter what. That is why even the husband of the victim knows (even if it is so painful) that he must forgive. God has commanded us to forgive.
It takes more courage to choose to forgive than it takes to choose to revenge. Revenge is instinctive/impulsive. Even animals want to revenge. But it takes real personal power to choose to forgive a foolish act such as that. Perhaps, the act is so foolish that it needs to be forgiven
By the way, you are painting yourself in bad light by this statement. I wonder what part of all this is a lie. I wonder if it is the woman that killed herself.
Shouting doesn't make your senseless post any nearer to bearing any semblance with coherence and commonsense. No 1 lie the Egyptian pilot didn't crash his plane deliberately but a fire onboard led to the crash unless you get your false news from CAN I suggest you listen carefully next time to the news.
No 2 lie you. told cultist kill with axe, knives, guns and just about any weapon they can lay their hands on. When knives became the exclusive preserve of muslims remains a sick lie that only a paid hater of Muslim will say.
No 3 motive another lie cultist can kill just about anyone for whatever reason like u dear you and all xtian on this thread to say to the face of a cult member he will perish and die a horrible death because of his cultism... and let's see how long you live.
The truth is the op or the media theory could be true but until the police give an insight we can't just say.
The only close-to-sensible thing you said was your last statement but even that is not very wise as we have seen our police give false statements to the public in the past. Corroborated stories from multiple independent journalists have become increasingly more credible than official public statements from public officers. That is why they are journalists. There is an investigative part to their work. And that is their other function in the society.
As for cultists killing anyone for whatever reason, I went to a Nigerian university myself and did a 5-year course. We used to preach to the cultists early in the morning the same way. Before I arrived that school, it was done. Now that I have left, it is still being done. Not even one preaching student was harmed on account of preaching. The effect is that they tend to give us our way and subtly respect us because in the end, we tell them the truth and help them if they have troubles. They run secretly to us because they learnt we were willing to help
Now as for killing with knives, how many glorified and broadcast Islamic executions were done with guns? As long as it was only a single individual, or just a handful, it was with knives.
In the Islamic ISIS executions that involved knives, how many were done by stabbing? As long as it was an Islamic fundamentalist execution and done with a knife, it was done by throat slitting.
anonimi: Don't you think that is the more reason why those who know better should endeavour to make the sacrifice of time, effort and energy needed to quickly and promptly these erroneous utterances so that our society does not go to rot and affect those who claim to have superior knowledge Otherwise who will correct the erroneous utterances?
Yea. That is the conflict. If you don't speak, they will think they have actually said something seen to be wise. If you speak, it will seem what they have said actually deserves a response.
Very funny but I hope you know GEJ is not an Igbo man. He even has an Ijaw accent rather than an igbo one Very funny post indeed.
If an Igbo man (speaking Igbo, and with an Igbo name) became president do you think the rest of us would have been able to hear anything? They would rob it in as if it is something that should even be robbed in in the first place.
They would say "In everything na we come first. We dey rule them for their country. The Igbo man is always wiser" I never heard any silly statement like that from any Ijaw man. I know if an Efik or Ibio (in Akwa Ibom and Cross Rivers) was president, you will never hear that. I know if a Tiv or Kanuri or Gboko person became president you will never hear that.
But if an Igbo man becomes president, everyone expects the worst from them and not unexpectedly too.
hakimmiyya: Your reasoning is questionable. I expected you to comment on the media bias issue he raised.The truth is the media as became tools in the hands of people to cause societal divide.Often time most of what we read,see,and hear on media is either they're false or deliberate depleted information to cause damage. This country is full of junk journalism practice by quack and lazy journalists who would sit in their comfort zone to write gibberish especially in this era of social media. The truth will always catch up with falsehood whether we like it or not. Thumb up for you OP.
[size=13pt]Is there any known relationship between any kind of quality and your expectations?[/size]
dustmalik: The hypocrisy amongst Christians is absurd. The day this news went viral, I told people that, since no one witnessed the killing, no evidence of any sorts, then people shouldn't be in a hurry to put the blame on Muslims. But I was insulted, called all sorts of names.
[size=13pt]There is no proof what this man is saying here is true.
Also, cultists do not go after people like that. Female preachers preaching in the morning. Not at all. Cultists go after rival gangs or someone within their social circle of interactions. The only time they go after simple women/civilians is when they intend to rob or rape or kidnap.
Of course if there are cults in the area, it is imaginable that cult members were the ones who did this, but it is not imaginable how the motive could have been cult-related.
She is not a young woman that they will be interested in sexually assaulting.
A woman preaching in the morning clearly has no money or possession enticing enough to be considered worthy of a robbery operation.
It is imaginable she must have been doing this for some time. That cannot be the first time she was going out for a morning call.
For her to be found killed like that on one of these morning preaching occasions only suggests that her preaching had been infuriating someone who had come to the point where he decided he must end it.
The fact she was killed with a knife (and not a gun) the preferred killing instrument of muslims around the world who kill for religious purposes, speaks volumes. Cultists in cult-related violence prefer the use of guns (against rivals or in threatening civilians).
The fact that her throat was slit (in typical extremist "execution" syle) also speaks volumes of the reason for the murder. In cult-related violence where knives are used, stabbing is usually the intent.
It feels a little insulting that whoever wrote this would put up this write-up without doing a sufficient examination of the intellectual strength of his submission. [/size]
PenSniper: Yoruba, yoruba and yoruba. How many from your own timid region have been speaking for a change ? Chiefs Ayo Adebanjo and Reuben Fasoranti never let up on the inevitability of restructuring. Recently, Yinka Odumakin took a fellow yoruba, Osinbajo to the cleaners in a brilliant article for daring to speak against restructuring. Are all these men not Yorubas again or is it only the Yoruba that is saddled with speaking against injustice ? Rather than treating an issue objectively on its merits or dimerits, it has become an obsession for people with parochial tendencies to bring in tribal colourations.
[size=13pt]There are some things you should just ignore. The only concern is if you ignore utterances born of inferior intellect, there is the risk of such utterances attracting endorsements from the public as time goes on. We all know that the things the public ends up believing do not always make sense.[/size]
eleojo23: I am conducting a second poll down here. It is not good to use only one poll. If you don't trust the OP and you think that she will rig the results, I am giving you an alternative.
Click 'Like' to vote against Buhari and 'Share' to vote for him.
[size=13pt]I thought about that. When there are many shares (against Buhari) vs likes for (him) She can (if she wants to rig/cheat) change the text to...
bighorlus: bro if it were some random nigerian the situation would have been different , but this guy is a weaponised thug he should have known better. i blame him for his misfortunes.
[size=13pt]The question is, do you have control over the acts of your brother, or childhood friend, or classmate?
He is saying that if what the govt is doing is good, then when any of these people mentioned above have problems with the government, may the government treat you the way Tompolo's father is being treated.
He seems to be saying this so that folks will understand the degree of fairness (or otherwise) associated with the govt's actions.
There is a reason why the law makes certain things a crime even if being carried out by the govt in trying to bring others subject to the law.[/size]
Babacele: By BARTHOLOMEW MADUKWE Like Soud Qbeilat, an artist, would say, “When there is no freedom, there is no creativity”.
No doubt, press freedom in Nigeria has become increasingly worrisome as cases of journalists who were murdered remain unresolved and the list continues to grow.
This disturbing development negates the provisions of the Constitution which guarantees press freedom.
Section 39 (1) of the 1999 constitution (as amended) of the Federal Republic of Nigeria provides that: “Every person shall be entitled to freedom of expression, including freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart ideas and information without interference.” According to Subsection 2: “Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (1) of this section, every person shall be entitled to own, establish and operate any medium for the dissemination of information, ideas and opinions.”
However, 13 Nigerian journalists were killed in 2012 alone in active service, making it the highest in the history of the country since independence in 1960. Thus, this year’s World Press Freedom Day celebration provided another opportunity to take stock on the lot of journalists globally, especially as it affects the performance of their duty.
*Harassed journalist The event which took place at the United Nation Information Center, in Ikoyi, Lagos, attracted participants from the human right community, the media and the police, among others. Participants took turns to express their views on the need to ensure a safe environment for journalists in Nigeria to practice their profession unhindered.
Secretary General of the United Nations (UN), Mr Ban Ki-Moon, in his message, called on governments, societies and individuals to do their utmost to protect the safety of all journalists.
He noted that the United Nations system has established a Plan of Action on Safety of Journalists and the issue of impunity, adding “the plan aims to raise awareness and to support practical steps to create a free and safe working environment for journalists.
On this World Press Freedom Day, we call on Governments, societies and individuals to do their utmost to protect the safety of all journalists, offline and online.
Everyone has a voice; all must be able to speak freely and in safety.” Ban Ki-Moon noted that over the past decade, more than 600 journalists have been killed and at least 120 in the past year alone. He further pointed out that hundreds of journalists have been detained.
Expressing concern that so many of the perpetrators escape any form of punishment, the UN Secretary General stressed that assault on journalists is an assault on the right of all people to the truth.
He said: “The dangers are not only physical: from cyber-attacks to bullying, the powerful are deploying numerous tools to try to stop the media from shedding light on misrule and misdeeds. Freedom of expression is a fundamental human right, enshrined in Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It is a cornerstone of good governance, sustainable development, and lasting peace and security.
“Yet every day around the world, journalists and media workers are under attack. They face intimidation, threats and violence from governments, corporations, criminals or other forces that wish to silence or censor them.”
The theme of the 2013 World Press Freedom Day, “Safe to Speak: Securing Freedom of Expression in All Media”, highlighted the need for action to upholding the right of journalists to carry out their vital work.
Anti-press violence absolutely negates the freedom of journalists, and killings of reporters continue to haunt the country. Meanwhile, a media advocacy organization known as Committee for the Protection of Journalists (CPJ) in an open letter to the Chairperson of African Union, Mr Nkosazana Zuma, called for the release of all imprisoned journalists in the continent.
CPJ stated: “Nigeria and Somalia are among the worst nations in the world in combating deadly anti-press violence, our 2013 Impunity Index has found. Five journalists have been killed with impunity in Nigeria since 2009. In Somalia, more than twenty murders have gone unsolved over the past decade.
These killings are often politically motivated.” Explaining some major problems the Nigeria police seem to have with the media, Deputy Force PRO, Mr Frank Mba, said an average journalist sees an average policemen as lawless, corrupt, unfriendly, liar, drunk, thief, killer, unsympathetic and incompetent.
He noted that unprofessionalism, blackmail and falsehood kills the Nigerian journalist, adding that lifestyle, dictatorial government, unsafe work environment, level of security consciousness and other environmental and sociological factors also hamper effective journalism.
Mba, who represented the Inspector General of Police, Mr Mohammed Abubakar, at the event further said: “ The legal basis for journalism practice in Nigeria is enshrined in section 39 (1) and (2) of the 1999 constitution; the subsection 1 says: ‘Every person shall be entitled to freedom of expression, including freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart ideas and information without interference.’ “It is this word ‘every person’ that actually makes it possible to sit in the confine of your home and begin to impart information, begin to receive information and begin to spread information. So that word ‘every person’ is very key, it is a huge advantage to the business of journalism. But it is also one of the things that have become like an albatross on the core media people. “We find out that consistently associations like the Guild of Editors, the Nigerian Union of Journalists, NUJ and others are not able to embody everyone on the line of their business because the trade is such a liberal one. Unlike policing for instance, there is so much restriction on who can actually call himself a police officer.
“And that is why it is difficult to say that this man is a fake journalist. The only way you can say he is a fake journalist is if he says that he works with a particular media organization and he is not working there, you can then accuse him of impersonation. Otherwise there are a lot of people out there that are actually practicing journalism and it is so difficult holding them down to any media organization.
“Subsection 2 also goes on to say that: ‘Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (1) of this section, every person shall be entitled to own, establish and operate any medium for the dissemination of information, ideas and opinions.’
“ Journalism is a practice that is so encompassing. Unlike a farmer, for example, who would not have anywhere to operate outside his farm, journalists operate practically from everywhere” Mba added. However, President of Nigerian Guild of Editors, Mr Femi Adeshina, asserted that the security agencies believe that the media contribute to the negative image most members of the public have about them, noting that it characterizes the relationship of the media and the law enforcement agencies. Adeshina pointed out that in order to move forward the police and the media need to engage one another by setting up a partnership that must be cultivated, adding that there must be a new thinking with mutual respect between the two parties.
“I call on journalists to be ethical and also call on the law enforcement agencies to be ethical too. The mindset of the Nigerian media has to change from being adversary to law enforcement agencies. The media has a history of crusade in Nigeria” he said.
Campaigns Director of Media Rights Agenda, Mr Tive Denedo, who also spoke at the occasion lamented that the specter of violence over journalism has changed the dynamics of the practice, noting that truth, fairness, objectivity and a host of other values of the profession have become casualties. He said: “Deaths, threat to lives and, beatings have become recurring decimals in journalism while fear is not too far away anymore form the news room. There is nothing in the history of journalism that can demand more of our collective efforts than providing a safe and secured environment for the practice of journalism. Our past experiences insist on it, our present realities demand it and our future requires it.
“When men and women who are not party to conflicts are gruesomely murdered for reporting the events and affairs of people, it only stands to reason that truth is more than endangered. The specter of the danger against journalists and journalism has even been raised much higher to include those sharing information on-line. “Extending the boundaries of intimidation and harassment to include online reports is stretching it so that a lot of the liberties that are available online would also be trampled upon. The statistics all over the world for the murder of journalists in 2012 and broken down showed that sixty three percent of journalists covering politics were murdered, while fifty one percent covering war were murdered. In countries where politics is practiced as war, the death figures hardly come as a surprise. The other beats showing percentages of journalists murdered include: 9% of those covering Business, 13% of those covering Corruption, 16% of those covering Crime,14% of those covering Culture, 40% of those covering Human Rights, and 3% of those covering Sports.
“With the war within Syria, the country has the highest number of journalists killed in 2012, 22 journalists were killed there. Nigeria was among the countries listed for the death of journalists with Channels reporter, Enenche Akogwu who was shot on January 20, 2012 in Kano. But there has been more before that and hopefully there will not be any more after the death of Enenche.
The wasteful death of one of us diminishes the value of our lives, impairs the sanctity and the dignity of the human race.” VANGUARD.
[size=13pt]Officials involved with that agricultural loan were shedding tears (it was reported in the news) saying how they signed for huge amounts in millions but were given far less. When they asked why, they were told that was what was approved for them.
The question I asked myself when I saw that was how can grown ups do that?
We know that is what happens in Nigeria but if it was their child or nephew, niece or neighbour's child that did that,they would say "How can you be so foolish? How can you sign for something you did not collect?"
I saw bank staff trying to talk down a young girl in the bank because she was fighting for her rights. They said she was rude. I reminded them of those grown ups crying in public about signing for loans amounts that they did not receive suggesting that they want the young girl to subscribe to the same kind of silliness that the crying adults had put themselves into.
A young person (say 18 yrs of age) is speaking for himself or herself in a bank and it offends you and you say he/she is rude. That is how those adults who signed for 50 million even though they were clearly being given maybe 20 million got moulded into the adults that would do such a self-destructive thing.
1). 18 year old girl in the bank => Nobody is there to speak for you. You must stand up for yourself
2). Adults who signed against themselves => If the law is followed strictly, do they think it is Amaechi that will go to jail for their choice to not stand up for themselves?[/size]
9icest: After all their son lost and they claim to be full supporters of iPods. I mean these same chest beaters are total cowards. They did the same when Turai dragged GEJ by the balls and made his life a complete hell. It was the same SW they love to hate that got GEJs back. All the SE coward leaders were quiet and when suddenly GEJ won he became their Jesus. I know they would have start kissing Buharis butt if he'd played nice with them... And this same shameless pro-biafrans ate currently seducing Atiku so they could produce a vp Candidate under the same APC they so much despise. IPod leaders are as their followers complete sham and fraud.
[size=13pt]Please do not insult GEJ by calling him (an Ijaw man with an Ijaw accent) an Igbo man. If your declaration of this is based on Igbos declaring Jonathan their son for their own political reasons, then we must agree that Logos is no man's land because some south-easterners (i.e Igbos) said so (for their own fraudulent reasons)[/size]
dunkem21: Nobody made any attempt to impeach the President..
No senator was credited with that statement and APC should quit screaming Wolf..
Once again, you see why we take SR with a pinch of salt
[size=13pt]Perhaps no senator has been credited with saying that but the APC govs' coming to terms with the dismal performance of the presidency haunts them very much inside that they eventually come up with this statement outside [/size]
Sirmuel1: The Facebook is fully active now. Its just a shame we haven't gotten at least a 100likes.
[size=13pt]In fact, for a quater of the cost I can create nationwide online media strategy. earth-shaking. But my hands are actually full now. Even if the budget was available.... let's just say my hands are full[/size]
[size=13pt]But I remember when I said for Buhari, contesting and even actually being president only serves to erode his legacy. He should not have contested at all. But maybe God wanted us to know what he really was.
That being said, if he did not become present, the legend Nigerians had of him would have persisted. It would have been preserved[/size]
basingstoke: YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE POINT. BURUTAI WAS THE MULE FRUSTRATING JONATHAN'S EFFORT IN FIGHTING BOKO HARAM. HE WAS THE ONE LEAKING INFO TO BUHARI
[size=13pt]Wow! could this be true? Could this be the reason why he forcefully ensured that Osibanjo the vice president was prevented from attending the first security council meeting in the first days of this administration?[/size]
basingstoke: Buhari relly disappointed us. we had too much hope in him for a better Nigeria
[size=13pt]It is not just too much hope. It was a combination of too much hope on the part of the electorate, misplaced on a heavily unprepared candidate. A candidate perhaps more unprepared than any other in our recent history.[/size]
[size=13pt]I think it will be very interesting to have a collection of all the "I told you so" posts about Buhari that makes us all feel like we have great insight because we correctly predicted some of the undesired negatives which would emanate from a Buhari presidency. I am certain Nairaland is full of such warnings.
So I thought it would be fun to stack them up here. It will be nice to see how accurate (or not) these warnings were. So if you have yours, please do put it up here (screenshot and link or just the screenshot).
We'd love to see these warnings again. I am starting with mine.