₦airaland Forum

holysina:
guy stop this already, the fight is enough. just this morning one guy opened a thread clamoring for all igbos to be killed and now u dom start you own with google. eishhh

Igbos are haunted by inner feelings of inferiority, relative to others that is why they have to go out of their way to do things like this.

Like I am minding my biznis walking down the street and some dude starts disturbing me with "girls like me! Girls like me! Don't you know?"

I'll immediately know he has issues with himself.

About those searches, it is very likely Igbos that were making those searches in an unquenchable quest for self validation, I believe to erase the inferiority that they feel relative to their neighbours

That is not even how to find out the geographic location from which searches originated on Google. For that, you log into your AdWords account and use the "keyword tool"

All those criticizing the barcanista post without countering with the any level of objectivity + intelligence...

1) do not qualify to be engaged in intelligent discourse

2) seem to represent the kind of twisted corruption that has plagued the core (tempted to say "soul") of our society for decades now

adeyemi2015:
When will you start seeing something positive in this administration?
Try to strike balance and be objective..... at least for once pls!

Can you repeat what you have just said?

pazienza:
Ok. At this juncture, I would like to know the ethnic group in SS that you are specifically from, God help you that it's not Edo, cos if it is, I am going to so tear you apart, you will regret ever starting this debate.

Without knowing your ethnic group, this discussion can't truly hold, cos it's all about comparison.

let's compare your ethnic group and Igbos pre colonially, colonially and in independent Nigeria.

SS, is a nebulous term. Step into the light, reveal your ethnic group, I dare you.

[size=13pt] The picture below summarises my position. We are not insecure about our cultural identity and heritage. We are as cool as cucumber. You bother other Nigerians because of your inner insecurities.[/size]

Gwan2:
Am not an Amechi fanboy nor have i indebt knowledge of his antecedence...bt one thing i knw abt Amechi is dat he is a VERY BRAVE MAN.
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When militancy was at Itz peak, Amechi vehemently refuséd recognizing d militants as freedom fighters wich dey claim to be and instead term dem as criminals...he single handedly made Rivers state uncomfortable for dia operation...That was dsame time som south south governors catch cold at d mention of Asari, BOyloaf, Ateke Tom,Tompolo etc.
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The biggest mistake PDP made was losing diz brave warrior...

Are you not aware that the history of militancy in Rivers State can be traced back to Amaechi

These boys were disturbing because they were no more receiving funds. They were no more receiving funds because Odili was gone

And who introduced them to the corridors of power and money? Amaechi did. He connected them to Odili (his boss) who was an older man and had no connections with the "small small" cult boys.

It was under Odili that a militant was Chief Security Officer of the state.

Amaechi, when he became governor, knew they had become a societal I'll that would drag him down. So he brutally turned his back against them for the sake of his name and career.

Remember Dr. Omehia was the governor temporarily (for months) before Amaechi got in there by a court's decision. It was during this period the militants started making a super nuisance and menace of themselves.

Rivers people overlooked these things we knew about him. Unfortunately, grandeur mirage set in and he believed the hype of psycophants.
Now he has marinated his view of himself and his image back at home in a sauce which is completely out of sync with reality (figments of his imagination).

Unfortunately for him too, reality is slowly but steadily catching up with him

fr3do:
Ode! The colonialists were invading via the river niger, it makes sense that we that were close to the river tackle them.

[size=14pt]Ha ha! While the others go on holiday.
Even now the concept of an ethnic-wide military mobilisation eludes you. It is beyond the reach of your mind.
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fr3do:
read about the Ekumeku war where Anioma and present day Anambra communities unitedly doughty against british colonial invaders.

Again you buttress my point.

"Anioma and present day Anambra communities..."

What percentage do these two make of the Igbo people? And what was the rest of the Igbo population doing when these two were fighting?

Let me guess.
1) going to their farms
2) getting married
3) organising yam festivals
4) and doing all the other things that communities that mind their business do

If you could not see this before you made your post, I am tempted to say that a shallow intellect plaguing you and your kind has helped immensely in keeping your kind in their second fiddle role politically in Nigeria

Curlieweed:
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Ok. Good to know.

[size=14pt]Em... *clears throat*
Next time you forget, look in the mirror.[/size]

Curlieweed:
Thank you for sharing your ravings with me but you're clearly mistaking me for a psychiatrist or someone that can help resolve whatever deep emotional trauma you're going through.

Again, I apologize for my inability to help you and hope you find the help you need.

[size=14pt]I am not the one disturbing everyone, asking for Biafra and recognition within the Nigerian polity at the same time[/size]

Curlieweed:
I always find comments like Mr coolscott's very amusing. I thank my ancestors that they left the earliest evidence of a sophisticated civilization in southern Nigeria in the form of the Igbo-Ukwu bronze figures from the 9th century (not 19th century oh). Some of the beads discovered at Igbo-Ukwu came from as far as the Nile Delta (Egypt for the ignorant) showing that we didn't start building our commercial network yesterday. That's why I always laugh when people talk about how we were unorganized and all sorts of crap. Even the area we occupy as well as the sheer population density in Igboland is a clear evidence of an old and successful culture.

[size=13pt]Perhaps this is why your cultural political structure remained (and still remains) feeble. You obviously believe making bronze figures translates into a solid, large and well organised political block.

If that was the case, all the Yorubas needed to do to create their well structured system would be to make bronze artifacts.

In fact, all any society needed to do anywhere in the world was just make bronze artifacts.

Maybe that's what you did and that's why you ended up like this.[/size]

djon78:
Advanced in which way? The main problem with most blacks is complete ignorance. Tell me one black tribe in Africa that had its own written language? It was the white man that even gave us the writing of our language with their alphabet. The Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Arabs, Greeks, Romans etc all had writen languges prfating some 2000years. You were advanced and the white man colonised and forced you to pay tax to their foreign government. Who were your philosophers and thinkthanks? None. See the entire black were realy backward, it was the coming of the whites that brought a bit civilization, they left us 50+ years ago and till today we are where they left us. While Countries like Singapore and Malaysia that the whites gave independence almost same time with us have leapt in bounds and achieved great developments. Better open your eyes.

[size=14pt]If ignorance and confidence had not found a successful marriage in you, I am sure you would not have posted this.
Have you had of the Timbuktu scrolls in Mali?
You only wish others where as uncivilized as you because, as you admit, you were uncivilized yourselves.

The Malians did write in both Arabic and their own local dialects. For those that did not already know this, international attention was drawn to this when the terrorists in Mali not long ago wanted to destroy these precious artifacts and actually destroyed some.

http://www.soundvision.com/article/timbuktus-desert-scrolls-re-writing-the-history-of-africa

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-general/fight-save-ancient-texts-timbuktu-001243

As for kingdoms of the south of Nigeria, the white man had to pay royalties to us during the slave trade.
And during the palm oil trade, when the slave trade was abolished, they also paid royalties to our kings and chiefs. For years upon years on end, we did business with them.

It was only when the move for colonisation was made that they fought (and eventually conquered) all local resistance.

The kingdoms of the south, they brought to play ball, kingdom by kingdom (more dignified), sometimes sending stubborn kings on exile. But you? You were conquered village by village, because that was what you were. Just villages and clans. That was the strength of your political reach and power - clans.

You are obviously not aware of the exposure, and writings of our great great great grand fathers as they dealt with the British and Portugese business-wise.

You also are oblivious of the treaties that existed officially between the English monarchy and the kingdoms of the south. In your own case, there was not much of a political unit to make treaties with. You were villages and clans.

Your chiefs could neither read nor write. Youre village level political resistance was dismissed with little or no respect

And this is what what has trailed you and caused your political, and socio-cultural shallowness in this era. It takes years of social practice to have depth socially. It is not brought about by out-of-the-blues shouting "we the best" as if you inwardly fear being looked down upon on account of having a shallow or non-existent heritage as an ethnic nation
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TopGee:
If you are from South-south, which tribe? I know Igbo tribe are superior to other tribes in Nigeria both in science and technology and even sports and commerce. Please mention which area your tribe is superior to Igbos. Educationally we are ahead and militarily we dictated the pace in 1960.

We don't rely in oil because it can dry tomorrow. We now produce cars and your tribe cannot boast of a wheelbarrow and yet you brag ignorantly just because of oil that can dry tomorrow and your tribe will be worst than Somalia. Can your tribe fight and sustain a war without relying on importation of arms? Those are the things that make people strong. You cannot produce even pump action gun. How dare you compare your people with Igbos that can produce their own rockets and guide them to targets? Your people are far from being tagged inferior to Igbos. It is incomparable and don't go there.

Saudi Arabia with all their oil cannot attempt to claim superiority over Japan. What you can produce is what makes you great and not a lazy tribe that is so backward virtually in everything comparing itself with highly industrious Igbos.

[size=14pt]We are superior in the thing that has made the aboki subjugate you perpetually over the last 40 something years - COMMON SENSE

How come as perpetually as you call him the Hausa man inferior and unintelligent so also does he perpetually sit on you after every political contest?

So much so that an Ijaw man has become a civilian president in this era (and not you).

To feel a sense of belonging, you rallied behind ijaw-accented Jonathan, kissing south-south a$$ just to beggarly feel a sense of power by proxy.


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TopGee:
If you are from South-south, which tribe? I know Igbo tribe are superior to other tribes in Nigeria both in science and technology and even sports and commerce. Please mention which area your tribe is superior to Igbos. Educationally we are ahead and militarily we dictated the pace in 1960.

We don't rely in oil because it can dry tomorrow. We now produce cars and your tribe cannot boast of a wheelbarrow and yet you brag ignorantly just because of oil that can dry tomorrow and your tribe will be worst than Somalia. Can your tribe fight and sustain a war without relying on importation of arms? Those are the things that make people strong. You cannot produce even pump action gun. How dare you compare your people with Igbos that can produce their own rockets and guide them to targets? Your people are far from being tagged inferior to Igbos. It is incomparable and don't go there.

Saudi Arabia with all their oil cannot attempt to claim superiority over Japan. What you can produce is what makes you great and not a lazy tribe that is so backward virtually in everything comparing itself with highly industrious Igbos.

[size=13pt]We are superior in the thing that has made the aboki subjugate you perpetually over the last 40 something years - COMMON SENSE[/size].

TopGee:
If you are from South-south, which tribe? I know Igbo tribe are superior to other tribes in Nigeria both in science and technology and even sports and commerce. Please mention which area your tribe is superior to Igbos. Educationally we are ahead and militarily we dictated the pace in 1960.

We don't rely in oil because it can dry tomorrow. We now produce cars and your tribe cannot boast of a wheelbarrow and yet you brag ignorantly just because of oil that can dry tomorrow and your tribe will be worst than Somalia. Can your tribe fight and sustain a war without relying on importation of arms? Those are the things that make people strong. You cannot produce even pump action gun. How dare you compare your people with Igbos that can produce their own rockets and guide them to targets? Your people are far from being tagged inferior to Igbos. It is incomparable and don't go there.

Saudi Arabia with all their oil cannot attempt to claim superiority over Japan. What you can produce is what makes you great and not a lazy tribe that is so backward virtually in everything comparing itself with highly industrious Igbos.

[size=13pt]We are superior in the thing that has made the aboki subjugate you perpetually over the last 40 something years - COMMON SENSE.[/size]

sweetgala:
Frankly the Igbo seem to have an inferiority complex. They feel like they have a war with the Yoruba, like there is an active competition ongoing, they may have to update the Yoruba because we are oblivious to it, it is just recently the constant rambling and ranting has gotten to a peak ; as uncomfortable as the gobbledygook that is a bee's buzzing in ones ears, it's just goes on an you either have to please the bee or kill it for that drivel to stop.

I propose a Biafra referendum , let these people go, they may never let off on their inferiority complex and would forever compete with the Nigerian organisation, but their luney arguments would be made redundant and their success or failure would be lesson on how to birth a nation.

Thank you.
They don't even know how to secceed and it does not necessarily require arms. At this rate, they will never succeed unless the rest of the country kicks them out.

So let us help them.
Show them the diplomatic route to take and achieve this as soon as possible.

A post I put up on a thread here months ago.
I have modified it a bit here | victord1st IGBOSON1 pazienza NormalCodes TopGee

coolscott:
[size=13pt]The current concept of an igbo nation is not refined at all because consciously or subconsciously, Igbos sadly find historical identity only in Biafra. This is because before the war, there is totally nothing they did together as a people. And this in turn is because before the colonialists, they were unable to make themselves into one political group.They therefore skew every position or narration concerning 1963 - 1970 for the sake of historical pride because besides it, they have nothing else they did historically together as a people.


The Igbo nation was not born before Biafra. Igbos did not know the geographical boudries of their ethnic group before colonialism.


Other ethnic groups are different because their ancient kingdoms existed before the white man. They formed themselves into formidable and full political bodies. They had their ancient conquests (and their ancient failings) so they do not needed to glorify or skew events of the 60s to paint themselves as heroes or as people that should be sympathized with for being treated unfairly.


Please understand that there was political structure on the clan (or group of clans) level only. That is why although there were sometimes clashes between Igbo clans and villges, there was never a time when all Igbos took up arms to fight any encroacher who tried to encroach into any Igbo vilage close to other ethnic groups.



That political structure just didn't exist. If villages in the northern area were fighting, Etche Igbos probably knew nothing about it. The Onitshas had a kingdom of their own, obviously influenced by the culture of politically organised kingdoms not far from them. This is just the reality of the historical political structure.


This total absence of a complete Igbo kingdom from time past to now is the source of this unspoken touchiness about their identity that Igbos feel and which they are usually not conciously aware of because a huge part of it is subconscious, or has been transferred from an older person to a younger person in the narration of ideas from the old to the young.

It is the cause of the self-haunting questions about identity, which plague the Igbo mind, leading to this inferiority complex where he intermittently blurts out fabrications of his mind about past Igbo glory


This touchiness shows up in behaviour others get puzzled by. Things like

1). venturing to culturally lay claim to towns/cities in other well know and established ancient kingdoms of other ethnic groups,

2). the persecution complex persona,

3). and even genuinely not being aware of the ridiculous spectacle they often make of themselves when they misbehave...

are all outward manifestations of this inner touchiness cum inferiority complex which they feel about history/identity/heritage as compared to that of others

And believe me, this plagues both the great and small in Igbo land. The educated an "uneducated"


If Igbos can form themselves into one well structured, traditional political body, there will be a different kind of soundness from a deep level, the depths of which perhaps cannot be surpassed.


Complete political wholeness and congruence from a deep traditional level is the only way to the modern day soundness that some other ethnic groups currently enjoy.



This will take completely restructuring the whole traditional governing system across the board, so that traditional authority flows from one stool to all the other stools in the Igbo nation, with in-built checks and balances. This will amount to creating/starting a traditional monarchy within and for all of the Igbo nation in this mordern day and time.



When I was younger, in my naiive enthusiasm, I thought this was possible. Now I am older I still indulge myself to a little fantasy and imagine it is.[/size]

lygn19:
Ogoni, Bonny and Eket do they share boundary with Kogi before?

I now see that you should not be speaking (or paid serious attention to when an important discourse is going on)

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IGBOSON1:
^^^Your idiocy gets worse by the minute! Oyel was discovered in commercial quantity in Oloibiri in 1956....a good decade before the 1966 coup!

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQFjAAahUKEwjGqb3VqZXHAhXEfHIKHQZ9Dsg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FOloibiri&ei=fMfDVcb7LcT5yQOG-rnADA&usg=AFQjCNF6i_gDmVgdgD7u60cdpjcfOT3pMg

You want to tell me nobody knew of the black-gold that lay beneath the soil and waters of the Eastern Region at the time, yet less than a year after Ironsi was murdered in cold blood Gowon and his sidekick Awo knew exactly where and where the black-gold lay in the Eastern Region to be able to surgically slice out the 'juicy' parts and place in Rivers state!?

Just take a look at the active oil wells/fields in the area today and you can almost trace the boundary between Rivers and Abia/Imo just by looking at the cluster of wells/fields on the map! And you want to sit there and posit that Ironsi enacted the unification decree to marginalize the Northern and Western Regions?

You're a pathetic liar!

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The willful embrace of self-delusion that earns you further disrespect from people you clearly need but whose aid, sympathy and support you ill-advisedly want to gain by disrespecting them.

Perhaps, in your culture, the more you disrespect others the further you get into their graces

So Brass, ogoni, Bonny, eket etc are at the boundaries of IMO and abia eh?

The more I hear Igbos talk, the more I know they are and will remain the most minor tribe in terms of integrity for a very long time

noah91:
I think everybody has d right 2 self determination n there r measures 2 b taken 2 seceed not just mouth making. If d yorubas had wanted 2 seceed, they would hv cos they'r great thinkers n strategists.They wont hv 2 use a gun 2 suceed.They r so ahead

That is what I keep saying.
These Igbos are so (the way they are) they don't even know how to secced.

They don't need guns to secceed.

The truth is we are not the ones holding them back in Nigeria. They are the ones holding themselves.

Why don't we help them by educating them on the best way to secceed. We will all breath a sigh of relief when they are gone. At least I will.

~ South south

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NAIJASOM:
Frequently asked questions about Igbos and their answers by Ogaranya Uju Nkwocha Afulezi, Ph.D., Duru Akwukwo III Ndi Umuohiagu



Question: Is Southeast and Igboland the same thing?

Answer: Not at all. Southeast is only about 3/5th of Igboland. Igboland covers the whole of Southeast, parts of Rivers, Delta, Benue, and Akwa Ibom states.

Question: Why were we taught in school that Igbo people are easterners?

Answer: It is both an unfortunate parroting by teachers and careless adoption by Igbo educated class. Igbo people come from Southern Nigeria and not Eastern Nigeria. It may be correct to say that the Igbo are found predominantly in eastern Nigeria. Show ever, by saying that the Igbo are easterners, the implication is that the Igbo in western Nigeria, numbering about 2.5 million (Agbor, Ogwashi Ukwu, Ibuzo, Okpanam, Asaba, Orimili, Ndokwa, Anioma, etc) are not Igbos. The best known Igbo anthropologist Professor Mike Onwuejeogwu is from the western part of Nigeria, Chukwuma Nzeogwu, Dennis Osadebe, Okonkwo Adibe (the famous musician), Sony Odogwu, etc. are all from the western part of Nigeria. They are no less Igbo than those who live in the eastern part of Nigeria. The correct answer to your question is "the Igbo come from Southern Nigeria."

Question: Why do some Igbo refer to themselves as "core Igbo?"

Answer: That is clearly arrant nonsense. Nobody is core and others peripheral. All Igbo are the same. It is both arrogant, thoughtless and insensitive for anybody to regard others as marginal.

Question: Is Igboland landlocked?

Answer: [/b]Not at all. Igboland stretches from Igwe Ocha (Port Harcourt) to Agbor. The Atlantic ocean washes the shores of Igboland. Africa's second largest river - River Niger, traverses Igboland with one part of Igboland in the east and another part in the west of Nigeria. Uguta Lake has the potential of accommodating large ships and could be made a navigable port. If Igboland is landlocked, then all Nigeria is landlocked.

[b]Question: Is there oil in Igboland?

Answer: [/b]Yes, indeed. There is a lot of oil in Imo State, Abia, Ebonyi, Rivers State and Delta States Igbo areas, and now in Anambra. Besides, Igboland has many other natural resources, including coal, limestone, etc.

[b]Question: Are the Igbo a nation or a tribe?

Answer: [/b]The Igbo are a nation, and a very large one. There are many tribes in Igbo nation, just like you have many tribes within Israel.

[b]Question: Why do some Ikwerre people say they are not Igbo?

Answer: First, it is not up to them to say what they are and what they are not. When God created them, He did not ask them who they wanted to be. He just created them Igbo. The only way you'll know who belongs to what ethnic group in Nigeria is the name and what language the name comes from. Anybody whose name is Amadi or Onyeri, or Eke, or Odili, Wanodi (Nwanodi) does not need to tell you who he is. He is Igbo, his politics notwithstanding.

Question: But they claim that their language is Ikwerre, not Igbo.

Answer: That is politics. Ikwerre is a dialect of Igbo language. Just like an Ngwa man speaks Ngwa Igbo, Arochukwu speaks Arochukwu Igbo, etc.

Question: Some people say that Igbo language is not complete, is it true?

Answer: [/b]No language is complete. All languages borrow from each other. Igbo language is very rich. It has inexhaustible and rich linguistic features like idioms, proverbs, aphorisms, sayings, anecdotes, riddles, folklores, etc. Igbo language is one of the major languages of the world, being spoken by millions of people.

[b]Question: How many are the Igbo?

Answer: The Igbo are very numerous. There is educated guess that if Nigeria's census is properly enumerated, the Igbo could easily be the largest ethnic group in the country. They may number up to 40 million. Everything right now, is speculation. Nobody knows the true stratification or ethnic populations in Nigeria. The Igbo are the only ethnic group found in large numbers everywhere in Nigeria, and foreign countries more than any other ethnic group in Africa.

Question: Do the Igbo have a culture of their own?

Answer: [/b]Yes, indeed. Igbo culture is perhaps, one of the richest and all-encompassing cultures in this world. Igbo culture always observes the temporal and the spiritual aspects of cosmology. The study of Igbo culture reveals that it is extremely deep and original.

[b]Question: Why do the Igbo wear Yoruba Agbada and Hausa babban riga but the Yoruba and the Hausa do not ever wear Igbo national dress?

Answer: Unfortunately this is the case. The Igbo have very attractive and resplendent national dresses. And they come in assortments that are extremely dignifying. The Igbo take up foreign cultures more readily than other Nigerians, and they seem not to care that nobody reciprocates their carefree attitude to life. Most ethnics promote their cultures and show off what makes them unique. Actually, it is still the same so-called educated Igbo class who behave in such disgraceful and the devil-may-care attitude.

Question: Why do the Igbo call themselves Biafrans?

Answer: Great question. Some people have the idea that Biafra originates from the Bight of Biafra. But that is wrong. There was the Kingdom of Biafra that ruled most of the ancient world about 50,000 years ago. Unfortunately, nobody talks about it, for whatever reason, I do not know. But, it is in the ancient maps of the world. If you wish I'll make a copy and send to you.

Question: Were the Igbo also taken into slavery during the slave trade?

Answer: [/b]Yes. The Igbo slaves themselves gave account of their travails in slavery. Olauda Ekwuano an Igbo ex-slave who bought his freedom in Britain was the first slave to write about his experience in slavery. His book has become a classic. You ought to find it and read it. Also, other Igbos who were brought to America revolted and some walked back on water and were said to have returned to Africa. Several books have been written about them. One of such books is "Ibo Landing." It is available in bookstores like Barnes & Noble. In Haiti, the Igbo settled there and refused to be colonized by anybody. There are many places where the Igbo left their mark or their signature.

[b]Question: How did the Igbo know days and years?

Answer: [/b]The Igbo invented an accurate, if not the most accurate calendar called "Iguafo Igbo (Igbo Calendar)." In Igbo calendar, there are four market days - Eke, Afor, Nkwo, Orie that make one week. Four days make one week, seven weeks make one month, and thirteen months make one year. There are 28 days for each month, with the last month having 29 days. Each month starts the same day as the previous. Igbo calendar forms the perfect astronomical alignment with the cosmos, and regulates the seasons, agriculture, navigation, astrology, geography, mathematics, travel, etc.

[b]Question: Did the Igbo have their own alphabets?

Answer: [/b]Yes, indeed. It is called "Nsibidi."

[b]Question: How about mathematics; did the Igbo know mathematics?

Answer: [/b]Yes, indeed. There are such inventions as "Okwe" and "Mkpisi" which the Igbo used to resolve figures.

[b]Question: Did the Igbo know anything about banking?

Answer: [/b]Yes. Igbo banking was more in the nature of Savings and Loans. The authentic Igbo savings and loans invention called "Isusu' in which contributions are pooled each week and one person, who has the need, collects, is still in practice. Igbo slaves took this invention to the Caribbean Islands where they still practise it and call it "Sue Sue."

[b]Question: Some people say that Igboland is too small for the Igbo, that they have no alternative than to live as Nigerians: is this true?

Answer: False. Igboland is a large country. Do every Igbo need to stay and work in Igboland? No. Everywhere in the world, some will stay home while others venture abroad in search of opportunities. Igboland is large enough for the Igbo. And it is a very rich and hospitable part of the world. It has rich soil for agriculture, abundant rainfall, good sunshine, and table land in many parts. Its land space and population are more than that of over half of the present countries in the world.

Question: Where did the Igbo come from?

Answer: That question is still being asked. There are very intriguing theories or histories now being studied. You may have heard of the Jewish angle, the Egypt angle, and the Origin of man angle. This twenty-first century, hopefully, will resolve the mystery.

Question: Why do people say that the Igbo are not united?

Answer: Those who say so, do so out of ignorance. The Igbo are famous for their unity. In the colonial period and the First Republic of Nigeria, the Igbo were always envied for their unity. Under Igbo Union, they accomplished many things. They were feared by others for this. Since after the war, the Igbo are gradually recovering and getting rid of the individualism they developed brought about by their war experience which enabled them to survive as a disinherited people. Now, there are vigorous efforts to reunite them and return them to their old glory which served them well in the past.

Question: Some people say that the Igbo are susceptible to being bought by some other Nigerians, and that they "sell" the Igbo in the bargain; is this true?

Answer: The same parroting and recycling of unfounded talk. When you hear such a talk, challenge the one who is mouthing it to give you evidence, or to cite an example of such an Igbo person. He is likely to say "what of Jim Nwobodo?" Tell him that the Igbo number about 40 million, if it would be fair for the action of one person to represent the integrity of the other 3.99.9 million. The truth is that an Igbo is like any other human being, when he sees where he can take advantage of a situation, he goes for it. It has nothing to do with "selling." Were we not told that fish clusters where the river was deepest or that the dog follows he who has crumbs? Not long ago in the history of Nigeria, other Nigerians were also running after the Igbo for crumbs because the Igbo were in position to call the shots. Things will not remain as they are today. In fact, things are changing fast.

Question: Why are other Nigerians always persecuting the Igbo?

[b]Answer: [/b]I have always tried to know myself. I am one of those who believe that the Igbo are among the most peaceful people on earth. But, because of the fact that they are very hardworking, ambitious, and not afraid to live anywhere, or take up any task, they tend to be resented by their less ambitious and successful neighbors or hosts. When you confront a non-Igbo to say what specific offense the Igbo have committed against them, oftentimes they draw blank, or engage in fabrications, which they insist must stand for a fact. The Igbo believe in live-and-let-live. It is virtually impossible for any Igbo to rise against their guests or hosts. It has never happened in Nigeria, or elsewhere. It is an abomination in Igboland for a host to cause his guest harm. Instead, a guest is considered metaphysically and physically under the protection of the host. All Igbo deities forbid doing harm to a guest. The Igbo are accused of "loving money." I suppose the charge is based on the fact that they work hard and acquire money in the bargain. One would like to believe that the outcome of hardwork is good harvest and hopefully prosperity. If anybody take-Do the Igbo have their own system of jurisprudence before the arrival of the white mans offense at the prosperity of a hardworking person, then the Igbo or for that matter any other person or persons, have no apologies to render.


Answer: [/b]Yes. The Igbo had a system of resolving conflicts. The elders were presented with cases that could not be satisfactorily settled within the family or kindred. Matters where veracity must be ascertained, the Igbo resort to spirituality. Oath-taking is a matter left to the spirits to settle. Those who swear falsely were expected to be killed by the spirits within a given period. After the period, he is acquitted and he could celebrate with public merry-making. The Igbo did not have any prisons, but they could ostracise a culprit, exile him, or send him into slavery or to serve to a deity.

[b]Question: Why don't the Igbo teach these things you are telling me to their children?

[b]Answer: [/b]In the pursuit of what they taught was the "new way" either from Europeans or o Christianity, the Igbo began to distance themselves from their heritage, and in the process became lost in the wilderness of a world they hardly understand. They have learned their lesson the hard way. The twenty-first century will lead them back home.

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[size=14pt]A finely done concoction of self delusion, mixed with grandeur mirage and persecution complex [/size]

EasternLion:
O biara i gbu m, ga-egbu onwe ya. Ihe m si na-ekwu ihe bu maka ndi eze gworo na ndi Yoruba.

Nye ndi mba mmiri -
Ndi ebe anyi iberibe ike(otule) abuo di ka di na nwunye, eziokwu bu na enwere ike inwe nchitu ahu, mana ihunanya na mmekorita anyi di na ha abuo e nweghi mtukpo.

(to our southern brothers)
(Our people say that "the buttocks are like married couple though there is constant friction between them, they still love and live together"

O bu nu ka o ha m na-onu.

It is only you and your buttocks that are one. Everyone to his own but****s

TopGee:
If you are from South-south, which tribe? I know Igbo tribe are superior to other tribes in Nigeria both in science and technology and even sports and commerce. Please mention which area your tribe is superior to Igbos. Educationally we are ahead and militarily we dictated the pace in 1960. We don't rely in oil because it can dry tomorrow. We now produce cars and your tribe cannot boast of a wheelbarrow and yet you brag ignorantly just because of oil that can dry tomorrow and your tribe will be worst than Somalia. Can your tribe fight and sustain a war without relying on importation of arms? Those are the things that make people strong. You cannot produce even pump action gun. How dare you compare your people with Igbos that can produce their own rockets and guide them to targets? Your people are far from being tag inferior to Igbos. It is incomparable and don't go there.

On the contrary, Igbos are the most inferior tribe for though they have sh***t smeared on the backs of their trousers, they keep running around saying "we the best! We the best!"

By the way, I didn't read through your jargon past the first sentence and some way into the second. Sorry to say, I just know it will be jargon. I don't have to put myself through that

victord1st:
Nothing like SS brothers,they are Igbos let that stick to your brain,bigot!

See these uncivilized Igbos...
You have the efunctry to call us (south-southeners) Igbos who sold you guys as slaves all along Nigeria's southern coast to the white man.

You who could never form yourselves into one political unit.

You who have never had a military.

You who never knew the boundaries of the area covered by Igbo-speaking people until the 20th century.

You who are so "intelligent" every 4 years, the fight for presidency and the fight for Biafra reaches its peak. Even children would know it is self-shooting in the foot.

It is time we started referring to you people as the inferior rascally people that you are...

...who up till now in this 21st century still kill yourselves over chieftaincy titles when other south-south kingdoms solidly set their chieves, senate houses, and royal structure 100s of years ago.

I hear Ojukwu told some south-south guys "good morning". In return, I more fittingly say "Good morning and stop making more noise than others since you were the last to get up and actually, the last to be born. Keep quiet and learn"

I see that you will remain the most disgruntled Nigerians and the most subjugated for all your sustained misdemeanors.

pazienza:
Since when has banding up to form a unit to invade other people's lands, conquer them, and take spoils of war now seen as something to be proud of.

You accuse Igbos of land grabbing, when we never did such, yet you derive pleasure in knowing that you terrorized and grabbed people's lands, can you smell your hypocrisy?


An unorganized group have managed to produce a first military president, a civilian president, a speaker of house, a Senate president, all the damn Post Nigeria can ever offer, name it, and they have had them all.

An unorganized group has the most developed human resources in Nigeria.

This unorganized group that practiced democracy in its purest form when Greece was still uninhabited, will always naturally be ahead of you!
https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statistics
https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

Balderdash
And you are so organised, the fights for Biafra and Igbo presidency hit their peak at the same time (every 4 years around election time).

Anthropologically, a measure of the degree of civilization of societies or ethnic groups was the size of the political units into which they could form themselves.

Now the Igbos never could make it beyond the clan level. So whereas they had no Igbo wars against other people (the Igbo nation politically did not exist) they had inter clan wars (because the clans politically existed) .

When these clans went to war, they banded up to form a unit, a band of clan fighters.

That is why you imagine others were a band of "clanish" fighters.

The sheer might of the military of other ancient nations that were, is beyond the grasp of your imagination either because such a display of organised might is alien to you or, simply because it hurts you to know that others where that advanced and you were not.

IGBOSON1:
^^^What are you on about!?.......Republic of SS states indeed!

I want you to list the ethnic groups that will make up this SS Republic....all because podosci says Igbos will marginalize them! Dude, if i were to ask you to mention the articles of association for ethnic groups that'll make up a Biafra or Lower Niger Republic what would be your answer? Do you actually know on what basis these ethnic groups would come together to form a nation?

So i'm to take it you're saying if Igbos leave Nigeria, you would want the Ijaw, Ibibio/Annag/Efik, Ikwerre, Ogoni, Ogba....and maybe Urhobo to form a country separate from Ndigbo? How do you intend to cajole or threaten those that may want to form a nation with Igbos? Remember your lies and divide-and-rule tactics employed pre and during the Biafra/Nigeria war cannot work today.....everyone is much more enlightened and have access to information at their finger-tips unlike before!

Now i want you to show how Igbos marginalized their neighbours in the past that warrants your assertion; i also want you to tell me if these other ethnic groups in the Niger Delta are today equal to the Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba; i also want you to tell me exactly which ethnic group in the South South you're from....this would help put things in proper perspective!

You say 'it's good to remain in Nigeria'? By this statement i assume you're ok with the status-quo as is presently obtainable?.....I assume so because i've not heard any agitation from you and your ilk for the country to be restructured to reflect how a true fiscally compliant federation should operate!

Cheers!

So you don't know that the kingdoms of the south south consider you inferior, you who could never make yourselves (culturally) into one kingdom before the white men came.
It is not as if you have even succeeded now.

You who never new the boundaries of Igbo land before the white men came (and even long after they came)

You who because you never formed yourselves into one political unit, never fought one single war (as the Igbo nation) against any one.

For hundreds of years, ancient kingdoms of the south south have had well organized systems plus national militaries.

We fought our wars on land disputes. Any attempt by neighbours to claim or annex the tiniest village on the outskirts of our kingdoms would attract the wrath of the full force of our military.

So when we look at you, we see clowns.

You did nor organise your self in the past, you failed to organise yourselves post-independence, and you still feel a zero need to organise yourselves now.

Individually, you achieve, but as a people, you are only to be pitied

EasternLion:
For real?

Don't you know?

Shebarh:
99.9% of guys on nl aiint virgins so y the thread

I am

pazienza:
Because you won the first war from outside( foreign weapons) .


Biafrans want to starve you of those foreign weapons,and bomb you into stone age with Biafran locally manufactured weapons should you attempt to invade Biafra again or atleast level the field of play by making sure you will not be the only ones given foreign weapons this time around. We all know Nigerians are incapable of locally manufacturing weapons, your threats of unleashing another genocide on Biafrans should we attempt to secede is all but built around your securing foreign weapons while starving Biafrans of such.

If you think it is by fighting, you have got it wrong. Secession does not need to be achieved by fighting in this day and age. Also giving the prevailing circumstances.
America attained independence by war.
Nigeria didn't.
We however fought a civil war after independence. So did America.

If so called biafrans carry arms, it will be such a foolish move that will cost them lives, economic growth and in the end so much money.

You don't ask to be operated upon simply because you're constipated or because you swallowed some orange seeds.

CreampieAngela:
Biafra republic must be actualised in Jesus name. Amen

I have no problems with Igbo states becoming Biafra.

It is just off-putting, the need for the endorsement of the British.
How they naturally feel the need to submit themselves to the British. The master-subordinate thing is still in their heads.

What they need to do is work with themselves and the international community as a whole (the UN) for international endorsement.

It is however not wrong if they are only trying to leverage on their relarionship with the British to fain better access to the UN as Biafra. Or trying to relate diplomatically with as many nations as possible as Biafra.

madridguy:
Any prove for your claim?

150billion naira spent on monorail that covers only =N=50 distance whether by taxi or by bus.
Some allege that more than this original budget got spent

1009ja:
Amaechi must believe we are all fools. If PMB puts him in the cabinet, he would have done himself no favours in the way the [ublic sees him and the corruption fight. Not every looter that worked for APC campaigns will be selected for this. The president must remove the himself from these looters. They are just looking for cover to enjoy their bounties.

The gravity is in the unprecedented degree of foolishness his audience must have in order to believe his lie.

He fell out of favour with many in Rivers State this way. Which is why even if Rivers elections are finally cancelled and redone, being seen as a candidate closely associated with Amaechi just about concludes the failure of that candidate at the polls