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Gerrard59:
Ignorance 101 being displayed.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with GM crops or foods. Even Nobel laureates have said there's no scientific evidence that to show anything wrong with GM foods.

Organic? Yeah....... Use that to feed 200 million people.

Finally, someone who understands.

What is this? What the hell is this?! GMOs are safe to eat, and this debate has been laid to rest a long time ago (among credible scientists, at least). Their safety has been affirmed by every major worldwide health organization.

Research shows us that GMOs make up at least 70% of the feed for hundreds of billions of farm animals, year after year for 29 years with no negative effects.

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2014/09/17/the-debate-about-gmo-safety-is-over-thanks-to-a-new-trillion-meal-study/#2395e842ca93

Here are 1,783 different scientific studies affirming the safety of GMOs:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/07388551.2013.823595

Now don't get me wrong, genetic modification is neither inherently safe nor harmful but rather, a tool that can be utilized for good or for evil. Regulation and scrutiny for each individual case is necessary but fear-mongering is not. They would prove to be an important tool in feeding the ever-growing world population.

4kings:
lol, any contribution?

I came to learn. I don't really know the nitty-gritty of pantheism.

Surprisingly good thread.

CAPSLOCKED:
ISLAM IS THE MOST PEACEFUL RELIGION, TRUE.

Moderates vs extremists.

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia...

Eddlad:
My post isn't restricted to carbon dating alone, am merely asking if there is the chance for measurements to be false beyond certain years.

Uranium-235 has a half-life of 700 million years. Uranium-238 has a half-life of 4.5 billion years. Potassium-40 has a half-life of 1.3 billion years. Rubidium-87 has a half-life of 50 billion years. Samarium-147 has a half life of 106 billion years. So I doubt that older dates are a problem, because every timescale has a suitable isotope for dating.

We have jerks on both ends and we'll never make any progress if we remain so jaded. It's not atheists vs theists, it's just a bunch of people who are trying to sensitize the religious majority on our views and grievances - at least that's what it should be.

Obviously, we can troll each other now and then; it's part of life but we need to make sure it's not coming from a place of intolerance. It's all fun and games until Senate passes another draconian law, or something.

I'm a pretty agreeable guy offline and I never bring up my disbelief unless asked, but the other day, some friends of mine were insulting Stephen Hawking because of his atheism and it made me realize how atheists are viewed in this country. This is a real problem that affects atheists in Nigeria, unfortunately though, were fail to properly address such things.

butterfly88:
very correct sire..taking it a step further,without consciousness matter dwells in a undermined state of probability...for instead the nature of the electron cannot be determined except there is a conscious observer..Therefore on a larger scale any universe that could have preceded consciousness only existed in a probability state

hence consciousness should precede the universe.....i totally agree!!

How does consciousness exist without matter? That's more improbable than the Universe popping into existence or always existing in some form.

Eddlad:
I will be quick,
How possible will it be for radiometric dating to falsely predict with accuracy beyond certain years. Say beyond 2000 years it starts "guessing".
We would really not know, no one is that old to tell it's a lie. Can we just hope it's correct cause has done it before?
Won't be the first time it got something wrong or experienced a 'partially correct truth'.

Just saying.

Carbon dating is not the only form of radiometric dating. They're are other chemical isotopes of elements that are used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C2693982592

Endeavour to read this.

Unlimited22:
And I guess Atheism is the only reasonable way, because it is absolutely reasonable to believe that nothing just suddenly became something, and that simple something somehow diversified and became a lot of specialized somethings we all see today.
When it is scientifically ( the same tool you guys use as a defence) proven that elements tend towards disorderliness.
Atheism requires the kind of faith I don't have.

Disorder would continue to increase in a closed system. A closed system is a body or area where no energy enters or leaves and remains the same. The hyperinflation of the Universe is and the expansion were observe to this day are in line with the Second Law of Thermodynamics which talks about entropy.

I'm saying this hoping that I don't have to explain to you that every complex structure is nothing more than a series of simple ones working in tandem. Or that our planet is not a closed system (since it gets energy from the Sun) and can therefore drive uphill chemical reactions to achieve complexity.

Understand these terms before using them in arguments.

Wait, three minutes? Or did I miss something?

KingEbukasBlog:
What about bestiality and incest , should those be legalized too ?

Bestiality is animal cruelty. Incest causes the problem of less than fit offspring, it also leads to the small problem of children being groomed by perverted guardians.

KingEbukasBlog:
Jusche is a political ideology and' being successful' refers to production

The North Koreans are taught that they are they are the masters of their own destiny - they control what they'll become or how their own lives will turn out to be not their Great Leader .

According to wikipedia :

Juche (Chosŏn'gŭl: 주체; hancha: 主體; MR: Chuch'e; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), usually translated as "self-reliance", is the official political ideology of North Korea, described by the regime as Kim Il-sung's "original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought" .It claims that an individual is "the master of his destiny" and that the North Korean masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction".

It is defined as self-reliance the way North Korea is officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea when we all know it is actually the Tyrannical Dictatorship of Villainy. Or like how Islam is the Religion of Peace (no Islamo.)

The ideology may mean self-reliance on paper but in actuality, is practised with strict dogmatic beliefs and autotheistic propaganda in favour of the leadership position.

How can you be the master of your own fate when you have to think through a 'Great Leader'?

KingEbukasBlog:
Mister , you didnt answer my question

Ok, for your lazy, lazy ass.

However, for the masses to be successful, they need a "Great Leader". [37]Marxism–Leninism argues that the popular masses will lead (on the basis of their relation to production); in North Korea, the role of a Great Leader should be essential for leadership.

The theory turns the Great Leader into an absolutist, supreme leader. [39]The working classis not to think for themselves, but instead to think through the Great Leader.

If only you'd actually looked up the things I told you to.

KingEbukasBlog:
@ Emboldened text

Read the first paragraph of the link you posted to me .

And answer correctly , Did Kim tell North Koreans that he controls their fate ?

See Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism in the Wikipedia entry for Juche. Also check out the 'Great Leader' theory.

I'll call you're attention to this passage in the entry:

The Great Leader is also a flawless human being, who never commits mistakes, who is always benevolent, and who always rules for the masses. The leader is incorruptible. For the Great Leader system to function, a unitary ideological system has to be in place.

You can read it yourself. This is clearly a system of raising the North Korean leader to godhood.

KingEbukasBlog:
I never said autotheism was atheism . And everyone knows that North Korea is an atheist state .

And autotheism makes no sense . As regards to my signature , am I an autotheist ?

You said that you are a god based on the specific dogma of your religion. An atheist can call him/her self a god in the sense that they believe that they are largely in control of their fate.

Once a man starts calling in himself a god over a set of people and begins to attribute unrealistic grandeur to himself, he becomes an autotheist. That's what has been happening in North Korea.

KingEbukasBlog:
You always rush to Wikipedia without reading the whole package . Honestly bro , stick to discussions on evolution . This must be getting embarrassing for you .


Doesn't ring a bell bro .

North Korea's Kim is clearly an atheist but due to megalomania , he subjects his countrymen to autotheism . Makes sense ?

Autotheism is not atheism. The Juche ideology promotes this. Everyone knows what is actually practised in that country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

KingEbukasBlog:
North Korea is an atheist state , an atheist state oo

lmaooo

You'll say anything.

winner01:
Good point.
We should change that national anthem line to "There Is No God".
What do you think

Even for you, this is a rather simple-minded response.

A National anthem is supposed to be an all-inclusive method to strip away individual differences between the people to highlight one uniting factor: Our nationality. This little phrase in the anthem reveals the intolerance of the majority to the irreligious minority. The discrimination is on a fundamental level. That's why people get angry at our dissenting opinions without ever trying to understand where we are coming from.

Historically, MLK was called an extremist and a militant in how he went about things. Today he's a hero. Now, don't get me wrong, atheists in Nigeria aren't going through half of what blacks went through back then but discrimination is not a competition. As long as it exists, something should be done about it.

When I'm 70, I'll like to live in a Nigeria where everyone is treated equally. Atheists won't have to hide. Same-sex marriage is legal. Sharia Law isn't applied to minors, etc. By pointing out the flaws in religion, I hope to show people that their beliefs are not absolutes, in order to inspire tolerance in the future.

It would be nice to know that I helped to drive positive change. Anybody who said that atheists shouldn't speak out is not helping to drive positive change in this area.

Well as long as we have 'O God of creation' and 'so help me God' in out National anthem and pledge respectively. I can't just ignore the obvious bias of society.

blueAgent:
You can read about all the Evolution myth and lies.

https://rcg.org/books/effai.html

How am I sure I'm getting unbiased information about evolution from a book written The Restored Church of God?

blueAgent:
How can Evolution and bigbang occur if not by Chance? you seem not to understand your own argument.

I have written several articles on Evolution and bigbang. both cannot occur without contridicting Laws of Science.

This is straight up falsehood. If you'd bothered to read the link I sent you at all, you wouldn't be saying this.

Evolution does not build up complex traits by chance because of the pressure of natural selection. Hence, any little deviation from the norm that makes affected members more likely to reproduce (i.e. pass their genes), would be favoured and kept. This was covered in the link I sent you that speaks briefly about a program that retains 'correct' letters; making it far more likely to get the desired feature.

You really should follow that link.

I'll repost it:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

Confidence in the Big Bang theory seems from the predictions postulated from the theory that have been met. Thus, confirming that our current knowledge of the universe is true.

They do not break the fundamental laws of science. That is just another myth.

Muafrika2:
Something like that.

Now it's not hard to see how fish can survive where dinosaurs can't. Fish can eat plankton and other microscopic animals readily in water. But a dinosaur would need to graze or hunt to survive,

I also spoke about harsh cold weather

How did Jellyfish survive? They either shrivel up or explode when the salinity is messed up. All that rain should have killed them.

Also, how did kangaroos and wallabies make it to Australia without leaving any evidence.

hopefulLandlord:
bros, me self tire o

anyways me just dey enjoy the back and forth between two religions that relies on delusion

It's like watching fish competing in a weightlifting contest. Lots of fun.

KingEbukasBlog:
So you masturbate or are promiscuous ? Or both ?

Yes.

lepasharon:
Are you aware he's an atheist married to a Christian?

That's why they are statistics carried out in his 'bedroom'.

KingEbukasBlog:
Dirty lie from the pit of hell . Its that a solution or what would instigate the experience ?

Try and see.

CltrAltDelicious:
yea atheists eat babies

I thought that was common knowledge.

AnonyNymous:
CoolUsername . If they cannot simply reply to the question, no need to argue with them. Its derailing the thread.

Good point. I'll be on my way out.

DoctorAlien:
Kikiki. So, the dinosaur and the rock came about the same time? I thought the earth was billions of years old? According to your evolution, when did dinosaurs come along? Is there no possibility that the igneous rock inside which the "fossil" is found has been there millions or even billions of years before the dinosaur appeared?

Through the use of index fossils ie: Fossils with a known age range.