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HardMirror:
I shake my head for you. If you still gamble. Please stop it totally. Flee far from gambling. A word is enough for the wise, I hope you won't sit in regret someday.

Nah, I don't do it because I don't really watch football. But a friend of mine does it all the time and that's his system. It's all about discipline, that's why I won't do it.

Ranchhoddas:
Whoever has the secret to hitting it big in sports betting should tell me now because I need money badly. Make I no go enter crime.

Bet on safe matches. Keep your tickets short but purchase many tickets. Just slot in one long ticket. The key isn't to try to win millions but to turn in a profit everytime.

hahn:
Then why create it?

Figs are not born that way, but once they allow the devil to take control of them, they start to seek carnal desires.

I have a few questions, why did the Muslim brother defend the paedophilia prevalent in his religion by pointing out the same weakness in another? Isn't his religion supposed to be superior? Isn't that why he is a Muslim? Doesn't everybody think his religion is the perfect system ordained by God? Why then, do they defend their religions by showing how they are no worse than others?

hahn:
Homosexuality has always been common in the church. Most priests are gay.

Even Judas kissed Jesus. That tells you something

Homophobes spend a lot of time thinking about gay se.x. Tells you one or two things about them.

hahn:
The moral of the story is "always carry food when travelling. Or at least have money to buy one. Do not be broke like Jesus"

This story also shows us that God hates figs.

[quote author=Deicide post=49080701][/quote]When they ask us why we always talk about their gods. To me, it's like their admitting that their beliefs have no basis in reality but telling us to be silent about it just to preserve their fantasy.

smite:
they're discussing best ways to indoctrinate and imprison the mind of that smart kid.

that is infringing on his human rights!

To be honest, I wasn't expecting so many people to agree with me. You have no idea how happy this makes me. I'm happy that people are finally seeing things this way.

EyeHateGod:
I m asking U Na ain't U the one that said vacuum is noting? Forgeting that only applies to Matter so bro what is Energy?

It's just a transferable property, not anything tangible.

shadeyinka:
This is wrong Physics bro!
There is energy-mass duality...no vacuum energy

Wut.

EyeHateGod:
What do U think energy is?

It's not a thing, is it?

shadeyinka:
Did I say Quantum Mechanics proves the existence of God? Heisenberg Uncertainty principle was the issue I was speaking about: Nothing is Exact!

That concerns momentum and position.

EyeHateGod:
Something can never come out from noting! But energy vibrating at the right frequency forms matter I don't know where U get the idea that that something came out from noting

That's vacuum energy, bro. It occurs in empty space (nothing).

shadeyinka:
Can something come out of nothing? According to my elementary Physics NO!. I hear from the labs that the fundermental "particles" are quarks if I am not mistaken.

Quantum Physics actually proves that science can never be exact. There is always the probability of the Physically impossible taken place. in that Rhelm is GOD.

The more you try to measure Him in the laboratory, the more Elusive he becomes.

Maybe you should try to understand a concept before using it as a tool in your argument.

Quantum mechanics are actually very well understood. If scientists were wrong about one part, everything would fall apart.

It is also predictable, which is why we see theoretical particles being confirmed as real. The major constraint in its research is the fact that it occurs in such a small scale (how do you magnify a photon?).

So, no... it isn't proof of a creator. Sorry to disappoint you.

KingEbukasBlog:
CoolUsername ! You dey cop out eh ? But you have to apologize for the false accusations and admit you distorted facts and presented specious arguments .

I'm getting tired of this argument. I provided the Wikipedia pages for both of the religions. Yet you still repeat the same thing with NO citation whatsoever.

Lennycool:
See the contradictory statements you theist make, you reiterate that nothing can come out of nothing, yet you believe God came out of nothing because he is eternal. Is that logic?

Science is ask about patterns, can something come out of nothing? Yes, it can. We observe this in quantum mechanics with virtual particles. Can complex structures come from simple ones spontaneously? Yes, we see this in the development of crystals and molecular self-assembly.

Now can a complex system come from nothing without going through simpler phases? I'm afraid we are yet to see that.

KingEbukasBlog:
One of the doctrines Confucianism centers upon is ancestor worship – which has to do with the veneration of the deceased ancestors whose spirits are believed to control the fortunes of the descendants. So this means that your suggestion that it could be atheistic is wrong .

Confucianism has a little similarity with deism . It's doctrine suggests that man can improve morally and ethically leaving no room for deities - it does not reject deities . It just believes that man's abilities to become better or improve are innate and does not require any intervention of deities .

In fact , the Chinese always believed that the spirits of the ancestors had to power to control fortune of their descendants .This explains why they are superstitious - execrable as seen by atheism - even though they are officially an atheist state currently .

So yes , I thought this through and its obvious as per the title of the thread .

You've got it mixed up. It encourages encourage respect to ancestors Chinese folk tradition is the one that talks about outright worship. And I never said it was atheistic in nature but agnostic. I said that adherents could have been atheist.

Confucianism and Taoism are only concerned with self and the universe. Just the way a Tai'chi student may focus on chi and stuff.

Also, superstition and atheism aren't mutually exclusive. There are
Atheists who below in reincarnation, Karma and even spirits.

The fact remains things at dating atheists didn't achieve anything in the Medieval Era is erroneous.

KingEbukasBlog:
Kay17 , CoolUsername If you believe in any of them , tell us why ? If you don't , your reasons .

I don't, simply for lack of evidence.

KingEbukasBlog:
Flaws ? Where ? Distorted facts ? I hope you understand the words you are using . I recently discovered that most NL atheists dont understand the meaning of some of the words they use .

I am still waiting for the achievements made by atheists - not agnostics , not non theists - during that period of time .

I modified the post.

Anyway, It's incredibly disingenuous to say that. You are shifting the goal posts. There would obviously have been atheist Confucianism practitioners as Confucius himself didn't preach about any god or divine revelation or afterlife. But of course now you want to pick your words.

You didn't think this one through, bro.

KingEbukasBlog:
Religion stops you from thinking , religion does this religion does that yet for 1000 years they achieved , nothing absolutely nothing .

Even coolusername tried vindicating the atheists but failed . I guess he is not cool anymore

I like the fact that despite the flaws in your argument and the distortion of facts that you presented that I pointed out, you still dishonestly say things like this. Really shows your narrow-mindedness.

[url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C4694789899]Confucianism[/url] and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C7832996352]Taoism[/url] are clearly non-theistic. China was able to flourish even with most of its major religions not believing in God.

KingEbukasBlog:
Enough with the circumlocution , are there putative ancestors . Yes or No ?

Of course, I'm giving you the evidence to show why they are in fact, putative. All of science is based on peer review and experimentation.

KingEbukasBlog:
I do . A strong one in fact - putative ancestors . Assumed to have existed and we've cartoons as proof . Wow!

It really isn't. Genetic sampling denotes common descent. Animals of the same species can breed to form viable offspring. But for the very fact that animals of different species but of the same family can - although with great difficulty - breed to give (usually non-viable) offspring gives credence to the theory that they must be recent splits from a common species.

We also both know that saying this theory is based on cartoons is incredibly erroneous, it's almost like you're just coming up with any excuse you can muster. Anybody can walk into the Smithsonian Museum to see fossil evidence for themselves. Everything is up for scrutiny, evolution of horses, man, birds, the branched hair ( precursor to feathers) preserved in amber, you can see all these if you want rather than repeat the same mantra.

KingEbukasBlog:
What do you think it is ?

An hybrid of Bible and science that suggests that creation didn't happen at once. I'll just like the details, and evidence supporting it.

KingEbukasBlog:
Good Lord ! I've had enough ! Having arguments with you and your ilk is so enervating . Just tell me the achievements atheists made during that era biko .

I just mentioned China's flourishing culture, genius.

chidex101:
Yes! Just imagine ur feelings after the act. Just imagine ur biological father seeing u while u perform the act to talk of Almighty God who sees everything. Ur body is a temple of the Holy Ghost and as such anything that defiles it is a sin. There is overcoming power in Psalm 23.

I don't sh!t in front of my biological father. Does that make it wrong?

Watch in this thread: the rare moment where adults discuss how best to indoctrinate an impressionable young child.

KingEbukasBlog:
For fossils of animals thought to have existed for millions of years to be very difficult to find , says a lot

Funny that you still argue against evolution when you couldn't even come up with a decent argument against it.

What is progressive creationism by the way?

promise10:
This is just HIS IDEA! WHAT HE THINKS AS WHAT IT SHOULD BE and NOT SCIENCE!

To avoid making science to look like a religion, just try your best to stay away from what people think or say about something, STAY WITH WHAT YOU OBSERVE.

Or do you have any REAL evidence for what he said?

I am waiting.

This is an incredibly inept argument. There is a ridiculous amount of evidence supporting these claims. There is great fossil evidence supporting these claims. You can go to the Smithsonian Museum and SEE the for yourself.

All you do its sit back and project the shortcomings of your own reasoning on science.

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm not trying to do anything , you are the one making those assumptions and attempting to force me to agree with you . The point is , they were not atheists - how does this elude you or are you being disingenuous ?! I mentioned Jainism because it is atheistic and its not of European origin - you were fixed on Europe .

I am giving you ideas to assist you with providing answers to the thread . And you are just getting it all wrong or feigning ignorance .

This argument has come full circle. The non-theistic people were on par with their theistic counterparts.

So, why are you singling the Jains out Taosim and Confucianism aren't theistic in nature? Are you doing that because you feel they are a less successful culture?

China flourished in non-theism but now you're trying to add them to the list of theistic traditions. Why? That's what I'm calling you out for. Your post was uninformed and now you're just dancing around.

Another horrendous post by someone with no knowledge of people's minds.

We live in less than 30% of the third smallest planet in the solar system. There are billions of solar systems in the Milky Way galaxy, billions of galaxies in the Universe. There is absolutely nothing that any single person can do that would have an impact on up to 0.1% of the universe. We have life spans that sum up to less than a blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things.

But it is all we have. All our friends and family, our memories, likes and dislikes and legacies exist in this tiny area that we have. That is why I feel that we should all live life to the fullest rather than wait to die. We should leave out footprints on the sand of time because you are only truly dead when nobody remembers you. This view helps me to appreciate the little opportunity I have to positively impact others to the best of my ability.

The OP here is playing on the arrogance assumption of man that he is the centre of the universe when in actuality, he is outnumbered and has existed for a shorter time than ants (who will probably outlast us).

The bottom line is that we are made up of the same stuff that stars are made up of. We are already part of a larger machine that will last for billions of years.

KingEbukasBlog:
I never assumed such - they were religious . They were not atheists that's why the thread wants to know the achievements made by the atheists . Stop obfuscating issues here !

You singled out the Jains as atheistic but are trying to shoehorn Confucianism and Taoism into theism, because they are religions. How does that make any sense? Obviously shows that you're deliberately twisting the facts.

KingEbukasBlog:
I never said scientific achievements , I said prominent achievements . And I never conveniently skipped anything - I clearly said Africans had the Moors who were Muslims .

So how did they achieve more than others?

CAPSLOCKED:

WE WERE TRICKED BRO..

No, no, no. That would have been impossible. For it to have been faked then the following must be true:

The US:

1. were willing and able to expend untold billions of dollars more than they were ever officially allocated on smoke-and-mirrors attempts;

2. were smart enough to fool 99% of the population (which some would contest);

3. were simultaneously stupid enough not to cover their tracks;

4. had the technological and film-making ability to actually fake the moon-landing footage;

5. were able to pay off and silence thousands of people people working at NASA and other companies for forty years when they couldn't even pull off a simple burglary;

6. were able to pay off and swear to silence the Soviet Military (and its intelligence directorate, the GRU) during a period where the Red Army, its budget, its personnel, and its material was subjected to intense and ongoing analysis by its enemies(the Communist Party and the KGB) without arousing their suspicions, or paid off and swore to silence all three factions despite the natural inclination of all three to seriously humiliate their mutual enemy;

7. and either persuaded the Soviets to destroy every record of the deal so thoroughly that no trace of it remains in now-declassified Soviet archives, even though the Soviets had never bothered to do anything of the sort before ( on the grounds that their country would endure until the end of human history and said archives would never be seen by hostile eyes), or have since bought the silence of The New Russiaas well.

I know that Mike Tyson may have torn your ear off but please listen to this. Man didn't evolve from the modern ape species we see today. We and modern aspires branched from a common ape-like ancestor. One modern specie does not evolve into another.