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Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 1:55pm On Apr 28, 2018

kenlinzo:
There is no wickedness there. The car got to Nigeria with about 1.5m. What about the money used in bringing the vehicle to its present state? I believe the seller did not even make up to 300k in this business.

The most important thing is that the buyer is enjoying his car.

Ignorance is not always bliss. What you don't know CAN hurt you.

Try not to get hung up on the pricing and focus on the deliberate withholding of relevant information necessary to make informed decisions and the deliberate misinformation and misrepresentation of damaged merchandise as otherwise undamaged by the seller.

No, that is certainly not the 'most important thing'. On that we will have to disagree.

The end does not always justify the means.

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Autos › Re: Toks 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 For Sale In Ajah Call Dhermy by Cosplay: 1:47pm On Apr 28, 2018

This is a Flooded Vehicle

Auction title Non-Repairable.

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Car Talk › Re: Gazzuzz Is A Nigerian And Not Lazy! by Cosplay: 1:38pm On Apr 28, 2018

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Car Talk › Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay(op): 1:35pm On Apr 28, 2018*

progress69:
From my understanding, they said that doesnt mean the car is bad. Like this accident i am seeing is not a serious one. I checked carfax...its about $35 to get the report. Is there a cheaper link?

As long as this was repaired to standard, it's actually not as severe as some cases I've come across. In this case a physical inspection by a trained and trustworthy professional, in addition to the VIN report, should inform your decision.

You can contact computerglobal for competitive carfax prices. His information is in the Autos Section.

Good Luck.

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Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 12:30pm On Apr 28, 2018

zadokokezie:
Pls guys where can one see the vin on a car.. I need to check my dad's car for its vin

Here, check the different thread below. Go through the pages. All of them.

https://www.nairaland.com/4475968/275-u.s-2.2m-nigeria-see

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Autos › Re: 2004 Toks Toyota Camry XLE by Cosplay: 12:26pm On Apr 28, 2018

adeniyioluokun:
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Could you respond to my questions? Thanks.

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Autos › Re: Toks 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 For Sale In Ajah Call Dhermy by Cosplay: 11:29am On Apr 28, 2018

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Autos › Re: Direct Tokunbo 2009 Honda Accord AKA Honda Evil Spirit At A Cheap Price by Cosplay: 11:26am On Apr 28, 2018

olaleks007:
I mean body has no dent. It has never be painted b4

Please provide the VIN. Thanks.

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Autos › Re: The Seller Lied To The Buyer, That's The Reason For This Thread. by Cosplay: 10:40am On Apr 28, 2018

Explorers:
Some said with my quote, the dealer is good to go, despite lying to the buyer that the car has never been touched.

The reason i came up with this.

Oh I totally get it. I just meant you may want to edit the arrangement. Perhaps have your responses in bold for an easier read.

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Autos › Re: SOLD SOLD 2007 Dodge Caliber SXT Model VIN# 1B3HB48B87D329236 by Cosplay: 10:15am On Apr 28, 2018

The title appears clean, as a matter of fact. No accidents reported.

Last reported mileage was 140,451 miles in January 2018

For the UBER viability...Gazzuzz

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Autos › Re: 2004 Toks Toyota Camry XLE by Cosplay: 10:01am On Apr 28, 2018

adeniyioluokun:
Remote Start
Leather
Alloy
V6
And more
Mileage 160k
Price 1.850M
Location Akoka yaba
NB not clean title front impact repaired
08082065553
08067635392

That's certainly one way to put it.

Did the airbags deploy? Please make the VIN available. Thank you.

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Car Talk › Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay(op): 9:40am On Apr 28, 2018

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Car Talk › Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay(op): 9:40am On Apr 28, 2018

MrFinbarr:
Cosplay please can you look up this Vin for me, please bro.

4T1BF32K85U103184

Thank you so much.

You need to obtain a more comprehensive VIN report. I do not offer those as a service but you could get in contact with computerglobal or the other VIN check threads.

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Autos › Re: Direct Tokunbo 2009 Honda Accord AKA Honda Evil Spirit At A Cheap Price by Cosplay: 9:37am On Apr 28, 2018

Could you provide the VIN for this vehicle? Thank you.

Autos › Re: Cheap 2003 Lexus Es330 Toks @1.650 by Cosplay: 9:33am On Apr 28, 2018

There's no such vehicle as a 2003 Lexus Es330.

You also have photos for 2 different vehicles. Neither of which is a 2003 vehicle.

There's also no VIN displayed.

What sort of confused advert is this Sir?

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Autos › Re: The Seller Lied To The Buyer, That's The Reason For This Thread. by Cosplay: 9:31am On Apr 28, 2018

Explorers:
https://www.nairaland.com/4475968/275-u.s-2.2m-nigeria-see

Above thread refers pls.

It's called business, as a businessman, is your money or your capital. You buy, you sell or resell at any price of your choice.

Not anybody's business but yours.

What about letting the buyer know exactly what he's buying

Can still remember the face the dealer made when the question was put him that what have you replaced in this vehicle?

Responding to the question, he said nothing, the car came into the country like that clean untouched.

I talked to some people about VIN yesterday, but they don't know it, like hearing from me for the first time and they are all car owners.

That's the reason why people can easily be deceived there.

Who am i to against salvage business or it importation

Is a business, but is all about full disclosure and letting the buyers know what they're paying for.

This vehicle had accident or flooded but has been fixed perfectly.

They walk away because of the history, some will walk in and pay and everybody go home happy.

Why advertise a car to be clean, accident free and the history says something else

Perhaps edit this post to make it clear and separate your opinions and responses from those of the individuals you quoted?

Just a thought.

Autos › Re: The Seller Lied To The Buyer, That's The Reason For This Thread. by Cosplay: 9:26am On Apr 28, 2018

wristbangle:
Egbon,

To be candid, pictures 2 & 3 are best fit to be dismantled and sold as spare parts. Perhaps the auto-dealers know that selling such cars to spare-part dealers would not bring much ROI hence the reason for repairing the damaged parts and sell such vehicles at market price.

I agree with you for picture 1. The extent of the damage is manageable. The engine, chasis and radiator are well intact. I wouldn't mind going for such type.

Your thread is an eye opener to potential car buyers and if it would cost much to buy grade A car, I wouldn't mind.

Did you realise that most Japanese cars have this issue? It's rare to see this complaints in Europeans and America cars. Just my observation though or what do u think?

Not rare, not quite. It's a question of relativity. For every 1 Mercedes-Benz C300 imported, there are 100 Toyota Corolla vehicles imported.

Certainly more accidented cases of the often cheaper, more ubiquitous Asian vehicles would present themselves.

Go through my posts and you will come across multiple European Vehicles with similar and even worse issues.

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Autos › Re: Toks 2005 Toyota Corolla by Cosplay: 9:13am On Apr 28, 2018

aonag:
Lol. This one no be accident na.. you for free the guy!

One look at this seller and his advert history.

Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 9:10am On Apr 28, 2018

Explorers:
Actually i dont really quote people like you.

You should have asked is he working with the Federal govt or state.

Is he buying from his savings alone or with cooperative loan payable in 3yrs.

For your information, he's working the federal government on Contediss 14.

In a tertiary institution where he treat mails from employees.

Not in the busary or works or where they deal with cash.

In that division, corruption is not existing.

People live salaries and loans.

You ask questions first or think before saying somethings

This is unnecessary. Cease the responses to any issues outside the scope of the underhanded sale being discussed.

Cut a path through the distractions and keep the focus on the real issues.

Autos › Re: Toks 2005 Toyota Corolla by Cosplay: 8:28am On Apr 28, 2018

Shevy01:
Super Clean,
First body,
Good Tyres & Shocks,
Fabric Interior,
Blasting Sound System,
Alloy Wheels,
Superb Engine,
Perfect Gear,
Ac Chilling,
~~Total Accident Free~~ & Lagos Cleared.

Price:1.850
Location:Ikeja
Hotline:07063578840
whatsapp:08091326403

NB:This Ride Is For Serious Buyers Only & The Price Is Slightly Negotiable.

Car Talk › Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay(op): 3:07am On Apr 28, 2018

Car Talk › Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay(op): 3:05am On Apr 28, 2018

progress69:
Bros can u check this for me?
4T3BE11A49U002317

You should consider obtaining a carfax or other form of VIN report for future purposes. It would paint a better picture of the history of this vehicle.

This comes up for a white 2009 Toyota Venza Base trim.

Has an accidented and salvaged history.

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Autos › Re: Toks 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 For Sale In Ajah Call Dhermy by Cosplay: 11:24pm On Apr 27, 2018

Perhaps you should mention that this is a Flooded Vehicle in your advert.

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Autos › Re: Sold.. Foreign Used (tokunbo) 06/07 Infiniti Fx35.. Sold by Cosplay: 11:14pm On Apr 27, 2018

Could you post the VIN for this vehicle? Thanks.

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Autos › Re: SOLD SOLD 2006 Lexus Rx330 (in Benin City). Clean Title: (Vin Attached) by Cosplay: 10:53pm On Apr 27, 2018

hrhjnr:
SOLD

Send the Perrier via Courier.

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Autos › Re: Sold! Sold!! Sold!!! For Sale Toks 2015 Ford Focus Se Sedan N5,000,000 by Cosplay: 10:17pm On Apr 27, 2018

Gazzuzz

Autos › Re: Sold! Sold!! Sold!!! For Sale Toks 2015 Ford Focus Se Sedan N5,000,000 by Cosplay: 10:14pm On Apr 27, 2018

Chpstcks:
More Photos
~~Non accidented~~

This is one reason why posting auction photos can be quite deceptive and does not paint the true picture.

Flooded Vehicle

Mileage unverified.

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Autos › Re: Extremely Delectable Foreign Used 2005 Toyota Matrix by Cosplay: 9:44pm On Apr 27, 2018

Please post this vehicle VIN. Thanks.

Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 9:33pm On Apr 27, 2018

lawman88:
Please how can I get my vehicle VIN and how can I check it online?

It's a 17 character number. Depicted are the more common locations on the vehicle to obtain the VIN.

Sometimes a simple Google search helps, but often a comprehensive report may be necessary. There are various categories of VIN reports with varying levels of details and history.

There are a couple of free VIN Autocheck threads lying around, like

https://www.nairaland.com/4452448/free-vehicle-history-cars-usa

Or you may need a paid VIN check service such as that provided by Computerglobal over in the Autos Section.

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Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 9:17pm On Apr 27, 2018

There already are, and will be, a lot of comments from clever individuals about how it's just business and how there was no wrongdoing in this situation.

There will also be comments from individuals getting hung up on the price, somehow missing the primary issues.

Those comments are hardly surprising. They abound in the Autos Section of this Forum.

Those comments and the warped rationalization prompting and fueling them are the reasons business continues to be such a risky endeavour in this society.

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Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 8:44pm On Apr 27, 2018

YorubaAssasin:
Sir, refer to my prior post.. I didn't complete it as I only booked space with it...

Anyway, my apologies for the Ignoramus thing, I'll take it off.

I really don't need to refer to your entire post, my response above covers everything else you added.

The price is not the issue.

If you read through the thread Explorers created about vehicles in the Autos Section and the thread below, you'd understand what the real issues are.

https://www.nairaland.com/4472739/vin-validation-vin-tampering-case

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Autos › Re: $275 In U.S, ₦2.2m In Nigeria, See The Clean Title Corolla Sold To My Boss(Pics by Cosplay: 8:38pm On Apr 27, 2018

YorubaAssasin:
Ignoramuses everywhere... Firstly, I need to know what you guys are complaining abt. The $1K add fee is mandatory but, not necessarily that much. It's a % of the total cost + numerous fees added up. So let's assume it's $1K... So, let's do the math..

$(275 + 1,000 + 200 + 1,200) = $2,675 * N360 = N963,000 + N500,000 (Shipping cost) = N1,463,000

The total US$ cost from what you put up there is

The slur was completely unwarranted and unnecessary. The issue here is not the price.

I had a feeling it was a similar situation when I saw your request. I just didn't know how dire the situation was.

It beats my imagination how one would witness this and the situation I described in my VIN Tampering thread and still be against the VIN being provided upfront for preliminary investigation.

The elderly gentleman, unfortunately, failed to do his due diligence, for whatever reason, it could simply be a case of poor preparation before purchasing a vehicle in Nigeria.

I have no issues with the price. The seller may choose to ask for 4 million NGN after factoring in repair costs, if he so wishes, as long as he has fully disclosed the history of the vehicle and provided the VIN. Sellers with ridiculous prices often get regulated by market forces after their vehicles sit unsold for long periods due to the high prices.

Make no mistake about it, the bulk of the responsibility lies with the morally bankrupt seller for failing to fully disclose the history of this vehicle and probably for taking undue advantage of the elderly gentleman.

Very unfortunate.

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