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dayokanu:
I think any team Dudu says is finished tops the table

Abeg Dudu pls when would Bayern be "finished"

isn't this too much for mumuface? he's been rooting for man city and guess what? man city lost at home tonight to everton. he rooted for arsenal and the gaynners lost to tottenham, man utd, west brom and chelsea. mumuface is the epitomy of failure.

man city are small time.

ronaldo and messi are anomalies. they are freaks of nature. we might not see their kind in another 20 yrs. comparing a no-mark eden hazard to ronaldo/messi is a delusion of grandeur.

dayokanu:
Why bother about duduface?

Wasnt he prancing about that man Utd is finished, yet the finished team undressed his Losers FC 7 days ago

he's even more deluded than arsene wenger. anyone rating djourou must be ill in the head. chris smalling is a better defender than djourou. man utd are finished and yet they lead the table with a game in hand. mumuface needs to see his brain surgeon.

debosky:
@ Dudu

You are like a stubborn goat. . . .always coming back for more punishment. It's pointless epistles like the one above that keep getting you in trouble.

You're building castles in the air and making silly prognostications like Hazard will have CR7 resale value. . . .on the basis of what exactly?? 

Leave aside predictions - you're so bad at it that people will make more money betting against anything you say. Just leave Nasri's name outta your predictions before you jinx the boy. 

this has just made my day. i have mentioned it once that not all arsenal fans are simpletons but all simpletons on nl sports are arsenal fans. it's so refreshing that few arsenal fans actually know mumuface is a lunkhead.

Ibime:
As for those who said the production was wack, again I say WHATTTTT!!!!

you would never know what good production is if it smacks you right in the face. m.i. 2 is the worst production i have seen in the naija hip-hop mainstream. wande coal's album sounds better and he is not a rapper. a whole m.i. that spent part of his life in the states couldn't put an album together to make sense. he should jailed for fraud.

Ibime:
Emergency services are usually responsible for these decisions, not the club itself.

emergency services my foot! how come these emergency services didn't cancel ipswich/leicester match? blackburn/west ham nko? it's an embarrassment that some bent emergency services called off a game that was meant to kick off 27 hours later. emergency services did not stop you going to work this morning, why should it stop fans from traveling to the stadium to see a football game?

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=567773.msg7376777#msg7376777 date=1292875995]As long as you conceed a game City and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man utd is not as big as a game between Man utd/Arsenal/Chelsea and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man utd. Its all good.[/quote]you kind of nailed it with this theory. the term "big game" is relative. since the pro-city group cannot categorically state a match between man utd and chelsea has the same calibre of arsenal and man city then we should just squash this argument. there are the big games and there are b.i.g. games.

OMO IBO:
Do you by any chance work for dailymail. I'm sure i read something similar on the sports page.
See Ibimi's comment above
what tube are you referring to sir.
Practically all the tube lines over the weekend were either delayed for long periods or cancelled.
http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2010/12/18/boriss-lies/

daily mail my toe-nails. ibime is high on cheap crack. what has his comments gotta do with chelsea cancelling a match 27 hrs before kick-off. i can understand all the games that got cancelled on saturday. they had few hours to kick off when the snow started but chelsea had the time to have cleared the pavements and the roads leading to stamford bridge or get replacement buses ready for traveling fans. would chelsea cancel it if it was a european game?

District line
Severe delays are occurring between Earls Court and Wimbledon due to emergency engineering work at Wimbledon

there are replacement buses. you had 27 hours to sort this out. 27 hours!

Hammersmith and city:
Severe delays are occurring due to adverse weather conditions.

the above information are for saturday and i'm sure you know know sunday was no better

sunday was better. there was no flurry of snow anywhere in london on sunday so there was time to do a bit of gritting the roads and clearing the pavement for the traveling fans. there was nothing wrong with the pitch so the only problem was the pavements and there was more than enough time to clear it. if ipswich can bear the odds to play their match then shame on chelsea!

OMO IBO:
conspiracy theories and all. . .  .Wetin we no go hear??

I wonder what difference it would've made since Arsenal cancelled there's albeit a few hours before kick off. And if im correct, they cited same reason as Chelsea's for the cancellation.

the russians bottled it. they figured now isn't the time to face a united side in blistering form. 27 hours to kick-off and roman's employees cannot clear the pavements and roads leading to the stadium. chelsea fc is in the centre of london for heavens sake, and probably has the lowest proportion of the crowd driving to the ground of any team in the country. the tube ran efficiently on saturday and sunday so what's the excuse?

HNIC:
Same here.
An aerial view on Sunday at 2.00pm

it's no secret. chelsea didn't want the match to go on. they complained to the police and the local council and the match was cancelled. chelsea pay their prima donna players six figures and yet they cannot hire extra hands to clear the pavement 27 hrs before kick-off? the pitch was perfect and this wouldn't have happened if the match was at old trafford!

mojounited:
I didn't butter your bread abeg If you think rankings shouldn't be based on current form, why are Barcelona and Man. United who both have 3 European cups currently ranked higher than Real (9), Milan (7), Liverpool (5) Euro trophies respectively Even Chelsea and Arsenal who've not won it before are ranked higher. . .When Juventus were relegated, did you check their ranking that year

the question should be why isn't inter milan on top of the ranking since you are more reliant on current form? why is liverpool ahead of inter milan in the current uefa rankings? i guess that puts tommy smith's ranking into the bin.

Nottingham Forest won the European Cup 2 times since God knows when and got relegated - Since Notts Forest has a rich history in European cup according to your analogy, are they still considered a big club till date Again, going by your analogy, so you want me to compare Notts history in the 60s (wey i never even born begin dey watch footy) to the current Chelsea side who's gat no "rich" history cos form is temporary and class is permanent and because Notts' gat a richer European history than Chelsea SMH!!

whenever nottingham forest get back to playing in europe, they will be considered a big club again. you will start seeing headlines screaming "the glory days are back". it is still in the history books that nottingham forest have won in elite europe, something no london club is yet to achieve. you cannot beat history, not even roman's billions or sheikh's mega-billions can buy forest's history. chelsea/citeh/spurs are on the verge of making history, a task nottingham forest have achieved 40 years ago.

And please stay on point - I am not insinuating that Liverpool is no longer a top club, all I'm saying is that as liverpool became a top club and made history so are Spurs and Shitty now climbing to the top to make theirs so you can't take anything away from them. . .United are on the verge of upsurging the 18 EPL titles and ending Liverpool reign as "the most succesful club in England" - it all started in one day with Busby and continued when SAF was appointed as the gaffer till date. If you think Spurs who bit Inter Milan, UCL holders to top their group and qualify for the knockout stages is not a big club now, then there's no point debating anylonger. Spurs may make yet another history if they whoop Milan's bums in the knock out stages of the UCL come Feb.

united are on the verge of overtaking liverpool but man utd will still have to win 6 champions league titles to completely put liverpool's rich history into the bin. liverpool are not only huge domestically, they are colossal in europe. mentioning spurs, chelsea or man city(who are still yet to play in elite europe) is disrespectful where liverpool are concerned. they are not in the same level at all.

If not for current events, would you have had history As a fan, current events are what keeps us going, if you think current form doesn't count anylonger then we can as well fold, pack up and stop watching the current games and start basing all our debates and arguments on our reach history which would make absolutely no sense whatsoever. . .

yesterday is history, today is making/creating history. that united tonked arsenal last week is now history. so my friend, what we actually do everytime we brag here is talking about history. dayo beats his chest here everytime because of bayern munich's history not  what they are yet to do. madrid are the most successful in the world is because of their history. arsenal are considered to be shyte cos they have no european pedigree or rich history and so on and forth. history is what makes a football club not pumping mega-billions.

duduspace:
Here comes the lackey, Go write the one for yur club if the thing vex yu.

united fans don't blow their horns. quality players don't need advertisements. keep hyping your duds, all that matters to me is 3 points against your spineless lot.

dayokanu:
Brainlessness is a dominant gene for GAYYners confirmed.

Bayern that is the BL defending champ is sliding to obscurity less than 6 months after winning. Then what can we say about a team that has been trophyless for half a decade?

BL that has the last 2 World cup Golden boot winners is irrelevant? Tell me the combined goals of all Arsenal players at the Mundial and compare it to 20yr old Thomas Muller

Can i do more harm to your senses than you have already done?

you forgot to address the legion of dud players he listed up there. theo walcott? jay-emmanuel thomas? rosicky? are these the ones to win arsenal the european cup or the league title? some clubs do really have them.

mojounited:
^UEFA rankings are based on match results and calculated coefficients of mostly European Cup Football from previous years (over 2-5 years) till present date; this makes up the total coefficients hence, the ranking - that is the only reason you have Liverpool in that position. Meanwhile, are you trying to tell me that if liverpool are 17th in the EPL they'd still be considered a top club - is Leeds United (one time runners up in the european cup finals) still a top club, is Nottingham Forest (2 times Former European Cup holders) still a top club

liverpool are a top club. if man utd relegate this season, it won't take away their history and rich tradition. when juventus relegated in 06/07, it didn't stop them from being a big club. being a big club is not racing towards the summit of the table but the history and the rich tradition of that club. man city and tottenham have no history. they will not become a big club because of coming 2nd or 1st in the league. chelsea have won few league titles recently and they don't have the respect afforded to big clubs because they have no "rich" history.

As I previously stated, Tommy's top 25 is based on current form so your argument as regards UEFA ranking is flawed; http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html - From this ranking, Liverpool is currently above current UCL and FIFA Club World Cup holders, Inter can you believe that, is that based on current form . Your statement "americans know nowt about football" is laughable considering the fact that the USA National team defeated almighty Spain and almost lifted FIFA Confed cup in SA if not for Brazil's samba footy. I am well aware that Shitty and Spurs are new comers in the top four but they now have the hunger, more strength and desire to be a top-four team and maintain this status more than Liverpool presently do - Nottingham and Leeds were once top four, it was this same Liverpool that ended their reign. . .soldier come soldier go.

thanks for buttressing my point. current form means nada. form is temporary, class is permanent. liverpool's form may be shyte but their class is far above what spurs and man city can muster in 40 years. the history behind liverpool is gargantuan. you cannot compare england's most successful club to cowboys like chelsea, man city and tottenham. liverpool can point to heysel and hillsborough. . .i doubt either chelsea or city have such. celtic is nowhere these days but they are a bigger club than tottenham or man city. it's about history not present league position so tommy smith must be on crack.

Not taking anything away from Liverpool but if anything, give kudos to Spurs and City for trying to keep up the pace with the big boys and, making it seem like a top-six affair these few seasons. . .

it's all about the money city and spurs have spent in the last few seasons. money maketh everything in the football world but it cannot buy history.

mojounited:
^@cou-gar, I quite understand your perception but unfortunately, Liver[i]poop[/i] are no more and will not be in the top four until they prove themselves worthy hence, the concept to illustrate your analogy maybe defeated in this reagard. Liverpool attained the top-four status in one season and they also lost it to the likes of Hotspur and Man Shitty in one season; this shows that the table has turned - behold, the beginning of a new Era as it may no longer be the Top-Four but Top-Six, which shows that the EPL is getting stronger and more difficult to decide from get go. Have you been watching ESPN Soccernet Presspass lately Tommy Smith's Top 25 Teams currently has Spurs and City in it but no Liverpool, wonder why The new rating is based on current form - i.e. designed to kick previous acievements out of the window. . .

PS - With Money and Better coaches at the helm of things, Tottenham and City have shown more hunger and desire to be a top-four team and maintain this status more than Liverpool has for two (2) seasons and counting. It is only a matter of time before they make it permanent. In consideration. . .until such time Liverpool decide to turn the tables around, Hotspur and City games versus the previously known top-four teams is considered a big game. QED!

liverpool will always be a top club irrespective of their league position. tottenham and city are new-comers. who knows if they would maintain at top level for a long period? no one knows. forget espn's soccernet, they are american-based and americans know nowt about football. tommy smith has no liverpool in his top 25 teams but the official uefa club ranking says otherwise so who do we believe?

Andre Uweh:
Quit being silly, how about the fans coming to the stadium when the roads leading to the stadium are not passable. The wheather prediction for match day is not good for the game to go ahead. Another imbecilic thread.

you're a big fool. yet another way in which the sport is becoming a fuckin joke. you never see a snowy pitch anymore, because if it's snowy enough for snow on the pitch, then it's too "dangerous" for anybody to try and get there. it's pathetic. i don't get how a game can be cancelled  27 hours before kick-off when the pitch has undersoil heating and it's ok. there'll be no fuckin concern about my health and safety when i have to go through treacherous conditions to get to my place of work on monday but football fans have the rights to be pampered.

stamford bridge on saturday afternoon.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/18/article-1339878-0C87C214000005DC-739_306x231.jpg

tkb417:
Still on this big game ish? *smh*

@Cougar
A big game is match when 2 closely matched teams are playing.

UTD and City is a big game cos of d derby thing and the pedigree of the players on d field. Moreso when both teams are challenging for the title.

but it still doesn't count as a grandslam game. skysports have defined some games as grandslam games and these games are the ones involving the traditional big four(arsenal, liverpool, chelsea and man utd). those are the big games.

eldee:
Aiite let me put it like this, notjustok sold Dbanj, Eldee, Unstoppable, Da Grin and all those albums and came out to say, with all the albums they've marketed, M.I 2 has sold most.
Yeah, the sites are lying because they love M.I but hate Dagrin, I see where you're coming from.

if m.i. gave notjustOK $50, they would say anything closely related to such nonsense. who is notjustOK? do they have the universal statistics of all naija hip hop albums or what is your point? so if tesco sells more ruff-ryder condoms means sainsbury didn't move more units of durex condoms more than everything tesco sold? eldee, please argue objectively. notjustOK can only comment on what they have sold. they don't speak for other online music stores.

As usual you don't know what you're saying, the deal is for the hard copies in Nigeria and West Africa . . . the internet sales are not covered, the rest of Africa is not covered, it's like you've got this campaign to make Eldee wrong, but come on Sauron, you know me too well . . . weak stuff from your 'grapevine' cannot stand next to my word.

who is sauron? are your eyes deceiving you? i am not here to campaign against eldee or m.i. i admit m.i. is a talented rap artiste and this is the more reason i am disappointed he deviated from the winning formula. if it ain't broke, why fix it?

It has sold more, at least online . . .I'm sure of that cus M.I said it.

sold more in comparison to what? if you are referring to his first album then he hasn't achieved anything cos as at the time he dropped talk about it, notjustOK were not selling naija albums then and it took m.i. several months to be on itunes. in other words, his online sales on[b] talk about it[/b] was non existent when it was hot in the market.

mbulela1:
he will be there till the summer.it is a year loan.he and Diouf (at Blackburn).

good for brucey then. welbeck has shown his worth so has cleverley and mame diouf. the future suddenly looks bright with. . . .

                    ??

rafael    smalling    ??      fabio

nani    anderson  cleverley  welbeck

       hernandez      rooney

fergie needs a goalkeeper(david de gea) and a top centre-half and the future is sorted.

eldee:
'Ask 2face, it's like toothpaste
Without your gist in their mouth it's like toothpaste
Just because say you no tie shoelace
They carry your gist around like suitcase

Ask Timaya ask Wande
They follow you bumper on Sunday
But do they yimu-yimu on Monday
If your fin boy too much they say you turn gay

If you must chop, then dey must chop
Everybody knows directions to your bus stop'

Are you being serious?? How can you say Nigerian's won't relate with this??
He went from Lil Wayne to Pidgin. . . and you say it's not more Nigerian than Talk About It??

because m.i. is such a talented rapper, i wasn't focusing on his brilliance - i paid more attention to the flaws and the line. . . . . life is bisexual, anybody can blow stood out like a sore thumb.

Mygoldie:
^^  i know u want it,but its too late hun,someone better go it already

mygoldie, don't waste time. let's do this already. i am in your neck of the woods and i satisfy all your requirements.

eldee:
Stop saying what you don't know, every big album since 2008 has been sold online and monitored. . . the people that said this are the sites themselves.
Besides it also trended on Twitter . . . M.I rigged that too??

if that is the case, kindly furnish me with the album sales of mode-9's last two albums, ruggedman and 9ice. please show me a billboard that actually says they sold xyz albums in week 1, week 2 and so on and forth. otherwise, this is just another lie plucked out of the ozone layer.

What silly businessman will put 20mil on an album if he's not sure it will sell?? You do know he has to make a profit right??

he's silly to have valued his album so cheaply. how much is 20 million naira? ruggedman's album is $10 per pop on itunes and m.i. sold the distribution of his album for pea-nuts.

I'm done bruv.
I can't argue with you about sales, you obviously don't know what you're saying if you think M.I 2 didn't sell more than Talk About It.

prove to me m.i.2 has sold more than talk about it. i hope you are not using youtube hits to determine album sales.

joxiri:
is it true this weather will remain like this into the new year

yes, and the pitiful fools in this country cannot do anything to stop it. how long will it take the uk until they realise that snowy winter is something they better get used to and prepare for it? we are dreadful as a country, it's not like this snowy winters are rarity any more, it'll be like this every winter. yet the government will take about 15 years of proper winters before they consider actually preparing for it.

mbulela1:
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i am not a hiphop head and never have been one.
As a music lover it is my considered opinion that this album is not worthy of the excessive hype.
A good album but nothing exceptional and the skits are way below expected standard.

rubbish skits you wouldn't find on the album of the wackest rapper in nigeria. if a new-comer did what m.i. did, the media would crucify him.

eldee:
Yes, it gets more street cred . . . if the streets you're talking about isn't Oxford street.
Yes, it moved more units . . . ask the sites where it broke online sales records and the guys that paid 20 mill for the rights to market his album in Nigeria and West Africa.

publicity stunts. m.i. sold his soul to one alaba merchant because he got scared of the piracy in nigeria. from the snippets i got from a reliable source, the album is yet to move 10,000 units everywhere so all those online sales records might not really paint the full picture. firstly, this might actually be the first time online record sales have been monitored in nigeria so the first artiste will naturally break a record.

You can't call a man a failure for setting his own goal and achieving it. . . this has done much more for hiphop music in Nigeria than any other album out there, yep, tell them I said it.

if the above statement is true then arsene wenger isn't a failure but of course, we all know he is. what criteria are we using here to determine whether m.i. has achieved his goal? what is his goal? has he sold a platinum yet or what goal are we talking about here? so if m.i. releases a gospel album next time, you will say he has set his own goal and achieved it all over again. abeg, this does not wash with me. m.i. failed.

gentlem80:
@Cougar

Why do u want to see my pics? If really want to see it u can kindly send yours first!!

who wants your pics? i meant mygoldie's pic not yours. my goldie is the main focus here, not you.

Mygoldie:
cougar that sounds tempting umm,

then let's do it already.

eldee:
The funniest thing is that he ticked both boxes, he addressed really difficult issues and put it in a way most people would relate.
Infact I don tire to dey preach, anybody wey no like the album make im go take ata rodo do smoothie.

that's a defeatist way of going about things.

Mygoldie:
^^ i dont kiss a guy who isn't single,sowwy.

don't waste time. it's cold n snowy. we should be cotching up now by the fireplace listening to asa.

eldee:
I taya ooh . . . my broda, even D'banj's hits are wack to these guys.

that is not the point. his debut album got him his respect from the streets. why not stick to the main plan? are you now telling me m.i. would get more respect for this album than the first album? or are you telling me this new album will move more units than his debut? you gotta be having a laugh, mate!

england is a second world country.

eldee:
I can't comment on the skits . . . and if to you, the type of skits is what makes the difference between a talented artiste and a wack one, then I can't make any more comments.

everything must work out perfect. it's an album - not jimmy jatt's jump-off freestyle. he had over 12 months to sort this out and he came up with that? let's even leave the skits aside for a moment, like i said in the previous comments, the whole lay-out was faulty. the gap between the end of one beat on track a to the start of the next beat on[b] track b [/b]was taking about 3 mins. how would you enjoy this album in a car when the beat stops then there's useless conversation at the end of the track and more useless conversation starts the next track? rappers generally put conversations/skits at the end of a song and if you are not in the mood to listen to it, the next track would start with the music. m.i. refused to follow that path. he just turned a rap album into a night of 1000 laughs cd.