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Since Watchtower leaders decided to leave that verse showing the word Grave, they went ahead to form an imaginary interpretation to explain the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man. They thought to themselves that they know better than Jesus who is narrating the story even though Jesus also mentioned the same torment in several other Verses I have quoted.

In the book "What Has Religion Done for Mankind" published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, the Jehovah Witnesses tell us the rich man is "the highly favoured, self-important religious leaders" (pg. 249, para. 7). They ignore the fact that the scriptures say, "a certain rich man."

The beggar is "Jewish remnant who hunger and thirst for righteousness" according to them (pg. 249, para. 7). This appears as an even greater blunder than the first for the scriptures not only say a certain beggar, but has the audacity to call his name, Lazarus. Why don't they (Jehovah Witnesses) accept the scripture account which says the beggar was Lazarus and not a Jewish remnant? That would defeat their purpose.

The food in the story according to Jehovah Witnesses is the word of God and the beggar was receiving only the crumbs. "The beggar received very little of the word of God but received tradition instead" (Pgs. 249, 250

Now ask a Jehovah's Witness where they got this hogwash from. Where is it in the Bible? When Jesus was narrating the story, did he provide additional interpretation to further tell his listeners that the story and characters in it are symbolic? Did he say the torment of the Rich Man is symbolic? Remember, Lazarus died, was buried and taken to Heaven by the Angels. Does this fit with their interpretation? Was the Jewish remnant as they call them dead and taken to Heaven? The Rich man also died, was buried and take to Hell. Did the highly favoured, self-important religious leaders die, were they buried and taken to Hell? Did Jesus mention that the food Lazarus was begging for was Indeed word of God? How is It that someone who had very little of the word of God made It in Heaven? You can see that this is nothing but Hogwash!

Their interpretation came from their leader Rutherford who committed so many blunders in doctrine and False prophecies. I remember very well when I was a JW when I first heard this interpretation. Even as indoctrinated as I was, it sounded like Bullshit to me. For some strange reason, the interpretation never entered my brain. It was as if there was a Blocker in my head keeping that interpretation away. I made sure to avoid discussion with non JWs that would lead to this Story because I couldn't for the life of me prove that this interpretation is True by using the Bible only. If Jesus truly gave this interpretation, we would see it in the Bible. But he never did and we as Christians must never go beyond what is written as warned in the Bible .Unfortunately, several times, Jehovah's Witnesses have gone beyond and formed imaginary doctrines out of thin air.

More below. Then look at the JW Bible.

This is the Lazarus and the Rich Man story. Here, Jesus mentioned Lazarus dying then buried then taken by Angels to where Abraham is in Heaven. While the Rich Man died, was buried then ended up in Hell.

In other translations, Hades/Hell/ Sheol is mentioned alongside The word Torment. This makes sense. Jesus is saying there is Hell and in it there is torment which explains what the Rich Man was experiencing. This goes along with Matthew 8 Vs 11 and 12. Jesus said people from all over the world would recline at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, thereby telling us many people, The Great Crowd , would be in Heaven but as for those like the Rich Man, they will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

His words here also aligns with Matthew 13 Vs 40 to 42, where It says Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, 42and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. The same can be found in Matthew 24 Vs 51 and Matthew 25 vs 30. So, you can see that the Bible has numerous instances where Torment and Hell are mentioned showing that Jesus indeed believes it.

Looking at the JW Bible, the word "Grave" was placed there instead of Hades or Hell. Why was this placed there? Because Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in Hell being a place of Torment as Jesus described. Rather, they believe Hell/ Hades Is Grave where every single person will go. They also believe that the Dead cannot feel anything. The dead are in a condition of inactivity. But their Bible below is saying something else. It says there is Torment in the Grave. This verse as shown in their Bible completely contradicts their doctrines mentioned above. So, which one should they pick? This one or their doctrines?

Whoever was doing their translation forgot to read the verse properly after fixing Grave there. As you can see, Grave and Torment don't go together. Torment makes the presence of Grave useless. I asked the JWs in this forum about this verse, if there is Torment in Grave. None of them could explain. All of them acted as if they didn't see anything out of shame . Watchtower leaders should have just left the verse as they saw it. But No. They were in a hurry to put Grave anywhere they saw Hades. When you keep doing this, you will make mistakes.

Next is Luke 16 Vs 23. Let's look at the verse in other translations.

Every other translation has the comma placed before "Today". When you translate it correctly, the message Jesus is giving is the Thief will be with him in Paradise that very day. Not in the Future.

Why is JW Bible having the comma after Today? Because they don't believe that the thief will be with Jesus that very day. This is because their doctrine states that the dead will remain in their graves until when Jesus comes to resurrect them. But Jesus disagrees with them when he stated in the 2nd screenshot John 5 verse 25 that The time is coming, and the Time is NOW when the dead will hear his voice and those who hear him will Live.. This means that Resurrection is going to happen after Death. JWS are never taught this. They don't even read this specific verse and are not aware it exists. They only read from verse 28 only.

In the JW Bible, it is saying Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise. This completely changes the words of Jesus and gives a completely different message about the time of Jesus making this statement and NOT about the time thief will be with Jesus in Paradise. The change in their Bible was subtle but big in magnitude.

Every other translation confirms what Jesus told the Thief. Only JW Bible says a different thing simply because they disagree with the words of Jesus. So, they know better than Jesus and feel the need to want to correct his words to suit themselves.

Next is Luke 23 Vs 43. This is a conversation between Jesus and the Thief he was hanged with before he died. Look very closely at the translations below and JW Bible and where the comma is placed close to the word Today. Also, look at their Kingdom interlinear and see where the comma is placed.

The JW Bible below.

Their translation shows that JWS have a very big problem with Almighty God calling his Son God. This is Almighty God confirming that Jesus is God. This should satisfy anyone and there should be no question about It. But No. Watchtower saw it as unfit to translate it as they see it. It totally destroys their doctrines. So, they decided to rearrange the verse and add a Phrase that doesn't make sense, God is your Throne. Unbelievable!

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This next one is powerful. Why? Because it came out of the mouth of Almighty God himself. He is an epitome of Humility. This verse is where Almighty God calls his Son Jesus GOD.

Will Watchtower and JWs agree with this? Let's find out. Here is the verse from different translations below.

Greek Translation and their Bible below.

So, what is going on here is that Jesus called himself. I AM, a name Almighty God also used to describe himself to Moses. Jewish people knew exactly what that means which was why they felt offended and wanted to harm Jesus for having the guts to use such term on himself. They never thought he was worthy of that. But Lo and behold, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society also joined the Jews in having an issue with It. They said, How can Jesus be I AM?. No way. What do we do? Let's change it to I HAVE BEEN. Jesus never reach that level. So, just like the Jews, JWS attacked Jesus's divinity and changed it to I HAVE BEEN. Look at the Greek translation of I AM. It is the same thing with the one in the JW Kingdom interlinear. But No. Watchtower said No o. We will act as if we didn't see that and change it to what we want.

Next is John 8 Vs 58. Look at the verse below from different translations.

The Greek translation and their Bible below. Please, do you see the word "other" in the previous translations and in the Greek translation? No. It was added to their Bible. This is the verse where the word "Other" was written in brackets in their old Bible. After they changed their Bible, the word "Other" was no longer in brackets. But fixed there as if it was always there.

If you look at their Kingdom interlinear, all things is there. There is no "Other". A note of warning: their Kingdom interlinear has also been manipulated in some verses. This particular verse here just happens to be correct. Perhap they forgot to touch It. [quote][/quote]Why was the word "Other" added? Because it needs to flow with their doctrine of Jesus being a created being. If they translated It as they saw it, the Bible will be telling them that Jesus created All things which excludes himself . This is exactly what the Bible says but they have a problem with it and feel they know better than the Bible or perhaps they feel the Bible isn't correct in this. So, they went ahead and added the word "Other" so that Jehovah's Witnesses will not be aware and they can continue the deception.

Next is Colossians 1 Vs 17. These are the renderings from other translations below.

This is the verse in the JW Bible. The phrase "a god" was placed there.

There is a history behind this. The Watchtower Leaders had no translation to back up this rendering. So, what they did is to find another kind of translation that confirms their use of "a god" to use as a reference to prove their point. The translation they used as reference is from a Roman Catholic Priest who was into Spiritism and whose wife was into witchcraft. This Priest admitted that his translation was done by the help of his wife who conducted a Seance in order to summon a demon. He said the Demon helped him to translate his Bible with ease. So, this is the only translation that Watchtower leaders deemed fit to be used as a reference.

After some years, they stopped using this translation as a reference but still maintained their usage of a god. You can see that a god was used to help diminish the divinity of Jesus.

This distortion in scripture was done because Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the divinity of Jesus even though Jesus was called Mighty God in their own Bible. I am surprised they didn't change that verse. Jesus was never called a god in any verse in the Bible. As I continue to post more verses,you are going to see a pattern. A Subtle Attack on the person of Jesus Christ.

We will start with the very famous Scripture John 1 Vs 1.

Look at the Translations below.

This thread will discuss the different Bible Verses in the Jehovah's Witness Bible called the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, that were heavily distorted/edited with words added or changed to suit their doctrines. Their Bible has undergone changes after every couple of years. I remember back then when I was a JW, their Bible was green in colour. After a couple of years, it changed to Black, some Brown and then finally to the present colour Ash. As the Bibles are changing, the contents are also but in a subtle way that isn't obvious. In one of the old Bibles, they would add additional words in brackets with a verse. After undergoing changes, the additional words in brackets replaced the word before it. This was how they cunningly replaced words in their Bibles.

There is a reason why Bible Scholars do not recognise the JW Bible. Some regard it as Not a Translation but a Doctrinal book specific to JW only. Some scholars regard it as a Mistranslation. British scholar H.H. Rowley calls it “a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated,” classifying the text as “an insult to the Word of God.” Their Bible is also not listed along with others in Bible sites. This thread will give reasons why this is so.

Below are Bible verses from Almighty God and Jesus which are warnings against Adding and subtracting from his words. Heavy Punishment awaits anyone who does this. Watchtower Bible and Tract Society completely ignored these verses below and changed any verse they didn't like. Let's get to it!

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking. How do you expect me to start chatting with someone who is calling me names simply because we differ in beliefs?
So if he ask any question and you want me to address it just quote me and direct the question to me!

Shut up your mouth. Have you ever been civil to anyone who disagrees with you in this forum? Almost everyone that converses with you calls you Mentally unstable. You with your bad record is expecting civility? You have called every single person who disagrees with you names. So, I will keep calling you Mad MaxinDhouse as long as you keep acting like a Mad person and Keep insulting people that disagree with you. When your Brain resets and updates to a full grown Adult, I will stop calling you Mad MaxinDhouse. I promise.

CaptainJune:
brother, I understand your passion to make him and his likes see the truth but calling him mad or using any other word of insult is not the way to go. We should demonstrate God's love to all irrespective of their inclinations. God bless.

So, you don't know Mad MaxinDhouse? Almost everyone that chats with him calls him Mad. Someone who called Jesus a Deceiver. He is mentally unstable. It's just that he is undiagnosed. Even some of his fellow JWs when they read his comments, they deny him because they are ashamed of his Utterances.

I have a history with him and his fellow JW miscreants and know how they get when they lose arguments. I am an enemy of theirs simply because I left their Cult and exposed their secrets. Anyone that leaves them is a bigger enemy than Satan. That's what they are taught. You can see that in the first few pages in this thread, I didn't converse with them but still they were calling me names. Try being civil with them, they will insult you the moment you disagree with them. If you dare expose their Cult, you will get insults in full measure. You don't know these people. They will be the first to rain insults on you. Anywhere I am in this forum, they are there. They follow me around. With Insults. They even mention me when I'm not here. Try having a convo with Mad MaxinDhouse. Many have done that and got the same treatment. The treatment Mad MaxinDhouse is getting is based on his record here.

MaxInDHouse:
With the highlighted we can continue our discussion now at least Pastor Courz have seen that the name belongs to the one and only true God not a demon!

Now try to be calm and specific with whatever you want to know about my beliefs.

Ask your questions one by one so i can explain whether you're OK with it or not doesn't matter to me after all there are thousands of different religions out there claiming worshipers of God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so mine is just one of them and since you can't present any that's practicing Christianity for real there's no reason to worry about my beliefs!

Mad MaxinDhouse, why are you scared of addressing the manipulated verses in your Bible? Who instructed Watchtower to do this? Satan? Do you know the message Watchtower is passing across to you JWs and the public by changing verses? They are trying to tell you all that;

They completely disagree with the Bible, God and Jesus.

They are saying that they know better than God and Jesus

They serve a different Master whose words are more important than God and Jesus. This is why throughout this thread, FxMasterz has been showing you verses but you have ignored them.

The main purpose of the organisation is to Deceive people like you.

Almighty God and Jesus have never worked with them since their Inception.

They want their members to follow them to the same destination they are going.

Aemmyjah:
All parables are real life scenarios right?
Why not say the parables of the separation of the sheep and goats to right and left is also literal

Almighty God didn't give you a Brain for it to be useless. If Jesus also believed that Hell doesn't exist like you do, he would never have used It to pass a message. He would never have mentioned the Torments and gnashing of teeth in different verses. That's the difference between Jesus and your Watchtower leaders. Look at all the parables he gave, they are real life situations common amongst people of his time. It was only sensible for Jesus to use real life scenarios to pass messages across so that his listeners could easily understand. Use your Brain and think! How can Jesus use something that is a Lie, according to you, to form a Parable in order to pass a message? For Jesus to mention Hell, he totally disagrees with you and your Masonic Watchtower. And you and Mad MaxinDhouse have shown you disagree with Jesus which makes you both Antichrist.

Be there and keep allowing a bunch of Satanists to lead you to the pit. A bunch of Satanists receiving orders from Satan to change verses to suit their demonic doctrines. You dey shame to address the manipulated verses I mentioned abi. You just did as if you didn't see them.

FxMasterz:
If they're ashamed to address the discrepancies in their Bible, it would have been better. Such shame should lead to wholesome retrospections and eventual discovery of truth. But I'm afraid, these guys aren't ashamed of anything. They're aware of the lies, they can't defend many of the lies but they've sold their souls to Satan, and must do Satan's bidding no matter what. Rather than accept the truth of the Word of God, they constantly reject it and fight against it in defence of the obviously false doctrines they're peddling about.

Gbamest. You've summed up everything. They have consciously decided to support deceit.

FxMasterz:
This is epic. Quite educative.

Makes me remember a lady who owns a big store in Ogbomoso where I went to buy materials for my wedding stuff when I was preparing for wedding years ago.

Someone took me to the store, and I was wondering how such a young lady would own such an expansive store.

My friend who took me there narrated to me that the store was originally owned by the lady's mother who died some few months ago.

She narrated that, the woman was sick, and many of her church members came around to pray for her. She was already at the point of death, and fervent prayers were being said on her behalf in the hospital.

Then suddenly, she signalled them to stop praying. She told them that their prayers are hindering her from departing to her glorious home she's already seeing afar. She told them to let her go. The prayers stopped and the woman died few minutes afterwards.

The stories told by the nurses are authentic.

Wow. They were praying for her to get well not knowing she was already on her way home. That's why she told them to stop. Wonderful. This is why I love watching and listening to Real life testimonies.

MaxInDHouse:
Pastor Courz and his friend FxMasterz won't quote this one!

Do you share the same beliefs with him? Are you not a JW again?

Explain to us why your Bible has this twisted verses below in comparison with other translations. Who told your Watchtower leaders to do this? Was it Satan? Because I know he is the only one who inspires such Fraud. Why did your Watchtower leaders decide to be Frauds?

FxMasterz, Talking about the topic of discussion, I have come across testimonies from Nurses who have worked and cared for dying patients. To prove that there is an afterlife, the Nurses said they have experienced or seen strange things while caring for dying patients. Some claim they see an entity moving from room to room. When it leaves one room, the patient there dies. They say this usually happens with patients who are not believers or do not have a relationship with God and Jesus or Lukewarm Christians or people who have lived bad lives. They say that when such a patient is about to die, they usually panic and act as if they are seeing things we cannot see or as if someone is in the room trying to grab them. It is believed to be the Angel of Death coming to take them to Hell. That's how they knew that the patient wasn't a believer or had lived a bad life. When some Christian Nurses see this , they try to pray for the patient and preach to him or her to accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. The stubborn patients will say No and end up dying in panic mode While the others that accept the prayer, give their life to Christ. When this happens, the patient dies peacefully sometimes with a smile on their face. Sometimes when a patient is in panic mode and the Nurse prays for him or her, the patient calms down and dies peacefully.

In the case of patients who are Believers who lived a Godly life, their passing is usually peaceful and when they are very close to death, they start to see Angels in the room either comforting them as they are in Pain or waiting for them to usher them to Heaven. Sometimes, the patients claim they are seeing Jesus in the room. Someone gave an experience of her mother who claimed that she is seeing Jesus and that Jesus is asking her if she is ready. Some patients start to raise their hand as if to hold an invisible hand.When she said yes, her mother died.

Why the patients see these things is because at the point of death, the Veil is lifted so that they can see what we can't see.

Aemmyjah:
What did you say earlier about Hades I quoted from the Bible

So you are speechless now. He asked you if Torment happens in the Grave, you are answering with question. You think you are smart to Dodge questions ba. What people have been saying about you JWs I have presented proof. I know you are ashamed to address these twisting of verses in your Bible. I knew you wouldn't be able to answer.

MaxInDHouse:
You're deceiving yourself if you can't present a group having that opinion Jesus formed a group and taught them what they should go about teaching others! Matthew 10:11-13

So what is the name of your church as that's what different religions call themselves today?

You want to change topic. FxMasterz, don't allow him to change topic. Force him to stick to the topic. We are discussing Hell. Who asked you about Better performing group? How can a Better performing group be Changing verses to Deceive many? Is this not Fraud in the highest order? So this is the work of a better performing group?

MaxInDHouse:
So if what your beliefs is not your concern then why bother about mine?

But you have been engaging him since. If his beliefs don't concern you, your discussion shouldn't drag to this page. All what you have said is nothing but rubbish. All the questions he asked, you haven't answered.

MaxInDHouse:
I was never a Christian until i heard of what is called "Christians Soldiers" it really sound funny because the man called CHRIST is Jesus of Nazareth who never encouraged his friends to use weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

So i kept the word to myself thinking it was just a joke but when i met JEHOVAHS WITNESSES and heard all their teachings and the way they're conducting themselves i realize that these are the real soldiers of Christ as they will sell everything they had to own a copy of the Bible {Luke 22:36} which the scriptures refers to SPIRITUAL SWORD {Ephesians 6:17} they are up and doing in the assignment Jesus gave his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} and anyone that accepts their teachings will also become a friend of peace! Matthew 10:16; Act 1:8

Do you know a better performing group than this?

Mumu, is this what he asked you? He asked you if you have done research outside everything Watchtower taught you to prove they are True and what everything they say is true, you are busy typing nonsense about JWS being the only true religion bla bla bla. What research have you done outside Watchtower to prove that everything they teach is correct? Don't you understand English?

FxMasterz:
I tell you bro. I can't imagine that an adult is behaving this way.

He reasons and acts like a 5 year old. When he sees you are right about everything but is too ashamed to back down, he takes you on a merry go round or starts singing. This is why no one takes JWs seriously. They can't really explain why there are discrepancies in their doctrines. I have posted their manipulated verses, they all did as if they didn't see anything because they are too ashamed to address it.

MaxInDHouse:
YES!

Lies! Pure Lies! That means you are an Apostate if this is really true because you are strictly forbidden from seeking for more information outside your JW website, library and publications. Why do you have to lie to prove a point?

Explain to us why in your Bible, the verses are shown this way but it is very different from those of other translations? You JWS have been accused several times of tweaking, adding or removing words from your Bible to suit your doctrine. This is an example. Tell us why Grave is in the same sentence with Torment.

FxMasterz:
I'm still waiting for his answers.

He is busy typing useless epistles about the four Horsemen when the topic of discussion is Hell. I told you he won't say anything tangible than to pour out all the nonsense Imaginations he was taught. He thinks he can dodge us anyhow.

achorladey:
Janosky aka JaNosense the werey peddling brains peddling his usual miscreants and wailings on nairaland. What is the meaning of the screenshot below found inside pure worship restored at last book

Aemmyjah, MaxInDHouse the stupid apostate peddling brains, madness and insanities peddling brains respectively food is ready.


Cc: Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron, MightySparrow. When they add this screenshot join their mode of operation. Dem dey whine us abi wetin?

Hahahahahahahaha. Jehovah's witnesses wey be drunkards in real life. Very common with Bethelites as well. That picture is just to Lie to themselves and make them feel good. How many times has Former GB Anthony Morris been caught talking anyhow while giving talks in Broadcast when drunk?

MaxInDHouse:
So why lying that you've answered the questions i asked you?

Answer his questions and stop beating about the bush! Why are you scared of simple questions? Did he ask you to start describing all the Horse men you are mentioning? Did he ask about 1914? What is the thread about? Hell. Explain to us why Watchtower went to twist the below verse. You are busy typing rubbish no one asked you. Does torment occur in the Grave?