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Joagbaje just one question do you love the truth

this is meant with all great respect some time ago you where very rude to me? and just confirming christ embassy is no place for the love of christ it is not a haven  for love and peace but thanks once again? but i would only be giving you a weapon to use against me before the war has started they drew first blood

Philippians 1:15-18
New International Version (NIV)


15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Yes, and I will continue to rejoice,

i think in time i will be helping you in the future in return thank you

thank you i know but it is not a good thing to call a man of 38 years old a "Boy" when he i has be reading the bible he become's a man of understanding i don't want to hurt you

(NIV) Proverbs14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

(NIV) Proverbs16:25 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

who think that godliness is a means to financial gain
(NIV) 1Timothy 6:4 he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:5 and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it.

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:9 People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction.

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

(NIV) 1Timothy 6:11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness,
faith, love, endurance and gentleness.


Buy
Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth and do not sell it; get wisdom, discipline and understanding.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

NIV) John 8:43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.
(NIV) John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
(NIV) John 8:45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
(NIV) John 8:46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?
(NIV) John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

(KJV) John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

(KJV) John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
(KJV) John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
(KJV) John 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
(KJV) John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

(NIV) 3rd John 1:3 It gave me great joy to have some brothers come and tell about your faithfulness to the truth and how you continue to walk in the truth.

(NIV) 3rd John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth.

(NIV) Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

(KJV) Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(KJV) John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

(NIV) John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

(NIV) Hebrews 2:1 We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.
(KJV) 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
NIV) Isaiah 59:14 So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter.

(NIV) Isaiah 59:15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The Lord looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

(NIV) Isaiah 59:16 He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to
intervene; so his own arm worked salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him.

(NIV) Jeremiah 7:28 Therefore say to them, 'This is the nation that has not obeyed the Lord its God or responded to correction. Truth has perished; it has vanished from their lips.

New International Version (©1984)
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
New Living Translation (©2007)
When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things.

English Standard Version (©2001)
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

International Standard Version (©2008)
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up my childish ways.

(what pastor chris does is copy other people work and claim it as his this is nothing more than a decpetion  plagiarism
there is many books with this title so wake up people the bible does not teach what he does

here is a few copies of book with this title
and the same teaching in it almost?

this is why the lord talks about false prohpets stealing from one another?

NIV) Jeremiah 23:29 "Is not my word like fire," declares the Lord, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?
 
(NIV) Jeremiah 23:30"Therefore," declares the Lord, "I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me.

But I would say I have a book that commands us to have none of these lies the none other the Holy Bible?
Here is a list of things and the reason why you get sick according to the this church “Teaching and Thinking” and there reasoning for being “Sick”  is this, it could be the fact that I am not “Speak in Tongues” enough or you’re not “Born Again” or “Backsliding” or your “Understanding is Lacking” in regards to the word of God, or you’re not in the “Vine” meaning “Christ” because children of God and “Zion” don’t get “Sick” even lol the “Paul the Apostle” was “Sick” which some translation call “illness” “infirmities” and others call it “Weakness” and others call “Sickness” yet he was a child of “Zion” according to “Christ Embassy” teaching yet the “Paul the Apostle” was sick?
Here is Brief History of the Apostle’s Pauls Sickness
“Formatia trans sicere educatorum” the Latin means  “Enter All Ye Who Seek Knowledge”
Here is the proof for the unlearned in the church, from the bible, the foundation of all knowledge.
Pauls Vision on the Road to Damascus

(KJV) Acts 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

(KJV) Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

(KJV) Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

(KJV) Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

(KJV) Acts 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

(KJV) Acts 9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.

(KJV) Acts 9:9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

(KJV) Acts 9:10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

(KJV) Acts 9:11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

(KJV) Acts 9:12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

(KJV) Acts 9:13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

(KJV) Acts 9:14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

(KJV) Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

(KJV) Acts 9:16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

(KJV) Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightiest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

(KJV) Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

This is where Paul got his illness from above which is  proof positive?

(KJV) 2 Corinthians11:30 If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:5 I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:6 Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:7 To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.

(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.

(KJV) 2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
(NIV) 1 Timothy 1:15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.
(KJV) 1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

(NIV) Galatians 4:13 As you know, it was because of an illness that I first preached the gospel to you.

(NIV) Galatians 4:14 Even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt
or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself.

(NIV) 1 Timothy 5:23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
-so I told her I was opposed to the church at one time, but I have been reading the “Rhapsody of Realities” and it has changed me, a little and my opposition to the teaching here, I have found my attitude that was partly wrong based and on ignorance which was partly right, I was not telling lies in that respect, i was just being careful with my words to her because of my experience in dealing with those who are part of “Christ Embassy” and sadly most of the people who are in a “Spiritual  Mouse Trap” being lead with the “Big Cheese” himself “Pastor Chris” but these “Spiritual Rodents” are being lead with the “Pied Piper of Christianity” playing the tune of deception and giving them a Gospel of lies but they can’t see the danger there in because there feed a diet of get rich quick and money is the key for liberty, mixed with a fake gospel lead through a “Maze of Deceptive” polluting of their minds with the cult of personalities in the church, giving all the thanks to the “Man” not the maker if any thanks is given on the ground with the members it is (90% per cent) given to there “Man of god” as they put it and very rarely do they give thanks to the master teacher and maker  of all things “GOD ALMIGHTY”  and the son ”Jesus Christ”  let me make clear I am not calling them “Rats” well not all of them, it is just a “Metaphor” to describe their predicament, so this is why I was on my guard with this person because I was aware of all this

he is evil this church is a worker of evil
I was not telling lies in that respect, i was just being careful with my words to these people because of my experience in dealing with those who are part of “Christ Embassy” and sadly most of the people who are in a “Spiritual  Mouse Trap” being lead with the “Big Cheese” himself “Pastor Chris” but these “Spiritual Rodents” are being lead with the “Pad Piper of Christianity” playing the tune of deception and giving them a Gospel of lies but they can’t see the danger there in because there feed a diet of get rich quick and money is the key for liberty, mixed with a fake gospel lead through a “Maze of Deceptive” polluting of their minds with the cult of personalities in the church, giving all the thanks to the “Man” not the maker if any thanks is given on the ground with the members it is (90% per cent) given to there “Man of god” as they put it and very rarely do they give thanks to the master teacher and maker  of all things “GOD ALMIGHTY”  and the son ”Jesus Christ”  let me make clear I am not calling them “Rats” well not all of them, it is just a “Metaphor” to describe their predicament.

“Formatia trans sicere educatorum” Latin and its meaning “Enter All Ye Who Seek Knowledge”

Hurt me with the truth rather than hurt me with a lie. Truth warrants respect; a lie just makes you a liar.


I can’t see the wood for the trees as the saying goes
But I like this you can’t see the “false prophet” for the false prophets around you and their profiting

this church is evil there all going to hell worshiping a man who would be god

well your right about this evil church giving all you have for the gold at the end a rainbow is a purre myth he should change the white suit to a green one pastor chris is a false prophet that teaches lies he is on the high way to hell and taking all who follow him with him like in a chain gang spiritaul slavery

it is time for you to break the chains of deceiption (mayraja)

this pastor was command by jesus to give up all his wealth yet he uses his church to grow rich robbing them making money out of the word of God this man is shame and disgrace pastor will wish to trade all this in on judgment day but it wont save him the bible say much is given much shall be asked of you he teach doctrines of devils

(N.I.V) 1 Corinthians 9:18 18 What then is my reward? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make use of my rights in preaching it.

(K.J.V) 1 Corinthians 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
2 Corinthians 2:17 (New International Version,)
17 Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God.
2 Corinthians 2:17 (King James Version)
17For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:6 I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way. 7 Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge?

ennykings
look my lost brother i was part of the church in the uk and it destroyed my life i can tell you it is a cult there is no doubt in my mind do you follow Jesus or pastor Chris not everyone there does follow Jesus some only follow pastor Chris and the two groups i was involved with where nothing sort of evil so i am not making snap judgements but I thank you for replying i am very thankful for your friendly tone that i can’t tell you is not may experience of Christ embassy

who want to go to a cult called christ embassy there evil in this church

it is nothing more than another controling point for the church to to keep you isolated from the world for mind control

you need watch your mouth you talking about christ in this way hell fire awaits you

“Joagbaje” sir you’re the reason why i am writing the book, there is no love or real compassion from the people hurting in this “Christ Embassy” only spiritual sound bites false television adverts about the so called healing school just as I thought with you did not care to really know me you just wanted to know what the church done to me and it is not about a woman is about more than this it is about saving your souls for damnation because the lord  hates idol worship and you have made “pastor Chris into a god”
“Joagbaje” I am very disappointed in you?
you gave what looked like the olive branch but was thorn bush
I bless you in the name of Jesus Christ may pour love into your heart

you have not answerd me is it a sin to remain poor

right all the good people who replied to the Christ embassy question is it a sin to be poor well pastor Chris said: “it is a sin to be poor” he said “it was not a sin to be born poor” but it is a sin to remain poor if you would like the prove he said this i will post the video for all of you?

Yes i know for a fact you’re in your cult called Christ embassy you will never see the lord until you ask for your eyes to be opened
i mean this was all out of love for you people in the this so called church? and how do you know how i am you know nothing about me the minute i speak against your false gods you defend them do i ever speak against Jesus or the word no i speak against them you’re a bigger fool if you don’t see this i love the lord Jesus and his truth that is why i come here to shed the light of the gospel to you people in Christ embassy

"mabell" please read the bible i want to ask you one question was the apostle paul a child of zion and was he sick ill  at all because pastor chris says children of zion don't get sick

soon your will change to i am sorry bother you where right this is to my lost brother who run a christ embassy church "Joagbaje"
is it a sin to be poor i ask you this

we want christ not the ministers of satan which they are?

ogoamaka99
are you saying i am reprobate in mind could you clear this up and if you are how can a man say this when you don't know me

well in church pastor said this so dont shot the messanger i am not a lier i only state what i have heard and if i have heard wrong then thank you for the correction but this is what i heard in london during church service i would never twist a statement

does no on love the truth here

what i am not admiting

this site is rubbish i did computer science and web design this so called yokoos is nothing more than propaganda machine to brain wash all the members and to cut them of from the real world, so they eat sleep and walk "pastor chris" its not even about christ its all about the man "pastor chris"

well that tells me a whole lot of your spiritual state you dont want to know truth you love darkness rather than light

could you tell me what that means as i speak plan english only

Please tell me what is great about a man that distorts the gospel and teaches false doctrine masturbation is not a sin and Isaac was not the seed of Abraham
Among man more

this church is evil it is one big lie and more keep a look out for the book