₦airaland Forum

nairalandist:
All these model wey dem use sha... LoL

lol

Hamilcar the great warrior and ruler of a truely mighty empire.
Scourge of the roman empire.
He defeated the great uncle of legatus glabar of spartacus in a famous victory.
His eventual defeat only highlights the true greatness and might of the roman empire.

citizenisb:
Who will save us from this oil curse? Côte d'Ivoire does not have oil and they are doing pretty well!!

it is relative.
cotedivoire has a smaller economy than kano state.

AZeD1:
You might want the best minds but I want the best team.

lol .
And the best team is made up of mediocre units?
I hope you guys don't get paid for these shallow arguments i keep seeing everywhere.

Obiagelli:
Now you have gone all out tribal. Onu is better because he is not aboki.

I did not go tribal.
Onu was the only credible southerner in the running for the SGF which was why i used him.
I could do the same for other appointments with more credible yoruba and SS candidates that should have been chosen.
My question still stands.
In which rational planet is a lawal better than ogbonnaya onu?
Is it in experience, credibilty, discipline, exposure,intelligence, progressiveness?
Pls tell me.

AZeD1:
Competence is just one part of the criteria and if we were to give it a score, I'd say competence takes 20% - 30% percent.
There's things like trust, ability to work together et al.

Buhari was born and bred in the north, you should know and expect that his most trusted allies would be northerners.

When should a govt sacrifice competence for ''allyship''?
We want the best minds Nigeria can offer managing the country, not bloody allys of mr president.

wiegraf:
Not saying he isn't going to Bleep up - he very well may.

But what to do if indeed he Bleep up?

Hold on. Don't jump the gun. Talk with your vote in 4 years time.

If he does indeed Bleep up and still gets re-elected, then I'll be fully with you shouting Biafra or whatever. Personally, I think you'd be more justified then.

As it stands sef, if you really want it, I am not really against secession. But weigh it properly - are you absolutely sure you want to secede?

Nigeria has the potentials of a truely great nation. The deposit of africa's best and resilient minds.
If there ever was to be an african global superpower, it should be Nigeria.
Unfortunately, we may never see it happen.

Obiagelli:
I would think a wise leader should form a caucus of credible people with proven track record and thankfully of Buhari's appointments have not fallen short of these attributes except of course the "appoint my people too" you are fighting for.

What is the track record of lawal and those other northern stooges he has appointed?
In which rational planet will you have an ogbonnaya onu available and choose lawal?
The same ogbonnaya onu that is one of the most credible and unwavering faces of democratic opposition in Nigeria.

wiegraf:
Even I, a northerner, am somewhat confused

It's starting to become too much.... Haba!

Abeg, 9ja, no too vex. Wait small first, other appointments still dey. He doesn't deliver? Vote him out soon enough

Other appointments still dey is what we have been saying since day one and yet the bigotry is getting worse.
Don't be an ostrich my friend.

Obiagelli:
Honest response pls, how many northerners do you have in your inner caucus? if you have got 10 children and you are forced to give them away, how many will you give to people outside your caucus just to make them feel a sense of belonging?

substitute the above for appointments, that is how a serious leader thinks.

And i thought you were for crediblity and the ability to deliver with proven track records and not for politics of ''my people''.
Of course, buhari has more northerners as his friends, but Nigeria's best minds are resident in the south.
It should reflect in the appointments of a so-called progressive government.

I am even sure the very few southerners he manage to appoint is just to fulfill all righteousness.
He would sack them the first chance he gets.

The most ridiculous thing i have read on nairaland is when some people even southerners imply that the best candidates are from the north.
Taking the buhari sycophancy to its limits.

Obiagelli:
You are missing the point, every elected president forms his government majorly with his inner caucus, this is what is obtainable worldwide, because he bears the brunt when his govt goes crashing same way he takes the glory of all goes well. Let the president work with those he trust to deliver his plans. he has just 4yrs.
I repeat it is a Buhari govt and not a power sharing government.

So you are telling me there are not enough southerners that are part of buhari's inner circle?
How then did he win the national elections?
You are right though. He has only four years and he better succeed with his northerners, or this country will never recover from the eventual backlash of his bigotry.
The southern power brokers are watching.

TippyTop:
Buhari as father of the Nation
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Buhari as an Igbo man
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Buhari as a Niger Deltan
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[size=15pt]After the election:[/size]

Buhari as himself:
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[size=18pt]A leopard never changes its spots.[/size]

please take down that igbo attire.
It is insulting to the igbo ethnic group.

Obiagelli:
Maybe the coach should spend/waste time finding northerners to give them a sense of belonging.

You seriously don't get the point.
The argument i have against buhari is not just because they are northerners. It is that there are far better candidates in the south and in higher numbers.
If the north had the best track record in governance, their leadership position would be justified beyond reasonable doubt albeit grulgingly.
The north is one of the worst places on earth to be a child,how can you then justify their domination of a supposedly progressive nation.?

Obiagelli:
You don't get sense of belonging by appointments, this is not a power sharing government. I respect your opinion though

Your politics are too idealistic for the current Nigerian political reality.
How then do you create a sense of belonging for a widely divided country if its leadership is irrationally cornered by a certain section at the expense of others ?

Is a lawal better than a well read ,widely exposed, first class holding , incorrupt ogbonnaya onu?

Obiagelli:
Someone just asked me how many northerners are in the super Eagles, we don't wail about because we have our best legs know to our coach.

The question is are those northern guys our best legs?
The socio-economic state of the north tells us otherwise.

Obiagelli:
All I see here is corruption, corruption and more corruption. We clamor for a transparent nation yet we harbor corrupt intention.

Worry about a united country first.
You need unity and a common sense of belonging before talking of transparency.

I would like to see ogbonnaya's demeanor right now.
Buhari just called him incompetent and corrupt, unworthy of the SGF position.

1toRtoiSe1:
stop acting like we all don't know how much of a scam that bridge is.

Even if it was the greatest scam in world history, the project is very important to the southern economy and Nigeria at large.
There are more civilized, sensible ways of trimming an inflated albeit critical project than stopping it outright.
This was the same thing he did to the jakande project, a far better administrator than buhari will ever hope to be.

Afam4eva:
Whi is talking about appointing Igbos so that they can do something for the SE. lady, do you think you're talking to keep or do you think this is a nursey rhyme session? if you don't have anything meaningful to add, don't quote. This is as ridiculous as it gets.

It is not as if the old man even has the igbo at heart.
Someone whose first duty as a so-called change govt is the suspension of the niger bridge project.
Nonsense.

A precedence have been set for future govts.
The next southern president has an easy job already.
Just appoint your people into position indiscriminately.
Afterall, that is being ''your own man''.

4Play:
I often find this sentiment profoundly silly not because I have much regard for PDP but because of what it reveals about Nigerians' lack of perspective. PDP came into power in 1999, the Nigeria of pre-1999 was an odious calamity. You often find people who either don't remember the Nigeria of those days or were kids/young at the time and had no real knowledge of the actual state of affairs then, basing their analysis on the notion that PDP is the root cause of our problem. They do so because PDP is all they have known in their adult life.

Nigeria was messed up before PDP was formed, therefore, what is wrong with Nigeria transcends PDP. This is a 55 year old country which has been dysfunctional from the beginning. You can keep deluding yourself that regurgitating political characters from the past, so long as they are not PDP, is the path to a new beginning but that is the height of self-deception. I predict that we will be dissapointed just as we have been for 55 years. In 8 years time, people who are infants or teens today will proclaim that our problem is mainly attributable to APC. We will never learn.

The only denominator between pre-1999 Nigeria and post 1999 Nigeria is a continous northern dominance of our governance.
This is just the bitter truth.
The wings of Nigeria's eagle have been clipped by the north.

ejirede:
do you really think if Buhari had picked another northerner has his running mate in the last elections,the southwesterns would have voted for him massively ?

C'mon, let us not deceive ourselves here.
Elections are over.
If the VP was not from the SW, the votes for buhari from there would have been halved.
Osibanjo had no track record in business or politics, his yorubaness won him a lot of votes from there.

Listening to many of these buhari folks talk , you would think these daurans had any form of credible track record that warrants their super-imposition on Nigerians at the expense of all-inclusive govt that has been the only reason why Nigeria has not gone off the irreversible deep end yet.
Buhari better succeed by any means possible and without fail, because he has just heaped coals of fire on his own head.
If he fails with all his obvious bigotry, the national consequences may be dire in 2019.

Don't embarrass your woman by running away.

Her problem is that she loves the guy more. Why should the guy love more?
She is definitely not serious.

wellmax:
Appointments will be based on efficiency and not ethnicity - PMB

I wish his appointees success.

Of course, only the north have efficient politicians as evident in their high rate of development and progressiveness compared to other parts of the country.

yvesboss:
Well you have a point mate, but i think the state of things in the north shouldnt rob the good minds of better things...for all i care the north produced Balewa, Sanusi, Yaradua, etc and these folks are learned and they affected their generation somehow.

I expect him to be wise though as these appointments are capable of heating up polity.

We have four years to wait and see anyway.

tunergy:
[[s]quote author=CSTR2 post=37397936]These same daurans he is installing are the ones that have turned the north into a charity case.
The larger part of north is the backward part of Nigeria without any apology.
You can't keep surrendering your national future to their control and expect to move forward.
Haven't decades of unproductive northern governance taught you guys anything?
If Nigeria will be rescued at all, it will take creative and inspirational governance.
I don't see it coming from the north anytime soon .
Ordinary basic Education for their teeming populace there is still a big deal and you expect them to develop Nigeria.
Technocrats from the south is what buhari should be looking for, not continously dipping into the pool of ancient northern politicians reeking of backwardness .[/s]


We promised change, are we not changing things?

Of course , i can see the change.
The same style of change you guys have been selling to the impoverished northerners for decades.
Jesus wept.

yvesboss:
How does appointing 100 of your tribes men move Nigeria forward?....He should appoint who he is comfortable with even if it is 1000 daura folks...so far nigeria will move forward...he has all my support

These same daurans he is installing are the ones that have turned the north into a charity case.
The larger part of north is the backward part of Nigeria without any apology.
You can't keep surrendering your national future to their control and expect to move forward.
Haven't decades of unproductive northern governance taught you guys anything?
If Nigeria will be rescued at all, it will take creative and inspirational governance.
I don't see it coming from the north anytime soon .
Ordinary basic Education for their teeming populace there is still a big deal and you expect them to develop Nigeria.
Technocrats from the south is what buhari should be looking for, not continously dipping into the pool of ancient northern politicians reeking of backwardness .