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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 3:25pm On Apr 01, 2021
afroxyz:

Likewise the entry barrier for a club is capital intensive. Thats why most footballers don't own clubs.

I don't remember proffering that assertion.
And, as an aside, not all entrepreneurs have to own land and physical plant, some trade with knowledge/skills capital.
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 3:16pm On Apr 01, 2021
afroxyz:

Thats why i outlined their achievements. They also play the same position. Using your line of argument, i guess a filling station should pay a pump attendant who adds value more money than other attendants right?

You havent even followed the line of argument.
The statement was that "a football club is not structured the way a bank is".
Draw the meaning from that.
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 3:09pm On Apr 01, 2021
afroxyz:
Sergio Ramos and Varane are teammates at Real Madrid. They are both central defenders. They are both World cup winners. They are both multiple champions league winners. Yet Sergio ramos earns twice as much as Varane. Why didnt they peg their salaries to their positions as you see corporations do? Can a bank pay two tellers doing the same job different diffrent salaries?

Obviously not.
But a football club is not structured the same way as a bank is.
Just like in film making - some players are deemed more bankable than others, just the same way some actors get bigger paydays than others .
Another school of thought has it that the players are to be classed as its assets, and we all know assets have different values.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 3:00pm On Apr 01, 2021
afroxyz:


So if Ihenacho plays for the Super Eagles he is an employee of NFF?

He's on a short-term contract of employment in that case.
A contract for services, as it's generally termed in the UK.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 2:59pm On Apr 01, 2021
afroxyz:


A footballer negotiates how much you would pay him and the period of years he would play. He even add clauses and can request for transfer if he wants to leave. If he is a free agent he pockets all transfer fees for himself. This is aside other endorsements. Does that look like the workings of an employee?

Ronaldo makes almost a $1m per tweet. He has hotels and investments. Gerrad Pique has a football club in 3rd division.

The status is dual.
In the UK, the tax authority treats them as employees.
In the EU they are generally considered employees as well.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 2:54pm On Apr 01, 2021
NL1960:


Why play for a club and collect salaries when you can form your own club and be making more money from ticket sales, TV broadcasts and betting. cool

That's where entrepreneurship comes in - you have to sell that idea to financiers or finance it yourself.
Your ball-kicking skills are only one element of the whole package.
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 12:01pm On Apr 01, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


It’s not so o. The footballer is an employee of the club. The club pays his weekly wages and then the club makes all the money received from broadcasting the football to millions across the world.

The same way Access Bank or Shell pays its staff and then makes the money from selling their products.

I know, my tongue was firmly in cheek there.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:20am On Apr 01, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:
Because there is something called specialization. We do what we are good at and get paid top money if we are good at it. The same way some people like entrepreneurship, is how some enjoy the jobs they get paid for. Why should they leave these jobs that pay them well to go and do business?

Many entrepreneurs are forced into it because they couldn’t find top paying jobs. Many of them will leave their business ventures without thinking twice if they are offered correct jobs at banks or oil companies.

Very true.
Apart from buying and selling, true entrepreneurs as you hear about in other climes are few and far between these days.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:17am On Apr 01, 2021
Donbrig:
Capital flight is one of the biggest problems facing our local currency, BDC traders are only a small fraction of the problem.

If you know the amount of dollars Nigerians (mainly politicians) are transferring out of the country on daily basis, you will know it is a great miracle we still have an economy and a country called Nigeria.


Well said.
The only reason why Nigeria has not yet collapsed is that the politicians are still sticking around to milk it dry of every last drop.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:12am On Apr 01, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:
I’m guessing well paid football players should also leave football and go and do business instead of collecting fat wages grin


Football na entrepreneurship na.
You're selling your skills in kicking a ball to millions of people across the world.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:10am On Apr 01, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:
Because there is something called specialization. We do what we are good at and get paid top money if we are good at it. The same way some people like entrepreneurship, is how some enjoy the jobs they get paid for. Why should they leave these jobs that pay them well to go and do business?

Many entrepreneurs are forced into it because they couldn’t find top paying jobs. Many of them will leave their business ventures without thinking twice if they are offered correct jobs at banks or oil companies.

And the lack of fertile ground.
Beyond the issues of raising capital, Nigeria presents more conditions to favour failure than to encourage success.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:08am On Apr 01, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


Most tenants that owe are entrepreneurs. Speaking from experience here...

Also speaking from experience. All that stuff about people who have irregular incomes in Nigeria being more likely to owe rent is not factual.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 10:56am On Apr 01, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:
For every 10 year observation of an entrepreneur doing better than an employee, there are more observations of employees doing better than entrepreneurs.

If we use observations of real landlords (not audio landlords), then employees are doing better. Most problematic tenants are entrepreneurs!

Not true.
Anyone can owe rent.
Even persons on regular incomes from salaried employment owe rent too.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Cyberknight: 7:51pm On Mar 30, 2021
MercyBA:
Good evening house, please am applying for tier 2 visa soon I want to know if I can use my parents statement of account for the first month fund,or it has to be my own personal account.

You should use your own account.
If you've gotten a job in the UK, surely your parents can transfer the naira equivalent of £1,270 into your account for 28 days?
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 2:05pm On Mar 30, 2021
emmanuelewumi:


If you have $1 million in four bank accounts, how much will you get

If you have $1 million in 4 bank accounts in different banks, e.g $1 m in Zenith, $1m in GTB, and so on ($4 million?), you will get $250 x 4 = $1 million, if all 4 bank accounts are held with 4 different banks all of which fail.

If you have $1 million spread among 4 different bank accounts with the same bank (e.g $250k in a current account in Zenith, $250k in a savings account in Zenith, $250k in fixed deposit account in Zenith, etc.), if that bank fails you get $250k only.

Note that a deposit guarantee is just a means of immediately providing depositors with money to keep them afloat until after liquidation, when they will receive shares of the liquidation proceeds proportional to their deposits.
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:48am On Mar 30, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


250k is maximum insured. You can get more depending on how much is raised from liquidation.

Correct.
Provided sharp - sharp in civilised countries, we all remember 2008.
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:30am On Mar 30, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


Exactly. There’s a book on his exploits. Barbarians at the gate...

No, Barbarians at the Gate is about KKR and the tobacco company they did an LBO on and sunk.

Miliken was involved in the S&L deregulation debacle, there's another book about his activities, whose name I can't remember just now.

Edit - I googled : Inside Job is the name.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:17am On Mar 30, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



SEC does not allow junk bonds in Nigeria. The conditions are very stringent in Nigeria. The bond Market is over 40 years in Nigeria and there is no report of any that went bad, I think that is highly commendable.

Pension fund managers came to scene about 15 years ago

More's the pity, maybe that's why SMEs are forced to rely on rapacious banks and FFF (family, friends and fools).

They should allow high-yield paper issues, maybe limit uptake to institutional and not retail investors.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:12am On Mar 30, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



That is the highest they can get


Will also be prorated. Those will $1000 might get $500, those will $10 million will get maximum of $250,000

I don't think deposit insurance is prorated.
If you have $1000, you get $1,000.
If you have $1,000,000, and the cap is $250,000, you get $250,000.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:11am On Mar 30, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


Please have an open mind. Not all corporate bonds are secured and not all are senior.

Corporate bonds are not failing because in Nigeria, the bond investors are typically pension funds that can only invest in investment grade bonds.

Do you know there are high yield investors that invest in the subordinated instruments of high risk companies in Nigeria that people do not hear of? If these high risk companies fail, you won’t know na.

In developed countries, there are some investors that specialize in investing in only junk bonds. They may lose money in many investments of companies that go bankrupt but when they clean out, they clean out big time.


This is true.
Junk bonds generally pay above-average yields, so if your appetite for risk is high, there are deals to be found.
Remember Michael Milken and the legalised scams he perpetrated at Drexel Burnham Lambert in the 1980s.
Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 11:08am On Mar 30, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



So a business that has 1 million pounds will get maximum of 85,000 pounds

Something like that yes.
There are also some exceptions which I don't remember, something along the lines of specific deposits getting full coverage for 4 to 6 months, etc.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 10:56am On Mar 30, 2021
emmanuelewumi:


Kindly Google the liquidation of a bank. Bond holders are secured creditors and will get 100% of their funds, depositors are unsecured creditors and can't get 100% of their funds. It is maximum of 500k in Nigeria

Just to clarify, deposit insurance is different from the priority of secured creditors.
In principle, the government through NDIC provides a guarantee and is supposed to pay all depositors up to that fixed amount irrespective of whether the bank's liquidation proceeds can yield that much.

As an aside, in the light of current nairanomics, 500k is a ridiculous amount, less than 1,000 pounds. In comparision, the FSCS guarantee in the UK covers up to 85,000 pounds per depositor per credit institution.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Cyberknight: 1:37pm On Mar 26, 2021
Tmeegal:
Please does anyone have a contact phone number of TLS Ikeja ??They take forever to reply emails .

They don't have a phone number.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Cyberknight: 9:48pm On Mar 24, 2021
Maiyakz:
Hello Guys,

Hope you are all doing good?

Am filling out a dependant visa on my 'Tier 2 work visa' for my wife. As an evidence from my bank to show financial support for her do I need to just show am paid enough to take care of her while here i.e. payslips and bank statement? or should it be a savings of a substantial amount? Will either of the two be okay?

Your response would be appreciated. Thanks smiley


https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa/your-partner-and-children

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Cyberknight: 9:43pm On Mar 24, 2021
goryorhal:


You have any idea of which card i can use ??
Thou i just recently got the card and haven't use it before ........

Call GTB to activate the card.
If you've done that, you should see a separate Mastercard/Visa account in your internet banking profile. This account is for your card alone and is separate from your USD domiciliary account.
Transfer money from your USD domiciliary account into that account using your internet banking.
If you don't have internet banking, then you will have to go into a branch to do it.
Then use your card.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 2:19pm On Mar 23, 2021
budaatum:


After four months of relative calm, the Turkish lira is once again doing what it does best: slumping against every major currency. It nose-dived 17% overnight to near all-time lows, hitting 8.39 against the dollar and 9.97 against the euro before recovering later on, ending the day down over 7% against the dollar, amid concerns that the central bank and state-owned banks cushioned the fall by selling dollars into the market, thereby further depleting Turkey’s already scarce foreign currency reserves. The lira has lost half of its value since its currency crisis began in 2018.
https://wolfstreet.com/2021/03/22/after-shock-awe-rate-hike-turkeys-central-bank-governor-gets-sacked-and-all-heck-breaks-loose/

Nigeria will soon join Turkey and Argentina in the multiplicity of ultimately futile central bank currency interventions.
It's a question of when, not if.
The only prayer is that we don't join another list of countries - the one that contains Venezuela and Zimbabwe, but with Emefiele and Buhari doing the thinking, I'm not holding my breath.

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Investment / Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cyberknight: 2:13am On Mar 22, 2021
ojesymsym:
Thanks for your feedback.

The common denominator here seems to be Medina Estate. Someone mentioned Yetunde brown also, how does it rank compared to these?




Yetunde Brown is "deeper" inside Gbagada and the access roads were bad (no idea if they've been fixed), been some years since I was there, knew someone in that area, who later moved.
Medina Estate is closer to the main roads, you just exit the main gate and you can quickly link either 3rd mainland or Gbagada Expressway.
I would take Medina Estate over there. Medina also has excellent security.

There's also an estate called Millennium Estate, which is also excellent in terms of security, but it's only slight disadvantage is location, it's after UPS on Gbagada Expway.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Cyberknight: 4:15am On Mar 21, 2021
hosey:

A freind currently in the he UK just got a job in the health sector and they are asking for Criminal history in Nigeria which can be proofed with police clearance.

How can he obtain the form for police criminal record for CRB? Does he need to come to Nigeria?

Thanks.

I see someone has posted the CRB website and no he doesn't need to come to Nigeria.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Cyberknight: 3:41am On Mar 21, 2021
justwise:


I totally understand the issue here but this is my problem.. why should Nigerians have to contact a govt official privately to go job done?

Why can't this be done openly for everyone that needs such service? The more we keep referring people to this official privately the more he will abandon his official responsibilities for side deals.

I see where you are coming from, but the point is that the CRB process, to the best of my knowledge at the time, works that way.
The first time I got one, I was still in Nigeria. I went down to Ikoyi myself, and when I got there, I asked them what to do and I was directed to an office where I met one chap (not the guy who was extensively advertised on the Canada thread) who took my fingerprints and a copy of my passport and gave me the form to fill. He then told me a price (6k or so, can't remember), told me it would take about an hour, and then we went through the process, they issued me the certificate.

So when I was outside Nigeria and I needed another one, I simply contacted him again, and he told me to download the form online, get a stamp pad and place my fingerprints on it and send a photo to print out along with a copy of my passport. I did that, and scanned it to my cousin, who printed out the form and photo and took it there and the PCC was issued.

Given that the process I followed from the UK was the same process I followed when I was in Nigeria, I have to say that there's no "encouragement or fostering of corruption there", because it was exactly the same thing. I didn't pay anything to facilitate or queue-jump the day I went to Ikoyi myself, I went there early in the morning and was the only person in their semi-furnished office for the whole hour or so I waited. I am well aware that like many such processes in Nigeria out of the 6k I paid the first time and the 7.5k I paid the second time, probably less than half of it went into government coffers, but that's the way that particular system has been programmed to operate and I don't see how that can be circumvented unless you don't want the PCC.

To the best of my knowledge, there is (or was 2 years ago) no online PCC portal, no Remita or official paypoint where you go and pay only maybe 2k or so and get an official receipt then go and demand issuance of your PCC from the police at that price, no such thing. It's totally different from the passport process for example, we all know how that works, I was impressed when I read here that you can go online and pay the official fee and then go and demand "capturing" and issuance of your passport as opposed to just paying an amount way above the official fee to get one ASAP with as little hassle as possible which has become normalised. We all know the difference between the two and the second process is to be discouraged.

If I needed another, I would follow the previous process I went through again, which is definitely official because it's the exact same process I would follow if I were in Nigeria and had gone to their offices myself and your presence is not needed for a criminal records check. I see it as being akin to having another passport issued for countries who do the passport issuance process by mail for their citizens residing abroad.

A previous poster mentioned something about a 100 quid fee for Nigerians abroad to get this done. I didn't know about this before, but that's a shitload of money and I see that fee as simply being the usual extortion the government applies to citizens abroad with the mindset that they have money to pay, and do not see anything wrong with saving myself money by following yet another official process.

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Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Cyberknight: 2:46pm On Mar 19, 2021
FieryJoe:
Thanks. Please what is the link to fill the form for Police clearance. I learnt I can as well submit from my state Police Headquarter.

You don't even need to go to your police HQ.
The central records are at Alagbon, Lagos, and its the people there who issue police clearances.
Ask around, you can get someone's contact details (or check the Canada thread here on Nairaland), then you just fill the form, fingerprint and scan and send it and a passport photograph by email and they'll send back the PC to you.
I got one that way a couple of years back, 7k or so.

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Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Cyberknight: 2:37pm On Mar 19, 2021
Olorunfemi101:
Thanks. I wish to know if there is expiration to it and also, will my partner have it done too please, maybe not for the school purpose but for Visa application?


The certificate expires after 6 months.
Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Cyberknight: 2:35pm On Mar 19, 2021
solalal36:
Hello, I recently got a conditional offer for postgraduate admission. However, one of the conditions is to "provide satisfactory documentation which evidences reasons for gap in studies".
This is where the problem lies.... I graduated in 2018 and finished NYSC service year in October 2019. I have documents to prove this.. I got a small teaching job January 2020(no appointment letter, no documents at all), three months later, Corona pandemic came and when schools resumed, the owner closed down the school(Mental breakdown). So, I haven't been employed since then but I have been tutoring university applicants. Please, how do I provide documents for the last one year.
NB: I gave this info in my personal statement..

cc justwise

Give them what you have, and if they dont accept it, then try elsewhere.
Application to universities in the UK is generally free, and they want to get you and your money.

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