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You asked two questions. Before I answer I have two questions 4 ya:
1) Can you read anyone's mind?
2) Do you know anybody who has never changed?

Readerr:
Trump will win mark this

My prediction too and I don't necessarily want it that way

There are a lot of people who don't like Trump.
But there are not enough people who don't like Trump to the extent of voting for Harris

opicgif:
It's good you know that it can attract tourism

I actually understand your point
The government is bloated and should actually be downsized

But eradicating a traditional institution that in some tribes have been there for centuries is absolutely not wise

Already, there are Africans, studying African history and culture (including Nigerian indigenous languages) in USA!!!!

These useless Kings you talk about, as of today, remain the custodians of Nigeria's culture

They don't have to be in government (I agree with you 👍)

Should they be discarded as you suggest (absolutely not!)

The time has already come, that Nigerian children, born in Nigeria, will travel abroad, to see Nigerian masquerades

Custodians of which culture? So places without these "kings" don't have culture? Anyway, they can stay all they want just don't mixed them into governance or in any way pay them from national funds - just as in separation of church from state.
In my opinion it is ridiculous to have "kings" same time you're trying to build an egalitarian, democratic society. When relics of the past are expensive and at same time don't contribute anything to what we're trying to build, we ought seriously ask ourselves if they're worth having

Ibrahimado:
1) She save all her contact in her email, and her email is log into my phone.
2) I don't have such intentions to reveal her secret to my family or her
3) I'm not considering divorce but ways to hand it more efficiently and maturely. She is a lovely wife every man can wish for but it hurt to know your wife reputation is stained.

MAKE 100% SURE SHE ACTUALLY DID IT.
People who steal don't steal only once

We should do well to get rid of these useless institutions. They're part of what's holding Nigeria back. China was backwards till they got rid of all the nonsense

A big CORRUPT mess.
They take pay-offs and sentence someone to 20 years. That's what the headline will say. Then hidden at the end is that there is an option of 20K fine (meaning the person can pay 20K fine instead!)

Usmanovic95:
If you read what I said correctly, you will definitely infer that all i talk about happen in the past. Those days football had me grinding my teeth, increase my heartbeat and have me at the edge of the seat. Now I watch football just to unwind. I can't even recall the last time I watch arsenal game live on tv, it's been highlights and reels.

Which is why my first response to you is "na lie". It is simply not human nature. Unless you completely stopped paying attention. Even US presidency that doesn't concern you at all, you'd be happy if a particular candidate wins.

Almunjid:
Every form of government has pros and cons. I know monarchy isn't perfect, but I think it's much better than democracy. What good has democracy done for us, other than replacing old thieves with new ones every few years? Look at the recent dealings between Tinubu and the IMF—that's democracy for you: the West using it to install their puppets and control us. Furthermore, Democracy makes it almost impossible to appoint the right people, because politicians just reward their party members and friends who helped them rig elections with political appointments.

With a monarchy, most positions would go to competent technocrats instead. Just take a look at countries with monarchs—they've managed their resources way better than we have. UAE discovered oil later than Nigeria, yet they've made so much more progress unlike Nigeria. The contrast is striking: UAE was "mostly desert" in 1956 when oil was discovered, yet has since developed significantly, whereas 68 years after oil was discovered in Nigeria, the country has regressed, becoming "worse off than a desert"—all thanks to your so-called "democracy" which allows mostly uneducated Nigerians to elect greedy and clueless leaders and their group of thieves to steal from our treasury and mismanage our resources every 4 or 8 years unrepentantly.

Moreover, most leaders the West calls dictators or monarchs simply rebel against Western control, making it harder for them to exploit us. I don't need to give you examples—you probably already know. That's why the West pushes democracy on us—they fear losing their grip. They won't lift a finger if we're dying of poverty, but the moment a coup or dictatorship happens, they'll jump in, claiming "human rights violations."

Lastly, Monarchy would also stop us from killing each other every 4 or 8 years during elections. I respect your opinion, even though I don't share it. I just don't believe in democracy. Even if we don't adopt a full monarchy, granting monarchs constitutional roles would bestow a sense of honor and inclusivity upon them. After all, even the UK retained their monarchy; why shouldn't we? Nigeria shouldn't blindly emulate the West—instead, we should adapt systems that fit our culture and unique needs. That's why I believe the governors' move is a positive step in the right direction.

Peace!

I appreciate the erudite way you've stated your position. You're, however, mistaken as to the full implications of a dictatorship. Certain things are worth more than money. You can call Tinubu a fool as much as you wish and have full access to the internet and uncensored news and views from all over the world. That's not possible in China and Russia (though they hold elections!), not to talk of North Korea. I'd even say Nigeria's president is waaay too powerful. We've only been lucky so far. The wrong person can use control of INEC, Army, Police, to put his stooges in, effectively making himself president for life.
As for the governors, they are TOTALLY wrong.The last thing Nigeria needs is more government - another bloated, money-guzzling chamber. What we ought be doing is working to eliminate one of the current two chambers!

Callosobruchus:
Did the father survive?

The father is alive. Which is why thorough investigation must come before anything else. It'd be a whole different matter if the dad were dead

idahme:
Stop this nonsense narrative of when a man is killed he must have done something to warrant his killing. People like you are the type who cheered the lady who just killed her boyfriend because the dude doesn't want the relationship anymore, to you he must have done something to warrant his death.

Have you ever asked this nonsense questions when a dude kills a lady? Do you alevrr justify the killing his f ladies by men when it happens? So why this nonsense narrative that men who were killed are the reasons for their death? Stop this nonsense societal stigma and narrative on men.

Condem acts that are antithetical to society development irrespective of the gender whose ox is gored. In so doing these nonsense stereotypes and prejudices will be eliminated leading to more sane critically asserted thoughts.

idahme:
This is same problem I have with these men, same men would assume a lady has done something wrong to a man who kills a lady but keep giving excuses for ladies who unalive men saying the men caused their own death. This is pathetic and these men are all over the society

The girl is guilty give her same treatment to serve as deterrence to others.

Her father is NOT dead. It'd be a different matter altogether if her father were dead

Usmanovic95:
Lol 🤩Have we met before, either in this present life or past life for you to state this as a fact about me. I love Messi for his talent and also as an arsenal Messi has hurt me in the past when he humiliated my team. But now I cant remember the last time I watch a live football.

I have never met you but I know human nature and you're a human being. You even displayed it right here. 😆How can Messi hurt you?! Something that doesn't concern you nor has anything to do with you whatsoever! Neither Messi nor Arsenal knows you exist nor gives a rat's ass about you nor will ever give you a penny if it'd save your life!

Usmanovic95:
How the Bleep do people get so emotionally attached to football.At this point of my life,I see football as pure entertainment, nothing more.

Na lie. Say you're a Messi fan and wish he finally wins a world cup. Messi doesn't know you and won't give u a penny but you'd be depressed if he doesn't win

ElSudani:
Must our own monarchies be exactly like in foreign lands? Olodo.

No, but when something obviously isn't working you find ways to pull away from it NOT try to codify it. You can also learn from the Chinese who had proliferation of dynasties and never saw progress until they abolished such nonsense.

CaptainJune:
I sincerely hope this is true. Both father and daughter should be thoroughly investigated.

Of course the father is not dead.
Exactly what I was saying - to the extent of a small girl wishing for death

Almunjid:
I'm not a democrat; I'd prefer a monarchy or technocracy. Are you suggesting that governors should have the power to enthrone and dethrone our monarchs at their whim?

I'm suggesting we ought be working towards there being no "monarchs" to enthrone and dethrone - which is what China did that helped them a lot. But I know I'm wasting my time - Nigeria seems cursed.
If you want a dictatorship or monarchy, work towards it - not a whole bunch of "kings"!

ElSudani:
Only a slowpoke would not know there are monarchies even absolute monarchies that are doing better than Nigeria.
What is being discussed is probably above your pay grade.
A constitutional role for traditional rulers does not in any mean the country will revert to pre colonial status. You are just ranting out of ignorance.

I don't want to call you a BLITHERING IDIOT!
You were told to mention a country with a bunch of "kings" thats doing great and you're yanning monarchy. Do monarchies have a bunch kings??Idi...!

Kobojunkie:
Um..yeah.... that does not say the father didn't die though. 😏😏😏😏

It actually literally does. In Nigeria "he wan kill him papa" means his father is alive

Kobojunkie:
He is not? How do you know this? Where is the rest of the story, please

You people don't listen well. "She carry poison give im papa MAKE IM PAPA DIE". They and the headline would have said she killed her father with poison

Almunjid:
This is a good move in the right direction! But I'll really take governors seriously when they give monarchs enough power so that they [themselves] can't just dethrone them whenever they feel like it.

And this one will call himself a democrat

ElSudani:
A beg shift. You think I have the time for a silly argument?

Who is arguing with you. Only an idiot doesn't know there is no country with a whole bunch of kings doing great. None

madridguy:
I have no business asking her that. She killed her father and deserves same treatment. Men like you are the problem we are facing in Nigeria. I'm sure if you have your way, you will tell the girl to lie that her father have been molesting her hence she poisoned her.

Her father is NOT dead

opicgif:
UK has a king

A King! Not a whole bunch of useless "kings"!
UK is a monarchy, Nigeria is NOT! And they're even trying to abolish it, but for the tourism money it attracts

CaptainJune:
Great. Now whatever the girl says that warranted killing her father is truth in your opinion because the father cannot defend himself.

How about those little female househelps that were caught trying to poison the family food, did they have any justifiable reason for their attempt to wipe off the family that employed them?

I'm not making any hasty conclusion but taking sides is a no no and there is no justifiable reason for taking the life of a person where it is not a matter of self-defense in the face of threat to life.

Her father is not dead

ElSudani:
What arrant nonsense.

Like I said,
QED

ElSudani:
There are many, all you need to do is simply Google search.

Already knew you couldn't
QED

madridguy:
Nothing like assault here. Let them torture her very well before handing her over to the police. She is murderer and deserves no pity and human right treatment.

Do you ask at all what her father might have been doing to her to warrant her wishing for death? Have you considered asking that question at all?

sammirano:
Na Person say make you no get king

Unlike you I'm smart enough to know that our king is king ONLY because of atrocities and subjugation of my ancestors perpetrated by his ancestors, and instead of being punished for sins of his fathers, he's made king! This life no balance

Topman7:
Mr Oyinbo, BOTSWANA is one of Africa’s best governed, most prosperous, and stable economies, and has been so for decades.

Guess what distinguishes them from other African nations?

They have a House of Chiefs, who are traditional rulers acting as their peoples’ representatives by constitution, right up there as another arm of the govt, alongside the National Assembly, House of Reps, Senate, etc.

Unlike you mentally colonised people, they do not shun their heritage and worship everything white.

They are a proud African people who have decided to do the right thing, by marrying their rich cultural heritage to modern governance systems in a way that enables INCLUSIVITY and grassroots representation in decision-making at the highest levels of government.

That’s EXACTLY what we need in Nigeria.

You called me Mr. Oyinbo, I don't want to call you MR. IDIOT! So you think Nigeria will be better off if we add another bloated, useless "House of Chiefs" to our already bloated, money-guzzling govt? It is people like you that prove to me this country is truly cursed and is simply irredeemable

ElSudani:
What about countries that are doing great with them?

I gave examples. Give yours

akigbemaru:
Chinese with proliferation of dynasties never saw progress until they abolished such nonsense. In modern era, there should be no power for traditional rulers in Yorubaland except if they want to abolish democracy for monarchy and it would be 2 steps forward to 20 steps backward. Blacks don’t not reason well and one of the reasons we are at the lowest ebbs of all human intelligence.

Exactly! Institutions they should be discussing ways towards ABOLISHING them. Seems this country is truly cursed.

ElSudani:
It is absolutely not a useless institution.

A whole bunch of countries Nigerians are dying to japa to are doing great without them.
I bet u if China, US, UK, etc had a whole bunch of useless "kings" they won't be doing as well as they're doing