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The 1980s sitcom that predicted Gaddafi's Death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lw2tRvTmVM
The predicted date was 29th July 2011
His death was off by less than 3 months.The prediction was almost spot on
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Joagbaje:
¹Prove me wrong.

Jesus began his ³ministry at the age of ⁴30.

⁵After he received the holyghost.

Do you have contrary ²information from your bible ?

Prove me wrong?

¹SMH at the smugness

²Would rather offer go well together information

³Jesus had always been in ministry; albeit it was in private capacities

And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me?
wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? - Luke 2:49

⁴God being a God of order, was complying by the rules.

so Jesus had to wait until 30 for public ministry

All the men between thirty and fifty years of age who were eligible for service in the Tabernacle and for its transportation - Numbers 4:47

⁵This is a model. God demonstrating and revealing that His businesses are carried out aided by the Holy Spirit

Jesus never did anything without the Holy Spirit unlike Adam/Eve that surrendered to the flesh

He depended on the power of the Holy Spirit for everything throughout His ministry

He grew in wisdom and stature. Found favor with God and Man.

For public consumption, the Holy Spirit at 30 was seen descending upon Him.

Be attentive from the 4.22 mark onwards for the advice(s) for someone visiting Lagos (i.e. Eko)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK43iAg9p1w
Fela Anikulapo Kuti - Eko ILE
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Deep Sight:
Can you remember being dead before?

Daiquiri:
^

Oh yeah! Lost count

The experience? Mostly blissful, the odd ones almost shat myself.

Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi
7th June 1942 – 20th October 2011

Such is the brevity and fragility of Life

They die suddenly in the middle of the night.
People have seizures and pass away.
Mighty people are taken away but not by human hands. Job 34:20

kokoye:
Lust is stronger.

See how far people are going to get the money and power to catch men or women and obtain temporary satisfaction.

Lust also drives the ecomony whether we like it or not.

True love is almost non-existent but lust is here to stay forever.

Uyi Iredia:
and the winner is . . . . Lust.

^
Media Tabloids Society drives people crazy with lust and calls it advertising - John Lahr

Beync:
@Daiguiri, this is the 2 Timothy you quated;

7. I have fought the fine fight, I have run the course to the finish, I have observed the faith.
8 From this time on there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me as a reward in that day, yet not only to me, but also to all those who have loved his manifestation.


The wrestling bible talks about is not a physical one. [/b]Note, Ephesians 6: 3-6, finally go on acquiring power in the lord & in the mightiness of his strength. Put on the complete suit of armor from God  that you may be able to stay firm against the mechanism of the devil, because we have wrestling not against blood and flesh but against the govts, authorities, and the world rulers of this darkness,,,,,.
[b]The bible is in no way encouraging us  to prepare for physical fight as is been practiced today. The wrestle is a spiritual one of which paul knows that the children of God are going to face attacks from the devil hence the need for us to equip ourselves like a spiritual soldier. “ On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God. Therefore stand with your loin’s girded about with truth, and having the breastplate of righteousness and with your feet shod with equipment of goodness of peace. Above all things, take up the large shield of faith , with which you will be able to quench all the wicked burning missiles’’,,,,,,…,
It is no doubt that we need physical exercise for our healthy living, enhance emotional health, mental alertness, balance flexibility, development of strong bones, muscles and for prevention of ever weight and obesity. However, the origin of so many sports activities, the spirit of competition associated with the world sportst is something one should dig into. As someone has rightly said

From what I can remember concerning Greek mythologies, the running athlete carrying a burning torch in today's olympics is symbolic with the tale of promotheus who is said to have stolen fire from the eternal burning altars of Zeus and his wife Hera. Fire was a symbol of eternity/life in those days. I know I'm deviating right now but everything from the olympics,"christian festivals, days of the week/months and even a lot of practices done in church today ALL have idol worship backgrounds


Sports activities has to be fun partaking, focusing on the enjoyment and benefit of staying in healthy and good shape, but in world sports, winning is everything, this creates an environment where the venerable suffers. It it very low to maintain a balance view of winning and losing in competition. The bible calls unbridled rivalry “ vanity and striving after wind”
World Sports tend to fuel unhealthy spirit of competition

[quote author= plappville on October 17, 2011, 08:49 PM]Just want to know if its against the biblie for a christian practising sports like Judo, Wresling, Boxing etc.
I ve not come across a verse yet but someone told me, they re not a biblical surported.
What do u know about this? your views are needed plz.[/quote]^

First, please without flying off on a tangent, point out to me from plappville's quote above where Olympics was mentioned

Is sport all about Olympics?

I do a few sports, just for leisure or pleasure

Secondly after finishing joking about Isaac sporting with his wife Rebekah

I not only said "Also on record that Paul fought a good fight (i.e. possibly boxing) - 2 Timothy 4:7"

but also said "Judo or Wrestling mentioned in the Bible - Genesis 32:24"

You hammered on 2 Timothy 4:7 but conveniently gave Genesis 32:24 the cold turkey

The bible is in no way encouraging us  to prepare for physical fight as is been practiced today?

However, the origin of so many sports activities?

OK, then how did Jacob later to be known as Israel develop a limp?

Who was Jacob wrestling with?

Who dislodged Jacob's hip during the wrestle?

"olympics,
"christian festivals,
days of the week/months
and even a lot of practices done in church today
ALL have idol worship background"

Hmm-hmm.  Welcome to "Sasha Fierce's" world

Deep Sight:
You should refer this question to experts on physical spiritual bodies -

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-429593.0.html

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Not sure about the expertise tag but you'll surely glean a thing or two if not an avalanche or more from the link

frosbel:
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Loving that signage

- DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

Deep Sight:
Can you remember being dead before?

^

Oh yeah! Lost count

The experience? Mostly blissful, the odd ones almost shat myself.

SeonB:
 they truly deserve it. 'A pedestrian bridge somewhere' , '20naira later',

and dat stationary dude were my favorite highlight[/b]s

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What more can you expect from Gbenga Salu - extraordinary creativity & talent

[b]The stationary dude is actually mimicking Chief Obafemi Awolowo throughout the video with that pose or stance

He is copying the Chief Obafemi Awolowo statue raising its hand in air in the background

at Allen Avenue Roundabout, Ikeja, Lagos (i.e. statue is first shown at 0.28 mark)

harakiri:
@daiquiri,

The thread hasn't gone far so it's still easy to follow through. Did you even read before commenting?
The OP asked about bible and sports. Now most sports commonly practiced today have greek origin and from what I said, JeSoul wanted me to shed more insight to the benefit of everyone. Why can't you people learn to read before commenting? Is the olympics not a sporting event? Don't Christians participate in the olympics? Is the any sporting event illustrated in the bible?

Kai! Na wa 4 d pipo ooo!

^

and not sporting event or olympics

Keeping to the OP's question and scope was deliberate

Too many liberties taken or assumptions made

Interesting how OP's practising sports has now turned to competing in Olympics?

wetu:

1Jn 2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.


That is what the Bible says about sports if we can agree that sports are part of the things that are in the world

same with movies etc, But let everyone be fully persuaded in his own mind (Romans 14)

If wrestling is now of the world, I wonder why Jacob bothered wrestling with God then

Legalism beware.

[quote author=Thomas Paine - The Age of Reason Part I (1793) link=topic=784551.msg9367122#msg9367122 date=1318951206]and the way back to his original country was to die.[/quote]

Deep Sight:
This says it all.

Death could not thus be a ritiual sacrifice in the fashion supposed by the Christian.

But i best hold my peace on that one.

^

Hear out. Keep on unreeling.

I for one have always been fascinated with death - it's ramification

Death, most of times is intricate

Better I hold my peace for now on this too

[quote author=Thomas Paine - The Age of Reason Part I (1793)]If Jesus Christ was the being which those Mythologists tell us he was, and that he came into this world to suffer,

which is a word they sometimes use instead of to die,

the only real suffering he could have endured, would have been to live.

His existence here was a state of exilement or transportation from Heaven,

and the way back to his original country was to die.

In fine, everything in this strange system is the reverse of what it pretends to be.[/quote]

plappville:
Just want to know if its against the biblie for a christian practising sports like Judo, Wresling, Boxing etc.

I ve not come across a verse yet but someone told me, they re not a biblical surported.

What do u know about this? your views are needed plz.

Well Isaac was sporting with Rebekah his wife and it wasnt held against him

And it came to pass, when he had been there a long time,
that Abimelech king of the Philistines looked out at a window,
and saw, and, behold, Isaac was sporting with Rebekah his wife - Genesis 26:8

On a serious note, here are some facts

Judo or Wrestling mentioned in the Bible - Genesis 32:24

Also on record that Paul fought a good fight (i.e. possibly boxing) - 2 Timothy 4:7

Pastor AIO:
it's not the corporations, it's the banks. The banks are behind the corporations.

Global corporations are just like tentacles of the banks. 

That's why the Anti-Globalisation and Stop Corporate Greed movements have become the Occupy Wall Street movement.

True.  Donald Rumsfeld and Dîck Cheney played ball but its a shame Abraham Lincoln copped it and got done by them, isnt it?

[quote author=dtw_sola link=topic=783120.msg9353152#msg9353152 date=1318793588]I've recently started dating a lovely girl who is also devoutly religious. As a result I've started attending a local RCCG parish here in the States. Whenever the pastor starts prayer session, the church seems to become an instant madhouse. People running about, laying on the ground, spazzing out, acting like nut-jobs, and asking for God to rain fire on everything. One elderly man at the church even started shaking me, telling me I was not praying hard enough. "Pray like a NIgerian" he yelled.

Nigerian pentecostal style of prayer is extremely forceful and violent.

Has this type of gra-gra prayer proven to be more effective than just simply asking God your requests without all the shouting, screaming sweating, and catching epileptic seizures.

I mean with all of the violent prayer in Nigeria compared to the much more muted Western style, Nigerians are generally still far worse off.

Why is it that Nigerians pray in this manner?

Does this style make your prayers more likely to be answered?

I left Nigeria at a young age, and I guess I am Westernized in my attitude about prayer (and religion in general).

Shouldn't a sincere prayer with a righteous heart be sufficient and effective?

Does God require all the demo.

I am a laid back gentleman and it is not in my nature to act like a crazy person.

Her pastor and others have advised her about having relations with me because of a sense that I was not spiritual. I am a skeptical person by nature, but I have a spiritual side. This is an honest question. I don't wanna lose this girl.[/quote]^
God is not moved by emotion, not energies-in-motion but by faith and righteousness

However, if or when push turns to shove, you'll change gear and act like you're crazy

In addition to "Shouldn't a sincere prayer with a righteous heart be sufficient and effective" Hannah's style is not bad too ( i.e. muted Western style)

- it was sufficient and effective

Pastor AIO:
If you watch the videos you'll see the crimes committed.

I'm not just talking about the financial crisis.

I'm talking about crimes being committed long before and after the financial crisis[/b].

I'm talking about institutionalised looting, also known as highspeed trading and other techniques.
I'm talking about the heartless Manslaughter (I would say murder but clever lawyers would find a way around that one) of millions of babies around the world due to trading derivatives on agricultural products.

Personally I would say murder because those people know exactly what the effect of their actions would be.

They don't care, they just want to make money.

Sure right that they dont care etc and its just a tip of the iceberg

Look elsewhere. Donald Rumsfeld with aspartame, Dîck Cheney with Halliburton etc

Hmm former Secretary of state and vice president

OP is looking for assurance that there will be no sinning

- The shred of evidence that there will not be sin or sinning in the new Heaven and Earth

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BET NIGERIAN CYPHER formerly Jimmy Jatt's Jump Off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSuPST8OUbw

https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518YTSHHCSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

OP is 100% spot on

The above is an eye-opener book

They all should get intimate with it

Kanye West & Mum Donda reminiscing and spitting old verses together. Priceless

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUevGuBd_g

His mum, RIP; definitely had a hand in this guy's meteoric rise to fame

At a December 2008 press conference in New Zealand,

West spoke about his mother's death for the first time.

"It was like losing an arm and a leg and trying to walk through that," he told reporters

Trebor's "Trebor, Sweet, Success!" idents set

Brilliant . The girl and guy are nutters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ikWQ_ubr8Ig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ffCFBu_zO2E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW5WAAW-ISw&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Tb_IipXC1cw

Dont like the next one though, its blasphemously eurgh!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jueXOeeiLG8&feature=related

PS: I confess its on record, that on certain memorable occassions, I've punched my fist in the air and yelled "Yeah! Trebor Sweet Success!"

[quote author=Pastor AIO October 09, 2011, 04:56 PM]My friend, that is not the meaning of justification or Justice.  The Hebrew word Tsedeq is sometimes translated in some places as Justice and then in other places it is translated as Righteousness.  These two words Justice and Righteousness are exactly the same word in Hebrew. 

And it is the same in Greek.  The word is Dikaios.  It is sometimes translated as Justice and other times as Righteousness.  That is why translations can be very confusing.  It makes it seems as if there are 2 different words meaning two different things but that is not true. 

To be Justified is to be made Just.  In other words to be made Righteous.  It doesn't mean that you are still unrighteous but God is going to pretend as if you are righteous.  It means you are made Righteous and the result of this will show itself in your behaviour. 

You are absolutely right in saying that Righteousness means doing the Right thing at the Right Time which is also being Right with God.  You cannot be right with God if you are not doing the right thing. 

And you are right when you say that that Righteousness of God is in Christ. 

HOWEVER, you are wrong when you say that it is impossible. 

That it is possible is the whole point of Christianity. 

We can be IN CHRIST.  To be in Christ is to be Righteous.  It doesn't mean that God pretends we are righteous while we go on being black as Sin. 

No, We become righteous.  And subsequently we live.  And this becoming Righteous is Salvation.[/quote]^
Pastor AIO. Sorry to be honest I was caught up in the blitz posting mode and did not get to read the above

Trust me I too, do my fair study bit of etymologies . . .

Any way just as sacrified blood was temporarily used to cover up sin so can just-as-if-they-havent sinned be

My sentiments too (i.e. I need the Righteousness of God in Christ in me because it is impossible to be righteous)

True sin has no power in me, it doesnt mean I may not succumb to it

So you think God doesnt pretend?

What you say about verses such as Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness

Pastor AIO:
Mr Daiquiri, as long as you are saying that it is a process and that you are growing then you are alright with me. The end goal being to become righteous, that is fine.

But if you are saying that you are already righteous in spite of all your wicked deeds, because of some magic formula and that you can continue to sin because you can easily pray for forgiveness and abracadabra all your sins are washed away, then you and me will have problems.

Jesus said if you forgive other people their sins then God will forgive you your sins, but if you do not forgive others then you too will not be forgiven.

Ezekiel says that if you turn from your sins then God will forgive you your past sins. Jesus too said repent.

If anyone says that forgiveness is unconditional then they are a liar. You have to turn away from your sins, and you have to forgive others too.

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You made me chuckle, a couple of times all over, again.

I am not righteous but have the Righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ

and I do not "continue to sin because you can easily pray for forgiveness and abracadabra all your sins are washed away"

Of course, because of flesh, not fully under subjection (i.e. lust etc as you earlier succintly put it) shìt happens but I can be reassured that when the shìt hits the proverbial fan, I can boldly approach the throne of Grace with confidence for forgiveness (i.e. to obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need)

You have a lot of facts (e.g. Jesus said; Ezekiel says and if anyone says that forgiveness is unconditional) up there however with facts and reality, these at times, can be cheese and chalk

Pastor AIO:
Surely birds fly quite naturally, as it is their inclination. So I take it that Righteousness now comes as easily to you as flight comes to a bird.

It probably comes a lot easier because even the flying bird still makes a decision when it wants to fly and which direction it is going to fly in. But you, thanks to the grace of God, effortless resist lust, anger, and all other such sinful deeds that would make you unacceptable to God. I'm envious.

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Cynicism  and melodrama doesnt suit you

No doubt birds practice in the nest

Have you ever watched young birds learning to fly?

Flying from one branch to another until success is achieved?

"Christians" too go through processing

but hey hear this out

I remember back in the day of when caught up in "company politics"

My boss call me in to the office and said "Dont worry, I've got your back. If anyone bothers you, they'll have me to answer to . . . "

It was a relief. It made me bold and walk tall - I might not have being right but I had my boss' back; the "righteousness" of my boss

It is the Righteousness of Christ, notice the choice of word there (i.e. not the Righteousness of Jesus)

Dont ignore the earlier quote "We are work-in-progress" (i.e. like as in the road works sign?)

God is a God of another chance,  chances all over again.

If you dont "effortless resist lust, anger, and all other such sinful deeds that would make you unacceptable to God"  then confess your sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (i.e.  1 John 1:9)

It is a goal-directed learning (i.e. the goal is the Righteousness of Christ - Doing the Right thing, at Right time and still be on God's Right hand side)

PS: PastorAIO & zataxs. Please examine what I call righteousness

5solas:
Thanks for the above. I just browsed through some of your other posts, great posts.

I hear you but you the man! Sorry reply is a bit late

Pastor AIO:
So do you think that a christian ought to strive towards righteousness, or should he just give up knowing that it is 'impossible'.

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Strive?. You made me chuckle.

Do birds strive to fly?

Why should "christians" strive?

Its work-in-progress and all about Grace

11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Titus 2:11 - 12

PS  King's or Latvian Gambit, hmm, am wondering which is yours.