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Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 12:36pm On Aug 26, 2018
Shelumiel:
And you are fool for not seeing that the fire consumed every single thing surrounding the Bible! Just shut your mouth and stop deluding yourself . No amount of logical reasoning can explain why a bible, in the midst of a fire, will not get burned or at least scalded .

What were the things surrounding the bible? Name them? I've told you already that the entire table did not even get burnt. Less than 40 percent of the table surface got burnt and you this superstitious idiot is telling us that some elusive supernatural event took place. You are a fool.

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Religion / Re: Stoning The Devil: Christians, Atheists, Everyone Should Learn From This Ritual. by Dalamama: 11:29am On Aug 26, 2018
Demmzy15:
I'm not a Christian so all this doesn't concern me. However, for the sake of an argument I'll agree with the above. You presented the picture of a Pharoah, was Pharoah a creator who came to sacrifice himself? Why compare both? So before you believe in an ancient one, you must see their bodies?

That's my point, if the Pharoah who was just a man that lived long ago has that kind of evidence, then why should the evidence of the creator of the universe that came into the world be based on hear say probability?
Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 11:25am On Aug 26, 2018
Shelumiel:
Wood and paper , which has a lower boiling and melting point ? The Polish surface and the edge of the Bible that was no scalded or burnt , which should logically have a lower melting and boiling point ? Answer please

The bible has a hard cover and the polished wood has a minimum fire accelerating property. If the bible was placed on dry grass, it will burn. The polished wood has very low fire accelerating property. Half of it did not even burn from your picture.

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Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 11:18am On Aug 26, 2018
Shelumiel:
Your foolishness did not allow see the error in what you just posted . When a fire burns , in consumes everything; especially those things whose boiling and melting points are below the temperature of the fire . But in this case , the fire consumed everything surrounding the bible; yet the bible was not scald , neither was it burnt or its pages smoked . So what could be the reason for such ? Please check the picture I posted and ask the scientist in the lab the reason for such. ..and while you're at it , give God the glory for showing you a reason why something cannot be explained by mere human banter .

I just explained to you but obviously, you can't comprehend anything. Even the table itself wasn't completely destroyed. That's to show you that fire was minimal. How many things were on the table and why was the damage very little? If you open the bible and light it on a rug or grass for a while it will burn completely. Many other bibles have been been completely destroyed in other inferno.

After all I've seen Muslims that use the pages of the bible to smoke weed, the pages of the bible is like wrizzler so that's what they use specifically to mould their weed and it burns. So what exactly are you saying that bible pages don't burn or what? You are a joke.

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Religion / Re: Stoning The Devil: Christians, Atheists, Everyone Should Learn From This Ritual. by Dalamama: 11:12am On Aug 26, 2018
rekinomtla:


Pharoah

I just showed you the picture of the corpses of one Pharoah. Their burial tombs and still exist intact. Where is the empty tomb of Jesus? Where is it?



It shows you methodology is inconsistent, first you said "The existence of Jesus isn't based on irrefutable historical evidence so isn't a historical fact.” Yet you only apply that criteria for Jesus.

Where is the irrefutableevidence to show that Jesus exist? There are buildings, burial chambers, bust, corpses, images , personal writings, actual dates associated with their birth, or death etc of some historical figures. There is NONE for Jesus. Only them say them say opinions of scholars.


Stop lying, I said specifically said Jesus existence is based is a "highly probable evidence based position" not an empty hypothesis. But I must say you are trying really hard to establish your false dichotomy - either absolute certainty or its an empty hypothesis.

Jesus existence is only based on opinion of other people. Nothing directly shows he exist. No direct evidence points to his existence. No bust, image, personal writing, something that directly relates to him.like some other people that shows or gives high probability. Only hear say and them say them say. Eve the Jesus stories were first written at least 40 years after the alleged Jesus character died by unknown authors.




According to you yes grin. According to historians it is. Just like according to a flat earther the planet isn't round.

Jesus existence relies only on the opinion of historians. No direct evidence like those of others at all. You can't even compare.



Like I said I believe in Jesus existence because there's evidence for it, the same reason why it's the scholarly concensus. You reject that evidence because you believe that if it "isn't based on irrefutable historical evidence isn't a historical fact". ]

Show me the evidence. Where is the evidence that points to Jesus directly not based on opinion of scholars? Where is it?



According to you if something isn't absolutely certain then it's only opinion grin so you think the earth being round is only an opinion, hell you probably think your own existence is an empty hypothesis since you could always just be in the matrix or a brain in a vat.

Ogbeni, where is the irrefutable evidence that the creator of the universe came into the world and killed himself for mankind 2000 years ago? Where is it? Is opinion and probability all you have?
Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 10:56am On Aug 26, 2018
Shelumiel:
A foolish atheist is speaking illogically once again . So you mean to tell us here ,that all hardcovers in the world ,are fireproof , abi? But what about the edges ...do they have a fireproof edge too? Would you like me to show you the bible? I can show you if you bible if you are interested.


Too much ignorance on display. Someone said our ignorance is God and what we know is science.


You need lesson on how Fire works because clearly you don't know how fire works.

1: Fire needs an accelerant (fuel, gas, oxygen, resins of a particular kind will act as an accelerant also)
2: What sort of surface was the bible placed on? Clearly it was placed on a table that is wooden and polished. This surface is not highly combustible and that is a fact. The entire table surface from the picture wasn't damaged and even the charred parts shows minimal damage from the pic you posted.
Material elements may be plastic, rubber, leather or fibre - each with its own different fire-accelerating or decelerating properties. The polished table surface has minimum fire accelerating property.
3: If the bible was placed on the rug on its side with some pages open, it will burn completely.

You see certain conditions including the rate of the fire spread, the surface on which the bible was placed, all determine whether it will burn or not.

There is no miracle involved here so move along, there is nothing to see.

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Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 10:43am On Aug 26, 2018
Shelumiel:
I need proof of your narrative ...along with pictorial evidences . Can you supply that ?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/family-qu-ran-is-only-item-to-survive-arson-attack-1.1357759

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Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 10:39am On Aug 26, 2018
Shelumiel:
The image you see is the surface of a table which was burnt about 3years ago, in fact everything on that table was burnt except my bible . There is a pattern formed in the burn ; that was were the bible was at the time . And guess what ? The pattern fits the exact size of the Bible. I do not know how this happened...but what I do know is that it defies logic ...and it had me believing in something.

If you study and know how things burn you won't be saying this nonsense. The bible has a hardcover and the pages are packed together, which makes it fireproof automatically. The pages need to be opened and separated before it can burn that is why bibles, Quran and dictionaries with hard covers survive fire incidents without damage or minimal damage.

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Religion / Re: What Personal Experience Made You Believe God's Miracles Do Happen? by Dalamama: 10:36am On Aug 26, 2018
calculator123:

this story defies logic. if she had no womb, where was the foetus? how was it feeding from the mom?..

These people are mad, seriously. If he story is true her sister needs to be arrested because she bought the kids fom someone.

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Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:29am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
yes, it was true that God miraculously intervened over issues he shouldn't have at the days of the old testament, simply because men were ignorant in that phase of human existence.

But in the new testament as men where getting understanding he stoped using those miracles to intervene .

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. (This was the days of the old testament when men uses these objects to worship)
17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at(overlooked); but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Overlooked in the sense that, he protected and gave people fortune miraculously,just to let them know that he is the true God, not those objects the people were worshiping ignorantly.

that was then

But today, he doesn't do things like that anymore.
Why?
Because people are now vast in knowledge and understanding.
Infact, there are technologies already developed to sensor intruders for personal protection.

So, we don't really need God for many things these days.
But we need him for our eternal life, that is what human knowledge and technology cannot offer.

He doesn't do like that anymore according who? You abi? Just yesterday a Christian here called Otipoju was telling us how a bird appeared to his grand mother and spoke to her telling her things that saved her life from ritualist and you are here saying God has stopped such. Even the bible said God is the same yesterday today and forever but you are telling us another thing. So all these guys are telling lies abi? grin
Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:24am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
do you know how many Christians have died calling God at the time of distress such as accident?

What is the pastor Biodun talking about? grin

Do you know how many Christians he has prayed for that have received healing in his Church because he called the name of Jesus? What are you talking about?
Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:06am On Aug 26, 2018
God and his plans.

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Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:01am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
grin grin grin grin grin

So, you actually believe in those lies along side with some Christians?

The scripture did not say that o.

Christians believing in christ do not ensures any protection o, christ is not babalawo.

The only thing christ ensures is eternal life. John 3:16

It is NOT a lie because the passages are in the bible and spoken by God himself. Or was God lying when he said "The Lord is my Shepard I shall not want" Was God telling lies there?
Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:59am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:

no!
These are all physical things.

God don't use all these physical things to engage the world.

God is a spirit

So, whoever he must engage must be through spirit and truth.

You engaged God through spirit and truth and he told you that he doesn't protect the good people and allows bad thing to happen to them.

Pastor Biodun od COZA engages God through spirit and truth and God told him that he ALWAYS protects those who call unto his name for protection and won't allow anything bad to happen to them.

So who are we to believe with this your spirit and truth brouhaha, since it can not be measured in any way to determine it's veracity? Are you the one telling the truth or is it pastor Biodun?
Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:44am On Aug 26, 2018
beatmonster:


Everything is defined in the scriptures?

Gravity, Electricity, Magnetism, Chemical Reaction, Micro-Organism... pls show me where these are defined in your scriptures

He meant anything spiritual mythological and fictional is defined inside the bible.
Religion / Re: Stoning The Devil: Christians, Atheists, Everyone Should Learn From This Ritual. by Dalamama: 9:42am On Aug 26, 2018
rekinomtla:


Oh so in other words you just believe they exist despite there not being absolute proof? You just want absolute proof for Jesus.

Believe who exist? What has their existence got to do with anything? Isn't it a shame that the alleged creator of the universe came to live on earth and the only evidence is empty hypothesis of he said she said?


Well that’s your opinion. Numerous atheist and agnostic historians don’t believe any of the above yet they still accept the evidence for Jesus existence. Seems like you just making excuses to reject Jesus existence by mixing two questions into one. Which is ironic since atheists often accuse christians jumping from Jesus existed to therefore he was the Son of God who die for the sins of man.

Anybody can believe what ever he wants, but the existence of Jesus as a person isn't an established fact. It matters because it's totally absurd that you believe that the alleged creator of the universe cane and lived on earth and the only evidence for that is opinions of other men. grin grin

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Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:35am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
This kind of question comes from a very wrong assumption.

We assume that because some people are good therefore they do not deserve bad things.

We forget that life happens to everyone equally whether they are bad or good.

The rain and sun falls on everyone at equal intensity whether they are bad or good.

That is God for you.

So your God is random, incoherent and a liar. All the places where he talks about protecting the righteous that believe in his name and call unto him and just empty lies abi? Continue.
Religion / Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:32am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
the promise to Christians is simple.

He that dweleth in the secret place of the most high in the light of christianity implies that, anyone who believes in christ has dweleth in the secret place of the most high, the promise to such person is eternal life.

Now, eternal life is something spiritual and not any physical benefits like every good things of life.

Christianity from the bible stand point did not promise every good things for it adherents like pastors are putting it.
It only promises eternal life, that's all

So the writers of the bible were telling lies when they wrote these things abi?


The LORD says, "I will rescue those who love me. I will protect those who trust in my name.

Psalm 91:14
Religion / Re: Stoning The Devil: Christians, Atheists, Everyone Should Learn From This Ritual. by Dalamama: 7:28am On Aug 26, 2018
Demmzy15:
Show us the remaining of your great great great grand father, eleribu!

My great great grand father is NOT the creator of the universe that came to sacrifice himself to save humanity from their sins as Christians claim. So the creator of the universe came down to earth and the only evidence for that is what? He said she said tales abi?
Religion / Re: - by Dalamama: 9:14pm On Aug 25, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:


THE MAN IS A FULL TIME MORØN. undecided

Mentally unstable people are gradually taking over oo.

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Politics / Re: Beneficiaries Of FG'S Social Investment Program Receiving Their 5,000 (Pics) by Dalamama: 8:46pm On Aug 25, 2018
Paretomaster1:


Dreamer, The current administration does not put the country where it is today, it's simply trying to salvage it...


Salvage it how? I repeat if the state house hospital cam NOT help the president and the members of his family and they always need to fly abroad for health issues, then why and how do you think that this government will help you? By giving you 5000 naira like rejected lizards?

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