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KingEbukasBlog:
Seriously ? Since you say I couldn't have known how man came into existence then you couldn't have known there is no God since you didn't see them creating the 'God idea' . Can you provide the names of the first men who created the 'God idea' ? Did you see them create it ? If you didn't see or know how they created it , then all you have are assumptions and nothing more .

Debating you gets easier every time

I don't need to show you the first man. We all know that God is an idea because there are many Gods/ Goddesses etc created by humans. Your God which is a triune God just started just like 2000 years ago. The chinese, Indians, Arabs, Africans all had their own different God ideas created by them. How did the Gods that yiur ancestors were worshipping 1000 years ago came about?

KingEbukasBlog:
Yeah of course I know . Atheist arguments were easily debunked by theist philosophers . Atheist philosophers and scientists are not many though .

It is thiest arguments that have been easily debunked by atheist philosophers.

How does this question the scientific evidence for a universe with a beginning ?

If the universe doesn't have an end then it is not infinite. That's why I asked you to tell me when the universe is estimate to come to and end and cease to exist. When will the universe end?

Atheism was created by its founders and it remains imaginary

Atheism just like theism is a creation of men. Without men there won't be atheism and theism.

Thanks

KingEbukasBlog:
God's existence does not depend on the existence of man or the universe , the universe and man depend on the God's existence .

You have not shown me how the universe and man could exist without a creator .

You have shown that.man and the universe were created how? Have you seen man come into existence? What about the universe? All you have are assumptions and nothing more.

KingEbukasBlog:
That's why atheists are not intellectually bright . Logic and reasoning destroys atheism . Atheists are repulsed by logic and scientific evidence that destroys their atheistic beliefs .

I repeat I have no time for.philosophical mumbo jumbo. There are many athiest that are philosophers and scientist so your red hering is meaningless.

These questions are not germane . Please focus on the argument .

It is. If the universe is not.eternal then at what time will it end stop existing? It is very pertinent.

I don't reject evolution . Can you provide logical and scientific reasons to why you reject evidence for the origin of the universe and evolution as an atheist ?

You believe that humans evolved from hominids? Both theories are based on a lot of assumptions and lack objective evidences.

Christianity posits that God has a triune nature . Being agnostic about God's nature does not mean that He does not exist .

Christianity like other religions has a God that was created by its founders that remains an imaginary idea.

Its my business what I do with my money , don't you think so ?

Ok good for you.

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no way the universe is eternal . Science and logic prove that . Logic : infinite regress is impossible and ex nihilo nihil fit (out of nothing nothing is produced . According to Thomas Aquinas : There is an efficient cause for everything; nothing can be the efficient cause of itself. It is not possible to regress to infinity in efficient causes. The universe is NOT even self sufficient . There is no possibility that it is eternal .

You are left with a logical conclusion that God , an immutable eternal being exists .

I have no time for philosophical mumbo jumbo. When will the universe end and cease to exist. Pls tell me. If the universe is infinite then it must come to an end right? When is this end? Any scientific postulations on that?

I don't think you can tell the difference between evidence and assumption . Anything that contradicts your beliefs is an assumption . You keep saying that since it utterly destroys your beliefs .

It is an assumption. Just like evolution. Why don't you accept the scientific evidence for evolution but only that for the origin of the universe. Very telling it is.

Since Atheism is a man made invention which began 2,500 years . This discussion is pointless since God exists

Your own God idea, the three in one who came into the world to get killed as a sacrifice unto himself started existing about 2000 years ago. Before then there was no Jesus God idea anywhere.

Is it your money ?

Just asking if you went and gave then your money today.

KingEbukasBlog:
Equations are not scientific evidence . Even Cosmologist Sean Carroll admitted that there is no evidence for an eternal universe though there are numerous models for them . The data which serves as evidence only fit the models that present a finite universe. There is no evidence for an eternal universe .

Sean Carroll also said that they universe might be eternal. No one knows. So far the data only shows that the universe began to expand at some point which scientist call the begining. What there is before the universe started to expand they do not know. So it is an open assumption.

1. I have told you several times to confute the strong scientific evidence for a finite universe provided by Stephen Hawkins in his lecture on the beginning of time here : www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html]

Those are scientific assumptions just like that of evolution. No difference.

2. An eternal universe (though there is no such thing ) does not preclude the existence of God . There is a concept of creation that agrees with the coexistence of an eternal universe with God .

Since God is an idea, anything can be made to fit in with the idea. Nothing new there.

3. Receive sense this Sunday afternoon sir

Have you given your pastor money this Sunday?

Jesus

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no evidence that the universe is eternal .

There is no evidence that the universe is not eternal there are only scientific assumptions.

Scientific evidence proves the universe has a beginning . Physical laws also prove the universe has a beginning .

There are scientific evidence as well that shows that the universeis eternal.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.amp

You are anti-science for rejecting evidence that the universe has a beginning .

He is not anti science. There is no scientific consensus on the origin of the universe there is only scientific assumption. There is no scientific consensus on the origin of life or humans as well just assumptions. Deal with that and stop telling lies.

bishop101:
The last time i checked my bible God is a living Being. In my opinion if God wants any one dead He does that Himself and not asking anyone to help Him out. So anyone saying he will kill for God need his brain examined.

Not true. Read the bible and see where God commanded his chosen men in many places to kill people for him.

Of course muslims alone will go to the muslim heaven while christians alone will go to the christian heaven.

Our superstitious beliefs is what is holding us from moving forward.

frank317:
Someone who believes in biblical fictional stories as real is asking for evidence... Lol. If u had been asking for evidence all these while ur life wouldn't have been like this.

If u can believe the Bible, u can believe anything

I tire oo.

felixomor:
I didnt talk to you.
Stop dreaming, Chameleon.

Bla bla bla. Closet She-male lover.

felixomor:
Sorry i meant galaman, dalaman

Stop stalking me you closet she-male lover.

felixomor:
Red herrings upandan.
You cant even maintain one accusation on me.
You have to always "chameleonize"
Shior

You are all that I've said you are and more. Closet she-male lover and hypocrite.

KingEbukasBlog:
You think we dont know who has the she-male lover , eh DalaMAMA

Of course we all know that felixomor is a closet she-male lover. Try not to be like him.

felixomor:
Shift bro.
Nobody takes "dalamama" serious

Park well you closet she-male lover.

KingEbukasBlog:
From dalaMAMA ? Haba .. say no more

Confirmed voyeurrr you are. Try not to be closet she-male lover like your friend felixomor.

KingEbukasBlog:
Don't mind them . If believers tell their stories , atheists like dalaMAMA wee be shouting evidence upandan .

Evidence that Jesus ascended into heaven using a defunct portal? Where is it?

felixomor:
Please do you have any evidence to back up this fictional story of yours?

Do you think this is the bible and it's fictional stories?

felixomor:
Liar again.
All your words previously, are always repetitions of the person u are arguing with.

Please tell another lie.

Just say the truth for once. You won't die.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nope . But you are

Where is your evidence?

felixomor:
New word you learnt recently.
Please tell us more.

Just say that I introduced you to the word for the very first time.

JackBizzle:
Seriously are you related to Dalaman

I am dalaman.

felixomor:
So how many lies made them change Dalaman to Dalapikin?

Your voyeurism involves children abi? Ok oo.

KingEbukasBlog:
DalaMAMA ? What the ... Rotflmao !!! Sir Dalaman really has a freaky side

Don't tell me that you are also a voyeurrr.

felixomor:
But you are special
Dalaman to Dalamama to Dalapikin

Your lies are moving you along family tree

LMAO, Wehdone sir
Keep Lying

What is this voyeurrr saying?

felixomor:
Even nairaland now knows u.....

They will soon seize this one again....
Then you will become "Dalapapa"

lmao

Nairaland knows everyone here. Nairaland knows you as a hypocrite that says one thing and does another. Shameless.

felixomor:
You watched it,
Liar Liar
Pants on Fire
By the way, your name has now changed to "Dalamama" . ?
You must have been lying somewhere else, again ba?
So they seize your moniker.......

LMAO

Where is the evidence that I did? You've resulted to lying again. You can't live without telling lies. Wikipedia is not reliable only to shamelessly use the same wikipedia to try and prove a point. Shameless.

felixomor:
"Show me evidence i watched it"
Lmao
Funny

Evidence that I watched it? You assumed I did , just as you always assume you are wise.

felixomor:
Hehehehe,
Gerrarahia "lyingman" abi "dalaman"
At least 3 people have already exposed u this last week

3 imaginary people abi? You have already exposed yourself. Shameless.