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butterflylion:
How many people have I told about Jesus? You have been here since 2008 doing the same thing over and over again and me I never even dey here reach 1 year and you dey berate me?

Chai Chai Chai again e no go better for the person wey swear this kind confusion enter your life.

For 9 solid years you have been actively shouting God does not exist on this forum and shame no catch you say old man like you dey accuse apprentice like me of doing Wetin for 9 years you dey swim inside as an atheist.

# Your Own mumu don do!

Make shame catch you small you hear?

All I've been doing is asking people to substantiate their claims. If you tell me that God is as real as a car with known features like speedometer, seat and steering, I'll then ask you to give those features of your God that are as real as speedometer, seat and steering. You came quoting from some mythical book and I responded in kind na. Why you dey vex dey bah up and down?

Stop going all emotional on me. I've told you to go meet your wife, girl friend or gay lover if you are one and go all emotional on them.

butterflylion:
Oga go and sit down. Stop giving yourself migraine over something you have fully convinced yourself does not exist which means that the writings from a non existent being should not bother you as well.

If it's a lie then let it be and not giving yourself arthritis on your keyboard. E ma Gbami ke!

Also stop telling people that some.mythological character is real. You were trying to berate Frank by even comparing a mythical character with something that is as real as a car and it's features. I keep asking you questions to support substantiate your claims but all I get from you is bah bah, bah, bah, meh ,meh ,meh meh.

butterflylion:
He knows better than to give a fvck for a two bit fellow who believes he does not exist.

When someone is in a car yet claims the car does not exist despite seeing the gear, speedometer, dashboard, seats, etc then such a one is deemed fit to be ignored.

Like 16: 31

"He said to him, 'If they do not listen (believe) to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

What verifiable evidence about Jesus has anyone ever presented like you would parts of a car like speedometer, dashboard, seats, etc. As the story goes Jesus was a man. If I tell you to give a detailed description of him you'll start baaing and mehing.

That last bible verse is a lie like many other bible verses.

hopefulLandlord:
of course, let's buttress this point with the Bible, shall we?

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22)

Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

With all these passages claiming that if they have even the smallest amount of faith (Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.)then whatever you ask for in prayer will be granted,

Jesus healed the centurion's servant without being there with him and made it clear that his followers would do even "greater works", so I wonder why these Christians can't "send their word" and heal his leg and are instead prescribing garlic and whatnot

could it be the same reason Superman didn't fly in at the last seconds to save the casualties of the anambra massacre? because Superman and Jesus have the same thing in common?

You think these guys truly believe in what the bible tells them? They only believe the stories but they don't believe in the real life injunctions.

butterflylion:
Na catfishbilly teach me. Apprentice no dey big pass im oga. Besides everybody except you knows garlic and honey have antibacterial, antiviral and anti fungal properties.

Make you read you no gree read. Na to dey roam religious section you sabi.

Na wah ooo. Wetin be the meaning of herbalist na?

A herbalist is dealer in medicinal herbs. It's not an insult or demeaningstatement. Just stating it based on the herbal remedy you recommended. Baba try to know if something is worth quarrelling about, so that you don't go about quarreling with your shadow.

butterflylion:
So free stupidity exists ba?

No wonder your mumuism dey in overload. So you sabi that market where you buy your own.

That market wey don born down since 31 years ago and the person wey sell you your mumu died inside the fire so your return policy died with him.

Your mumu is now for life niggah

More yama yama.

butterflylion:
Carry garlic paste rub am and also chew 2 cloves of garlic. Natural herbal treatments often work better on such things.

Mash the garlic into a paste and if you have honey, mix it together with it and rub on your leg while you chew the raw garlic.

Now now the itch will stop and the honey will help blend your skin colour.

This is guaranteed therapy.

You don turn herbalist?

butterflylion:
Even your mumuism don change wike face.

Dalaman the zombie your intelligence went that way. If you run hard enough you might be able to catch up with it.

You are still talking yama yama.

felixomor:
Why not keep quiet
If u cant yourself from telling Lies

You want to deny that you claimed that christians and Muslims worship same God? Felixmumu Mr lie lie.

butterflylion:
Chai Chai. E no go better for the person why swear this kind confusion enter your life ooo.

Muslims believe they are worshipping God but not the God of Christians. Christians believe we are worshipping God but not that of Islam. The underlying factor is that both believe in their God but does not mean we meet anywhere on the path of belief.

They just have an approach to God which we do not subscribe to and neither do they to us.

However, by their fruit we know them.

Using Islam to argue with a Christian as an example is tantamount to insanity raised to power infinity where infinity is demonstrated with the figures II which are 2 parallel lines that never meet.

So na your type dey cry when watching Spiderman?

Oh so many emotional people dey o. So you can be emotional over your own imagination oga zombie. Oya begin imagine and cry.

What is this yama yama?

butterflylion:
Carry your shakabula enter Muslim section since you want to use them to cite an example to a Christian when both faiths have no meeting point.

Kontinu with your mumuism.

Your breed of stupidity is special. I was just showing you how wrong you were by stating that only kids get emotional over fiction.

So Islam and christianity have no meeting point? A according to your men felixomor and KingEbukasBlog christians and Muslims worship the same God. Now you are saying they have no meeting point. Felixmumu come and see what your man is saying ooo.

butterflylion:
You did not show me anything. All you showed me were confused and conflicting statements. You are convinced something does not exist yet you are expecting someone to show you what you are already convinced does not exist. How then would you recognise anything as that something you say does not exist?

So you have a Vendetta against people that believe in the same God you say does not exist ba?

You are the true definition of DELUSION!

You keep displaying you Olodo credentials.

I've never been presented with incontrovertible proof or evidence.All I have been presented with are stories, ideas and beliefs. I will if I am presented with one. Just saying.

I said I can have vendetta with people that believe in God. They have not shown that their God exist, they only believe that their God exist. I can argue with them and even have vendetta with them but I can't have any with their God because it hasn't been shown to exist by them. They have shown that they have beliefs bit that is where it begins and ends. No believer has been able to show that God exist outside their beliefs.

butterflylion:
As expected the zombie repeats the word FICTIONAL. by the way you sabi say I no be Muslim so Wetin come concern me with that mumuism wey you type up there?

If na Islam be your headache enter Muslim section with your shakabula and fire away.

Only Zombie go use Islam address a Christian.

You are a new breed of stupid. You said matured minds do not get all emotional over fictional characters. You said only kids do that and I showed you how matured muslim men not only get emotional but kill themselves and others over fictional places.

butterflylion:
You are not making any sense that is why no amount of mental effort will make me see sense in nonsense.

You are convinced God does not exist yet you want me to CONVINCE you against your earlier stand? Who convinced you before that God does not exist?

Nobody forced you to believe God does not exist and you cannot force anybody to show you evidence contrary to what you already chose to believe.

No time niggah! Who your belief epp?

Just showing you that I can change my mind and I do not have any vendetta against any God as you earlier accused me.

I can not have any vendetta with what doesn't exist. I can have vendetta with people that BELIEVE in God. Those are the ones that are real and I interact with.

butterflylion:
Sorry matured minds do not get all emotional over fictional characters.

I hope you realise that fictional means imaginary. Why should I get emotional over an imaginary character?

Only children do that. Not adults! E be like say you still dey play police and thief.

Some muslims happily wrap bombs round themselves and go on suicide missions based on the fictional belief that the will get to paradise have endless sex with many heavenly virgins, swim in rivers of wine, live in gild littered streets, and on and on. They do not only get emotional, they kill people because of this fictional belief. So what exactly are you saying again? If I call you an Olodo now you'll start baaing and mehing.

butterflylion:
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So from being totally sure God does not exist you are now saying that perhaps God exists and you are open to changing your mind when proof of his existence is shown you yet you still insist he cannot possibly exist because he is a man made idea! Mumuism day confirmed!

So dem indoctrinate you ba? What if the other evidence you get shown is also another indoctrination method? How would you be able to tell what indoctrination is and what it is not?

I have told you why I believe God does not exist. Now you are making your own claims and running commentary on them. Na you sabi.

True, I was indoctrinated, I was indoctrinated with stpries, ideas and beliefs. I was never presented with any God to interact with, all I was presented with were stories, ideas and beliefs and I was made to accept them.

If any body can show me any God that exist on its own outside stories and human belief and how to intreact with it in ways that are clear I'll believe. But so far all the Gods I see are just the ones that exist in forms of stories and beliefs. No God has ever been shown to exist outside them.

butterflylion:
You don start this your rants again ba? Olodo Olodo Olodo no go make person be Wetin e no be na

Na question I ask you.

YOU SAY SOMETHING NO DEY EXIST AND YOU ARE CONVINCED IT DOES NOT EXIST YET YOU ARE EXPECTING SOMEONE TO SHOW YOU THAT THING YOU HAVE ACCEPTED DOES NOT EXIST.

how will you recognise it when you see it?

You see why I say today na mumuism day?

I am calling you and Olodo because you are one. You deliberately don't want to understand what I am saying.

Let me break it down for you once again. I do not believe and I have stated the reasons why I do not believe. If you can convince me, I'll believe. If you can show me and convince me that my reasons for unbelief is wrong by providing strong and incontrovertible evidence for me to believe, I will believe.

. Very funny take down.

butterflylion:
Dalaman the zombie I dey wait for your usual mumuism o.

Meh shonu dia. You have no sense.

butterflylion:
Today is a day of mumuism I swear. so make I show you same thing you are convinced does not exist?

Where make I start from to dey dissect this your mumuism?

How can you even use such a word like ridicule when talking about something non existent? You can only ridicule something that can term it as ridiculous and that something must exist first before it can see your ridicule.

You said God does not exist yet you are STILL EXPECTING SOMEONE TO PRESENT THIS NON EXISTENT GOD TO YOU.

You are an Olodo. You have no sense. I've told you specifically that nobody has presented any God to me and no God has ever interacted with me . All I have been presented to accept as God are stories and ideas. It is this stories and ideas that that I ridicule and challenge. No God has been shown to me outside stories, ideas and belief. Has anyone and presented any Jesus to me as a living being to interact with? Has any Jesus ever interacted with me personally? No. All I have been presented for Jesus are stories and ideas and it is this stories and ideas that I challenge and ridicule. God does not exist because no God has ever been presented to me and demonstrated to be God. All that has been presented are ideas that are based on stories and beliefs. I was indoctrinated and I believed before changing my mind. I am very opened to changing my mind again. I have demonstrated that I can change my mind when presented with evidence. If you know any God that exist outside human belief and show me how to interact with it to know that it is real. I will believe and accept after after doing that.

butterflylion:
Oya na end the matter since you no sabi anything.

Is that the only thing you do not know? Why then do you wish to argue over something YOU DO NOT KNOW AS IF YOU KNOW?

why parading ignorance as if it is knowledge? since you do not know what happened to your relatives who died why preach same ignorance as fact when arguing?

Oya take again

Now you have started making things up. You are an Olodo, you have no sense. What have I been preaching? Which ignorance have I been preaching to people? What is it about death have I ever preached or made any claim about?

I only challenge people's assumptions and claims about death and what they feel or assume will come after. I challenge their assumptions and claims. That's all I do. But as an Olodo I don't expect you to understand.

butterflylion:
Kikikikikiki so you have never met any God or interacted with any God yet you call the same person you say you have no vendetta against a dead Jew and all manner of absurdities. Yet he does not exist.

How would you be ranting over something non existent? No rant enter market o before your Madness is confirmed.

So the beliefs are not attached to God ba? How can you challenge beliefs over a non existent God? You well so?

If I call you an Ehwu now you'll start baaing and mehing like a deranged goat.

You believe that a dead Jewish hippie is God na. Show me how Jesus EXIST specifically as God in a way that is very clear, incontrovertible and objective so that I will know that you have an idea of what you are talking about. Jesus is a character in mythology andaccording to the mythology he is Gof and he created the universe. It is the story and the character of Jesus according to the mythologicalnarrative I am talking about. If my ridiculing of the mythological narrative is what you call vendetta then so be it. I can not be in a vendetta with a mythical being.

Beliefs are attached to God but Gods are not real. I challenge stories, doctrines, and different God ideas from different people. Here on this topic the OP is talking about the traditional African ideas of God which is different from the Jewish, Arabic or Mayan idea of God. It is the believers and the beliefs that they hold that I am challenging, no body as ever presented a tangible God. All that have been presented so far are beliefs.

That's why I have been telling you to point to any God that you know that exist outside human belief.

butterflylion:
so you do not know what happens when you die? OK let me leave that for now. When your relatives died or you went for the burial of someone close to you what happened to them after death? Worm food or something more? Since you cannot speak about your own maybe you can speak about someone else whom you have observed.

I don't know what happens to them as well. I simply do not know what happens when people die. I did not know what happened to me before I was born and I simply do not know what will happen when I die and same applies to other people. Don't know what happened to them before they were born and don't know what will happen when they die. But I feel there is no need making assumptions over what I do not and can never know. In this case I feel assumptions are not necessary.

butterflylion:
Kwakwakwakwakwa Kikikikikiki Abeg wail me a river.

So what are you constantly on Nairaland religion section attempting to do if not due to your personal vendetta against God and your attempt to save some "deluded " souls whom you feel religion has destroyed. Abi have you forgotten the thread where you shared your atheist conversion testimony?

I have no personal vendetta against any God. I've never met any God, never spoken to any, none has ever offended me, none has ever told me anything, none has ever done anything to me or interacted with me. I was raised by my parents and society around me and indoctrinated to accept and believe some stories about certain people and made to also fashion my life after the stories and moral outlook of the characters of that story. God is a part of that story. I've never met, encountered or interacted with any God in my life, I only meet and interact with people that BELIEVE in God. It is those people that I always interact with on nairaland religion section because I find religion to be something I am very interested in. The debates entertain me and they give me an insight as to how people reason and think along religious lines and the idea of God.

I can not be in a vendetta with something that I have never interacted with in anyway at all. I know you are wired to believe that challenging people that believe in God means challenging God but that is not the case, all I am.doing is challenging people's beliefs, and the stories and ideas that I have been indoctrinated with as a child. I can not be in vendetta with somethingthat isn't real.

Wetin I believe no suppose concern you na Abi no be so?

Werin you believe suppose concern me because I find it interesting.

Suddenly burning red hot pain is making you mention wife and girlfriend and gay lover. Oga Abeg go take aspirin and help yourself.

Na my question wey I ask you be my concern. If you die will you just be worm food or you expect something more?

I don't want you to go all emotional on me. If you want to go emotional go to the right place and seek for solace. I have no emotional support to give you. I will only speak your language for you.

I've answered your question already.

butterflylion:
Before I was born my physical making parts were part of my mom and dad (sperm and egg) while my spiritual life giving parts were not.

And this spiritual life giving parts was where?

So when you die will you end up as worm food only or you expect more? Na you I dey ask o zombie. You asked yours and I answered so try and answer mine and not throw another question.

Yu believe in some dead Jewish hippe that will raise you back to life like a Zombie and you are calling me a zombie? You are a joke.

I simply do NOT know what will happen after I die and I see no need to make up any assumption or accept any body's assumption and narrative of what will happen to me when I die.

butterflylion:
Zombie when did I say Christians were sent to save the world? Or is your head paining you?

You believe in some dead Jewish hippie and the mythology formed after him that one day he will bring you back to life after you are dead like a zombie, yet you are calling others zombie.

Since atheists feel they hold all answers and feel they are meant to liberate the world from religion is liberation not salvation again? So since you atheists feel you were sent or on a mission of salvation so feel free to knock on my door. Or are you no longer desirous of liberating the world from religion again?

You held a meeting with atheist and they told you they feel they hold all the answers where and when?which atheist told you he Is sent on a.mission of salvation? Which atheist creed told you that? Stop projecting your delusions on others abeg. You believe in a mythical narrative that tells you to go and make disciples of all nations and drag them into your delusions, deal with it and stop projecting it on others.

So you fight back abi? Did anyone stop you from fighting back? As long as you so not fight back like North Korea or the maos or the Kim Jungs we are Okay.

You sound very hurt by something. Na Wetin dey pain you this morning?

You started by calling someone stupid and insulting him, I replied you in your own language and you are trying to go all emotional on me by claiming something is paining me. Nothing is paining me, if you want to go all emotional go and meet your wife or girl friend, if you are gay go meet up your gay lover and go emotional on them. I have no time for your nonsense. I only speak to people in their own language.

LekkyD007:
Judging by the last paragraph I'd say this puzzle is actually about the supposed first man on earth. Adam

So Adam is the first man on earth? How did you know this please?

shadeyinka:
You simply don't know when a conversation is dead!

I simply know when you are talking NONSENSE!

butterflylion:
Bro I will advice you to speak English the way it should be spoken and not saying things like "religion way". That shows you cannot even reason!

Okay let's talk. Does religion stop anyone from reasoning out what is beyond? Religion is already "beyond". You atheists are simply attempting to get to your own version of "beyond ".

So let me ask you a very simple elementary question.

"When you die, will you end up simply as manure and food for worms or do you expect something more"?

Before you were born, were you simply a part of manure and food for worms or where you part of something more?

butterflylion:
Repeating stupid things does not make you smart niggah!

If Atheists are sent to save the world then by all means they should come knock on my door and tell me how God does not exist and how he can never be proven to exist and I will receive them, make them a cup of tea and we will have that chat.

However they would simply talk but never take my choices away from me. That is where you show your stupidity shamelessly.

How can someones simple talk rob you of your personal choices when they did not have a gun to your head or knife to your throat?

Stupid is bad! Stop talking stupid!

You are the one that is stupid and talking stupidly. So the earth needs saving and it is christians that are sent to save it? Why didn't the dead Jewish hippe you guys worship as God come down and save humans himself? Why send fools like you to do his bidding? How have christians saved the world? By narrating mythology and fiction about how some dead Jewish hippie is the way to some mythical salvation abi? Well done. Oponuh.

In reality what christians do is not just talk. They condemn people, castigate and belittle them, tell them that their ways are evil, tell them that the christian narrative is the only right way. They will gladly tell them that they will end up in some fictitious hell fire where they will be tortured for all eternity if they fail to accept the nonsense mythology they are talking about while carrying their heads high because they are high on some delusional bubble.

But when you fight back and give them a taste of their own medicines they'll start crying and wailing that you are fighting God, baa, baa, meh, meh, you hate God, you are evil, demons are all over you and other nonsense mythical cliches.

orunto27:
When a man stands in front of you, you only see his front thoroughly. You don't see his back and you don't see his right and left sides properly.
Such is humans' experience with God.
Judaism face God. Islam watch God's back. Others see God by His sides left or right.
Christianity see everything, every parts and every sides of God. Jesus walked this Earth 2050 years ago. Christians saw him wholly and have been walking with Him since then. Luke1:1-4

These are just your empty and puerile claims. Christianity is just list Islam and all the other religions in reality. Jesus was just a Jewish hippie who was killed and his followers later reared a mythology and legend after him by raising his status as God many years after he died.

shadeyinka:
The demons in charge can't help but hate their sworn enemy. Good day!

Now you've gone to the realm of imaginations. What are demons? Have you met one before? How do they look like? Descibe one for me and tell me how I can encounter one in an objective and clear way. I don't have time for your fictional and mythological beings. You went ranting about how iron smelting wasn't a human discovery without even studying about its history. Now you are talking about fictional demons. Carry on your imaginations waka abeg.