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butterflylion:
Bingo Abeg no go scatter your laptop keys Abi na your phone while ranting over something a few words which form a name and a few numbers which form a date and few images would have solved.

You've now graduated from.worshipping your deluded experience to projecting your madness on me abi? It is not everybody that is like you and does the crazy things that you do. Softy abeg make you no start to dey beat the people around you come claim say na me cause am because of argument on the Internet with someone you don't even know. Abeg calm down.

It's obvious you are so overloaded with hot air and just make silly claims out of the blue when you have no empirical evidence (according to atheism) to back it up with.

Provide the atheist book or decree that says that atheist only accept empirical evidence. Show me where atheism has made that claim. Oya am waiting.

Isn't it a big let down that you who happens to be an atheist who always harp on evidential support could not conjour up even one to buttress your claim?

Show me where I've stated that only empirical evidence cuts as evidence at all times.

Instead you succeeded in playing advocate for atheism and theism out of desperation. You began fighting on the side of theism out of desperation

I told you before and I will say it again, turn in your brain. You are underutilising it!

Na wah ooo. . Mr Olodo are you not tired of sounding like a broken record? I've asked you simple questions and you've refused to answer them only to come wailing with different excuses.

Shebi Jesus told his desciples to keep running from.one city to another when they face persecution for his sake and that before they finish running round Israel he'll return. He told them this 2000 years ago according to the story.

How and why will a dead man return? Return to do what? Jesus is dead. He is not coming back. Why aren't you expecting any of your ancestors to return but a dead Jewish hippie that died over 200 years ago?

butterflylion:
Long story just to avoid doing a simple thing.

You do not have to believe in God before you can Show evidence for a claim you made which is that God is a human construct. Did you not k ow you did not believe in him before making the claim?

What has your claim got to do with a belief or lack of one? Your mumu is growing exponentially!

Of course God is a human construct that is why there is no God that can be shownto exist on its own without human input. If you know any God that exist on its own without human input then point to it. It shouldn't be difficult for you to do.

You keep spewing history which according to atheists can be falsified so I do not want to read your history, I want to see tangible proof that authenticated your history and not just your usual brainless rants.

What is this Olodo saying? So because History can be falsified means history is always false? Which part of the history I have presented have you falsified?

Even if you choose to focus on the Christian God then kindly show me who originated that God idea.

You no suppose dey this dense. For one who is able to rant like you do it is expected that at least you should be able to think alongside.

Even your rants are lousy so I expect no less from your thought process.

I've done that already but as the brainless teat that you are you've failed to see. The early disciples of Jesus and the early church fathers were the people that invented and founded the christian religion.

Na you make claim but na you dey run since from proving your claim. You ran until you had to say "proof of a claim does not necessarily need to follow a specific pattern" thereby defending theism instead of atheism when you atheists demand for specific proofs from theists before you believe. Do you even know how dumb that made you?

You killed atheism all alone with no help from me simply because you were desperate to run away from providing proof to your claim.

Dullardman go and sleep. Sense no fit you at all at all. Sense on you is like Eniola Badmus dressed in body hug.

At least am not a wuwuru fool like you that was busy yelling I made only one claim and I made it after you made me to make the claim. I asked you to provide evidence for your own claim and see the idoitic excuse you were giving as an excuse not to provide any claim. Anyway I don't expect anything much from an Olodo that worships his experience and delusions. The experience that you worship must truly be proud of you.

butterflylion:
See person wey fools dey reject sef dey call people who reject him as fools.

You seem not to know that your foolishness is a special breed because your brain dey see sense as taboo.

It does not matter how many millions of gods there are. There is always and I mean always a beginning to anything.

Since you admit that yes there are numerous gods but they all share one thing and that is that they were all conceived by men.

So show me the origin of the God idea. Show me the humans or groups who conceived this idea before it split into many variants.

Why do you exhibit stupidity in such a proud way?

No matter how you put it the fact remains that to you, man was behind the idea for all the variants of gods. So show me this origin.

Your mumu no be here I swear.

I don't expect an Olodo that worships his own delusions which he calls experience to understand anything. I don't need to show you how all the a Gods came about because you do not believe in all the Gods. You only believe in one out of the many different versions. All I need to show is how your own version of God came about. Christianity which is your religion and whose God idea you subscribe to has a definate history.

It began about 2000 years ago after some Jewish hippie was killed and his disciples decided to turn him into a deity by formulating stories about him after he died. They developed these stories and kept circulating the stories orally amongst themselves until one of them decided to pen it down many decades later. Others got hold of his material plagiarized it word for word and added their own invented stories to it over time. Different stories were written about him that later became a problem for the early believers.Then came the early church fathers who then decided to collect the different written stories harmonize them, put them together into a cannon through votes, assign names to them to give them credibility because those stories and documents were just going round anonymously and form a single narrative and tradition out of it. They assembled and met in different councilsin order to achieve that. They created the theology, the doctrines, and stamped their authority on what people were to believe and what they were to discard to give the new belief system a single narrative and a sense of purpose.

That tradition and belief started out as a small cult and kept amassing followers. Then came the Roman Emperor that accepted the new found religion and it's God and everything changed from then on. After the emperor accepted it another emperor after him made the religion the state religion of the Roman empire. He there by declared that the entire Roman empire will only practice the religion and have no other God but the dead Jewish hippie that was elevated as a God after he died. The empire kept expanding and as they did they made sure that all their conquered territories practiced their state religion and believed in their dead Jewish hippie that was elevated as God. The Roman empire was among the biggest empires in Human history. He tradition was been passed along till it got down to you ancestors through the colonialist. Before the colonialist conquered your ancestors and forced them to accept the stories of the dead Jewish hippie that was elevated to the God status after he died your ancestors had their own Gods which they invented Gods that you don't even know about.

That is a quick summary of how the version of God came about and how it got to you. But I don't expect you to understand it. I expect you to come yelling and haranguing me for not providing you with pictures of the first men that invented God as if God is a single entity and the first people that invented the experience abi na delusion you now claim to worship.

StoneColdBiceps:
You guys put too much emphases on human behavour instead of God, Jesus and the holy Spirit. Humans are canal they 'll always fail. Have a personal relationship with God my broda. Becos you think you are smart and strong willed, you question everything and you got drowned in your curiousity. The Holy Spirit will visit you again as always.

Has the holy spirit finished visiting christians and ending their disputes? Even the basic nature of Jesus has not yet been agreed by Christians while the holy spirit is laying idle without visiting them and correcting their disagreemen. Is Jesus God or is he distinct from God? Some christians say he is God himself while others say he is different from God and just simply a part of the God head as the son. The holy spirit is yet to visit christians and clearly explain that to them the basic nature of Jesus, but It is me an atheist that has seen the delusion for what it is that you want the holy spirit to come and visit abi? Tell the holy spirit to hurry up and come. We will have dinner and eat lots of chicken when it comes.

butterflylion:
Oga of all weyreys show me who the human or group of humans who originated the God idea were? You talk too much for someone so sure if his claim sha

Experiences also originate from people or animate beings so show me those who originated my experience or is that so hard all of a sudden?

Calling me fool no go cover your fvck up because your fvck up is a continuous one

You are so foolish because only a fool will fail to know that there are different Gods. God isn't a single entity and not all the Gods are the same. There are different Gods through out human history and in different human societies. Your own God is just one out of the many version and idrastically of Gods. Your Jesus hippie God was invented like 2000 years ago by his early followers who were mostly unknown and the early church fathers who created the theology, doctrines, and religious tradition about the Jewish hippie and elevated him to the status of a God. 3000 years ago there was nothing like Jesus God that existed anywhere. Even your ancestors were worshipping their own Gods like 500 years ago. Non of them believed in the Jesus hippie God at all. They were worshipping their own Gods. But I don't expect you to get it. I expect you to come crying to me that this is history and is useless. I should bring pictures and dates as if you were predented with pictures and dates before you started believing and worshipping your delusions abi na experience. Which picture of your delusion abi na experience were you presented with before you strated the worship?

As for the new experince you now clain to worship. You arw the first pwrson to start that, yoi just started doing that after smoking the wee wee you stole from your neighbors house that made you start seeing double double.

CatfishBilly:
That's true, he worships an experience, only people dumb enough to believe that someone had an NDE for 7 days could also be dumb enough to worship an experience, it's all in the dumbness, bro.

He worships his delusions.

701ecilana:
Really? So what did you see in Spacetaculars moniker that made you say she was 4evergod? What dis you see in mine too?

Guy, keep guessing with every moniker that threatens you.

Shut up. Shebi you lied that your alt wasn't an alt until you were busted. You no get shame abi. Anyway I don't expect a person that claims a dead person lives in a lagos apartment to have any shame.

CatfishBilly:
As in.
Someone claimed that he had an NDE for 7 whole days and humans with brains believed him.
The thing just tire person.

And our resident rouble rouser will claim this as some kind of evidence for the experience he worships.

edicied:
isn't it funny how anas know 4evergod and they are both criminals?

She seems to know so much about him. She knows that his dead mother lives in his house. Can you beat that?

butterflylion:
Oh Mr Wailer even you know you wail on key C sharp. I can see that once again you lack the ability to understand anything so had to type your usual rubbish.

If God does not exist outside human belief then simply point to that human or group of humans who began that belief Shikena!

Abi you no go school? Something as simply expressed as this you no fit understand. Instead you keep asking me to show you what I did not claim when you said God and human origin all in one breath yet cannot show me that human origin.

Thou fool that worships experience. Can you simply show us how the worship of experience exist on its own independent of human ideas? I am sating one thing and you are busy saying another thing later in your foolish mind you'll claim that you your mind is sharp. Does the experience you worship exist outside human ideas? Abi. When exactly did you start worshipping this experience and who told you about the worship of this delusion you call experience? Who introduced it to you and how exactly can an experience be worshiped?

701ecilana:
Not fixated, but witch hunted. The Ghost of 4evergod is hunting nairaland weaklings called atheists

The run away criminal you mean? I thought you lied that his dead mother still lives in his house?

frank317:
Why areu bothering yourself about that guy? Someone who is depending on u to prove a God he believes in does not exist... Na u cause watin do am?

When he decided to believe strongly in a man made idea where u there? Why will he be hustling u to help him prove his idea is not real?
He knows Yahweh does not exist... He just like being a fool that's all

He said he believes in an experience .

BlueAngel444:
But Allah IS NOT ELOHIM the God recorded by moses in the Torah nor the Almighty God Jess called Father

Both terms means different things, even though they have a similar root language

Felixmor and KingEbukasBlog say that Allah is the same God as Elohim of the Torah and Jesus of the new testament. Why are they wrong?

butterflylion:
Eyah here comes another voltron to the rescue. Allow me to correct your lengthy error with a few words.

If someone makes a claim that God is a man made idea that simply means that this idea began with someone specific or some specific group. This is what logic should have told you.

So since we know ideas are not self existent and must have an origin I simply asked him for the man made origin of this idea and not the tangibility of the idea itself. Man made means human made so since humans are tangible he needs to simply point me to the first man or group of humans who began this idea.

Show me the source of this idea and that source has justified the tangibility or lack of.

Very simple as ABC analysis and not that lengthy mish mash of error you typed!

Does God exist outside human belief? Is there any God that exist on it's own independent of human belief? If yes then point to that God. We are tired of your empty cries and wailing.

butterflylion:
Abeg this guy zombification is beyond compare.

Picture get two again?
Dates no get numbers again?
Names no dey again?

Give me anyone. As long as they are verifiable (in accordance with the statutes of atheism) I am Okay with those.

Where you provided with any before you believed? If yes then provide it. Provide the ones you were shown as poof before you believed since that is the only type of evidence you accept.

butterflylion:
Make I help you before you kill yourself with high blood pressure.


fray
noun
a situation of intense competitive activity.

I mentioned about 4 extremely stupid comments you made which unknown to you made you a defender of theism even though you are an atheist and I threw in one in the fray.

You picked that one and did not deny the rest which I presented to show how stupid you are thereby proving you are Dull with a capital D for Dullardman.

That I did not deny them doesn't make them true. I chose to pick and respond to what ever I want. I just wanted to point out an obvious lie from you.

butterflylion:
You need an example from me even after I clearly said I need names, dates and pictures? D for Dullardman you have exposed yourself enough.

Sure you need to give me the ones you were provided with, since that is the only type.of evidence you want and will accept. The ones you were provided with before you believed are where?

butterflylion:
On the contrary you are confused so will only see lies when I clearly said "thrown in the fray and will catch big meat". You could not for once think straight in order to understand why my use of such expression.

Just admit you are Dull with a capital D for Dullardman.

Where did I say the bible is of divine origin as you lied?

butterflylion:
As usual how? Have I made any claims before? Leeches must be feasting on your brain Dullardman.

Even if I made a claim after you made yours, the point is that it was after yours was made. According to the law I am innocent because I do not need to provide any evidence to my claim especially if you fail to provide any to yours as the one who first made a claim.

So in a nutshell it's ruled a mistrial!

You goofed!

I provided evidence for mine. You refused to accept it. You claimed you wanted specific evidence . I asked you to provide the specific evidence and you still ran away. Provide the pictures and dates you were provided with as proof before accepting your beliefs. I need to see the so that I can be able to provide you with same. You should be able to do that since it's you that is making the request. I just need an example from you.

butterflylion:
Mogbe! He still does not understand "fray" and "catch big meat".

This guy would walk into a trap with his eyes wide open and not even realise it was a trap after being caught by same trap.

All this will not help you here. Just admit that you lied and move along.

butterflylion:
Even my own comment you no fit grab. I said when things are thrown into the fray (you do not understand) I said it must catch big meat (you did not understand)

Now in ignorance you are asking me to show you what did not catch you but still caught you?



I knew you would not understand.

I do not understand you is the escape route you wanna take abi? You clearly stated that I said the bible is of divine origin and all I did was ask you to show me. You can't because you lied.

butterflylion:
Felixomor and kingebukasblog please Abeg ejoor help me educate this man about his atheist creed which says you cannot use a negative to prove a positive

He says God is man's idea which is a positive to him and I said he should prove it because it's a negative to me and now he wants me to use my negative to prove his positive.

Why and how do they forget the tools of their arguments when arguing with theists especially when same parameters are used for them?

Plus proof does not necessarily need to be demonstrated in a specific way (according to dalaman) so I am vindicated.

Where is your evidence for your claim. You admitted you made a claim after I did mine bla bla bla. Where is the evidence for it? Did you just make an empty claim as usual?

butterflylion:
Caught, hook line and sinker

When things are thrown in the fray one must catch big meat such as it has done to you now.

So you could not deny the others ba?

Dull mind alert!

Where did I say it? You are to show me where I said it instead of typing gibberish away.

LightandDarkness:
Easy to see why you have this perception given your association with Dr Omor.

All these arguments are unnecessary, I think you should take a break and pray to god to ask the holy spirit what to say to dalaman to convince him.

Convince me ke. Can he even convince himself?

hopefulLandlord:
^who send this one?

If you ask him questions now he'll start baaing and mehing.

butterflylion:
Why all this stupidity from you all of a sudden? Go back to the beginning of this thread and read where you first made your claims. I made absolutely no claim and never did until way way further down after repeatedly asking you for your evidence and when you refused and kept talking the same bullshyte I simply responded based on your own comments.

Are you now blind as well?

But you did make some claims as you just admitted. Where are the evidence for your own claim? Where is it? Where is the evidence that there is some "experience" that exist outside human ideas? Where is it?

butterflylion:
Did you not say the Bible as a book is divine? Further showing your zombification?

Where did I say this Mr lie lie. Where did I say it?

butterflylion:
Oh you gave evidence? Was your evidence what was required? In atheism is there sufficient evidence for God?

In theism is there sufficient evidence for no God?

You are indeed a confused fellow.

You made a claim and when asked to defend your claim with specifics you jumped into my ship and demanded that I show you mine when I made absolutely no claim ooo.

You no well I swear down.

You made a claim that God exist outside man made ideas by saying that you believe in an experince that is outside human ideas. I simply asked you to show me that experince that exist outside human ideas. I just simplified it for you. Show us the God that exist on its own without human input(ideas). Is that too much for you?

BlueAngel444:
If a baby could understand calculus there would be hope for you. For the wisdom of God I speak of, is far greater than your puny mind.

To have been used as an opportunity to reach out to others, after all there are vessels unto dishonor the Lord makes use of.


It's better to be a slave to God Almighty that loves me than a friend to carnality, your so called humanity filled with hatred, greed, lust and unforgiveness, hurt people emotionless and hateless.

Trust me what you think of me is irrelevant

You fear death, I dont
It's your end, my passage

So God has wisdom and you are the one speaking about it. Why should you be the one speaking about the wisdom of an omni max entity? My friend you better stop smoking that wee wee. I don't even know what to make of the rest of the nonsense you wrote up there. Just stop smoking that wee wee.

butterflylion:
Guy go and sleep. You are dull with a capital D for Dalaman.

You keep vomiting the same things regardless of how idiotic it makes you look despite how I analytically showed you how stupid your arguments are and how unrelated they are to your own very claim.

Such a pity!

If I call you a fool now you'll start baaing and mehing. You did nothing. All you did was ask for what you can't give. Did I give evidence for my assertions? yes I did. Did I tell you to provide any evidence to counter it? Yes I did. Were you able to do that? No, you weren't. So what nonsense are you on about? Let me repeat what I told you to do from my first post till now that you couldn't.

Show me a God that exist on its own without human input and show me the believe system that such a God created on its own without human input. You are insisting that there is a God that exist on its own. Show that God and show how it exist on its own without any human input. Also show me the proof and tangible evidence that was probably polroof to you before you believed.