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felixomor:
The bible has thousands of prophecies.
But people like u who only read it from google arguments are the ones who make comments like this u just made.

You said the context is what is happening in that particular church. How do you know it doesn't apply to other churches since everything happened to a particular people. All of Pauls letters were addressed to a particular people. Why don't you just leave it as that? That is a letter addressed to so so and so , since all his letters were addressed to a particular people. Why take any of it and apply to your life since non was addressed to you?

Biodun37:
l already discovered many fools amongst you who easily quote part of Al-qurian out of context, but condemn similar action on bible in which you are one, hence l stopped reaction on such posts

Felixomor, someone is already accusing you of reading the Koran out of context. Do you agree?

felixomor:
Not everything.
Besides this only confirmz u have not read the bible.

Everything written in the bible happened to people that lived at least 2000 years ago.

When Paul says liars will end up in Hell. Is he referring to the liars of that time alone? If no , then how then do you know that he was referring only to the women of that time when he says it is shameful for women to speak in the church? Remember he still reiterated his position in his letter to Timothy.

felixomor:
The context is what was happening in that particular church.
Meanwhile u just lied that u "read it".
But i wont drag u, because lying is ok for some.

Everything in the bible happened to a particular people. Why then are you following the bible, since everything happened to a particular people?

MrMontella:
like conspiracy theories about catholics?

randomperson:
That one wont tell u anything... He will just keep mentioning context like a programmed robot

I tire oo.

felixomor:
Of course, part of my resolution is not to pamper such..


Go read it first..

I've read it. Part of the verse says.

if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in church.

What is the context? It is a shame for women to speak in church it says. What is the context?

MrMontella:
i just they look am they laff...
Its the same trinitarians that'd say jesus was yahweh of the old testament

confused beings

They'll say Jesus is Yahweh, the next minute some of them will deny the statement.

felixomor:
First go and read it entirely.

I want you to tell me.

felixomor:
Do u believe Jesus is God?

I said according to the story. I was just repeating what the story stated.

felixomor:
I keep telling u.
If u dont read the whole bible, dont ask questions
It makes u look like a fool.

In the era of Paul, even Philip had 3 daughters who prophesied in the church.
Aquinas and Priscilla were active in church...
There were many women who worked in early church
Timothy's mother and grandmother worked in church etc

If u keep quoting Paul's letters out of context or any other part of the bible,

You will keep looking like a fool...

What is the context of Paul's letter?

felixomor:
Is it not funny that anytime these nairaland keyboard atheists want to criticize Christians, they never find anything to bring from what Jesus Christ taught people to do?

Mscheww...
SMH

Is Jesus not God again according to the bible ? It's funny how ou guys rush to the OT to point to most of the moral.teachings of the bible but get angry when shown immoral teachings from the same OT.

You'll happily point to the 10 commandments but when shown sexism in the same OT you'll start blabbing on Jesus and what he said or did not say.

KingEbukasBlog:
You do realize this has absolutely nothing to do with the argument : this is a red herring .

Its not. Do you also accept the opposite position of the Jews on other matters?

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol .

Even after I posted the snippet ?

The deists criticize the use of anthropomorphic characteristics for God like Xenophanes did here :

https://www.nairaland.com/3504236/xenophanes-criticism-anthropomorphism-vs-triune

I remember asking you for your opinion on that thread .

The difference between the deist concept and theist concept is

1. Anthropomorphism

2. Nature of God as a personal or impersonal creator (Immanence)

All deists reject anthropomorphism , while some deists see God as an Impersonal creator and some see him as a personal creator . Some deists and theists see God as both .

Any knowledgeable scholar from any religion will tell you the same thing . The contentious issue that knowledgeable scholar will note is : which concept of this God is true ?

This is so easy to understand . Its obvious that you are being disingenuous . Don't forget , I won't let you have insomnia .

A deist that sees God as an Impersonal being is not the same as a theist that sees God as a personal being.

To claim that both ideas are the same is to be dishonest. They two ideas are not the same. Both of the concept of God are equally valid or invalid in reality since both and just conceived ideas. Non is true over the other. Both are either true or untrue. Since both are man made conceptions and ideas.

KingEbukasBlog:
How do I know ? This is what the Jews , the owners of the bible say:

( I had to increase the page size )

This is fact whatever beside this is an opinion , your opinion

Do you also accept the Jewish position on Jesus? They said nothing in the OT talks about or refers to Jesus. The Jews see the garden of eden story as man’s elevation to a moral sense and awareness, while christians on the other hand see the eden story as the fall of man. Jews do not recognize and believe the original sin hypothesis while christians do. Do you believe the position of the Jews on those issues or do you only believe them when they state things you are gree with?

KingEbukasBlog:
That is way way way better than your brothers who destroyed the lives of over 200 million in the name of atheism

In case your forgot

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

https://www.nairaland.com/2988881/atheism-terrorism-annihilation-quest-atheistic

Better than some God that was written to drawn the whole world because of disobedience.

KingEbukasBlog:
I wonder how many times I'm gona tell you that personal characteristics attributed to God in the bible were just to make this enormously powerful being or force or however you chose to understand it as comprehensible to the human reader . Sitting on the throne , talking , laughing at enemies are just part of God's anthropomorphic characteristics .

What am simply saying is that even among the God believers there is no consensus on the nature of who or what God is. Every body just imagine God the way he/she wants God to be. What you just describes is your own opinion of what God is supposedto be. Other sincere christians and even those who wrote the bible have a different view of God. How do you know that the authors of the bible were not literal in their description of God. It is just like people that refuse to acceptmany things in the bible and claim that they are allegories. Exodus, Noahs flow etc.

Some of the deists see God as an Impersonal creator while in Christianity/Judaism God is seen as both Impersonal and a Personal creator .
Its just one God with so many concepts.

Not the same God idea. I understand the need for you to accept or try to converge all the God concepts and ideas into one. They are not. Deist do not have the same concept of God with theist else they will be theist.

For the fact you have remained intransigent about your parochial view on God , its certain that this new knowledge of God challenges your beliefs . Its so obvious sir

But don't forget , if remaining obdurate about this view lets you sleep at night, I won't let you have insomnia .

I have made my points.

I knew they'll deny it.

My question is who started the "give a fuckkkkk" trend on nairaland? The person needs to be arrested.

KingEbukasBlog come and see your brothers and sisters.

I get one question wey I wan ask. Abeg na who start this "who gives a fuckkkkk" trend on nairaland ?

I get one question wey I wan ask. Abeg na who start this "who gives a fuckkkkk" trend on nairaland ?

Who started this "who gives a fuckkkkkk" trend on nairaland?

KingEbukasBlog:
That is the accepted doctrine . It is not literal . Anyone who believes it is literal should have a rethink . I once thought it was literal. Immediately I discovered this , instantaneously I accepted it . It made so much sense .

You reject this because it makes you uncomfortable as an atheist- it challenges your beliefs .

It doesn't challenge my beliefs. Am just pointing out the fact that many sincere christians disbelieve what you are saying and even the bible does not agree with what you are saying. The bible in many places describe God sitting on a throne. In many places. I careless of God is a force as the deist believe.

The way you pontificate and try to act as you own the only true interpretation or opinion.

KingEbukasBlog:
https://www.nairaland.com/2931676/dealing-misconceptions-receive-mansions-heaven

https://www.nairaland.com/3000111/dealing-misconceptions-does-god-literally

They are not misconceptions. You are just presenting your own opinions as facts. You want people not to accept what is written isside the bible. Some of you guys will insist that the bible doesn't really mean what it says just because you do NOT agree with what is written. It's people like you that will insist that the Noah 's flood is an allegory and other such nonsense. Where is it written inside the bible that God's throne is what you are trying to suggest it is? The bible is filled with detailed description of God's throne, in fact God told Moses to build the temple based on what the one in heaven looked like. But yu keep insisting that it is not so based purely on personal interpretation and opinion.

The people in answers in Genesis for example believe in a literal interpretation. They are very sincere christians. Which holy spirit is telling you something different from them? They also claim.they get their correct teachings from the holy spirit. Who is telling the truth among you? What is the true position of the bible God on these issues? Does God want to know if his abode is physical as described in the bible and beliwvwd by many christians, or not as you are claiming?

I don't want your opinion, I want what the bible really says. Is there a biblical position on these issue?

KingEbukasBlog:
God is not confined to a particular location so its not totally reasonable to ask 'where is God'? That would totally contradict its omnipresent nature But we can say the fullness of God is in Heaven ( a different plane of existence ) and Its divine power permeates through all that exists

Asking where God was before creating the universe is very reasonable. Heaven as described in the bible is a place that contains matter. Angels sing in heaven. They have trumpets, God sits on a throne etc. Does matter exist in heaven?

And since God is timeless it is not totally right to say ask what It was doing before he created the universe - this suggests that there was time before the creation of the universe . Its not like you hold the view that God endured through an infinite past time before the moment of creation - God become temporal immediately It brought the universe into being .

It is totally right. Was God existing timelessly? How can something exist timelessly? Before God created the universe he must have taken that decision at some point. So how can God exist without time? How was he able to do that?

God created the universe primarily for the existence of life , intelligent life , free moral agents to whom It'll reveal Itself to and have an eternal relationship with .

If the universe was created primarily for the existence of life then why does most part of the universe destroy intelligent life? 99.999999999 percent of the universe will immediately destroy intelligent life. So how is the universe created primarily for intelligent life?

KingEbukasBlog:
God is eternal.God did not create itself .

Where was God before he created the universe? What was he doing and why did he create the universe?

4everGod:
he cant see it

So much dodgicology has made him unable to keep up with his numerous lies. You know one very bad thing about lying is when you need to ensure you remember every single one you told so you would be able to keep defending them with other lies. The moment you slip up its all over and that is what has happened to Dalaman.

You are the one that has been lying . After saying that you will lie to protect people from terrorist which you called wisdom, you later decided to label it a lay up move. No be only lay up. Na slam dunk.

KingEbukasBlog:
Live feed can be tampered with . Ask the International Space Station

Na so

KingEbukasBlog:


Skeptics would say that

1. It could be a folie à plusieurs

2. That the live feed was tampered with


How would you then make them accept that the miracle actually happened ?

Which live feed? Bring a certified amputee. Heal him on live TV and people will believe. It's that simple.

KingEbukasBlog:
Thank you sir .

But you have not responded to my question

Which one?

KingEbukasBlog:
You can bring an amputee along

But hold on , there was a 'testimony' that made front page sometime about a baby without a vagina who now got one . It is swept aside as fake by the non believers . How are you going to actually persuade them that an amputee indeed got his arm regenerated .

A baby without vagina abi? . An amputees leg will be seen being restored live na.

KingEbukasBlog:
The church business' is to preach the spread the gospel to so many unbelievers and set free anyone who has been bound by sicknesses , personal problems etc by the power of Jesus.

You could try it yourself

When will an amputee be healed Ebuka?