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damogul:It is because obviously meaning can be drawn from life. I do not believe in religious creationism. |
felixomor:It is a lie they are not the same thing. Life has no universal meaning. If it does tell me the universally accepted meaning of life. Life has individual meaning but it doesn't have a universal acceptable meaning. You remain a liar until you some that the universal meaning of life is and how it is universally accepted. |
DoctorAlien:A chistian is a mindless and indoctrinated zombie and has no reason not to be one. |
felixomor:Life has no universal meaning is what I said. I did not say that life has no meaning. By universal meaning I mean life has no universally accepted meaning. The meaning of.life to a christian is very different to that of a muslims and that is also different to that of a Hindu or Taoist. Life has no universal meaning Isn't the same as life has no meaning. I Clearly stated that life has meaning and the meaning is what we hose to make of it. You remain a liar. |
damogul:Yes it is. |
damogul:I am not talking about meaning of life but showing that the meaning of life varies and isn't universal that is why I used religion to prove my point. What is the difference between the notorious atheist in history and your biblical prophets what went about with your murderous God killing and anhilating others in your bible. What is the difference between Moa and Josh or Moses in the bible? All were genocidal psycophats who went about killing people en mass. |
damogul:That remains hos opinion and his alone. Most other atheist do not subscribe to that philosophy. I don't know why you are pained by that. |
damogul:The fact remains life's meaning is what ever you chose to make of it. I noticed that you are pained dyer your lies about aheism and nihilism have been debunked. You have now resorted to an alpha atheist is a nihilist bla bla bla. You clearly do not know what you are talking about. I do not use the religious to talk about the meaning of life . I only use the religious to show that life has various meanings to different reli6groups and doesn't have a universal meaning as some religious people falsely claim. |
DoctorAlien:A true christian is a mindless zombie and absolutely has no reason not to be one. |
damogul:So what if some people are nihilistic? Others believe in destroying humanity for their God. |
DoctorAlien:Even with God life has different meanings to various religious people. The meaning of life for a Hindu is different to that of a muslim and both of them believe in God. So you see even with the Gods that allegedly created life, life has no universal meaning. |
felixomor:Where did I say that life has no meaning? Point it out you liar. |
KingEbukasBlog:Diagoras was the first person in Greko Roman culture to OPENLY show disbelief in the Gods. Remember it was a capital offence at that time so many hide their disbelief because they will be kills if they came out openly. Before him in India there were atheist atheist. |
felixomor:What is man saying? ![]() I said life has no universal meaning to all humans. That is a fact. You can NOT dispute it because you know it is a fact. Life has meaning to individuals but it is not universally accepted. That is a statement of fact and not contradictory in any way. Pls what do you mean by when I personally do not find something that exist universally in the universe I am deluded? |
damogul:I acknowledged in my post earlier that some people are nihilist. Atheism has nothing to do with nihilism. I am an atheist and I am not a nihilist. Only one atheist here subscribe to that philosophy. You on the other hand are shamelessly ting to insinuate that atheist are al nililist until I called you out on that. |
felixomor:How do you jump from life has no universal meaning to living a life of delusion like religious people? I am stating facts whIle you are just shooting blanks. |
damogul:Upset about what? I am just calling you out on your dishonesty. You tried to say that atheist are nihilist until I challenge you to name one atheist apart from the one we all know about here on nairaland and his statement in support of nihalism but you couldn't, instead you went on some imaginary extrapolation on atheiesm and nihilism saying that so so amount of atheist are nihilist out of some numbers you imagined in your head. ![]() |
felixomor:You have no point my friend. I stated a fact that you can't dispute. Life has no universal meaning that os why the meaning of life varies amongst individuals. If you disagree and insist that life has a universal meaning the state the universal meaning and show me how it is acceptable by all human beings. Life has meaning and the meaning is what ever you chose to make of it. People give their lives meaning for different reasons. You are just begging the question with your porous argument. Even with God life has various meanings to those that subscribe to the God idea because there are various Gods. The meaning of life to a muslim is diffrent from that it a Hindu for example and both of them believe in God. Even with God life has diffrent meanings. So you see, you have no point. |
damogul:So what if one out of 500 atheist here is a nihilist? we have end of day Christain enthusiasts that can not wait for the armegedon. They are ernestly praying for it and can't wait for it to come. Islamic terrorist are also there trying to establish the caliphate. You don't seem to have any point. Nilhalism is a philosophy that some people subscribe to. To claim that all atheist are nihilist is a shameless and dishonest and that is what you are shamelessly trying to insinuate. |
felixomor:The above remains your own dishonest spin. The truth of the matter is that life has no universal meaning. You CAN NOT show me that life has any universal meaning. I have shown you cleary that life has no universal meaning. The meaning of the life of a muslim is very different from that of a Buddhist and that I'd also very diffrent from.that of a Hindu. Life has no universally accepted meaning. The meaning of life is what ever we chose to make of it and that is the fact and reality. It seems you are more interested in arguing aimlessly and shooting blanks. |
damogul:Just the same way the way about 1.8 billion know that Allah exist. The same.KNOWING of Allah has changed their own lives worldwide. In reality what you call knowing is nothing but systematic indoctrination. |
DoctorAlien:Its left for you to study the humanist philosophy and chose whether to accept it or discard it based on its merits and demerits. I am.not the one to tell you what to do. |
felixomor:What is the universal meaning of life to all humans? Prove to me that life has the same.meaning to all humans. |
damogul:Only one atheist so far as stated that life is meaningless here on NL. If you know of any other state his name and qoute where he said it. Life has meaning and the meaning is what ever we chose to ascribe to it. |
felixomor:I derive meaning from various things for my life. Different things give me meaning and shape my life. As I said life has NO universal meaning. We all.pick and chose what ever it is we want to give us meaning and purpose. |
DoctorAlien:Atheism is simply the disbelief in the existence of Gods. Meaning can be found in various philosophies of life. An atheist can be a humanist for example. Religion isn't the only philosophy that gives life meaning. There are atheistic religions like Buddhism so you clearly do not even know what you are talking about by insinuating that atheism view life as meaningless. Many atheist subscribe to the buddist philosophy and strive to archive nirvana and they see that as the meaning and purpose of their lives. |
felixomor:Life has meaning but the meaning of life is whatever you choose to make of it. Life has no universal meaning. We all chose the meaning we want to attach to life. To a muslim life's meaning is to submit his/herself to the will of Allah as a loyal slave To a Buddhist life's meaning is to achieve nirvana, to a christian is to achieve salvation in the life to come, to a hedonist life's meaning is to gain as much sensual pleasure as possible, to a sadistic psychopath life's meaning is to inflict as much pains and sorrow on others. A humanist sees the meaning of life as making sure you preserve life and maintain social justice. Life does have meaning to people. It just depends on whatever you choose to accept as the meaning of life. Nihalist are the ones that see life as meaningless. |
felixomor:Only one atheist on nairaland believes life is meaningless. Apart from him can you name another athiests here that holds that position? When they believe morality is subjective?Morality is indeed subjective. |
4kings:His sheer dishonesty can be seen by all. He goes about shamelessly lying that atheism was invented by Diagoras when in reality he was just the first person to openly state his unbelief without fear in classical Greece because at that time disbelief in the Gods was a capital crime. Many before him denied the existence of the Gods but were afraid of openly stating it. Even socrates before him was accused of atheism because he didnt believe in the existence of the Gods but was quiet about it. |
KingEbukasBlog:Will you stop this shameless lie. You read a little thing take it out of context and give it a life of it's own. Atheism has been with man since the inception of time. Diagoras was the first person in classical Greece and Rome to openly come out and blaspheme by making public the Eleusinian Mysteries and discouraging people from being initiated. During their time going against the Gods was a capital punishment. From wikipedia it says. "Historically, any person who did not believe in any deity supported by the state was fair game to accusations of atheism, a capital crime". Socrates that lived before Diagoras was accused of being atheos ("refusing to acknowledge the gods recognized by the state" . He was formally accused of not believing in the Gods by Meletus. Enough of your lies . There have been atheist even during the Vedic period(iron age) in India.From wikipedia it says : " Ideas that would be recognized today as atheistic are documented from the Vedic period and the classical antiquity". Enough of your lies that atheism was invented by Diagoras. Socrates before him was accused of atheism for refusing to recognized the Gods sanctioned by the state at that time. Enough of your lies. Before them people were already inventing religions without deities in Asia. Buddha was considered to be an atheist himself and created a religion that had nothing to do with the Gods. |
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alBHAGDADI:Again your opinion. |
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. He was formally accused of not believing in the Gods by Meletus. Enough of your lies . There have been atheist even during the Vedic period(iron age) in India.