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KingEbukasBlog:
I am ok with my prayers being answered . You want more , you do more - its simple . There are strong atheists who have witnessed God's goodness and opted for a turn around . You can try by talking to them and seeing their reasons . Make efforts and God who sees the heart will reveal himself to you

Everything that exists in our material/physical world points towards a creator . Our abilities to create point towards a maker . Just like robots are made of plastics , metals and other constituents , we are made up of flesh and bones , and God is a spirit.

You just assume a creator. There is no signature of any God written on any things that we see around in nature, when humans create things they write their names on them or put their signature so that people will know that they created them, Nothing in nature carries the name or signature of any God, you are only ascribing your assumptions on things. What if I say that everything in nature points towards Brahma and not your own version of God what will you say? How can you show me that the God of the bible created the world and not Brahma of the Hindus?

KingEbukasBlog:
I said same way I know charms are used for miracles and the practice of mysticism - this shows some "other force" could do such things . Hian ! I didnt say God did not do it .

God is a wise being , caring and nice . His power can reach out to anyone he pleases - that's what I believe

I am not interested in your beliefs, am only interested in what is real. So you believe your God answer when the muslims and Hindus pray to another God. Are you confused?

KingEbukasBlog:
Yes . The same way I believe that some fake pastors / pagans use charms to perform miracles and practice mysticism

So it's not God that healed them but some other force other than God maybe the devil or something else. So you see, you refuse to belive very sincere muslims and Hindus when they tell you about their Gods performing wonders in their lives, you attribute it to something else but you still want others to believe you. Can you see the hypocrisy you are displaying?

KingEbukasBlog:
@ dalaman ... the body has a propensity to heal wounds/injuries/fractures . Nature decided on its own will to give it such ability? Am overwhelmed by the ignorance you've shown

Your ignorance is God. You haven't demonstrated that any God exist talk more of healing anybody. I asked you to describe God to me in details so that when I encounter it I will know it is God and not some other phenomenon, you refused meaning your God remains in your imaginations. You claim God is alive and exist but you can not even describe it and show that it exist. Yet you still say that I am ignorant.

KingEbukasBlog:
@dalaman ... why will I lie or hold unto a false belief ? Just to make a nonexistent being happy ? I felt bad inside when you insinuated that I was lying .

The atheists are certainly not looking for the evidence to believe in God , they choose not to .

Do you believe Hindus and muslims who claim that Allah and Brahma healed them after praying to them? Be sincere please.

KingEbukasBlog:
1.I prayed to God to heal my badly swollen twisted ankle in my 200L and He did

A twisted joint or ankle will eventually heal on it's own with or without treatment. It has been shown that some cancers go into remission on their own without any treatment. Your ankle just needed time to heal.

2.Prayers were made to God about my nightmares when I was 10 or so . From that evening to the prayer was made till now , Ive never had those nightmares

Nightmares come and go on their own without prayers. As a believer I used to have nightmares, but since I stopped believing in the supernatural I stopped experiencing any form of nightmare.

3.For 4 yrs I did pray for God to give me the best room mates and He never failed me

Some people have room mates that are better than yours and they don't even believe in God.

4. I was once down with fever - JS3 or so - and my mum prayed for me and instantly the fever disappeared

I smell exaggeration.

5. When I was a baby I smashed my head against the metal gate of our old house . According to my mum , she saw my left eye or so was really red , the affected area was an obnoxious sight to behold . She like threw away her face in grief and turned seconds later to take a look at it again and the whole thing was gone . No red eye , no injuries , my face , my head were plain smooth . I cant remember her even saying she said a word of prayer .

Etc etc etc . I could go on all day . My life is a testimony

Perhaps she didn't see it well.

So you were saying that prayer does not ...

Non of these mundane things suggest anything extra ordinary. Both people that believe in your God and those that don't all experience them.

KingEbukasBlog:
Ive not read a Koran or the other one , so I can't say . Ehya ... malvingsguy was a muslim and has possibly read the two books . You can ask him

You don't need to read the Koran, over a billion people have read it and have decleared and affirmed that it is the word of God. Who is malvisguy? Many pastors have read the Koran and became muslims.

KingEbukasBlog:
I have not seen God but I he responds to my requests . I pray and he answers . Prayer is a means of communicating with God . You can pray if you want something from Him .

When you pray to God does he speak to you? Which request of yours does God respond to? I bet you, your life is no different from the life of another person that prays to another God or an atheist that prays to no God at all. There is nothing that you have or you will ever have that a person praying to another God doesn't have or a person that doesn't pray at all does not posses. Prayer has not been demonstrated to work any where. People believe that prayers work but in reality it doesn't. That is why there is no evidence to show that those who pray have things easier or better than those who do not pray at all.

KingEbukasBlog:
Like I said I have mandate . I draw my strength , inspiration from the word of God . Where do you draw yours ?

Word of God or word of men that ascribe it to God idea they invented? The Koran is also the word of God, so also is the Egyptian book of the dead and the hindu vedas. All are word of God. Do you agree, why or why not?

KingEbukasBlog:
The nonexistence of God is only what you imagined and are being indoctrinated with

Describe God to me in details so that if I encounter it I will know that it is God and not some other phenomenon. Go ahead.

respect80:
Perhaps you gotta start preaching atheistic gospel so we can see which side wins the battle because I believe if you so wish you won't spend as much time as you have searching for facts to disprove God's existence before you understand he's real.

People fail to believe God exist especially when they fail to understand these 2 facts below :

1.They have failed to understand the power of the Holy Spirit who is capable to minister to your mind body and soul
2.they have also failed to understand the power of the devil who is also capable to minister to your mind body and soul.

If you can't decode those two above then you are the most suitable prey to the devil

The holy spirit that can not even tell christians which direction to take? The devil is another fictitious character just like God.Both are imaginary entities.

KingEbukasBlog:
How can an imagination leave the work for me to the tell others .

You are very confused

You are your God, you just want others to believe what the imagined and indoctrinated you with. If your God exist you will not tell any body about it. It will do that by itself. Christians have to tell others about Yahweh, just as muslims have to tell others about Allah and Hindus have to tell others about Brahma, all man made Gods that need men to do everything for them because they are man made inventions.

KingEbukasBlog:
Check your mentions ? Stop being hypocritical ... its pathetic

I can't remember interacting with the moniker. You made the claim so provide the evidence.

KingEbukasBlog:
2 Timothy 4: 1- 2


Everyone wants to worship God in his convenient way - heeding not to sound true doctrine

It does not mean God does not exist . Na wa oo .

When will God come out and set them straight? Why is God leaving the work for you to tell others? Except if such a God lives only in your head, which is the reality of the matter.

KingEbukasBlog:
they ascribed to a divine entity they imagined and made up ?

You didnt address Anas09's questions the other day . You ran like a coward when posed with pragmatic questions . Pfft

Which questions are you talking about? Yeah, the God of the bible was imagined by the people that wrote the bible that is why his attributes are often contradictory within the bible.

respect80:
If you know this, then why are you so obsessed about God's existence perhaps this same scientists may discover the truth sooner or later...

I am not obsessed with God's existence, I am obsessed with human beings that buy into the idea. Gods do not exist, but humans that think and assume that Gods exist, they are whom I interact with. Scientist will never discover any God, not the Gods of man made religions, those Gods are all man made.

frank317:
Good. The next thing is.... We start exchanging words over an imaginery being who is no where to be found. At the end of the day u will end up showing no proof of where the hell he is. It just does not make sense. So as you type u actually think u are speaking on behalf or for the supposedly intelligent all powerful creator? Like is this a joke?

I thought of picking ur replies one after the other but then... I just thought... So this guy is speaking for the intelligent creator who created the unimaginable universe filled with awe? I had to stop...

If you think anything u said up there prooves ur God, Then ur God must be one big joke. The fact is that I am yet to see any proof of Yahweh or Allah. And in all sincerity, if they actually exist, I am here and waiting for them to make me aware. If they can't, then I see no reason why you are even replying me... Are u God?

Imagine him defending or trying to explain the existence of an all powerful being that is alive and can do all things to others. The worst part is that he is failing terribly at it. No God that truly exist will allow an incompetent person like him to talk on it's behalf or defend it. No God that is alive will do that. Only a God that exist only in his head will allow that because it exist oly inside his brain.

respect80:
Yes it is only the Bible messages that contradicts but scientific theories do not because saying that humans are expected to give birth to humans and saying man evolved from a smaller cell means the same.

Scientific theories are man made and every body acknowledges that fact, a lot of them have been modified and discarded. The bible is the work of men whom they ascribed to a divine entity they imagined and made up, that is why it is to be believed on faith not based on objective evidence.

KingEbukasBlog:
What about others who have the same message ? The same God warns of false prophets . A christian should know the true message because Christ is in Him

Most have different messages and they all claim that they have Jesus in them, why shouldn't they be believed? Who are the false prohets among Chris Oyahkilome, T.D Jakes, Pastor Kumuyi and the Catholic Pope for example? Why are all their messages and doctrines different? Every christian claims christ lives in him or her. But we all know that they are just making it up because christ lives only in their heads.

KingEbukasBlog:
Some people use the word "deluded" without even knowing it means :

We say God exists and 6.5 billion people out of a possible 7.2 billion know he exists because of the numerous physical/natural and supernatural evidences - supernatural encounters , miracles , NDEs , healings . The miserly <500 million who fail to acknowledge this hold a false belief and still remain obdurate about it without seeing the need why these myriad of people hold unto their belief - that's delusion or being deluded

You keep displaying your delusions all the time. There are different Gods and Goddesses that different people subscribe to in the world today. According to people of other faiths your own God is a false God just as you believe the Gods of others is false. NDEs has nothing to do with God, it can be invoked using certain kind of drugs or under certain laboratory conditions. No clear cut healing using any God has been established anywhere. Like healing of an amputee, something very clear cut. Why can't any God heal amputees and restore their amputated limbs back?

There are about over a billion atheist, agnostics and irreligious people in the world, but it is not by numbers. There was a time when the whole world thought the earth was flat with the exception of a very few people. Truth and reality has nothing to do with numbers.

KingEbukasBlog:
This is not just pointless but senseless . Atheists :

God does not exist because we cant see him or hear from Him. The people who have seen Him and heard from Him are hallucinating or are mentally unstable .

LMAO ... sounds like an intelligent thing to say though

Does the christian religion look like a religion whose God entity exist outside the imaginations of the believers? Look at the countless different sects in the religion with their different conflicting messages, and all of the claim that this same God that is sending different conflicting and contradictory messages to them speaks to them. Is it the same God that speaks to Pastor Kumuyi of deeper life the same God that speaks to Pastor Oyakilome of Christ embassy or Reverend T.D Jakes? Why do they all claim to be speaking to the same God yet their messages are all very different and contradictory?

Are you trolling?

I have been following the arguments of the theist on this thread and it just boils down to " Our ignorance is God". What they don't know or do not understand they say it's God.

tartar9:
whats wrong if they wish for america to be governed by Shariah,you want to say you don't wish for america to follow the so-called "biblical principles"

The USA was not founded on any religion. It's a secular country that has no religious edict as its guiding principle.

Demmzy15:

You must be drinking your portion of the camel piss that Mohammed recommended for you, since all you can do is shine your 32 with a wide grin. Enjoy your camel piss, and hope it cures you of what ever it is that is afflicting you.

Demmzy15:

When they refuse to accept muslims or state that muslims can never rule them people like you will still complain.

freecocoa:
I don't see how not going to church makes one a pariah, the difference between them and other kids is they won't have to believe the nonsense being peddled.

It does in a society like Nigeria. Won't they go to school and interact with other kids?

freecocoa:
Jay, just this morning, someone asked how my children will know right from wrong if I don't teach them about God? Saying that the fear of god is what tells one right from wrong, guy, I just weak, walai I couldn't say a word, was just staring at her with eyes wide open, her next words just broke my heart to pieces, she said "you see, without god and fear of him, everyone will be bad"

Like wtf?

Some quick and personal questions for you please. Are you married? Is your husband or father of your kids an atheist like you? Are you residing in Nigeria, if yes, how are you raising your kids without the belief in God in such a God filled society? Don't you feel you are just setting them up to be treated as pariahs in such a society? You don't have to answer the questions if you aren't comfortable with them. Thanks.

Krystalzkris:
sounds like a friend of mine who told me yesterday that I need god to be able to withstand pressure from bad actions,nd I was like,what's this guy talking abwt,almost all the bad guys on earth are theists,why did god not help them resist the pressure..

Nigeria is a perfect example of how belief in God has nothing to do with morality. Over 98% of Nigerians believe in God but see how morally rotten and bankrupt the country is.

Demmzy15:
It's an hajj duty which is compulsory, so you hating it doesn't change anything. So you could use one by taking a back sit!

It's a meaningless duty that has no effect in real life. That is my point. You can keep going there to enrich the Saudis.

Demmzy15:
Mumu who told you he's going to die?

So why stoning when the stoning has no real effect on anything. Tell me, how has stoning the devil improved the lot of muslims in the world or made their lives better?

American evangelical goons.

johnydon22:
You can imagine. . .It only shows such individuals lack basic independent basis for what they find to be moral and are dependent on abstract concepts and religious dogmas for morality.

These individuals i find to be dangerous because without the idea of an angy God who looks forward to burning them in fire they would have been killing and wreaking havoc where ever they go.

One should be good because of Goodness sake, because they want good to
happen, because they are empathic and compassionate towards others.
We have always affirmed that Empathy and compassion guides morality and these are human emotion.

I treated that absurd assertions here https://www.nairaland.com/2528015/unbeliever-why-bother-good

Don't be too hard on them. Just 6 or 7 years ago I used to reason like that. We were all once like that until we decided to read wide and open our minds to new knowledge.