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malvisguy212:
you are saying nonsense here , hell doesent exist ? For argument sake , okay. You supported the op (do not threatened little children with hell) okay, you are being threatened now (dalaman) do not smoke or you will die. *if you vex , go throw yourself from 10story building*

Smoking is real while hell is a fictional place.

Muslims have been stoning this elusive satan for over 1000 years but he has refused to die or be bothered. Religion really turns people into robots.

johnydon22:

But you are qualified to interpret the Quran. . . To be totally honest you are an epitome of hypocrisy..

He is just deluded.

malvisguy212:
I was replying the guy comment on how will those raised in others religion can be save.

@op. Let me ask you a question:
Is it wrong in reminding people that things like smoking, drinking alcohol, and tanning cause health risks, and even early death ? Your skin will look hideous if you don't do this, is this threat bad ? What is the different in telling someone don't smoke or you will die and tell a child , don't steal or you will burn in fire ? ( I don't support threatening children with hell ) but if you want to present your argument , do it without a bias mind , be irreligious, what you are doing here , you are trying to make evangelist look evil .

the most important thing @ op is how do you view all this as an atheist ? As a christian, this is how I view it ." Would the promise of $500 seem appealing? Sure. But now imagine that you were threatened to lose $500, unless you do something, and then you will get $500 profit. This would seem even more
appealing (getting $500) after thinking
you could lose $500.

Smoking, drinking alcohol, and tanning are real but heaven and hell are not real, they are fictitious and therein lies the big difference.

johnydon22:


Which is why you should teach children to be nice not threaten them into conformity.

Teach your children to be good to people because the world deserves goodness, that good is good to happen and because they should believe that there is good in the world and aspire to be good.

Not threaten them with fire in order to coerce them to submit to your idea of morality.

I have no problem with adults teaching the young ones, in fact my post supports and encourages it. My problem comes from threatening them. It instills psychological trauma and prison in their minds of which i know too well.

Teach them what they need to know not threaten them or instill fear to ensure submission.

The fear of roasting in hell still hasn't been able to make any society good or achieve any moral utopia.

Humans need some kind of fear to be in line sometimes. That is just the reality. Religions like christianity and islam use the fear excessively to their advantage which I personally feel is asinine.

winner01:
Dont be lazy, my post emphasized his book and film and not his life. Google is ur friend na.

No, but death has been overcome in my family, all glory to God.

Google it and bring the details. You are the one making the claim.

Death has been over come meaning no body in your family will die?

lexiconkabir:
mr man, just answer that question. i got things stock up for you.

Read the science books that talk about it and see what they have to say about it.

Webbet:
17 MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER IN LIFE.

1. Never give up on anything;miracles happen everyday.

2.Be brave even if you are not, pretend to be. No one can tell the difference.

3. Think big thoughts, relish small pleasures.

4. Learn to listen. Opportunity sometimes knocks very softly.

5. Never deprive someone of hope, it might be all they have.

6. Strive for excellence, not perfection.

7. Don't waste time greiving over past mistakes. Learn from them and move on.

8. When someone hugs you let them be the first to let go.

9. Never cut what can be untied.

10. Don't expect life to be fair.

11. Remember: Success comes to the one that acts first.

12. Never waste an oppurtunity to tell someone you love them.

13. Remember that nobody makes it alone. Have a greatful heart and be quick to acknowledge those who help you.

14. Never underestimate the power of a kind word or deed.

15. Laugh alot. A good sense of humor cures almost all of life's ills.

16. Don't miss the magic of the moment by focusing on whats to come.

17. Watch for big problems. They disguise big oppurtunities.


add yours

I love this.

winner01:
I've advised you people not to make use of the word open-mindedness ever again, let me add free-thinking to the list of words you'll should never ever use. Cos clearly your thinking is myopic and sealed. He wanted to make money?, the hospital and its doctors too wanted to make money?, the medical reports too were for profit? How much has he made since then? Why are you people like this? How do you live your life having to believe in a lie?.

My family is a testimony, I have tasted and seen that God is good. Does it matter if i tell you anymore testimonies, especially considering the fact that you've decided to close your heart.

Will you stop telling lies. Where did he state the name of the hospital and the name of any doctor? A guy claimed he died for 90 minutes 25 years ago and wrote a best selling book about it to make money from it. You on the other hand are trying to lie and say things he never claimed. He never mentioned the name of any hospital or doctor. Stop saying what he didn't say just because you want to promote an urban legend.

Has any body in your family who is an amputee received healing?

winner01:
Abi oo. The writings are on the wall, they can see it but they have hardened their hearts.

dalaman should visit this thread www.nairaland.com/2602223/90-minutes-heaven-how-don

Countless people have experienced miracles, me and my family have experienced miracles. I dont think atheists should use the word open-mindedness ever again.

So stop clock exist in heaven? A man wants to write a book and sell cos he wants to make money, you bought into the scam and decided to promote it. Which miracle did you and your family experience? Did any of your family member walk on water, raise from the dead after 3 days or raise any body that was dead for days? Did they heal any amputee ? Remember according to the biblical stories Jesus said that those that believe in him will perform more wonders than him. Until the day I see you or any christian walk on water or raise any body that has been dead for days. I'll just assume you guys are jokers.

KingEbukasBlog:
Its like asking someone when was the last time he sneezed Its like a common testimony in my church so writing down a hospital to verify if its true after the names of the hospitals are mentioned sounds like a dumb thing to do , to me .

I blogged about this story sometime . You should start applying for a visa I guess

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083373/Zack-Clements-Texas-claims-saw-Jesus-collapsing-gym-class-having-no-pulse-20-minutes.html

Better still enjoy the comments from the whites you worship

No where in the story does it say he was pronounced dead. Read my first comment on this topic.

lexiconkabir:
@dalaman, as usual always speculating. mr man, let me start with this question. when did scientists get know that plants has both male and female?

What has science got to do with this? This is about your claims of Islam having an origin other than humans. Something that you can not provide any objective evidence for. When you look at Islam, nothing separates it from other religions as the work and invention of men. Science explains everything about the world as we know it more than the koran can ever attempt to do. So quit crying about science and defend your bogus claims.

KingEbukasBlog:
this guy there are a thousand and one cases like that . Were you born yesterday or are you being hypocritical as usual

Therr are a thousand and one cases yet you can't provide the name of one verifiable hospital that pronounced a person dead and was resurrected by being prayed upon? Are you trolling?

lexiconkabir:
well, without the aid of lies, islam(peace acquired by submitting to the total will of Almighty God) isnt man made, not to talk of it being a conjecture. do yourself a favor, check the meaning of conjecture then come back lets continue.

You have this religion that men created(Mohammed and his cronies), they created the theology, created the stories, formed a tradition of out the religion and ascribed it to this God they conceived of just like every other religion and yet you have the audacity to say that islam isn't man made. If I ask you for evidence of a divine entity creating Islam you will point to a book that was written by men(The Koran) as evidence for it's divine origin. Islam like every other religion remains a man made creation. Men had to create the Islamic stories, men had to write the Koran(Nothing written inside the Koran could not be written by men or sounds like something that men could not have written), men had to spread the message and the culture they created out of the religion they created, men had to build all the Islamic temples and shrines, men had to and still fight for Allah to protect him when they feel people do wrong against him, men have to see to it that all the Islamic laws that were formed by them are enforced and followed, men have to do everything and yet Islam isn't a man made religion. Can you show any place where Allah did anything for himself in the History of Islam without the input of man? Even the Koran has to be interpreted and provided context by men because it's message is confusing and since it is men that are doing all the dealings, they will interpret it differently which is expected from something that is the work of men, all the tafsir and various Islamic schools of thoughts rely solely on men and their interpretation for everything. Yet Islam isn't a man made religion? Islam is just a conjecture like every other religion out there that is why Islam or any other religion type belief requires a person to be inserted inside that kind of culture at birth mostly or in some kind of way for it to make sense to the person. People that live outside the Islamic culture can not understand it or make any meaning of Islam just as muslims can not make any thing of out the Hindu religion.

lexiconkabir:
its simple, christianity is a MAN MADE CONJECTURE like the Qur'an described it.

And Islam isn't a man made conjecture too?

ekemini606:
there is God final!
And its not subject to argument.

There is no God but Allah that is final! Its not subject to argument.

Anas09:
If there's no God, meaning there's no supernatural, and no afterlife, how can u explain a situation where someone dies, i mean clinically dead. Doctors confirms him dead. No pulse, no brain activites for hours, only for the person to jeck back to life to tell about his/her experience in the other world?.

Please can you provide the name of the person, hospital and doctors?

An2elect2:
your post makes no sense, i will go with your signature any where

How will it make sense to you when it is the bitter truth? Aren't you worshipping a God idea brought to you by the white people?

An2elect2:
To y'all atheists....oh, your white gods are not going to ‘church’ anymore and you want us to do what? You couldn't even hide your inferiority complex. Lol.

What next now, Africans should start flying to space! because our lives are patterned after what whites do....jzzzzzzz i dont like saying this too but gerrrarrahere mehhn Your complex issues are affecting your brain cells

YYou are the one that is actually worshiping the white man. Your religion was forced on your ancestors by the colonial masters and slavers, if not cos the white people wanted slaves and raw materias you would have been worshiping another God not the one the white man concieved and created.

DP

malvisguy212:
isaiah say, they have chosen their own way, they delight in there abomination. When evangelist preach for the Good of the heare and they did not haken , knows that satanic manipulation is going on somewhere. Anyway thank you for your time, I will be praying for you.

I don't need your prayers. I will also pray to Allah for you.

malvisguy212:
Romans 1:21–22. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their
thinking, and their foolish hearts were
darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they
became fools,

As a result of man foolishness, God gave man to a deprived heart:
Romans 1:28
28 And since they did not see fit to
acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Please get sense, stop copying and posting thrash.

malvisguy212:
without you guys, this prophecy of falling away will not come too pass I know, you guys will not believe the truth, and why is that ? The answer is in 2 Thessalonians:
2 Thessalonians 2:10–12
10 and with all wicked deception for
those who are perishing, because they
refused to love the truth and so be
saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a
STRONG DELUSIONS, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in
unrighteousness.

It is man’s choice whether to accept and
believe the truth of Jesus Christ as
presented in the Scriptures. To receive
the truth and the love God offers is in
keeping with its teachings, “This is love
for God: to obey His commands” ( 1 John
5:3). Conversely, to know the truth and
not obey it is to face the wrath of God:
“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness” ( Romans 1:18).Frankly speaking, there is no more
dangerous condition for man than to
know the truth and refuse to obey it. To
do so is to harden the heart and make
God’s condemnation sure.

When will you stop copying and pasting thrash? Which truth do you know or hold? Since when has regurgitating ancient mythology become knowing or holding the truth?

tartar9:
the crane falling was an engineering fault by man,why are blaming God.

Because God is supposed to protect his own from such accidents. When the incident happened muslims all over the place where saying that God should protect the pilgrims. Does Allah truly protect anybody? The reality we see around says he doesn't.

malvisguy212:
did you read the part where the op say the white has gone spiritual? As an atheist, what's the different between believing in God and being spiritualist ?
@op
1 Timothy 1:4
The Spirit clearly says that in later times
some will abandon the faith and FOLLOW DECEIVING SPIRITS AND THINGS TAUGHT BY DEMONS.

Take a look at Nigeria and Africa as a whole compared to Europe and tell me which continent is following deceiving spirits. Your African brothers and sisters together with their Arab counterparts are risking their lives at see just to get to Europe a land that is flourishing without your mythical God idea. You are completely deluded.

Those superstition and fictions have already served their purpose to majority of the whites. Africans are mostly ignorant, hence our continuous attachment to the middle eastern mythologies.

menesheh:
Those fellows are immuned to any information that will change their mind. Christians in other hand can be prone to receiving some sorts of info that will change their mind but muslems, no no, death penalty for apostasy, banned internet based information sharing, don't discuss islam with non-muslem etc.

Islam has a type of fear it uses to keep it;s adherents in line that is second to non. Muslims really fear questioning Islam. You aren't supposed to question anything about the religion, just accept the Koran as the literal word of the creator of the entire world around you. Everything thing the Koran says is true. That is their starting point. The Koran is true regardless of anything and the fear that follows the acceptance of the tradition always makes sure that they can't be reasoned with. That is why they go about killing others in the name of their religion more. Muslims are ruled firstly by fear before any other thing. They idea they have of Allah is the God that can not be imagined , quantified or reasoned with, he is God almighty and they are his slaves that need to submit to his will at all times. They are not in any relationship with this Allah idea of theirs unlike the christians.

Muslims don't have the same idea of God as christians, questioning God and his actions is tantamount to blasphemy which is considered almost as an unforgivable sin in Islam. Muslim grant Allah the full right as their master to do what ever he likes, and I hear muslims say that if You die in Mecca you will go straight to paradise(don't know how true that is according to Islamic theology) but many muslims pray they die in Mecca. Muslims don't and can never blame Allah, what ever he does or allows is right. That is why no matter how hard they curse Israel and the US they keep losing all the wars they fight against them, but they will never for once sit down and reason why they keep losing such wars with the alleged all powerful creator of the universe on their side. They can't even reason that perhaps all these stories they were feed with are false that is why things are always going against them in the world. Because the reality is muslims are second fiddles in the world and have always been.

The OP is just trolling.

menesheh:
They choose vague evidence to methodological naturalism. It is just unfortunate.

Or outright fraud in most cases. I dare him to come up with what ever so called manifestation of his God or religious experience and I promise to equally provide videos of people of other religions doing or observing same from their own religions and using the name of their own Gods and religious scriptures, some videos I will post here might outmatch his own. Is it claims of healing, apparitions, afterlife testimony, exorcism, name it, what ever christian video he brings I will match it with videos of people of other faiths. They just keep throwing thrash, these are people that hardly know anything about other religions apart from the thrash they have been feed about those religions, yet they keep talking as if their religion is the only religion, only a fool that hasn't studied other religions will talk the way these deluded people talk.

Anas09:
@dalaman, if you are not on a quest you won't know what I mean. Every religion have a version of who christ is according to them. What I wrote is my submission.

This is also not true.