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Esdb3:
'And the earth was void and without form and darkness was upon the face of the deep and God said, let there be light'. THis sounds like your bullshittttt that I quoted? Ani you are dull and this is probably the last I'll text you'll get from me. I deal with brilliant atheists like johnydon22 not mumu poverty pushed into atheism mindless chickens likee your royal stuupidity. Nitwit, what then do you believe in? You don't believe in science's theory of how man came into existence? So how did man come? you are just living, you have no purpose.

Neither the scientists nor the ignorant deluded fools that wrote the bible know the real truth about how life came about. Both are just guessing. I am ok with I don't know unlike you that have been indoctrinated into believing the writings of fools who thought the earth was in existence before the sun was created. You remain an slowpoke cretin.

ah swar you are a dullard. What do you even know? Go and tell that to an over 60 years old woman who delivered twins after doctors told her she had no chance of child birth again. She gave the testimony after praying in camp. Tell that again to me who was jaundiced and weak for 3 months at birth that the only viable passage for blood was my head. And oh mumu I got healed after prayers to God. See if you have never received answers don't think everybody is unfortunate like the failure of a lineage that has a virus-infested and diseased
bread crumb of a human like you in its annals.[

So because some nameless and unknown people were told to tell lies that they received healing at a christian gathering in other to enrich some foolish, lying and deceitful pastor means I should believe the lies? You remain an imbecilic cretin. Didn't you bible recommend prayers for those that are sick? Why are the hospitals filled with christians including pastors? Is there any evidence to show that those that pray to your foolish imaginary God for healing get healed faster than people of other religions or those that have no religion at all? You a senseless

ignoramus, get your facts right, Jesus was born in a white man's land by people from the white race so you are such a cretin and a slow fooool that you don't know white people birth white people.

Sorry why didn't you address the fact that your lineage doesn't exist because you don't have pictures of them. Your grand parents(I guess you saw them and your parents have probably told you abt them if you didn't) fell from the sky eh? Daura President mtchww...

No quote me again abeg you can dull a newly sharpened chain saw.

The Daura President is alive and heading your country you dimwit. I remember when your pastors gathered themselves praying to your dead Jesus to help GEJ win the elections but Allah prevailed over your dead Jesus. You are a fool. I have quoted me tell your imaginary God to come and arrest me you idiotic pig.

malvisguy212:
bible say the Gospel shall be preach and then the end will come. Those who never hered the gospel, they will be judge by there work , the book of revelation make this clear.

Hear which gospel? You think a muslim or a Hindu that hears the story of Jesus will make any sense out of it? They will have to be indoctrinated first. How many muslims have you converted?

madammamus:
Then prove that he is a man made idea...how about that?

No God can be shown to exist on its own independent of human writings and stories and cultural acceptance and human . No God can be shown on its own independent of human influence. Humans must develop stories about all the God ideas they invent. Write it, spread it by telling other humans, create doctrines and enforce them, build places of worship for their Gods and on and on. No God can be shown to exist on it's own without human influence and input. Gods remain human ideas that is why there are different Gods and different religions .

mendez4Jesus:
'One day you will know who GOD is'...keep living in delusion. I pray you won't be late

One day you will know ALLAH. Keep living in your delusion. I pray it won't be late because Allah's hell await you for your unbelief.

Esdb3:
Well done keep em coming. After all you and your lineage evolved from apes.

I never mentioned anything about believing that I evolved from apes you myth believing pig. I do not believe in that. those that believe in it are actually better than you that believe you descended from a Jew that that was created from dust by some weirdo god idea that was living in darkness and sudenly realized he needed light and yelled let there be light. You believe in these childish stories, stick it up you stinking anussss

Science and logic is not mythical and man-made eh? I pity you...

Science and logic created the internet that you are using to expose your ignorance you down syndrome pig. Name one thing the ridiculous God idea you have been indoctrinated with did for humans. Go pity yourself you imbecilic maggot.

I don't. You chose your way, what do I care. Calvinism will work here for you so pray you are on the right side of it. Great people that were atheists of the higher white race have realised their errors so why should I care about a black monkey atheist who became an atheist due to poverty and impatience of waiting for answers to prayers you silly ignorant wimp of a bastard.

Actually it is christians that believe in God because of their sad lot in life, every day your pastors preach and tell you lies about how this imaginary entity will better your lives if only you give him money, your God is so incompetent and needy that he needs humans to give him money, yet fools like you still believe he is all powerful, he can't do anything for himself, he is so needy that he needs people to offer things unto him, animals, humans, money and what not. There is nothing like answered prayers to diseased hemorrhoid.Your God answers no prayers that is why you have to do everything others do to get what you want, even at that you still fail at it.

I guess Your great great great grand parents are mythical and doesn't exist because you don't have a picture of them like you have of scientists uh? FoooooooL!

You worship the image of a white man and still call others foolish, well done. Tell your White Jesus to go suck some cock.

Esdb3:
Christianity saved your ancestors from worshipping these gods and this is what it gets. Who said brahma and vishu doesn't exist?

Brahma and Vishnu created the world and created you, why aren't you worshiping and bowing down to them?

And you have not been indoctrinated? The funny thing about atheism is that as you claim christianity is an idea by the white men to enslave us, Atheism was also created by a white man! So you are still nothing you monkey from the african race. You are still at the end of the food chain.

All Gods and religions are man made ideas that is why there are many different religions and many different Gods. Men created all the Gods and the religious systems. Fact. Your own idea of God was created by the ancient Jews, Romans and Greeks, others have their own God ideas invented by the Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Africans etc.

Even people like the beatles and anton lavey and aleicster crowley who had every audacity to refuse God didn't and you, a nobody who wants to appear brillant and smart in a race of dull people(the entire black race) would dare to blaspheme your maker? Smh!

You God isn't my maker, FU[i]C[/i]K JESUS, FU[i]C[/i]K YOU and FU[i]C[/i]K JEHOVAH. There is nothing such a foolish and barbaric man mad idea can do to me because it is non existent. You getting angry because I reject your God tells the reality of it all, which is your God exist only in your brains and imaginations. Tell Yahweh to go suck your cock. You myth believing monkey.

Jesus! Is evidence enough biaaatch! And read the bible dumb shii! Paul, Peter are enough. Go read what the bible has to say about you and your other scoffers!

Jesus remains a dead fool, you myth believing toad. The bible is a lying mythical book and that remains the fact. Who the hell is peter and Paul? Tell those lying gay goats to go get pussy and stop fantasizing about them busting your stinking asshole you imbecilic wankerrr.

Reyginus:
Funny people. One cannot prove that God doesn't exist yet he says that God doesnt exist, the other cannot prove that God exist but he says that God exist. And none is willing to look at the other verse.

God remains a man made idea.

malvisguy212:
this is not the first time we are hearing this . The idea "God does not exist " come from your own logic.

You've been indoctrinated with one God idea over the other God ideas and somehow you feel you are better off. Well done.

malvisguy212:
am not the one to proved the existence of God, YOU , you need to take the first step to believe in Him, the bible say in Romans 10:14;
"14 How, then, can they call on the one
they have NOT BELIEVE IN?And how can
they believe in the one of whom they
have not heard? And how can they hear
without someone preaching to them?"

Faith come by hearing verse 17 and 18:

17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. 18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:
“Their voice has gone out into all the
earth, their to the ends of the world.”

Your God is an idea that only exist in your imaginations and on the pages of the bible and not in reality.

Truth be told, there may be atheists who are better human being than most so called christians, but can you name one ? Most atheists has no problem legalizing gay .

There are many christians that are gays so what are you talking about? There are many atheist that are better human beings than you and that is a fact.

malvisguy212:
there is nothing I can say to proved the existence of God that you will believe, the only option, repent and ask God to revealed himself to you. I assured you, He will come.

Therein lies the problem. Why should you be the one to prove the existence of an all powerful and all knowing God that can do all things and wants to be in a personal relationship with human beings whom he calls his children to me? Why can't such a God prove his existence to people himself? You have been trying to disprove the existence of Allah to his followers but you have failed at it completely because you haven't been able to convince just one of them. Why would any God that truly exist rely and depend on you(a complete failure) to spread his message and prove to others he exist, the only God that will do that is the one that exist only in your imaginations, which is truly where your God exist in reality.

Atheists are in satanic deception, a bad moral behavior. And their two main goals are:
1 absolute autonomy. being free to do as they please, and
2 the lack of ultimate accountability. there are no eternal consequences for doing as they please.

I know a lot of atheist that are better human beings than you morally speaking , so I really can not understand the thrash you are writing. You are not even ashamed of stating that you are good to others partyly because you are afriad of eternal punishment. You are toast anyway. You will rot in Allah's hell.

Saudi Arabia the modeled islamic country and the shining ligh of islam is there for all to see, it is nothing but an intolerant society that shows everything that is wrong with islam.

malvisguy212:
and you are not deluded EVEN though you cannot disprove the existence of God.

You claim God exist, you provide absolutely no evidence for this God and still tell me to disprove your claims? Pls provide evidence to show that the Hindu Gods Brahma and Vishnu do not exist.

I cannot take the risk you are taking. I go to church , pray , love my neighbors and worship God. For doing this you called me deluded ?

I call you deluded because you believe the God idea you have been indoctrinated with alone is the one that is real while the ones others have been indoctrinated with is false. That is why I call you deluded.

Thanks but no thank from were you learn this moral behavior!!!

Which moral behavior? I am only stating the fact.

malvisguy212:
No man can never find peace in religion, only with God. God invented Man and Man invented religion.
God created Man for the express purpose of mutual relationship with him, but gave Man the power of choice and free will. Man chose to break that
relationship and has been trying to find
his own way by inventing religions and
cults of all kinds in an effort to replace
that void left by lack of relationship with
his Creator.
But relationship with God cannot be
found through religion. In fact, religion is the biggest roadblock to seeking a
relationship with God. Religion is simply
Man trying to reach out to God by doing
something that he thinks will please God.
“If I can do enough, say enough, pray
enough, give enough, sacrifice enough
perhaps God will show me favor”. Every
religion is based upon this “WORKS
theology”. Neither ceremony, liturgy,
creeds, sacraments nor money have ever brought one soul into a reconciled
relationship to God.

Christianity is a relationship with God which you cannot get through religions.

You are deluded am sorry to say but it's true.

Someone is urging people to pray for them.Is your God not aware of their predicaments? Do you need to remind him? What they need to donof fight back insted of wasting their time waiting on an imaginary God that can't even help himself talk more of helping them.

UyiIredia:
The Bible doesn't mention generations of stars. Make your comparison.

That's my point exactly, the big bang despite it flaws explains so much about the universe compared to what the bible says about a God living in darkness who suddenly decided that there should be light and started creating things using words and magic without explaining how he created anything or what he used in creating anything. There is nothing to compare between the creation myth and what science says. You can bring your own comparisons.

UyiIredia:
Since you first suggested it, you start.

Lets compare the big bang and what it tells us about the universe to the creation myth written in the bible.

How does the bible explain the different generations of stars for example?

UyiIredia:
No, they aren't unless you are blinded to the facts by your bias. The scientific explanations aren't just fraught with assumptions and details, they run contrary to observed facts. If you still insist that such explanations are better than creation mysth despite their faults you aren't being reasonable.

I was the first to admit that the scientific explanations is full of suppositions and assumptions. Regardless of that, they are still more plausible than most creation myths I know. We can place them side by side and compare.

UyiIredia:
Actually some scientific explanations are as plausible as creation myths. Various hypotheses in abiogenesis are fraught with problems many scientists admit. Accounts of how organisms and their traits evolved are just-so stories and the predictions based on the Big Bang have failed and rely on several ad-hoc explanations such exponential expansion.

Which creation myths? The big bang explains far more about the evolution of the universe than a God saying to himself let there be light( So he was living in darkness for all that while till he decided he needed light). Or some God creating 7 heavens what only believers accept by faith. Abiogenesis despite being fraught with many problems explains more about how Amino acids came about than some God speaking things into existence. You can never compare the scientific explanation to all the various creation myths we have out there. The scientific explanations no matter how fraught with assumptions and lack of details is far better than all these creation myths.

Medicis:
is this your way of saying you cannot answer any of the questions above cos all are not science related. How and why do you exist and for what purpose If you suddenly don't believe evolution anymore show me just one evidence that God does not exist

I don't know why or how I exist. The purpose of existence is what you make of it. To you as a Christian the purpose of your existence depends solely on what you have been programed and indoctrinated to accept which means to worship the Christian version of God and do what they tell you. To the muslim submitting to the will of Allah and being his slave is his/her purpose of existence, to the Buddisht archiving nirvana is the purpose of life. To the Hindu the purpose of life is as described by the Hindu religion. To others hedonism is the purpose of life while others see the purpose of life as serving others. Purpose is what you make of it. Life has no universal purpose. I don't believe in evolution because it doesn't provide me with the answers I need and it contains a lot of suggestions and supposition. God is a man made Idea as such it has no evidence to show it exist apart from what men chose to present.

Medicis:
Bunch of confused set of people, are all the questions there related to science? Bet u guys don't even know how and why you are existing. So You rely on science sometimes and suddenly your science cannot explain where the Genetic code came from. All una eyes go soon clear

Use God alone and give us a detailed account of how the DNA came about. Use God alone and explain to us where we have Ebola in Africa and not in Germany.

menesheh:
Yea

Atheism believe in science because of their employment of mechanisms worthy of trust to some extent. Science deals with i don't know and seek for ways to solve unexplained things (the unknown) to the best of the capability but religion trives in i know but i can't explain what i know. I know therefore i know.

Atheism don't trive in absurdity.

If you tell the OP to give you a detailed explanation of how God created the DNA or why God allows the DNA of some organisms to mutate, he'll begin to speak in tongues.

menesheh:
Atheism did not rely on science. Some atheist don't believe in most scientific facts and propositions.

Learn to read brother.

menesheh:
Crap.


Atheism don't know and has no reasons to believe those postulations until you come up with explaination and prove of those ideas of yours.

After proving and demonstrating your propositions; we can evaluate and check the mechanisms of your prove to ascertain whether it worth believing or not.

Science have no business with atheism. Science do come up with their thesis, prove and demonstrates the mechanisms of their claims and then open door for any counter or disprove.


How dare push the burden of proof of your nonsensical postulations to atheists
I can't postulate something and then invite you to debunk or validate it.

Are you on drugs

He is asking us to explain how DNA or Amino acids came about. Do the writers of the bible or any religious book know anything about DNA or amino acids. Wasn't it through science that we discovered all these things?Science discovered them and only science can tell you about their origin not some mythical books written very long ago by people that do not even know about them.

Medicis:
you know what, you should have just answered the question that relates to atheism instead of all this your stories.

Atheism is lack of belief in God/Gods. Atheists basically rely on science and sociology for some of the answers to the questions you posed. But atheism itself has nothing to do with anything you asked. Atheism can not tell you how DNA orAmino acids rose.Only science can give you such explanation. Most times atheist accept some.of the scientific explanations because they are much more plausible than the religious explanations.

Scholar8200:
Alright. The present day Israelites and present day Islamic fundamentalists can be used as a sample for that which history does not reveal. The last people that will give a hoot on being called terrorists are the Israelites; their stance at present is not as a result of fear of being labelled terrorist;there is another reason.

Not true, they actually care a lot. Their leaders have stated it very clearly.

Scholar8200:
Moral principles to abide by which was read openly to the same people and they gave their word for implicit obedience?! Why? how do you see a commitment? Remember that the people in question were told the details of what they were about to consent to. Besides, how many times do we find the Israelites executing this? And, do they go about today like the terrorists do?

Same way the muslim terrorist are also committed to their own revelations from their God after been told the details of what they are to consent to. The number of times of execution is unknown. The law was given and written about according to the story we have but the number of times it was executed was not written down doesn't ,mean it wasn't executed many time. But if you are talking about the present day Israelis then my answer is they can't because they will be labelled as terrorist.

Scholar8200:
These quotes has nothing to do with outsiders/foreigners.
I commenced my first post by pointing out the need to abide by known rules in the community you choose to settle in. Besides, these people were not coerced, they personally made their commitment to be obedient after they heard the terms read to them:

Exodus 24:7
Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read in the hearing of the people. And they said, “All that the Lord has said we will do, and be obedient.”

Then this supports the case that Jonny made. The bible is no different from the Koran if you are justifying such as moral principles to abide by.

crusadistic:
you didn't answer the question both murder and blasphemy are sins to him,why can't you apply your same logic to that of murder so why doesn't Allah kill murderers himself?

Because Allah is imaginary, he can't kill anybody himself. That is why it is you guys that must do it for him. You fight for him, kill his enemies, kill people he dislikes and lose out in the process most of the time, you guys are not even winning the fight on his behalf even though we are told he is all powerful and can do all things. Whg=y isn't he fighting his enemies himself since muslims are failing at it?

johnydon22:
Men you really have time to start posting all those barbaric commands of Deuteronomy 13. . Didn't even take it that serious to oblige getting verses for it, quite tired from training

The way some of them just go about saying things as if some of us don't have access to the bible.

Scholar8200:
But in no where were the Israelites asked to kill those who do not practise their religion.If you think contrary, kindly give refs that state such expressedly.

"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

"Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death". (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

crusadistic:
you said why doesnt Allah(SWT) kill them himself,you should also ask why He doesn't kill murderers and the rest himself

Murderers kill other people, they cause harm to others, those that blaspheme insult Allah himself, they harm nobody. We are told he doesn't like people insulting him so he should kill those that insult him himself. Allah is an imaginary idea and entity so he can't kill anybody in reality. You might believe other wise but that remains your belief.

crusadistic:
so He should come down from heaven with a sword and kill them himself

Come down? Must he come down? When you pray to Allah to protect you from harm do you pray to him to come down and protect you? I thought Allah is all powerful and can do all things, why doesn't he just end their lives himself since their lives are in his hands as you guys believe? Why must muslims constantly be fighting and killing those that insult Allah? An action that we are told Allah the all powerful God doesn't like himself? Killing people on Allah's behalf shows that he is powerless, since he doesn't like people insulting him and yet there is nothing he can do about it.