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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 5:03pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


How can you start a debate by shutting out the point of your opponent?

Is God good?


Dalaman you have been flounderig in a shallow pool when all u had to do was stand up aka show us proof.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 5:00pm On Dec 17, 2016
So no Atheist is willing to bell the cat and offer us empirical data backing up their NO GOD claim?

Is it this bad? Has their claim been all an assumption with no foundation?

Proof shouldn't be this hard to provide na or am I missing something?
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:55pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


What have the theist provided in terms of evidence?

Red herring and goal post shifting by another 500 yards. Ebuka this guy must be diego costa in hiding.

The thread is not about theists. Let that sink in. Its about Atheists and proof of their claims.

Dalaman where is your proof

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:51pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


There is no evidence for God as advertised. If you have objective and incontrovertible evidence that points to the existence of your God directly then please provide it.


if you are saying there is no evidence of God AS ADVERTISED that means you are rejecting any proof theists have ever offered.

That then means you need to show us why and how you arrived at this rejection....So in essence you are back to where you and I started from.

Where is your proof.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:48pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


When have you ever provide any evidence for your claims?



Are you now devolving to memes? Is the lack of proof this strong that memes have to be deployed?

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:47pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

The kind I subscribe too?? No, the kind u believe in and worship ..
Do you agree that that's proof that the kind of God u believe in doesn't exist?


How would you know the kind I subscribe to when you are the one who said THE ONE THAT IS GOOD AND OMNISCIENT AND ALL POWERFUL does not exist.

So if that one does not exist which one does?
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:45pm On Dec 17, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Let me get this clear bro . Are you 1. Saying there is no God because of lack of evidence ? 2 .Or you are you rejecting the evidences we who acknowledge the existence of God have presented ?

If it is 1 then its a blatant appeal to ignorance fallacy , if its 2 then you have to provide reasons why you reject the evidences .


succinct!

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:42pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

Oh. . not ignoring anymore??... Anyways, it is proof that God- the one who is supposedly good and all powerful doesn't exist


So there is a God afterall but not the kind you subscribe to.

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:41pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


We (atheist). Are you an atheist? Show us the God that exist on its own without human input.

You simply have nothing to offer. Nothing to show. No proof.

I will ask you one last time as a favor to show me your proof.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:38pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:
The imperfect and terrible things about nature contradict the concept of an omnipotent and benevolent god... A good god would not create a worm that only feeds on humans'eyes

Is the worm your proof that there is no God? Are you saying there is a God but he is a bad one? Or are you saying there is absolutely NONE.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:37pm On Dec 17, 2016
LiberaDeus:

I am not godly. I am moral.
You my friend are just funny
intelligently funny rather. Thank you
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:36pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


We say all Gods are man made ideas and as such can not be shown to exist on their own without human input. If you know a God that can be shown to exist without human input point to it.


you keep sounding like a broken record when you say WE ALL KNOW AND MAN MADE IDEA. Am I not part of the ALL that should know? Yet I disagree with you.

So show me your proof to your claim.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:34pm On Dec 17, 2016
LiberaDeus:

You entertain me so much.
Your character is a priceless spectacle.
You are so ungodly
are you godly?
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:34pm On Dec 17, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You beat me to this comment bro . I wanted them to use Nature to disprove God . But they know they are going to fail woefully if they use Nature ,so they keep making irrational and circumlocutory comments .


Google is being overworked right now as they search for a rebuttal.

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:32pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


What part of nature told you that it was created by Yahweh? Where is his signature in nature so that any body that see it will know that he created it? Where is the God that exist without human input? When will you show it to us?


Since you do not believe nature can show you God then use it to show me your proof. I am offering you lifelines. Take one.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:31pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


Bro you are playing football with different balls. When told to provide evidence for the existence of God you can not jump from theism to pantheism and then to diesm. All these are not the same and do not even speak of the same idea of God. As a Christain when ask to provide evidence for God all you are to do is provide evidence for the christian God. Once you bring diesm ad pantheism into the mix then you are no longer talking about the Christian God but some other versions and ideas of God which are totally different from the Christian God.


He only showed you how others came to their God concept. Where is yours?
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:30pm On Dec 17, 2016
akintom:


You will do well to stop quoting me. It's no use to the least sensible being, to engage you.

Till you provide me with your proof I will regard you as illogical and not an intellectual mind.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:27pm On Dec 17, 2016
Dalaman et al make an atheist out of me. I want to see your proof to your claims...

I also wish to critically look at the God concept so I can make an informed decision.

Help me please.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:25pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


Remember I said I want objective and incontrovertible points.

The Koran we are told has some fulfilled prophecies.


Dalaman where is your proof aka evidence empirically given that God does not exist.

Felixomor I have asked you to stop engaging him till his proof is given.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:24pm On Dec 17, 2016
The fact of this thread is this...Atheists believe in nature and they hold strongly to that which is why they want physical proof of Gods existence from theists.

Now we want them to use the same Nature to disprove God. I am sure that something so readily available as nature could easily be used to disprove God but all we have been seeing has been seriously disappointing to say the least.

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:18pm On Dec 17, 2016
LiberaDeus:
NL atheists,
In order not to let this christards get away with their lousy claim that you guys can't prove god doesn't exist, I advise you guys come and do justice to this threads.
Agnostics have been on the thread for too long

I hereby summon the aforementioned atheists

Plaetton
HopefulLandlord
Hahn
EyehateGod
Joycontramundum
Johnnydon22
Seun
Lepasharon

If it was a thread about disproving the Abrahamic god, I would gladly indulge and dismantle their puerile claims but this is your battle. Don't allow these Christians seem or sound smart as they are trying to, we all know they believe in the most ridiculous things.


You started well but ended imbecilicly.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:16pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


Who told you that a God exist? Humans did. Did any God appear to you personally and told you that he exists?


ironically he has shown me repeatedly and spoken repeatedly and it matched scripture.

Where is your proof to your claim? You repeat he does not exist but have nothing to show for that claim besides saying you were once a Christian.

Where is your proof dalaman. The way you are dodging is making me think you are elastic in nature.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:08pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


Which proof have you ever provided? You use your words and opinion daily to tell us that sone God exist yet you are still here blabbing. You think if a God truly exist as advertised it will depend.on someone like you to tell others about it? You are truly deluded.

Goal post shifted again by 300 yards. If you have none to offer simply back out honorably
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:07pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


God is a hypothesis. If it's real then show me the God that exist on its own without human input. You should do that already instead of crying all over the place.

So you agree your there is no God position is based n an assumption. So why speak with certainty? Are you conflicted? Their opinion is the hypothesis and not the reality of God. I think you need to read that your post again. The gave a hypothesis and not they saw God as a hypothesis...in a nutshell they formed an opinion based on an assumption. I have broken it down for you
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:05pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


The Koran is his word according to some religions. Others say it's the vedas for example.

Mohammed is the most influential man in history according to many analysis.

http://www.biographyonline.net/people/100-most-influential.html

www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/thetop100.html?id=61

He said his revelation was divine and has over 1.8 billion followers and counting world wide. How do we objectively know that his revelations are not true and those of the people that wrote about Jesus long after he died are telling us the truth? How can we objectively know this?

Dalaman this thread is anot about an argument. Its about proof. Show it or say you have none.

cc felixomor stop responding to him till he shws us his empirical data which nobody opined into his mind.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:03pm On Dec 17, 2016
akintom:

Sorry, the rebuttal is meant for the OP.

The rebuttal the OP seeks is Proof from you. Do you have any?
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:02pm On Dec 17, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:
You've managed to not make sense again.

Please desist from mentioning me. My lack of response to you should speak to you.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 4:00pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


The there was NO GOD claim was only made when the proponents of the there is a God came up with their hypothesis. People didn't start going around claiming that there was no God until the roponents of the God hypothesis started spewing their ideas.

Show me the God that exist on his own without human input. You have been crying since. Am tired of your cries just show me.

You have been dodging like its going out of fashion and have now pushed it as a hypothesis to me and that further shows how confused you are.
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:57pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


The there was NO GOD claim was only made when the proponents of the there is a God came up with their hypothesis. People didn't start going around claiming that there was no God until the roponents of the God hypothesis started spewing their ideas.

Show me the God that exist on his own without human input. You have been crying since. Am tired of your cries just show me.


Do you know what a Hypothesis is?

A hypothesis is a supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presumption, presupposition

If a hypothesis is an assumption then how did you arrive at your CONCLUSION?
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:47pm On Dec 17, 2016
Dalaman if you are waiting for me to help you shape your mind and your opinion does that not show how much illogicality flows in you? Am i the one who told you to have your bath and eat food today? Am i the one who told you when to go to bed last night? Can you not show me how your "logical" mind works by showing me tangible irrefutable empirical proof to your THERE IS NO GOD position?

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Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:45pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

How many times would u be told... U don't prove negative, u disprove positive and for you to disprove something, there must have been an initial attempt at proving that positive

I have a reason why i have chosen to ignore your comments. Keep it that way
Religion / Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 3:42pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


When you rovide objective and incontrovertible evidence that your God exist then we will take up your challange. Remember we disbelieve in the existence of God's based on lack of evidence. If you have objective and incontrovertible evidence to show that your God exist provide it already.

Cop out! In other words you have no personal reason why you assert that God does not exist and depend on anothers opinion in order to form yours? Is that how a logical mind works? If it is then you are simply illogical.

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