dalaman:


A bacterium is in no way , shape and form interested in the knowledge of the existence of a human being. Humans want to know that Gods exist and Gods as we are told want humans to exist. You are comparing apples to stones here.

dalaman:


I don't need to do that. All I need I'd to follow the pattern and I have provide it. Show.me a God that people believe in that can be shown to exist in its own independent of man's input. Does your God exist? Show me that it exist on its own without man made stories,theology, doctrines and societal acceptance. If your God exist show that it exist independently without man's input.

Deicide:
How Many times Would i Say this? Atheism is Not "There Is No God"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngw25LhsLfY

PDBonline:

dalaman, you are making those claims again. In logic it's called begging the question: providing what is essentially the conclusion as the premise. You also used hasty generalization You essentially provided more of what is called logical fallacy.
To conclude that Gods are man made idea, you must have interacted with every man that ever claimed to believe in God in the history of humanity and must have proven that all of them had the same story to tell.

dalaman:


Historically speaking 4000 years ago the people in Egypt believe in Ra as their supreme God. Their halographs are there for all to see. The Egyptian book of the dead I still there. I don't need to be there to know. God are man made ideas that is why there are different Gods. All created by men. If the white men had not conquered your land and forced your ancestors to worship their own God you would have been somewhere worshipping the verson of God/ Gods of your acestors imagined and created.

dalaman:


I was once a christian and I truly searched for the Christian God only to realize that like all other Gods he's just a man made idea.



I was once a christian am when I speak of God in speak about the Christian idea and conception.



I am.listening. Jut provide your objective and incontrovertible evidence that your God exist.

dalaman:


I was once a christian and I truly searched for the Christian God only to realize that like all other Gods he's just a man made idea.



I was once a christian am when I speak of God in speak about the Christian idea and conception.



I am.listening. Jut provide your objective and incontrovertible evidence that your God exist.

dalaman:


Personally I came to the conclusion that no God exist base Gods are man made ideas and conception. No God can be shown to exist on its on independent of man's input and societal acceptance. Men sat down and invented what ever concept of God they imagined based on various reasons. Gods do not exist in reality. Belief in the idea of God is what is real. Men had to write what ever story that comes to their minds about what ever concept of God they imagined. Men had to created the theology and doctrines that will cement and make the God idea they created acceptable to others. Men have to speared the word about what ever concept of God they imagined and explain it to others. Men have to build all the religious temples and convert others to their religion and make them follow what ever God concept they created. Men have to fight for their various Gods. Enforce what ever system of morality they have come to associate with what ever form of God they created.

This is simple, 4000 years Ra was the very powerful God of ancient Egypt. Now nobody believes in that God idea any more and that God is dead, same applies to Zues and the other Greek Gods. Most of the Mayan and South and North American Gods are no more because no one believes in them. Same with most of our traditional African Gods. We don't even know the names of the Gods our ancestors worshiped like 2000 years ago.

4000 years ago the God Allah as we know it today wasn't in existence until Mohammed introduced the God concept and went about conquerin people and making sure they accept that God. 3000 years ago there was no God called Jesus that was worshiped by anybody until the Romans came conquered most parts of the world and introduced that God concept to their subjects.

Once people stop believing in a God that idea dies off.

ScepticalPyrrho:
I'm not one of such atheist.

As I said I'm not one.

But I'm also compelled to make such assertions, because there are numerous Gods of numerous religions.
If there is a God which implies perfection, omniscience, omnipotent then the world would be a better place.

It is a conclusion from deduction and it is the opinion of the claimant.

But for the sake of arguments, I don't make such assertions not because it isn't most likely, but because of your likes who misunderstand the position is to be replied by providing proofs.

AnonyNymous:

That is correct- and that is what you see them doing on here. Providing reasons why they thing the bible is illogical, therefore their rejection of Christianity. However, I am yet to see an atheist on here explicitly state "THERE IS NO GOD". If anyone does so, the burden of proof is on him.


Yes. Proof is subjective. Its also heavily influenced by personal experiences. Thats why we have different religions. Normally, proof (in science) should be objective- that can be there for anyone to see irregardless of their religion, and that's what atheists are asking for. But the problem is, religion is an art, not a science, and therefore there are many perspectives through which events can be seen. Religion is like philosophy, and your opinion/religion depends on your own personal experiences. Which is why I find arguing with the religious futile. They're grasping on to the elephant's tail, while I'm touching the elephant's body. The atheist, on the other hand, is touching one of the tusks, and asking for a picture as proof from both of us- forgetting that we are all blind.

ScepticalPyrrho:
@PDBonline.

Read below to see who is shifting the burden of proof.

@KingEbukasBlog why don't you tell dis man that we've gone past this a long time ago.

The meaning of Atheists are not the claimant.

The lack believe because of lack of proofs!

Why are doing this all over again. It's exhausting.

KingEbukasBlog:


Damn it bro ! You are good ! I thought of the same thing too . It sounded like NinjaX . He has made that comment with his NinjaX account .

They are too easily predictable

Hanaway:


Ummm... Is that your logic? So, is it wrong for someone who has not made use of mobile phones before to say, "I bought a new phone today?"

AnonyNymous:
PDBonline :
As an agnostic Deist, I reject the claims of most theists. I then make a 'counter claim' that I don't know the nature of God, who or what he is, but that I believe that God is fully noninterventionist- which I also state not to be explicitly sure of.

Atheists reject all existing claims of God's existence without making the counter claim 'god does not exist'. If atheists were to make the counter claim 'god does not exist', then they'd be classified as 'gnostic atheists' and then you could request for proof of their assertion. But, almost all atheists you encounter, including the ones on Nairaland have done no such thing, and are 'agnostic atheists'. They have made no assertions of their own, rather, they reject all existing assertions which claim that there is a god, and provide their own description of the nature of such god. They reject it because they claim insufficient proof. Meaning that, if a new assertion is made today, and they find the proof sufficient, then they'll believe in God. I hope you now understand.

KingEbukasBlog:


How is your new account doing ? Felixomor , come and see oo

KingEbukasBlog:


Yahweh sure gives the atheist a heck of a headache . Na wa oo



He does not know , He does not know but when it came to Yahweh he certainly knew .

So many reasons why I don't take them seriously .

Anas09:

Yea, thats why he is Squealer. Squealing lies every where getting protection from Napoleon.
They are everywhere. Skipping words, never direct only to trap the gullible like Boxer. He believed Napoleon did well for the Animals and Squealer, well...

LiberaDeus:


That is your responsibility. You are the Yahweh worshipper. If I claim my father is a minister of the federal republic, I shouldn't be telling you to prove to me that am not a ministers son. It would be met responsibility to show you.

I should direct the question to you follower of Yahweh. There is a god that created the universe, I don't know him but you claim to know him and know that his name is Yahweh, care to show any proof.

Hanaway:
Early this morning, I prayed to God to cause me to sprout a new pair of wings so that I can fly to anywhere I want whenever I want. But nothing seems to have happened. I have waited for so long and I'm tired of not getting results.

Lord... Oh my lord. Why is this happening to me?
Why are my prayers not working? Could there be something I'm not getting right?

Anas09:

Oh i do, totally. Who do i liken him to now, Mr Squealer?
because oga at the top has to be Mr Napoleon.

LiberaDeus:


I don't know how god is or should behave. It's you who claim that you know his character and you know he is loving and all powerful and omniscient. When we see things in the universe that contradict that nature we call it out.

If I claim to be 6feet 5 inches tall and one day you see me and see that I am as short as Kevin Hart, won't it be stupid for me to ask you how you know what I must look like considering the fact that I made the claim first.

Maybe I am not in a position to answer the question since I am an agnostic and I don't believe we can know if gods exist or not, the only thing I am curious about is how you know there is a god then suddenly jump a million miles into a conclusion that God is Yahweh the father of Jesus Christ.

Kendzyma:
Nigeria itself is enough evidence that he doesn't exist,of course u had claim ur own proof of his existence is because u are alive.....
Think about it,why does he require human effort to prove his existence?...

Fiyinfoluwa20:
So, my fiançe and I have had something special close to a year now. She perfectly fits my idea of an ideal wife and mother. I deeply care about her and she does too- through her actions and words until yesterday.

Yesterday she buzzed me up and said we needed to talk, and she goes " I am not sensing that spiritual connection with you, your relationship with God is vague, even though I understand it's a personal relationship but the person I want to spend the rest of my life with should have similar worldviews with me and we should be able to connect on that level"

A little background, I am a not so religious "christian" I pray once in a while rarely attends church services, she on the other hand, is quite religious calls the church her second circle-she said I don't have that kind of circle yesterday- trying to understand why such is circle is now that important.

She posed questions about kids christening and upbringing, I was quick to tell her that, a married me would be willing to make compromise for peace to reign in my home, and if I need to sacrifice letting my children practice my wife's version of Christianity I do not mind-as I am a non-practising Celestial Church member because i rarely go to church, as I place little weight on organized religions even though my believe in God is unshaken.

Again, she said she couldn't attend celestial church-not like I attend like that too- I said I ain't forcing her to as I am a liberal.

Another concern she raised was the fact that I don't have a problem with other religions of the world that I am quick to say I am willing to accept people regardless of their religion, she claims she's receptive of people irrespective of their religious orientation when it comes to friends and acquaintances but she has a problem with the man she plans to spend the rest of her life with been to quick to accept other religions and came up with the supposition that " if tomorrow she starts worshiping Sango I won't object " I said I would ask to know her reasons if they are valid I would care less, she said it doesn't sound right to her.

Finally, I asked her what she would like me to do, go to her church? start going to church on a norms? She said that was my own call to make and she cannot make such requests from me. Coming from someone whose doting Dad was a Muslim and Mum Christian.

P.S I encourage her to go to church, asks how her service went, I don't care if she picks Jesus over me, I understand what a lifetime of religious indoctrination and Fellowship can do to a child, a Nigerian child in particular, What I would not agree with is her telling me how to think and wanting me to have a reservation about peoples' religious disposition.


Lastly, how can these ideological differences be remedied such that they don't lead to the eventual demise of our relationship, I really love her.

KingEbukasBlog:


Anyone who denies the existence of Christ is committing the fallacy of exclusion .

akintom:

Can you please provide one "supernatural" experience of yours, that defied scientific explanations? . Pls make it short.

If rehab centers can achieve what you claimed a god did, don't you think that it wasn't God in the first place?
Or ascribing such transformation to god is fraudulent?

You're conflicting your points of arguments.
If you came forth to claim that you know the reason or cause of certain events, and you provided premises on which you based your claims.

On scientific investigation of these claims, based on your premises of proposition and other scientific principles, your claims were found to be untrue and inexistent.

How do you relate with that?

You're guilty of what you're alleging here.

Using a microscopic number of atheists style of arguments or their basic understanding of atheism, to conclude on the comprehensive propositions of atheism, is nothing but cheer mental laziness.

You folks claimed god exist. And base on the premises of your proposition, it's been found to be inexistent.

The burden of disproving the prove, of your falsehoods is squarely on you folk.

Until you're able to disprove, the prove of your falsehoods, the proves of atheists remain valid.

KingEbukasBlog:


Nihilism avers that God does not exist or He is dead . Nihilism says that life has no meaning or purpose since there is no creator . The word nihilism comes from the Latin word nihil, which means "nothing" and it shares the same root with "annihilate" , which is "to destroy completely".

Anger , hatred can can induce the urge to destroy and the bible exhorts us to love and be peaceful . The devil in the bible has been associated with destruction .

All these things in Nihilism are incongruous with the teachings of Christ . So how can you subscribe to Nihilism as a Christian ? Show me how intelligent you are and prove to me why 'Christian Nihilism' makes any modicum of sense to any one cognizant of both teachings .

MrMontella:

Sire,,I did not cherrypick...

I bolded where the article said that he held the belief of an early form of nihilism..

And on the levelling,,he posited and advocated for it

MrMontella:

Sire,,I did not cherrypick...

I bolded where the article said that he held the belief of an early form of nihilism..

And on the levelling,,he posited and advocated for it

MrMontella:

i dont think the belief in God entails purpose of life..

Not all Gods demand worship..
or have anything to do with us
E.g The deistic God(s)

so what do you say then?