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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:06pm On Dec 16, 2016
DeepSight:


The cowardly bann is over. The chap has light skin. Na im get im forum to do as he pleases. In fact e fit ban me again for this statement alone. Im sha know say i no send am.

grin grin

All of us no send am
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:05pm On Dec 16, 2016
MrMontella:

yes..in a way!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bentley_Hart
He's a known christian author
in his webpage he released his views:
some form of ''christian nihilism''

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2003/10/christ-and-nothing




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

from wiki's page on nihilism,


You did not finish the article. Let me help you. Cherrypicking is a bad thing.

Note however that Kierkegaard's meaning of "nihilism" differs from the modern definition in the sense that, for Kierkegaard, levelling led to a life lacking meaning, purpose or value,[20] whereas the modern interpretation of nihilism posits that there was never any meaning, purpose or value to begin with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
lol
What does that matter

Exactly what you read
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:39pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
lol
Ebuka is obviously a diest
He's just laying low so as not to disappoint his christian pals cool
Ebuka you can join the cool kids cool

What is this one saying? If they are counting cool kids will you jump out? How much dey your pocket?

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:38pm On Dec 16, 2016
winner01:
yes boss cool

God bless you.
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:26pm On Dec 16, 2016
winner01:
cool
Jonbellion how far cool cool

Winner01 how you dey. You know who this is dont you?
Religion / Re: 'suicidal' Nickelodeon Star Kel Mitchell Finds 'peace' After Turning To Christ. by damogul: 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
I went through his twitter page . He looks like a uxorious man , that's a good thing . And has found happiness and a reason to live with Christ . That's the best thing .

While atheism which leads to nihilism gives you myriads of reasons why life is meaningless and humans should go extinct .

He is Luxurious and loving Jesus. This his quote got me.

If you are what you eat, then I am eating SPIRIT FOOD daily. I'm YOUNG FLY AND SAVED!

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Religion / 'suicidal' Nickelodeon Star Kel Mitchell Finds 'peace' After Turning To Christ. by damogul: 9:54pm On Dec 16, 2016


Here is a Testimony of How much Jesus can save and restore every aspect of our lives that has broken down and gotten messed up.

Former Nickelodeon teen star Kel Mitchell says his rekindled relationship with Christ has saved him from a life of suicidal depression and drug abuse after his time in the television spotlight came to a crashing halt.

Although Mitchell and "Saturday Night Live" star Kenan Thompson arrived on the Nickelodeon scene at the same time and co-starred in a few hit productions in the mid to late 1990s, such as "Kenan & Kel," "All That" and the movie "Good Burger," Mitchell's post-Nickelodeon career had struggled to gain traction or attention.

After the "Kenan & Kel" series came to a close in 2000, both Thompson and Mitchell tried out for SNL in 2003. Although Thompson was hired on as an SNL cast member, Mitchell's audition did not go well and he was not chosen to star in the NBC weekend sketch program.


As Thompson remained in the spotlight, many kids of the 90s began wondering what happened to Kel. Rumors of Mitchell's death eventually began to swirl.

In a testimony shared on his website, the 37-year-old Mitchell admits that, although he did not die, his life became mired in severe depression, sin and suicidal thoughts while dealing with his divorce and other issues.

"I have been through so many ups and downs in my life," Mitchell wrote. "Suicidal, divorce, drug and alcohol usage, deep in sin, dealing with the lost of [loved] ones to gang violence, debt, hurt, pain, vanity, lust, heartbreak, feeling LOST looking for answers. I have seen, felt and been in all types of sin and have been done wrong by others."


Mitchell told People Magazine in October that after his marriage to Tyisha Hampton ended in divorce in 2004, he felt like he had "hit a wall."

"I was like, 'Okay. I need to figure out what I need to do in my life,'" he explained.

Mitchell, who grew up on Chicago's South Side as a pastor's grandson, said that in an effort to ease his pain, he decided to return to the true source of comfort that he knew as a child.

"I was trying to figure it all out on my own. But what I needed to do was turn to Him," the actor said. "Once I found that clarity with Christ, I knew everything would work out."




[b]AFTER TURNING TO CHRIST HIS LIFE TURNED AROUND FOR THE BETTER


Mitchell eventually became the stage manager at a non-denominational Christian church in Los Angeles while he continued his acting career. In 2012, the actor remarried to his new wife, rapper Asia Lee.






Mitchell told People that he is now at "peace" with his life because of the relationships he has formed with God, his two children and his wife.

"Let go of your past, be a new creature in Christ!" Mitchell instructs readers of his testimony. "I did! I let him in and Life is GOOD now, my eyes have been opened. I have always known God but now I have a true understanding of who he is and why I am here, and why God has kept me safe, and sinful ways are no longer around me because I am surrounded with the love of Jesus, and I have allowed him to make the decisions in my life. I study the word, I worship his name with praying and song."


The actor has returned to Nickelodeon and now stars in the network's new series "Game Shakers," which airs on Saturday nights. Mitchell also tours as a standup comedian and motivational speaker.

"When sorrow [tries] to come knocking, I know I have my God that will destroy sorrow in its tracks," Mitchell wrote. "People always gossip about a new diet they found and lay out a plan so you can do it. Well, I want to gossip about the Word of God and tell you how it saved me, feels good and it works! If you are what you eat, then I am eating SPIRIT FOOD daily. I'm YOUNG FLY AND SAVED!"


The actor concludes his testimony post by asking readers who are ready give their lives to Christ to recite the "sinner's prayer." He then lists five things for readers to do to "follow up" on their commitments to Christ — get baptized, tell somebody about their new faith, spend time with God in prayer and in Scripture, spend time in fellowship with other followers of Christ and go to church.

"If you are ready to admit your need for a clean slate in life, the God of second chances is waiting to give it to you," Mitchell asserts.



Glory be to God!

You can follow him on twitter to be blessed even more


https://twitter.com/Iamkelmitchell[/b]



cc kingebukasblog, kingebukanaija, felixomor, Gombs, anas09, Pidgin, jonbellion, Ranchhoddas, winner01 etc

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:38pm On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


He believes evolution refutes God and that since there is no God (atheism) we have been ingrained by nature through evolution with the need to survive . So to him , survival is an illusion , because its going to end with death at the end of it all . So why bother ? Let's just die off and go extinct , life is meaningless and purposeless .

And you still want me to explain how atheism leads to nihilism grin The answer is right there staring at you . These are oblique suicidal thoughts if you ask me sir .

wink

How did this elude you bro ? cheesy


Its always elusive to them. FYI Grizlybear called them stupid for thinking that life had any meaning. I mean he called his fellow atheists stupid. He even sees his fellow atheists as irrational

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 6:26pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

Keep trying to find excuses for your for god... This is an excerpt from a news article...
"Prolonged dry spells in five of the nine provinces of Zambia sharply reduced yields and cereal production."
U see that? Prolonged dry spells. It's not even peculiar to Zambia. Other south African countries are in danger of this because of climate change...
And the hungry people are not the cause of government's incompetence they are the victims... If god wouldn't protect his people from these things, then why believe in him
And what about the people who actually vote for godly people but the people they voted don't win.... And how do u know godly people... Seems we don't have godly people in Nigeria then

You seem to always want to argue. I have beeen to Zambia oga. In fact i have been to more than 9 african countries as a geographer which i am and you still wish to argue while i tell you from live on the ground report.

You need to pay a visit to New Soweto market in Zambia and marvel at how food is being wasted because it is in excess. It is even listed on Tripadvisors.com which was where i saw it and decided to visit when there.

Zambia is a self imposed poverty. If you wish to keep arguing continue doing so using articles while i am telling you as an eye witness. A not so populated nation yet they have about 20 political parties..you need to imagine the level of "rob the poor to feed the rich" that is going on there but of course you only follow articles.
Religion / Re: Has Religion Made Or Marred Us. by damogul: 5:32pm On Dec 16, 2016
Alleinad:
Just revisited this post and my opinions haven't changed in all this time.

Are you still a loner and still mad at everyone?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 5:24pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

Wait.... So these causes u have listed absolve god of the responsibility to provide for them??
BTW ... Having a population of farmers doesn't make a country immune to famine... The drought of 2001-02 is a major reason why there is a serious food deficit..
And as I said earlier, these causes do not absolve god of responsibility... The fact still remains Zambians are starving to death while their god promised them provision

Oga famine is not in zambia so leave that. God has given responsibility to man to take charge of his affairs but he can intervene when we call upon him. In Zambia Party or Political affiliation is a huge problem.

People are responsible for their choices so would you blame God when instead of voting in godly men they do based on tribal lines or selfish interests?

If you have been to Zambia even once i would not need to say all i am saying to you. Its like what happens in Nigeria during elections where peanuts is disbursed to buy votes and those who are deliberately being kept poor are bought over with peanuts
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 5:21pm On Dec 16, 2016
Deepsight allow me to entertain you while you are in the can. Remember this Post? You really took the gloves off that time. It was bare knuckle assault.

In short, no reasonable or proper scientist can possibly believe in God. If they do, as a consequence of their scientific inquiries, then they are not proper scientists.

S/eun, please just go to school already. You are an embarrassment to thinking entrepreneurs.
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 5:10pm On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Anti clerical ideas from France eroded the influence of the church. Never said it was an atheist country at all. The church only had its influence reduced it was never an atheist country don't even try to spew that nonsense.

When it comes to pointers from theists you suddenly discard your ability to draw inferences but when you its about the Bible you are able to draw inferences easily. So you expect to see it in black and white where they mentioned ATHEISM?

Put my post side by side with Ebukas screengrab then make your inference
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 5:08pm On Dec 16, 2016
rejosom:


But it is not a lie na, even Ebuka agrees with me. Ebuka don't you?

I do not think ebuka has ever dissed catholics and neither have i. We may disagree based on practices but the core beliefs remain the same. Jesus is our foundation isnt it?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 5:06pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

Why not tell me the cause

Zambia does not have famine because much of the rural dwellers are farmers so in that regard they are good. There is food but Politics is their problem! Their poverty is deliberately being sustained so as to serve the rich. Its too complex to list out but its almost similar to Nigeria. Their problem is more of corruption related than Religion or Christianity..its mans disregard for man based on greed but the rural dwellers who are supposed to be poor are actually not poor because they are driving the economy mainly through farming and based on that the nation is doing well per their GDP which is why they are even 49 on the list. Zambia is beautiful.

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:56pm On Dec 16, 2016
Baron Deepsight i can see that thou art still bound in fetters. Any hope of freedom soon?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:48pm On Dec 16, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


undecided undecided undecided undecided

When facts are before them they do not see it but only see what they wish to see to support their argument

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


Uruguay was formerly an atheist nation according to who?

Uruguay's secularization began with the relatively minor role of the church in the colonial era, compared with other parts of the Spanish Empire. The small numbers of Uruguay's Indians and their fierce resistance to proselytism reduced the influence of the ecclesiastical authorities.[94]

After independence, anti-clerical ideas spread to Uruguay, particularly from France, further eroding the influence of the church.

Had to be specific with the post since you missed it earlier

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:41pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

It's majority caused by famine.... And whatever the cause, it's definitely not caused by the people who have to scavenge for food

Its not caused by famine. This is why i first asked if you have been to zambia before? Western Media would always paint a negaative image about Africa. Zambias poverty is not caused by famine.
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:39pm On Dec 16, 2016
dalaman:


What is this nonsense. There are more theist than athiests in Uruguay. The politics of Uruguay has nothing to do with his atheism because Uruguay is a secular country that has a higher percentage of theist compared to athiest. It's better to keep quiet than go about insinuating falsehood and lies. The man said he's an athiests and that's all to it.


Uruguay has no official religion; church and state are officially separated,[19] and religious freedom is guaranteed. A 2008 survey by the INE of Uruguay showed Catholicism as the main religion, with 45.7% of the population; 9.0% are non-Catholic Christians, 0.6% are Animists or Umbandists (an Afro-Brazilian religion), and 0.4% Jewish. 30.1% reported believing in a god, but not belonging to any religion, while 14% were Atheist or Agnostic.[91] Among the sizeable Armenian community in Montevideo, the dominant religion is Christianity, specifically Armenian Apostolic.[92]

Political observers consider Uruguay the most secular country in the Americas.[93] Uruguay's secularization began with the relatively minor role of the church in the colonial era, compared with other parts of the Spanish Empire. The small numbers of Uruguay's Indians and their fierce resistance to proselytism reduced the influence of the ecclesiastical authorities.[94]

After independence, anti-clerical ideas spread to Uruguay, particularly from France, further eroding the influence of the church.[95] In 1837, civil marriage was recognized and in 1861 the state took over the running of public cemeteries. In 1907, divorce was legalized and in 1909, all religious instruction was banned from state schools.[94] Under the influence of the innovative Colorado reformer José Batlle y Ordóñez (1903–1911), complete separation of church and state was introduced with the new constitution of 1917.[94]

Uruguay was formerly an atheist nation. Religion/Christianity broke through later.

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:34pm On Dec 16, 2016
Randomperson do you know that in the list of poorest countries in the world Zambia is 49 on that list (which is not a bad position). They are above these countries i will post below.

But do you know why they have poverty in their land? I am not talking about the conclussion of the matter i am talking about how they arrived at that point since all you see is ZAMBIA AND CHRISTIANS.


Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:28pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

No .. But I happen to read the news and as a person with a conscience, news that some people are starving to death is unforgettable for me

So you read the news. Do you per chance know how they arrived at this conclusion especially since you have never been to Gambia?

Is it their suffering you only saw but you never asked HOW? or HOW DID THEY GET TO THAT POINT
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:12pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson have you been to zambia before?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:11pm On Dec 16, 2016
rejosom:


Christianity is 'not' a religion.

He put Religion in brackets there for the sake of the discussion because the other side sees it as a religion
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 4:09pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

You don't learn and when I raise points to which you don't have a response, you disappear into thin air
U are focusing on the Christians who have money and ignoring the fact that Christianity is the most widely practiced religion in the world
U also ignore the fact that the poorest countries are Christian dominated, in fact Christians make up the bulk of the population starving to death. . in Zambia for example, which BTW is about 95% Christianity and has Christianity as it's official religion, human beings, Christians are competing with monkeys and baboons for nuts in order not to starve to death. .. These are people told by their god not to worry that he will provide for them.


Have you been to Zambia before?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:51pm On Dec 16, 2016
4kings:

Which kain wahala be this one.
Where did "argument from ignorance" come from

General observation

My comment was all encompassing nd not specific to you as my protege wink wink
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:50pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
bcus I'm not planning to get married yet na
I'm in my early twenties!

You are precisely 24. So probably not ready for marriage due to probably academic and economical concerns
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:48pm On Dec 16, 2016
randomperson:

Actually, in many countries, atheism is more common among people above 34 years....

Are you up to 25?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:48pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
nawa oo
Umm
Bcus I'm not a boy undecided

kids
Oh dear
Wow
That's a big step
I never think go that side

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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:45pm On Dec 16, 2016
jonbellion:
kids
Oh dear
Wow
That's a big step
I never think go that side

So why do you get upset when i call you BOY?
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:44pm On Dec 16, 2016
4kings:

He has kids self.
Na old wise man.

Good observation... Thats why i see nairaland as a distraction. You kids have so much to learn yet you argue randomly out of ignorance. But its allowed. Its part of the growth process

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