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Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:20pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Edenoscar: Show me where i cherrypicked |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:20pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman i am still waiting for you to give me a list of theists you have offered assistance here on Nairaland. Deicide aka NinjaX aka eyehategod aka fsms aka pastafarians you can also give me your own list |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:18pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
4kings: There is nothing logical about his position. His humanistic claim has destroyed all that. If he believes man has a right to give his life his own meaning and his own shape isnt the same mans logical position part of what gives his life meaning and shape? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:16pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Deicide: So why did you? is it because i call you a coward? A liar? Stupid? A deceiver? Are you none of those things? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:14pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: And how many homosexuals have you seen Christians put to death? Are you a homosexual? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:13pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
felixomor: Memes and typing before thinking 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:12pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Deicide: You called me a hypocrite because dalaman asked me to mention atheists i have offered help here on NL. You tagged me a hypocrite because you thought i have never done so. Well i have given you my answer. Now you as an atheist how many theists have you offered help here on NL. 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:10pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
felixomor: I have offered him monikers in response to his question. He should let me know the theists he has offered help to here on NL as an atheist |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:06pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
felixomor: Dalaman loves making hasty generalizations and refuses to see good being done. He has conditioned himself to block out the good being done by theists but to see only bad. Let him now ask me how many muslims i have offered help on Nairaland since i have given him a few atheists i could remember. |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:00pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: CeoMYN is an atheist whom i offered help. Mistergrace was an atheist i offered help Grizzlybear was an atheist i offered help etc As a humanist how many theists have you offered help here on NL? cc Deicide aka eyehategod aka fsms aka NinjaX aka pastafarians 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:48am On Dec 16, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: Well at least they have one up on you since they believe in God outside religion so see your irrationality is insanity. |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:45am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: No! Christianity is a personal experience with God based on 1 singular principle. When i speak, i speak as a Christian. Universally Christianity is objective as it originates from one principle which is Christ and Christ has shown us how to live. If you walk into a church to steal, and you get caught why did you even walk in to steal in the first place. Of course you would be forgiven by genuine christians but the fake ones would want to lynch you which is not what Christ prescribed when confronted with the woman caught in the act of adultery. He said he does not condemn her. You speak emotionally and make hasty generalizations on every turn. Remember the last time Reinhardt Bonnke was in Nigeria, He happened upon a man who was caught stealing at isolo and was about to be lynched by a mob. He was passing through in his entourage and the crowd made him stop. He rescued the man and took the man with him to germany and today that same man is preaching the gospel of Jesus. I suggest you stop making hasty generalizations. Those who follow the teachings of Christ are unseen by you because you choose to only see those who do not follow so you can use them to continue convincing yourself that you were right by being a humanist 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:37am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman:. Its not about practice its about Gods instruction. Does practice or a lack of fit erase an existing instruction to do so? Does breaking or not breaking the law erase the law? I for one practice it so use me as a yardstick. Another nonsense talk. You can not love your neighbour as you love yourself. You as an individual can not do that. Even here on NL you are always insulting a this people that are your neighbours and whom.you consider to be enemies. You call them names and insult them instead of.praying for them and showing them love. So you see the Christian love you talk about is a myth and can not be practiced by anybody. You yourself have failed in that regard. All your post and insults against the atheist who you consider to be your emenies have shown that even you can not love your enemies and pray for them. Yoi do not love thrle atheist on NL and you have never opened a.topic urging anybody to ptay for threm.You give them exactly as they give you. So sad really! Do you know how many atheists i have offered help right here on NL? Do you know how many of them have actually accepted that help? If i speak it does not mean i hate...If it were true should i be even having this convo with you even after you repeatedly ignorantly called me a liar on other threads? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:33am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman do you believe that mankind itself is a part of an uncreated, eternal nature? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:30am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman this below clearly shows you the objectivity in Christianity. Its not based on emotions it is impersonal and non-discriminatory. Bless those that curse you, Pray for them that despitefully use you. Bless...do not curse for sweet and bitter water cannot flow from the same source. |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:26am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: I did not lie about Objectivity in Religion. You chose to see it from a humanistic angle. I stand by my declaration. Your opinion does not change that. |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:24am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Bless those that curse you, Pray for them that despitefully use you. Bless...do not curse for sweet and bitter water cannot flow from the same source. Love your neighbour as yourself. If your enemy asks you for a cup of water, give him...etc All those are found in the Bible. So God is not interested in what your neighbour did or if they disrespected your religious beliefs, He has already commanded the above thereby fulfilling the 2 golden rules of loving God with everything in you and loving your neighbour AS YOURSELF. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:19am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Oga stop being mega dishonest. How does the meaning of life offered by a Muslim or a Christian change the fact that THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO GIVE MEANING AND SHAPE to their own lives which you being a self professed humanist ought to know. Its not about it being true or false its about WHAT MAKES THEM HAPPY AND WHAT GIVES MEANING AND SHAPE TO THEIR LIVES. A true humanist does not dabble into things of this nature as they respect the rights of others to giving meaning to their lives which was why i was surprised you said grizlybears meaning to his life was false. Are you sure you are a humanist or you just said that to dodge a bullet? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:10am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Since you are fixated on this idea that Religion offers subjective meaning to life even when i tell you its Objective. Since you believe its subjective which is in line with your humanistic worldview which GIVES ME A RIGHT TO GIVE MEANING OR SHAPE to my life why then do you stand against Religion or my beliefs which give meaning to my life? 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 11:03am On Dec 16, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: You just gave him an explanation beyond his understanding 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:52am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Deicide: Always typing before thinking |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:50am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Since you agree that humanism is a quagmire of confusion which is simply emotional and subjective and infers that man determines his happiness and his direction in life which could be in a zig zag manner as they deem fit or in a shoot and kill manner which they also deem fit then how is your morality rated? Personally? If personally, by what standards? If by the law then who rated the law in the first place if you say the human law giver then who rated the human law givers source of the law he gave? Religion offers an OBJECTIVE meaning to life and that is to please God and please your neighbours (others) but you are focused on only pleasing yourself as a humanist and by extension others if those paths cross but your position as someone who does not know how we got here yet you reject religious creationism even when that is an option to how we got here is a bit dishonest. This is probably why even on grizlybears thread you never offered to help him out of his wicked thinking but even you saw sense in what he wrote. True? 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:38am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, [b]which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives[/b] So why did you call grizlybears meaning to his life a FALSE ONE? if you have the right to give meaning and shape to YOUR OWN LIFE how then are you able to rate your rights and your wrongs and is a humanistic view not subjective? Can your meaning to life not be meaningless to another humanist? Can your idea of right not be wrong to another humanist? If a humanist decides to become a serial killer because that gives MEANING AND SHAPE to his life is he wrong? 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:23am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Hasty generalization! Please answer my question directly and stop being dodgy |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:19am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: So since you do not know, how then can you be sure of a purpose you do not know about? If you say life has individual meanings, how can you be sure of your own meaning to life IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU GOT HERE AND WHY? The above is the question i asked you which you are trying to answer with a question. Answer my question directly. You say you have your own meaning to life which is personal to you. WHY? You say you do not know how you got here on earth..which means you do not know why as without a WHY the HOW is useless. So how can you justify your personal meaning to life? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:14am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: You keep using religion to offer pointers. Stick to atheism ..this discussion is on atheism. So since you do not know how you got here which means you do not know WHY you got here why then do you paint a purpose you are not sure of? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:11am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman i am waiting for your reply and while at it link that to this In furtherance to this dalaman since life has individual meanings yet you say grizlybears individual meaning to his life is a false one can i also say your individual meaning to life is a false one? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:08am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: So since you do not know how then can you be sure of a purpose you do not know about? If you say life has individual meanings, how can you be sure of your own meaning to life IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU GOT HERE AND WHY? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:05am On Dec 16, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: They say theists are dumb, We shall see. In furtherance to this dalaman since life has individual meanings yet you say grizlybears individual meaning to his life is a false one can i also say your individual meaning to life is a false one? 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:03am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: So you believe in EVOLUTION or what? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 10:01am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman since you do not believe in RELIGIOUS creationism what creationism do you believe in? |
Religion / Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:59am On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Ok what creationism do you believe in? |
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