Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:40pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
jonbellion: so you are married Bro You try So you do not know that whenever i address you as BOY and i tell you to shut up i am doing so with authority? Well now you know!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:36pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: It past the message, sorry if I sounded rude. Thats a better language |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:32pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: I have replied you already. It ends now. You are barely 20 and you say "it ends now" like you have any responsibility yet. Your tongue and attitude is a mirror to your identity. You asked for the help i offered and i showed you in black and white and you say "it ends now" as if you are waving off a servant.
Pitiful really!
You turn atheist and suddenly become so flagrantly rude.
The mere fact you saw me mention "inlaws" should let you know we are not equals in any form so you should choose your language when responding |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:19pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: In the end it will be, give Jesus a try. Your assumption. My inlaws are actually politically influential in PH as a royal family from Bonny so if you had some issues with your environment they are good listening ears and you never know... anything could happen |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:18pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Deicide: LWKMD Why are you laughing? Do you think i lie so seamlessly like your Godfather Hardmirror? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:05pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: Yes I did. And you still feel i was offering Jesus without trying to find out first? Theism is not all about Jesus you know.We live, we assist, we connect people to productivity, we counsel outside Christ as well. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 3:00pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies. I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me. Did you read the part in red? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:56pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies. I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me. CeoMYN:
The real thing is that my environment, my town is insane. Not only socially. I don't really know how to put them, I just got contrasting views with people. They are still in the old ways. My head isn't clear right now. The main thing I stand for is doing the right thing but the orientation is bad in this part of the country. Let me just give you examples of those contrasting views. 1. Cultists were killing people freely in my town. Everyone was like the government should grant them amnesty, but I wanted the army to crush them so that those boys will stop carrying their shoulders high. 2. I believe in the military way of doing the right thing. Making sure it's done even by force but here they don't care if you are behaving bad until it affects them. 3. My town is filled with people who have been bought by the lies of the our stupid reps, but I wish they could gain sense.
All these I'm afraid to tell because I fear for my life. It's point and kill over here.
4. I'm wish we can work together and make our town a better place but everyone is selfish.
Atheism just made it worse, you know why? It's because of my parents they are strict and very religious of lately, my elder bro and sis too. They are going to change their views about me. damogul: 8:01pm On Nov 22 Ok so you are most likely in Rivers State. Like i said, what tangible help could be given to you via a faceless online forum? If indeed you are in Rivers State then its easy to help lift this burden off you. Buts its up to you though. I definitely wouldnt want to force myself or my helping hand on you.Do you know why i said if you were in Rivers state then its easy to help you? Its because my inlaws are there and same way i have linked some Nairalanders who are from PH to them is same way i wanted to link you to them. You thought i was all about Jesus |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:53pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: I wasn't lamenting about my life and family, I was just mad at myself for believing lies. I knew Jesus is what you would bring to the table and that is not help to me. CeoMYN:
I tried organising myself but the environment is not sane. damogul: 7:44pm On Nov 22 Listen kid it would be too easy to ask you to unburden your heart or to ask you to share what your views are that people do not share with you ....but that would not be the solution. Just listening to you without fixing the deeper problem would not make the surface problem go away. So i will not ask you to tell me what the real issues are here but would rather opt to make it a bit more personal....yeah thats how nice i can be.
Can we take this out of this place? I have an identity i never hide as i see no reason for that so do not pretend. I would understand if you refused to take this talk out of this place but hey what have you got to loose?
This thread has got 68 views already and of these 68 people who have viewed i seem to be the only one genuinely offering transparent friendship and help.
Wanna give it a shot? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:51pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: Which kind help you offer me? CeoMYN:
I just need to be in a sane environment, I dnt dread or detest you. I'm angry at myself, true am lonely. But atheism didn't cause that. damogul: 7:14pm On Nov 22
I deliberately put "dread" there as i knew that would get your attention and it did
Listen...We create our world and unmake them. You cannot have a sane environment without first wanting to be sane yourself. Its like taking a wild animal into an organized house and setting it free...You can imagine the chaos..However when you make a conscious effort to first train and condition the animal to the environment then it would help keep it sane.
You need to first organise yourself internally which was why i said what i said in my first comment. I am offering friendship. At least let me see if i can help bring some sanity into your environment. A listening ear, an idea sharer etc
Being angry at yourself is normal and you are not the first who has been but making a choice to do something about it is the crux of the matter.
Can we be friends? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:48pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
CeoMYN: Which kind help you offer me? On your thread where you were lamenting your life and family. Did you ask me for help before i extended one to you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:47pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
rejosom: It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.
Solo said "Everything is vanity" Balance solomons comment with LOVE NOT THE WORLD, NEITHER THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD FOR THOSE THAT LOVE THE WORLD DO NOT LOVE GOD.
Its still talking about greed and selfishness. THE WORLD means the content, the goods, the wealth for THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..
However we have been commanded to love men and humanity as those are the truly valuable ones which was why the bible says WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:44pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
rejosom: It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.
Solo said "Everything is vanity" I do not think you know what you are talking about. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:43pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: they keep twisting , turning .
I was peeved at that response because that President Jose was not even a communist , he was some atheist (arguably ) who became president after communism ended in his country . It was a blatant red herring so people would jump into false conclusions .
He started how many killings did President Jose order . When the guy was not even a communist leader 
That ******* guy is very deceptive and dishonest . We actually have a mutual understanding not to quote each other so permit me to delete his mention from this quote.
That is why i didnt bother to offer a rebuttal. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:41pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
rejosom: Methinks christians believe life is meaningless too.
Back then in church we used to sing .... this might be the last time that we shall meet again, we live today and tomorrow we die, what is is the meaning of life?
And then we have Ecc 1: 2/14 "Vanity upon vanity..."
"Be careful for nothing... "says Jesus. IOW you can be careless for everything, what does it matter? The bolded means "DO NOT WORRY OR DO NOT DESPAIR"
The song simply lets you know that you are in the world but not of the world so do not get too attached to it. Play your part by adding value to everything and everyone for the sake of your final destination.
Solomons comment about vanity upon vanity is a warning against greed and selfishness. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:35pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
jonbellion: lol The argument will just be an inverse from the athiests point of view Atheism vs theism When will it end End? Did it even start? We are simply having fun and using this as a distraction from the stress of the day. There has never been an argument and never will.
What you are insinuating is like a re-enactment of SPARTA. Going into battle with 300men against hundreds of thousands. But in this case its against Billions.
Go figure! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:25pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: You are wasting your time my friend because he will still repeat it on another thread. It's like pouring water into a basket. You seem not to get the whole gist.
If its Bad its Gods fault..if its good then it has nothing to do with God.
If its Communism then atheism is the animus but if one atheist is good then that atheist represents all atheists.
Do you get it now? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:23pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Another one is the Epicurian paradox . I mean the refutations are right there , it has been for ages . But you see them repeating the same thing. AGAIN and AGAIN 
If they are so smart like they claim , why haven't they given answers to these paradoxes themselves - another proof they just purport themselves as smart people .
Even people who developed those paradoxes attacking God are not smart 
Intelligence and atheism are mutually incompatible High Chief salute to you Nwokem |
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 2:07pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Still nobody! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 2:02pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I strongly believe these guys know the answers to the questions they raise but they keep hoping that people who don't have or know answers to those questions or statements will now get skeptical about their beliefs .
I mean its 2016 and someone had the impetus to bring that up as a logical argument While the rebuttal has been there for ages ? Its embarrassing honestly . I have heard that nonsense too many times i cannot even count. Its like they all go to the same school and get dropped on their head while there and rationality sucked out.
How can anyone be asking such questions yet claim intelligence. How can one be asking such questions yet claim to be rational and honest with himself and not even to others.
Nna men these guys deserve an award of some sort...something to encourage their rubbish. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 1:52pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Faith is having absolute trust in God .
There are many things you believe without seeing
1. You have plans for the future right ? But have you seen the future ? With your logic , people should not have plans because they have not seen the future .
"I'm sure you talk like you have seen the future . I'm going to do this by 2 , I'll do this by 3 , I'm coming to pick you by four . I'll marry angela at 28 and we will have two kids " . "Don't worry dear , when I get back from the office , I'll take you to dinner"
You are saying all these with certainty with no proof you are actually going to see the next minute . Because you can die for whatever reason the next minute .
There are so many people who have trusted God and prayed to him in truth and in spirit and He hath no failed them . I have heard so many testimonies of people acting it out before the miracle comes . And it so inspiring .
So many nowadays don't want to worship God in truth and in spirit and they actually expect something from Him and when it fails , they start acting all up and spewing nonsense . Some even claim to be pastors But now they are atheists . So much falsehood and lies .
Guy , if you have not experienced what others have experienced just keep quiet and stop pontificating .
Brian Tracy said that he failed so many times in business because he was dilatory in asking other people the secret of their success in business. And then he did and things turned around for him .
Ask people who have witnessed the power of God . "What did you do it" ? "What kind of life do you live "? How do you pray ? How do you fellowship with God ?What's your relationship with God like ?
Not all these soporific jeremiads against people's beliefs and faith in God . Because you did something and it did not work for you therefore everybody is lying and deceiving themselves . Mtcheew
Learn to ask questions , learn from people's experiences , ask for guidance , ask for help . There's damogul , there's winner01 , felixomor , richirich713 , scholar8200 , anas09 , image123 , OLAADEGBU , Muafrika2( I learnt so so much from her ) , MrPresident1 , sukkot - you can ask them questions that's how you grow in life .   Ebuka but why?? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 1:31pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
[quote author=KingEbukasBlog post=51982549][/quote]The migraine their irrationality gives one is brutal |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:51pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman is there none? If there is none whom you being an atheist has offered help to be they theists or atheists then you have no right to criticize my worldview and my beliefs because obviously it is much better than yours as it offers something to friends and non friends alike and is not discriminatory.
You cannot honestly see yourself as better than i am when you have not offered help to anyone here and can only say "nobody has asked you" when i never waited to be asked before i offered help even to those who did not share my beliefs.
You hold no moral ground in this regard.
Thank you. It was nice talking with you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:46pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Agreed. Don't make this as sone form of competition because both believers and unbelievers alike in any form.of God or religion all offer to help one another both within and outside the group. Goalpost shifted!
The question is about YOU!
How many theists have you offered help to on NL? In fact how many atheists have you offered to on NL?
If i a theist could offer help to several atheists on NL then surely you must have at least 1 atheist here on NL you have offered help to as a fellow atheist |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:43pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Some of the help could be so mundane . They might be asking for an address or looking for a location something that I will expect anybody to render such kind of help when asked. If it is something big I believe you would have stated it. So much Hypocrisy and deceit in one comment. You already know the kind of HELP you meant which was why you asked me for the names of those i have helped on NL who were atheists.
I am not compelled to give you specifics am i? All you asked for were names.
Ok how many theists have you offered directions or addresses to here on NL? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:39pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman look at this None have requested for help from you? Do you see where we differ? I actually did not wait for help to be requested from me before i offered help. Do you see the difference? The Bible said of Christ, " [b]How Jesus Christ of Nazareth went about doing good and healing those who were oppressed of the devil" True believers seek out opportunities to do good and do not wait to be asked. As long as you see the opportunity you cease it as that is what it means by doing good. Doing good is not by compulsion or request alone its out of a necessity which is seen |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:35pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Edenoscar: Lev 20:13 If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves.
Now its time to point out jesus death on the cross  Is that what Christianity means? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:33pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: Non has requested for any help from me. How can I help.people that have not requested for any help from me? lmao
None have requested for help from you? Do you see where we differ? I actually did not wait for help to be requested from me before i offered help. Do you see the difference? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:32pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: What type of help did you offer them? No atheist or theist has ever requested for any help from me. Pls I'll like to know the type of help you've rendered. Do you see your dishonesty? First you asked for the names of atheists i helped or offered help here on NL i obliged you. Now you want details of that help? Guy gerrarrahia men
Give me your list of theists you have offered help here on NL before we move on to details! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:26pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
dalaman: You speak of christianity is one monolithic group. It is not. There are different types and versions of Christianity. The Catholic church for example and christians and they disagree with the claim.of having a personal relationship with God. Some christians do not agree with some of the pacifist teachings of Jesus.
How many christians forgive people for stealing their things and offer them more? According to Jesus if a person takes your shirt you are to give him.your coat as well. Which christian does that. Any christian you steal from will like to have you apprehended by the authorities. If he can feal with you personally he will. Pastors are teling christians to take up arms against muslims.radicals and terrorists m didn't Jesus say that they are to run the other check when slapped? What about the teaching that a person has to.provoke you 77*7 times before you retaliate. How many christians adhere to that or even will consider adhering to that? How soon do atheist insult you here before you give it back to them? Your actions and activities here have failed you
Jungle justice in most parts of the civilized world is a crime. It has nothing to do with christianity because atheistic countries like Japan and South Korea all abhor and have criminalized jungle justice.
There are no christians that chose to follow the pacifist teaching of Jesus. I am.yet to see the Christian that will willingly give me his second phone after I steal his first. While i ignore this because i have already responded to this earlier from my perspective but you just wish to keep on argung. Can you now give me a list of theists you have offered help here on NL? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:23pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
Dalaman why did you run off when i asked for the list of theists you have offered help here on NL after i provided mine? I am waiting for your response please. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 12:21pm On Dec 16, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: The truth is in the Bible isn't it? Says that's what should be done. And does it matter if I am? Show me where it says so from the mouth of Christ or his teachings. Can you pls
Again i ask you, how many homosexuals have you seen being put to death by Christians? |