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Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 5:58pm On Aug 31, 2017
supersystemsng:
Someone you can share these ideas with and will expantiate them organize them and turn it into a book, for busy people, a story board writer can be helpful, they can collect your thoughts and write your book on your behalf.....bros you have rare wisdom...don't leave it to just Nairaland please
LOL.Ok cheesy

So how does this work or how do you go about it? grin
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 5:54pm On Aug 31, 2017
supersystemsng:
Men this is deep, ic an relate 100%, bros why are you on paid job..get a story board writer, writer a book...there's gold in these insights you're sharing..if you don't have time to write, we can hustle a story board writer, you communicate the idea, the writer writes, we sell ebook on Amazon and the hard copy everywhere, you can retire with these amazing mind of yours...this is the case 100%, can't be argued against...
which one is story board writer again?
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 5:39pm On Aug 31, 2017
supersystemsng:
This is real deep

Why do you think after 2 years of marriage they look depreciated,depressed and confused. It's because they have no single inclination or understanding of their bodies and sexuality how much more a man
they're brought up to think that marriage is all about prayers,fasting, cooking and cleaning and taking care of children. Any other thing pertaining to sex is totally alien to them

They forget that marriage is a process sex has to take place for children to come so after the sex and children come they now have to put up with the real rude shocker of what marriage is all about.

And because they just understood their sexuality too late in marriage, their husband no longer finds then sexually attractive. Infact sex with them becomes more of a duty rather than something that bonds couples and to be enjoyed

African mothers have really bastardized the minds of their daughters regarding sex and that's why you see side Chic's having the upper hand and are able to steal their man because while they were washing plates,running errands to the market,the side Chic's were reading, travelling, partying and foorkeen men,so they understand men's physiology well and know how to make them drool and come running to them and then you see the wives become bitter,angry and resentful, taking care of the children alone and paying all the bills while daddy is somewhere in side Chic's house,giving side Chic's durgie style or cow girl.something the wife of the house can't do because her body will be shaking or inflexible to do all that so of course the side Chic's will be spending all the Mans money

Ask ladies the real reason why baby mamaism pays than being a wife. You have the best of both worlds.you have your kids and still live the single life and exploring your sexuality without inhibitions
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 5:25pm On Aug 31, 2017
NoToPile:
What about those that our African mothers system worked for ? what of those that actually turned out good. There are some people that the "run away from boys and sex is a sin " statement worked for. I believe it worked for some people.

I accept that our mums can go to the extreme anyway

I would educate my daughter about sex and also tell her to keep it till she's married.
yeah it worked for them because their hymens were able to be monitored and policed around through fear ,threats,name calling till they married.

As soon as they married, their husbands have to deal with the aftermath of years of indoctrination, they have to exercise loads of patience to have sex with them and sex feels like fokeen a log of wood with them

Why do you think after 2 years of marriage they look depreciated,depressed and confused. It's because they have no single inclination or understanding of their bodies and sexuality how much more a man

The effect of African mother's training is that they have succeeded in keeping them chaste but they forget that the person they're keeping them chaste for is not a Enoch or castrated.the consequences of making them completely innocent to the point of stoopeedety is dire

They know nothing about post natal depression,what turns their own bodies on ,when they can conceive.its only church activities and academics. Every other area they're as senseless as a goat
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 5:17pm On Aug 31, 2017
DarkRebel69:
That explains the steep differential libido between male adults and female adults in the world today, and precisely what goads the popular misconception that men think more about sex than women do - an assertion that couldn't be more wrong.

It's an hypothesis of mine that both men and women used to be shameless, ultra-sexual animals, who frolicked beneath the sheets with whomever they wanted and whenever it tickled their bestial fancy. I theorize, too, that mileniums of "slut-shaming" have deadened the sensual carapace of the female folks, coercing them into a shell of sexual reticence, so that they're mandated to keep whatever sensual thoughts they might conceive of to themselves or risk being branded a slut.

It's a form of sexual natural selection, I think i.e. the more society "slut-shamed", the more females had to stifle their sexuality as way of calibrating their dance steps to the tune of the slut-shaming flute. But I find elation in the fact that the pattern is being deviated from, to some extent at least.
gbammmmmm.sooo on point. You've said it all
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 5:13pm On Aug 31, 2017
DarkRebel69:
Men who castigate single women who do not draw the reins on their sexuality and yet get into marriage with a virgin while expecting her to be as sexually dexterous as a Cherokee d'ass would be, are like HRs who want to employ a 22-year old with 35 years of working experience. Outrightly ridiculous. grin

Virginity? Pfft! It's only shallow and simple-minded individuals who would use something as triffling as the state of a woman's hymen as an index of her personality. Why do you think such metric only has firm rooting in African soil? Africans are leagues behind the rest of the world, so it shouldn't come as surprise that while countries in enlightened continents are making scientific in-roads and inventing cutting-edge technology, Nigerians are in a little corner of the world, squeaking like a family of rats and debating effusively over the tensile strength of a woman's hymen. Talk about grand misplacement of priorities.

Take for instance these two women:

I.) Woman A was born with a very low libido and maintaining her virginity until marriage would require little effort from her

II.) Woman B's libido on the other hand is on over-drive and it would require more effort and self-discipline on her part if she intends to keep her hymen in pristine form.

If Woman B, in two or three instances of blind lust, has sex with two different men, would we then say that makes woman A the better of the two?

I can't predict the future, but I can predict what my future self would want, and that is: a woman who can stimulate me mentally in many-sided ways, a woman who is of quiet and studious habits, who is beautiful and generous in those areas of the female anatomy that my lustful eyes have always found most appealing; a woman who can offer me adequate emotional buffer in those trying times when my wits and nerves fail me; a woman who is caring, loving, and who is a repository of worldly knowledge, and on whose wisdom I can rely on to serve as salutary and edifying influence on my kids.

Virginity does not make a woman have all those qualities I've listed out, and since I'm not one to rank exterior trivialities over inner qualities, I unapologetically say: "To hell with virginity".
exactly
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 4:08pm On Aug 31, 2017
DarkRebel69:
Sex is a biological activity, and when you begin to affix morality with it you're in essence attempting to superimpose a constraining cap on the course of nature. We might as well reason that "breathing" is a staple postulate for living but that "breathing too often" is an immoral avocation, since that's precisely the same ratiocination used to justify the demonisation of "promiscuous sex".

Another thing, who decides what is moral and what is immoral?

"Preserving her hymen for her husband"...? Don't you think you'd unwittingly be inculcating the notion in your daughters that their "hymen" is akin to a mere commodity, one that needs to be preserved up till the point of marriage, otherwise they risk venturing into marriage not as complete women but as "half-used chattel"?
exactly my point. That's why you see virgins bereft of character because you've made them assume Virginity is the only sustainable way to make your marriage work and then later the hypocritical men will come and be ranting about how Virginity is iverrated .the same people always judging women about being sexually loose will be the same person judging her she's inexperienced

If she marries as a virgin-shes green and naieve
If she no marry as a Virgin- she's loose

So in essence societal standards have failed.just set up your own standards and live by it.shikena
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 2:06pm On Aug 31, 2017
DarkRebel69:
Who's the woman in the picture, the one in green dress?
that's mide martins.a Yoruba actress
Family › Re: LADIES: 13 Things You Should Do To Keep Your Man by dangotesmummy: 1:59pm On Aug 31, 2017
undecided

Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 1:57pm On Aug 31, 2017
grin
DarkRebel69:
Now that you've laid it out in unambiguous terms your position is understood much better.

Family › Re: Zimbabwean Wife Caught Having Sex With Husband's Best Friend (pics) by dangotesmummy: 1:44pm On Aug 31, 2017
Wait o is that the woman foorkeen her husband's best friend? She looks s.u- 'issh.not physically attractive in any shape or form.see as she tied scarf on her head like all those religious extremist frustrated house wives that their husbands have abandoned 10years ago undecided

And na them go dey form pious and preachy. You go almost think say them no dey fook undecided

Na their type go dey preach if you wear high heels you'll go to hell,if you wear trousers you will go to hell,if you fok another Mans wife you will go to hell

Ashe won tie like oko gan bayi.won mo nkan to dalara grin

Like my favourite actress mide Martin's will say,obo olonje meji,oko nikan lomanje grin .tasting different flavors of phenese meanwhile carrying the ambience and outward appearance of all those deeper life house wives ? cheesy

Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 1:36pm On Aug 31, 2017
DarkRebel69:
I venture to say that religion is the root-cause of why so many African parents are obdurate prigs in re the issue of bequeathing sexual education to their female (and male) children.
When even a mention of the word "sex" in a typical Nigerian church stirs tension amongst the congregation, causing them to shift their buttocks on the pews in a fit of ''uncomfortability'' - as if to say the act of sex is not a natural phenomenon but some vile, alien, and physical manifestation of human degradation in the nth degree.

I think the problem that the OP talked about stems from the fact that we've afforded too much undue sacredness and reverence to something that's only a biological imperative, something that's arguably as mundane as the act of urination - no thanks again to religion and its attendant morass of arbitrary moral fiats.

Even you –dangotesmummy– are guilty in some way of the very misdemeanour you deplore, even though you do not realize it. In one of your spiels on this thread you used the phrase "serially promiscuous" - a phrase which bears the unmistaken undertone of derogation.
Tell me, if one were roundly intimated with the dangers of having multiple sexual partners and is also up-to-the-nose on the various prophylactic measures that significantly lessen the risks of contracting STDs, would it constitute a moral crime if such an individual – male or female – decides to be unsparing in the quantity of his/her sexual partners?

When you use the phrase "serially promiscuous" aka "olosho", you telegraph the idea that keeping multiple sexual partners is by itself a sin and morally unhealthy, and I don't see how that makes you any different from those prude African parents who sermonize to their daughters on the depravity of sex as a way of deterring their blithely naïve minds from indulging the act --- except of course that all their sermons prove in the long-run to be royally counter-productive.
try and understand my message.I'm not downplaying sex or anything of sort.by serially promiscuous I mean a boy of girl having casual sex with just anybody just because he or she is ho" rney at that moment and mind you there's nothing wrong about have sex albeit be responsible about it as opposed to engaging in casual reckless sex with multiple sex partners who you don't know their sexual history. Now this isn't for morality or religious sakes,its about putting your health on the line for fre minutes pleasure.

I'm an advocate of if a girl has a boyfriend or if a boy has a girlfriend she/he should face their partner only and not be engaging in promiscuity for the sake of your HEALTH I.e being vulnerable to STDs, HIV and sexual diseases that's my point

Do you understand?
Celebrities › Re: Why My Marriage With Ooni Of Ife Crashed – Queen Wuraola Speaks Out by dangotesmummy: 1:05pm On Aug 31, 2017
[quote author=babythug post=59997282][/quote]you're right sha.it's dangerous to judge a book by it's cover.people are good actors outside
Celebrities › Re: Why My Marriage With Ooni Of Ife Crashed – Queen Wuraola Speaks Out by dangotesmummy: 11:57am On Aug 31, 2017
babythug:
That he's a monarch doesn't absolve him of possible/potential domestic abuse! And his public appearance could be and will most likely be different from his persona at home/in private

After all one monarch in the south west who had issues with his wife even stooped to the level of using thugs on his estranged wife at the time. I think the lady ended up dead at the end of the day and the monarch was stripped of his throne

Just saying#

On the other hand though, I feel this separation is unprecedented and perhaps they should have used third party intervention to resolve the issues no matter what!

Both parties came together despite the public* back lash and from previous marriages they should have tried harder!

I salute* Zaynab's courage though, to walk away/ leave a marriage especially one so public takes a whole lot of guts. It'll be easier for the ooni to recover from the trauma!

Oduduwa must be completely shocked even in his grave!!!!

Na real wa!
I've never heard of monarchs divorcing their wives,rather they mentally, sexually and physically separate from their wives.

Moreover ooni looks calm,composed,enlightened, exposed and refined.he has a cool ambience around him and he's soft spoken so it looks unbelievable saying a monarch that is educated and well travelled will stoop low to be abusing his wife when he has the option of separation and remarriage/polygamy
Celebrities › Re: 8 Nollywood Actors Who Are Also TV Presenters by dangotesmummy: 11:51am On Aug 31, 2017
I gave my son the same counsel I'm giving you.he took it and made good use of it and now he's a billionaire today. You on the other hand,you're arguing blindly. Continue with the arguement
safiaaASSHOLE:
What should we do with this info?



How is this info going to help me be rich like your son, dangote ?.

Tell me pls angry
Celebrities › Re: Annie Idibia Shocked At A Lady's Outfit To The Club (Photo) by dangotesmummy: 11:49am On Aug 31, 2017
ShawttySoFyne:
2face needs to find this lady a job
she has a job.she's an actress already
Celebrities › Re: 8 Nollywood Actors Who Are Also TV Presenters by dangotesmummy: 11:41am On Aug 31, 2017
safiaaASSHOLE:
What should we do with this info?
learn, spread your tentacles by not relying on one source of income and use your senses.that's what you should do with the information
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 11:38am On Aug 31, 2017
Cococandy you have a daughter so come and put mouth for the matter
Ifyalways
Tearoses
Efemena
Kanwuliajara
Etc
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 11:36am On Aug 31, 2017
supersystemsng:
Oh my God...May God help us raise good children, you know when ladies fall in love, nobody cans top them....what a terrible story...I hope to raise Goldy females and will talk to them like my father talked with me daily until i reached 11 years old...still building my life around the stuffs my dad thought me.... grin
African parents need to change their orientation. Towards raising female children that are maturing.this world is too dangerous for you to be telling your daughter to stay away from boys instead of telling her how to be sexually safe and not be in a vulnerable position sexually and how it's normal for your hormones to be raging

Instead they'll be saying you need deliverance, you're suffering from spirit husband, yore already following boys and all of that crap
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 11:27am On Aug 31, 2017
supersystemsng:
What an orgasm.... grin


Fantastic viewpoint...
parents keep shouting, threatening and making their children feel abnormal because they tell them about how their bodies feel sexually.why won't people you don't envisage listen to them when you're not ready to listen to them.many parents are drama queens and drama kings any small thing they're yelling and shouting. Every little issue is blown out of proportion so you think the girl will not rather talk to a male lecturer who's ready to listen to her or her boyfriend Rather than her parents?

Like I said earlier I work in a university environment so I saw a girl who was pregnant by a boy who sells phones and phone chatger in school.throughout she refused to go on holiday. Once she hears or sights her parents are coming, she will run away. She was so scared of her parents. Eventually she gave birth in school.

It was after she gave birth that the mid wives were able to beg her and pet her that she shouldn't worry,she should give them her parents number that they won't shout at you or disgrace you.don't worry I'm here,we will defend you.that was when she was relaxed to give them her parents number.

So they called her mom and congratulated her that she's a grandmother now.the mother said she doesn't understand, grandmother as how? She said her daughter with the name abcd has given birth that she's in so and so hospital

As typical, the mother was coming spitting fire and venom,creating drama and shouting all over the place.she had to be educated that that's why your daughter cannot even trust you or confide in you because you're too lousy.you make everything chaotic.it was at that point she calmed down.for 9 months they were looking for the girl not knowing she was avoiding them

Now would the trust issues or pregnancy have arisen if she wasn't someone that emotionally and verbally abuses her daughter?
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 11:11am On Aug 31, 2017
kimbraa:
I love the fact that you stated what you'd tell your girl-child.

First and foremost, you should know that there're mothers who had no education, came from very poor background and all they had was garbage in, garbage out. There're the crude parents you described in your first paragraph. So I don't blame them for their shortcomings 'cause people give what they have and not what they don't have.

Secondly, we have the educated and refined parents who know what to tell a girl-child and what not to but at the end of the day some of these kids still fall astray.

Obviously you won't be telling a 10yrs old sex education 'cause she may not grasp the whole concept while as you're waiting for the right time to, she may already be doing it under your nose.

Lastly, sex education is one of the most difficult conversation to have with one's child. It takes a lot for parents to do so.
what's difficult about sex education? Look let me tell you something if you don't give your daughters sex education, the boys in the street and on campus including lecturers will give them sex education and while at it take advantage of their naievity.I work in a university environment, I know what I'm talking about. Wait first let one office clerk see her sitting alone on campus by the veranda department and she confides in that one and pours out her heart to him and watch how that office clerk starts making her feel loved,important and before you know it he's taking her to hotels to teach her the practicals of sex education

I don't know what's with women and thinking fear is an instrument that will last long instead of sex education forgetting that there are wolves lurking around and easily spot sexually naieve and ignorant girls

IF YOU DON'T GIVE YOUR DAUGHTERS SEX EDUCATION, PEOPLE YOU CANNOT EVEN STAND ONE ON ONE WITH WILL BE THE ONES GIVING YOUR DAUGHTERS SEX EDUCATION OR FOKEEN YOUR DAUGHTERS. THAT'S WHY WE HEAR OF SECONDARY SCHOOL GATEMAN FOKEEN JSS2 CHILDREN OR CORPERS LURING THEIR STUDENTS TO THEIR HOUSE TO Bleep THEM OR YOUR DRIVERS SLEEPING WITH YOUR DAUGHTERS UNDER YOUR NOSE.

THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL GIVE YOUR DAUGHTERS SEX EDUCATION AND IN THE COURSE OF IT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER.IF SHE'S LUCKY AND SHE DOESN'T GET PREGNANT SHE MAY BECOME SERIALLY PROMISCUOUS

LACK OF SEX EDUCATION IS WHY YOUR OWN DRIVER OR MESSENGER WILL BE FOKEEN YOUR DAUGHTER UNDER YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN HOUSE AND STILL TAKE HER FOR ABORTION AND USE THE SALARY YOU'RE PAYING HIM (YOUR OWN MONEY) TO CARRY HER FOR ABORTION.

Means teenagers will rather confide in every other person except their mom or dad because they know they'll be shouted on,threatened,yelled at without even listening and understanding her verbal and non verbal communication
Family › Re: 10 Secrets Of A Married Life by dangotesmummy: 10:50am On Aug 31, 2017
*Long hiss*
Mshewwwww
Celebrities › Re: Chika Ike Studies For Harvard (Photo) by dangotesmummy: 10:45am On Aug 31, 2017
agrovick:
Ko le sumi, ko le remi; ma fi jo pami. Vanilla grin
oga Ade koshilo and stop stalking me.is it by force? undecided

Carry your black ugly phenese away undecided
Celebrities › Re: Chika Ike Studies For Harvard (Photo) by dangotesmummy: 10:03am On Aug 31, 2017
agrovick:
Ayam your guardian angel tongue
who send you message.you go guard taya
Celebrities › Re: Chika Ike Studies For Harvard (Photo) by dangotesmummy: 9:57am On Aug 31, 2017
agrovick:
Deleted
huhhuhhuhhuh??
Celebrities › Re: Chika Ike Studies For Harvard (Photo) by dangotesmummy: 9:55am On Aug 31, 2017
Chika cheesy

Is this necessary? grin
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 9:25am On Aug 31, 2017
Africlegend:
U've really spoken well.
some of these promiscuous teenagers that we see everywhere these days are a product of African mothers over disciplinarian or harassments that when it becomes too much the girls go haywire as soon as they're informed about their sexuality.they don't even care or are ready to listen to whatever their mom says because they now understand that fear is the tactics of oppressing them
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 9:21am On Aug 31, 2017
supersystemsng:
Very true i accept... which is why every man is first of all seen as a beast...
they think using fear to control them and keep them in the dark about themselves and their sexuality will make them "chaste" unfortunately it makes them sexually rigid, ignorant, completely naieve,bothering on foolishness and makes sex unpleasaurable both for them and their husbands. They're almost similar to girls that were circumsized ad children. They need sexual reorientation and counselling otherwise sex will be war and a battle field.they'll make their husbands feel they're raping them and before you know it he Will be running into the arms of other women

African mothers are ruining the sexuality of their children instead of giving them sex education they're using fear and threats. All these takes its toll on their sexual relationships
Family › Re: How Do You Cope With An Unmarried Sibling. by dangotesmummy: 9:13am On Aug 31, 2017
Dcholeric:
I was always having problems with my dad while I was living with him.
don't come back home 10pm+...cause I would have lock my gate.
don't bring girls to my house for sex.
don't bring guys and drinks to my house.
go get a job and stop depending on me for everything.
these are few of why we always quarrel.

then he will say I can't risk my whole family by leaving my gate open because you want to stay late night.
I can't risk my other children because you want to bring bad boys and drinks to my house which will leave my household vulnerable to theft, bad example, cultism ....
you can't bring girls to have sex in my house.. you are not married to any one of them and whatever problem that comes out of it will come to my house first ..
he will conclude by saying if you want to live the way you want, please leave my house or if you break any of these rules again and constitute nuisance in my house I will call the police ...
and he did call the police a couple of times admist heated arguments.....I was tired of always being the one to quarrel in my house so I obeyed most rules as patiently as I could and I found out I was living peacefully, it also became my habit everywhere I go (having to be more patient and calm), and yes it helped in my relationship with opposite sex.

I finally got my own apartment and guess what!...I couldn't misbehave the way would've want to...thanks to my dad....and moreover there is too much responsibility living alone..one can't just keep toying around.

she has to obey rules under her fathers house (excluding marital issues) or get her apartment.... if she wants to continue a toying with men...posting pics 24/7 on fb, no problem. but if she wants to be remain in her fathers and constitute nuisance by constant quarrelling then that is highly irresponsible considering her position and age.
no I'm not supporting irresponsible behaviours.if there's something wrong with her behavior that should be addressed squarely without bringing the marriage matter up because that would naturally make her revolt and to your dad,he was right. If I were your dad I'll do the same because he's actually protecting his family from danger and protecting you from yourself. He had to apply tough love in your case and moreover if you want to live a life of debauchery you can't be doing that under your parents roof that's very disrespectful. So you mean if your father didn't complain about bringing girls to his house to have sex with them, you'll actually be having sex with them under your father's nose? Really?

So if any of your younger siblings walked in on you whilst having sex or drinking won't he say daddy you allowed him to do abcd and you don't want me to do that.these were the issues he was bothered about and it's legitimate. You cannot use his money to misbehave and expose his family to danger

Moreover while bringing your friends in what if anyone of them is lusting after your baby sister and he plans and comes a day when nobody is at home to rape her nko?

These are the factors likely to happen if your dad let you have your way
Fashion › Re: American Woman's Kids Wear Nigerian Outfits (Photos) by dangotesmummy: 9:02am On Aug 31, 2017
Looks beautiful on the kids
Family › Re: The Girl Child And Sex! Mistakes African Mothers Make. by dangotesmummy: 8:59am On Aug 31, 2017
This is the major reason why s.u girls suffer vaginismus in marriage. The mothers have put fear in the heart of their young daughters and they grow up with such fear even in marriage thinking that as soon as her husband gets get pregnant he'll abscond. Unfortunately this happens because they have nursed and grown their fear that it becomes reality

African moms just dont know when to stop.they let their panaroia get the better part of their daughters that it's either their daughters get averse to sex in and out of marriage, become sexually uninformed or dysfunctional
Family › Re: How Do You Cope With An Unmarried Sibling. by dangotesmummy: 8:48am On Aug 31, 2017
pocohantas:
OP, your post makes it look like the main problem with her is her single status. If her attitude is really bad, then you people should talk to her without bringing marriage in. That way she is sure you guys are not being sentimental about it, or tying her whole existence to a man...

She needs to be changed as an individual, before marriage talk.
gbam. Exactly

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