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nuorlah: Do u think you would still be alive if that is to be taken literally and is meant to be for every situation? I wouldn't have been a Muslim either.But thank God I am because I am guided. I pray you receive guidance as well.

Has any of the Muslims you must have met in all of the years of your existence tried to kill u? You simply can't be alive if that statement above is one of the pillars of Islam. The things that make you a good Muslim are five and do not include fighting.

Verses of the Qur'an were for times and conditions. The religious leaders were also the community leaders hence d need to fight 2 protect their sovereignity and that was even after they were previously attacked.

If you insist and keep to your thoughts. I have at least given you my 2 cents

abeg give us the real meaning of that verse

bola4dprec: In other words: Don't worry about the nonbelievers, Allah will deal with them in the afterlife. And as we have seen, the Qur'an is full of threats about the terrible fate awaiting nonbelievers there.
One very well-known verse used to prove tolerance in the Qur'an must be mentioned:
Let there be no compulsion in religion. (2:256)

how about the forcing of little kids to karatu and mallam flogging them to cram the quran Cramming language they can't undastand,they Just cram.

Saksreal: JIHAD is a Term often misunderstood and associated with radical militants. The arabic word is wrongly misinterpretated as "Holy War", although there is no such thing in islam. Holy war is something undertaken to forcibly subject others to certain religious doctrines, which is forbidden in Islam.

The arabic word "Jihad" means a struggle or striving and applies to any great effort on the personal and social level. It is striving to do good and remove injustice and evil from oneself and the society. This exertion of effort can be spiritual, economic, social or political. For example, one of the highest level of Jihad is to stand before a tyrant and speak a word of truth. Restraining oneself from wrongdoing is also a form of Jihad. It is a broad concept that includes opposing evil inclinations within oneself, opposing injustice through peaceful means, efforts to improve the quality of life in a society as well as the striving by military forces on a battlefield in defence of the community or oppressed people. Jihad is not synonymus with war and it certainly does not involve terrorism. Armed Jihad is not an option for muslim individuals or groups and can only be declared by the muslim head of state. Moreover it must never be fought for wordly gain, conquest or revenge. Muslims may only engage in battle to protect people's lives, properties and freedom.


Jihad has conditions of restraint that distinguishes it from any other kind of warfare. They can be summarised as follows.

** Muslims must not begin hostilities. They must strive for peace as much as possible.
** All treaties and agreements must be observed as long as the enemy observes them.
** Muslims must fight only those who fight against them; non-combatants are not to be harmed.
** Weapons of mass destruction must never be used and collective punishment is strictly prohibited.
** Self-defense is not considered jihad if muslims are striking back in revenge.
** Hostilities should be ended as soon as the other party is inclined to peace

back it up with quranic verses!

Brokoto. Go get english quran, Bible, hindu and buddhist book. Read them all and see for yourself, before U do that sincerely pray to God to show U the truth.GOODLUCK IN YOUR QUEST!

Brokoto. U wan go Heaven go see Jesus before you belief? Anyway u never ready. I pray make God reveal himself to you!

ijawkid: GOD does not conceal who he is........through out the OT GOD told his people thousands of times that he was GOD...........isaiah 9 does not in anyway show that it was the GOD of isaac and Jacob that was to come to the earth...........

JEHOVAH WITNESS

JEHOVAH WITNESS FULL HERE

plappville: But it was already in the prophecy that they will reject him. So telling them lies is even trying to make them accept him (according to you)? Did the prophets even said that it was God coming at the first place? This thing self tire me, it seems no one care about what was written down about the messiah. All Trinitarians do Is twist the new testament tomake Jesus Yahweh Himself. This is making the scripture contradicting itself. God cannot die, Jesus is God and died. GOd cannot be seen, Jesus is God and was seen. GOD can not be tempted, Jesus is God and was tempted. This make no sense and render the scripture false...

know your God. Are U a christian? U sound like Jehovah witness.

joe4christ: As i've always stated here, to have a clue about the Godhead you'll need to understand the nature of MAN
remember MAN was made in God's image according to the scripture, and i hope to believe we all believe MAN is made up of BODY, SOUL & SPIRIT.
Each of them are dependant on each other for survival, though the body seems to function more on earth as dictated by nature but nevertheless it does'nt make it less dependant on the soul & spirit.
They all co-exist and are very vital for the efficient livelyhood but once the body dies then shift of authority and responsibility goes to the spirit cos u will now forever exist in the spirit realm.
This describe how the Godhead likely function, three but one in function, unity.

i think God the Father is the Soul of Jesus.

ijawkid: So Jesus was afraid to tell the Jews he was the God of isaac and Jacob there fore-fathers??...........smh!!!!!...........

Jesus truthfully told them who he was.....the son of man,the son of the LIVING GOD and also the holy servant of GOD.....

it seems you don't wanna Read and agree with Isaiah 9:6. Jesus was never scared to tell them,HE only Use wisdom.

brokoto: what do you mean? Are you reffering to his reply that I addressed with that post or is there another reply you are talking about? Or do you really expect me to just believe as christemmbassey previously suggested?

i tell you, U are not ready for a relationship with Jesus.

plappville: If Jesus want us to know he was the God of the univers, He would have said it. It wasn't difficult for him to say he was the son of God. Because thats what he is. Anyone adding to this, ma him sabi. The way am seeing things. It looks like, when you reject the trinity , you becomes a SDA OR JWS. This is a wrong way to think. There secrets behind this doctrine. Na so i talk my own reach oo..this debate no go ever get ending.

Isaiah 9:6 nko? The people couldnt accept him as the son how much God? If he said he is God it could have spoiled the Faith walk cos the people were so into the Law and spiritually empty.

brokoto: 1 you said that the bibles story of creation is both factual logical and reasonable but you did not give the facts, you did not explain it logically beyond any reasonable doubt.

2 you said Christianity answers the most pertinent questions of mankind which is death and the origin of sin. I believe that all your explanations are hinged on a sound understanding of the bible. Now, you should know that other religions also have their holy book(s) and I think that these questions might have also been answered one way or the other in those books.
So now I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, that you'll base most of your explanations from the bible and I'll like you to start by explaining to me why the bible's own explanation is the correct one.

P.S I've not watched those video clips so I can't address them now.

after reading frosbel's anwser i suggest U go and study other religion and reach ur conclusion. Its all about choice.

If somebody can't understand John 3:16 how can he understand the Old testament

mmmustapha: 3rd 2 comment, gud move by NK. Show America dat u r as strong as them or even better, cnt wait 2 c america fall

typical islamist like U.

F00028: if this was adressed to me you haven't answered any of my queries what makes you think I'll answer yours?

and when you say "the christianity was spread by preaching and signs and wonders blah blah blah..."

are you that ignorant of the blood stained history of christianity or do you think I am?

talk of todays reality, answer the @OP

Geewan: “Such are they whose hearts and ears and eyes Allah hath sealed. And such are the heedless.” Al Qur'an 16:108.

so he chose to seal the heart and mind of somepeople,so how is he going going to judge them now? Huh! He created some to go to hell?

Ayomivic: Ok, did he suffered more than Job when on earth?


had he ever cripples when on earth? If your answer to this question is No, i am telling you that there were many cripples when Muhammed was on earth.

guy Isaiah 9:6 don settle Ur points!

babagy82: Mind your fvkcing tongue dude!!!!!

or u go bomb am?

aryzgreat: The boldened are part of why islam is hated and when we speak our mind about how terrorist use allah name from shouting "allahu akbar" when killing to quoting koran and sura to support their heinous crime, u muslims attack us. No muslim in this thread has admonished these bastards from using ur allah to perpetuate crime, when we talk u all will wake from sleep. Lacasa, maclatunji, Bethatin, Nagoma and musa2 come and defend this.

dem go defend am well,na bad guys o.sharp islamic lawyers.them always get defense!

BetaThings: Oh, why don't you leave Mali to them (Saudi and Iran) too?
Afterall the objective in Mali is to come to the aid of the oppressed

Some people are oppressed in Burma - no action by the "liberators"!
Some people are oppressed in Congo DR - no action by the "liberators"!

These aint no liberators!

let iran and saudi go to burma and congo too na...! What has iran and saudi done in this world sef?

vedaxcool: So now you implying that God rule during the Mosiac law with cruelty and retribution? Which in essence means he was mistaken all along? Please keep your confusion to yourself! Thank you!

explaining to you is a waste of time. You are a born muslim.i can bet ur father and grandparent are muslims.ur heart and mind is blocked...try think outsyd ur mentality!

vedaxcool: Are you implying God only exist during the christian era? Coz God does not make mistake.

@plapvile keep hailing your broda cheers01 aka logicboy, who has truly positive opinions about christianity and violence! . I am very satisfied that the bible promotes genocide like we witness in 1994 Rwanda (Christian Era) 900, 000 dead from the very hands of their fellow christian and guess what? unmighty France did nothing, nope no their problem, US did nothing nope not their problem in fact they actually frustrated a UN response, the entire christian community did nothing, nope no their problem atleast in Mali muslim dominated countries are deploying troops why because what is going on in Mali has nothing to do with religion, but the average nl christian is too brain wash to think beyond religion!

prechristianity was the period of the Mosaic Law...but now we are Under christianity Ruled by Love and Grace!

BetaThings: You too did not speak up for the Muslims being massacred in Burma (Myamar).
No country has intervened in that matter
So what is the media doing about that too? Or does it not exist?

what is iran and saudi waiting for

Stalwert: The bible supports genocide/ethnic cleasing:


“This is what the Lord Almighty says...
‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not
spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep,
camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15

that was pre-christian era!

D-sense:
OP.
I see nothing wrong there . . .At the same time you both need to think well.
I'm muslim and currently dating a christian and so far things are getting cool and will continue to be because we talked it off and agreed on manythings.

mine started cool but after two years she became serios with islam and started wearing long hijab and sucks,later she told me i have to convert,i said i can't and she left! Just becareful cos wen they decide to go very serios with their religion u'll suffer it!

Some of You should realise its Over cos U urself knw it cant work again...stop giving urself hope! Stop thinking about the sex u had with her and move on. The best is yet to come!

shymmex: Different idealistic theories everyday, but how practical are these theories?

Same NL but different crap everyday.

Some of you need to go out more for some fresh air, and see how things work in the real world.

bad belle

m_nwankwo: In my opinion, it is regretable to accuse others whose belief differ from yours as not following the truth. This is because your own perception of the truth is governed by your own experiencing whether physical or spiritual. No two individuals are identical in physical and spiritual experiences even when they read the same bible and attend the same church. That in part explains why every religion have several denomination and it will always remain that way. Perceptions of truth is not the same thing as Truth. Thus interpretation will aways differ. The catholic church may have a lot of practices you disgree with but that is not a justification for making very sweeping statement on their belief. It is alway easy to point out what one considers to be wrong in the belief of others. But remember that it remains your opinion, your understanding, your personal experiences. It is wise to study the faiths of those different from yours in order to understand them better but not to pronounce judgement.

there is no justification for doing unBiblical things!

IF YOU ARE DOING ANYTHING CHRIST AND HIS APOSTLES DID NOT TEACH THEN YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!!!

2good: your level if delusion is beyond imagination. Pentecostal movement originated from the Lutheran church created by a former Roman Catholic German monk called Martin Luther. Get a proper history education and stop reading your bible

are u a demon? Y would u ask some1 to stop reading his Bible?

plappville: I be sisi ooo...

Well, you are still speaking the truth. I trust there are still few that do practice Christ teachings.... We hope they continue and never give rooms to men traditions.

Some times, its hard to resist the OP, He always want to make points out of nothing.
I think arguing with Him is a wast of precious time. You are on point.

oooh...forgive me o! I no even check well i just begin reply.na becos our comments dey in Line so i just flow...! Sorry ma!