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 Business › Re: Understanding Networking Business by dankol(op): 12:44am On Mar 01, 2017 |
NETWORKING- NOT PERFECT BUT A BETTER BUSINESS MODEL Life is not about ‘making a living’; its about ‘quality of the life we live’. The earlier one wakes up to be in charge of his life. The earlier one realizes that the employee mindset is far from being normal, the better. Yunus Muhammad said “All people are entrepreneurs, but many do not have the opportunity to find out”. Why? We are brought up to solely rely on Education. But permit me to go down history lane, Long before the Victorian system of education, people were entrepreneurs. This is not an attempt to condemn the concept of employment or education. Absolute No! But on the contrary, Education is expected to be the black-box where deductive and innovative ideas are concocted and explored to improve humanity. One is earning salary does not mean you can’t earn more. But today, an average employee is a debtor and has a very high chance of dying miserably. If you think this is an exaggeration, ask an average pensioner? He/she barely gets the peanuts deserved after 35 years of meritorious service. Or better still ask an employee? He/she is indebted directly or indirectly especially if he/she depends solely on salary. Mind you, its cuts across all strata of employees irrespective of their pay because, the higher the pay, the higher the lifestyle, the higher the persons to help spent it. Show me one employee living larger than his income and devoid of debt, and then I will show you a thief/criminal/financial fraudster/ bribe collector who do not depend on his genuine income. Mind you, there are exceptions to those who are engaged in businesses and other genuine enterprises. Sorry, I do not meant to be that harsh; man must survive but it is the hard truth. These times we find ourselves might be very bad economically but for entrepreneurs who are open-minded, it is a time to be creative and innovative. It is a time to do something different. A time to increase/have more than one source of income. You can take charge of your future only when you take charge of your income source. To do that, you need your own business. Networking is a personal business where you build people by adding value through several products and services offered by the parent networking company. There are several products and services that needed to be promoted to people who actually need them. And instead of these companies going to the media, they would rather choose Networking because it is a grass-root model, a customer-to-customer advertisement. An in place of paying for advert and promotions, these customers are being paid. By implication, if an entrepreneur key into this business model, he/she would enjoy all the benefit of owning a physical business model without the associated risk such as recurrent expenditures. More so, there is no limitation to your earnings provided you are working towards it (Performance is the key). So if now or in the nearest future, your employer would pay you a constant peanut just for you to meet up with a particular performance index; don’t you think its better you work for yourself, in your own pace, at your leisure time and not receive peanuts as salary. The future you want, you create consciously or unconsciously. I would rather have you create a solid future consciously now. |
| Business › Re: Understanding Networking Business by dankol(op): 11:12pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
THE 21ST CENTURY BUSINESS The invent of the Victorian System of Education brought about the Introduction of the White-Collar jobs. Jobs that require professional skills more than physical labour. It was the most lucrative, most enterprising and most rewarding. In the early 90’s, a school cert holder is well respected far more than an elder in the village. The Victorian system of Education created living machines or robots suitable for administrative work (the corporate world) even till today. Now, there is nothing absolutely wrong with being a Career person but everything is totally wrong when we are not malleable to Change. Change they say is a constant thing. Today, working in the Corporate world/economy is no longer guaranteed , how much more help fulfill everyone’s dream because, there are less administrative work to do, those in the system do not want to leave at the appropriate time and if they do, they put their own persons. It is always assumed that the corporate world is the safest and most respected place to work. Today, every now and then, the government and other Corporate public and private entities are downsizing, implementing pay cut, cutting down cost at any slightest chance. Do you still think your job is safe? An average pensioner barely gets his pension, yet an average graduate dreams of working in that same Corporate world. What an irony? Personally, I wouldn’t blame anyone who sticks to his gun on Corporate world because the readily available alternative such as physical business ownership in the form of semi-professional skills like hairdressing, mechanics, fashion designing etc.; Provision shop amongst others; have need for a reasonable capital which is barely available. So we are stuck! Just take a look at the trend 100 years ago: • Go to school to learn to be an employee • Join a company waiting to employ you • Work for the company for donkey years • Retire and be redundant till death comes calling A few decades ago: • Go to school to learn to be an employee • Find a company that will employ you • Switch companies for various political/economic/financial reason till you are satisfied • Make sure you do not retire because you have nothing tangible to fall back to by adjusting your documents, so you can stay a little more while you do everything you can to retire massively and financially stable at least. • Retire and be redundant till death comes calling Today: • Go to school to learn to be an employee • Find out you are either unemployable because you lack basic skill now needed by recruiting companies or you are one hell of a lucky dude who is employed which can be due to several factors, one of which I call the NIGERIAN FACTOR. • Go into entrepreneurship or go to learn a skill to start a small scale business which may or may not survive the first two years • Continue to switch between jobs or join the political terrain • Whichever path you choose, you are still a low income earner, one with a Journey Of Borrowers earning Something Always Low And Ridicules You . Just like Robert Kiyosaki said “Your job is not going to take care of you. The government will not take care of you. Nobody’s going to take care of you. It’s a new century, and the rules have changed. My parents believed in job security, company pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. These are all worn-out, obsolete ideas left over from an age gone by. Today job security is a joke, and the very idea of lifetime employment with a single company—an ideal so proudly championed by IBM in its heyday—is as anachronistic as a manual typewriter” If you’ve spent years climbing the corporate ladder, have you ever stopped to notice the view? What view, you ask? The rear end of the person in front of you. That’s what you get to look forward to. If that’s the way you want to view the rest of your life, then this write up probably isn’t for you. But if you are sick and tired of looking at someone else’s behind, then keep tab with NETWORK 101 series. Now, it is important to know that the economy is not the issue. The issue is YOU. Life is tough. The question is, what are you going to do about it? Or are you part of those who keep on blaming witches and unverifiable phenomenon of your challenges In as much as the above scenario is still at play in Nigeria, the world’s paradigm has changed from corporate time economy to performance economy. In the nearest future, YOU will be paid according to your performance irrespective of your profession. Already, it is happening in several sectors top on the list is the banking sector. . If you want a solid future, you need to create it. You can take charge of your future only when you take control of your income source. You need your own business. A 21st century business called Networking. NB: No one will employ you a graduate because of your certificate, but the skills you have acquired wherever, whenever which is the key to your performance. Its not gona be business as usual anymore. STEP UP |
| Business › Re: Understanding Networking Business by dankol(op): 5:34pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
A NEW ECONOMIC MODEL (PERFORMANCE BASED) Over the years firms employ people for their time especially in Nigeria. An average office job is a 6am-6pm time frame. So irrespective of whether the day was productive or not, an employee is expectant of his Something Always Low And Ridicles You (Peanuts) at the end of a time frame usually 30 days. But, permit to forsee the future, that productivity will be underlying factor to earn as one will be paid by one’s performance and not by one’s time. What this means is that, • A sales person would not get expected pay until he/she meet target sales. • An employee earning a steady salary let’s say N100,000 would have it slashed to basic pay like N20,000 and would be given a performance benchmark to meet up to earn additional pay. No, you have no option than to keep the job because there are several persons who will jump at the job. Moreso, the firm has nothing to lose but everything to gain. You are the one on the hot seat. Hit the target, earn more. Fail to do that; earn far less. Now, by the time you consistently hit performance target, guess what? It would be raised (a new target is given). Listen, that is what the future holds for every profession sooner or later. Is someone saying it’s not possible? Ok. May I remind you, there are lesser jobs to do courtesy of technology and recession. Firms are cutting cost with immediate alacrity. Thus, creating an under-staffed working environment with only the anointed few either by merit or by the opposite of it that were spared. These spared employees are over-worked and given expected targets. Check around in the banking sector, civil service, the oil and gas sector to come to terms with reality. Still in doubt? if I may ask; • when was the last time you wrote a letter and posted it? When you could just make call. • When was the last time you bought/rent movies in a movie store? When you could just download away in a jiffy. • When was the last time you went to the bank to withdraw at the counter? When the ATM is a stone’s throw away. Do you realize, technology and efficiency is taking away our every day jobs.The hand writing is well written on the wall. You can choose to read, acknowledge and begin to re-align or worst still ignore it. A new Economic model has come to stay and has brought with it the means to survive it (Network Marketing). |
| Business › Re: Understanding Networking Business by dankol(op): 12:46pm On Feb 25, 2017 |
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT NETWORKING At the mention of Network Marketing business lots of Nigerians flee. Their running away could be as a result of bad experiences or wrong information and mis-information about the business. Many of us cannot tell the difference between 'Ponzi' schemes and networking marketing. In fact, I think ponzi schemes (which many have fallen many victims) is part of the reasons why network marketing has such a bad name in many Nigerian minds.The key reasons why this business concept, though amazing, is not working for many Nigerians are a function of what they have been told or seen especially from the unsuccessful persons. Some of the impressions include: An External point of view (An average Nigerian not interested or have lost interest in Networking) 1. Network Marketing is all about HAWKING DRUGS. Response: All things being equal, no genuine marketing firm hawks drugs, i.e. if they are selling drugs which i strong doubt. What many persons perceive as drugs are actually food supplements. 2. Networking is about using people to enrich a very priviledged few. [b]Response: Actually, this is not true especially if you understand the nature of the business model. It is pyramidal in nature just like any organization that have very few people at the top with huge benefits and the lower you go, the less benefit. The difference between a genuine networking model and an average corporate body is that, firstly, any one can get to the top at any point in time in the former as there are no hard and fast rules. It is strictly performance base. While in the later, promotion is a function of several things amonsgt which age, certificate, connection, aggressive ambition are factors that determines where one will end up in the percking order. These persons whom you think are enriched or using people actually worked for it. And if you do your homework well, you could be part of them. it is not 1 + 1, it is actually a gradual thing. The problem with Nigerians is that, we are money-conscious such that everyone wants fast money. Put N5 to get N10 at the expenses of others whom you think you outsmart.[/b] 3. Many persons have been swindled, used and dumped in the name of Networking.This is actually not a misconception but a serious challenge. Response: The very few who have been swindled by ingenuine networking firms or greedy nigerians who work with genuine networking firms, have used their experiences as a yardstick to shut down on networking. I wouldn't blame them. This form the bulk of the major resisitivity to the Networking business model. But,it does not remove the fact that, there are persons making it real big in this Business model. The difference is this, they were lucky to get the right information from the right persons, they took time to understand the business model and work towards achieving their dreams amidst the negativity. An Internal point of view (An average Nigerian who was coerced and deceived into Networking) In as much as Nigerians are willing to do anything to make money, there is something most persons fail to do. Understand the modus operandi of whatever they are getting into. According to Eric Worre, Many persons who are in this category are either Posers or Amateurs. And sooner or later, they will fall out of the business. Why? lack of patience, lack of understanding, unteachable mentality, selfishness and greed. Other things that lead to failure and misconception include: 4. They don't work as a team. Everyone is working independently and selfishly striving to outdo each other Response: Networking is Teamwork. Teamwork is networking. immediately anyone in your team begins to loose focus, it will affect the growth of virtually everyone in that team. And for it to work, the nigerian mentality of ME, I, MYSELF must be exponged to be WE, US, OURSELVES. 5. They partner with Network Marketing Company with big but shallow reward schemes Response: This is a very genuine challenge. And this usually crops up when one finds it difficult to develop his/her team. It is expected that before you join any networking business firm, do your background check them. Know their conpensation plans and more importantly, what kind of products do they sell, can YOU use the product? take note, i did not say, can you sell them? 6. Many persons claims they cant do marketing of products Response: When i usually hear this, i laugh inside of me. why? because just as man is a political animal, so is man a naturally instinctive marketing officer. But, we fail to be realistic. Our problem is not telling people about the products, Our challenge is simply, TRUST ISSUES. Do you actually believe that the products can do what is ascribed to do? have you actually used it to boost your confidence in it? There is nothing being used or useful in life, if it is not recommended. Whatever product or goods or services you engage today is a function of recommendation by someone you know physically or some place you heard it recommended. And you bought it because, you have been told of its efficacy. So, marketing or recommending a product is not the problem, but your trust level in the product and one more thing, your ego. 7. The products are too costly especially when we have its equivalent very cheap here. Response: This challenge is a Nigerian challenge. We like cheap things and we do know cheap things do not only last, they are of poor quality and worst still have negative health implications on us. So the question is,would you rather have something that would help you maintain your health, improve it at some quality cost or use cheap and degrading products piling up decay and illness in our bodies till it manifest such a way that, it will cost us extremely much to regain health. That is a matter of one's choice to make. 8. You'll just sign up to a network marketing business and money would keep flowing into your bank account while you sleep all day and hang out with friends. Response: If you don't understand the products you're promoting and don't know how the model works, you're only flushing your money down the toilet. Network marketing requires knowledgable, smart and goal-oriented people. Now you may not fit into all of the aforementioned but you can make yourself fit, if you deem it fit. If you are determined to succeed. networking is like any other business that requires one's time and effort but not as much as other kinds of businesses. it is passive in nature and more importantly. You do not need physical presence but you need human presence because, that is your capital. For more info: visit http://todak-koncept..com.ng/ |
| Business › Re: Understanding Networking Business by dankol(op): 2:05am On Feb 25, 2017 |
BRIEF HISTORY OF MLM (Networking) Network Marketing Started in the early 1940’s. It was started by a company by the name California Vitamins, that discovered that most of it’s new sales force coming aboard were mostly friends and family members of their existing sales force. This they discovered was because they were interested in buying at wholesale prices. They also discovered that it was easier to sell more with a large sales force, than a few superstars. They combined these two ideas together, developed a compensation structure and allowed their sales force to make confer representative status on their satisfied customers. The sales force grew exponentially and the company rewarded all the sales reps for the sales produced. That was the birth of Network Marketing. The company later changed it’s name to NutraLite Food Supplement Corporations. Not long after, in 1959, former distributors of NutraLite Rich DeVoss and Jay Van Andel, started Amway Company. Amway became the popular benchmark for Network Marketing. WHY SO MUCH NEGATIVITY? One of the reasons for the success of Network Marketing in the 1990’s is that it is based on cooperation, not competition. Unlike in traditional business, career advancement in network marketing comes directly from helping to create success with those that you introduce to the company. Network Marketing is sharing information that results in product sales. People involve themselves because they want to finally be compensated for what their efforts are really worth. They’re involved because somebody cared enough about them to show them the awesome opportunity of network marketing. They get involved because they were ready to make a change. Why Hasn’t the Truth About Network Marketing Been Told? · People resist change and are fearful of what is not fully understood. People are comfortable with what is known and accepted by most. · The truth is that most people in power today have an overriding fear of the loss of their own power. Network Marketing is about empowerment of the individual. · Newspapers, magazines, radio and television earn their primary profits from their advertisers. Is it in the media’s best interest to say anything positive about an industry that does not advertise? Do you suppose major traditional marketing companies that are receiving increased competition from network marketing companies are excited? Whose side do you suppose the media would take to protect their advertising dollar? Just as in any business or industry, there are scams and schemes that hurt the industry image. Real estate has had its scams. Banking and Savings and Loans have had their improprieties. Ministries have had abuses for self-serving purposes. The stock market has had its insider trading scandals. Why should network marketing be any different? Look at the company, the product, its management and their past history. Understand the commitment that is necessary to achieve success and residual income. This advice is just as valid in network marketing as in anything else. It’s interesting how resistant we are to change. We want to stay in our comfort zones even when we’re miserable. It’s been said network marketing is the next step in the evolution of free enterprise. But there is one thing we can always be assured of: the most fundamental fact of life in our world today is that change is inevitable! |
| Business › Understanding Networking Business by dankol(op): 1:49am On Feb 25, 2017 |
Good day everyone, Actually this my first topic in this section and thats because i find new prospect in the aformentioned topic after doing my own little research. many persons are actually anti-networking in nigeria and thats absolutely understandable due to what i call the Nigerian factor. But never the less, i discovered that, we are only scared of what we are ignorant of and also self centred. What do i mean by self centred. An average Nigerian is not willing to support a course that will help a neighbour (Nigerian) succeed. The feeling is like 'This guy won use my head'. Though to an extend some Nigerians are like that but it does not remove the fact that Nigerians need Nigerians to succeed. Hence, i put it upon myself to educate as many persons to the best of my knowledge, why they should give Multi-Level Marketing a.k.a Networking a chance. or better still read what i have about it. you might have a change of heart. Thanks |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Testimonies Of An Atheist by dankol: 11:44pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
adoyi8:loool.. my brother in d ministry, I tire o. them plenty for my side too. there was one that like disturbing us at midnight in the hostel back then. one night I stood up and warned him to lower his voice or I will pour him water from upstairs I was. he replied that, I am playing with fire and started cursing o.. he tot I was joking.. when I full bucket.. him shut down .. lo and behold, he was on probation and still in the hostel, cabashing. I really pity them.. deep down within me. Iol 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Testimonies Of An Atheist by dankol: 11:15pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
hey op, thanks for the testimony jare.. I guess its testimony time for the freshest atheist graduates in the house. if some of u can remember my story sometimes early last year. na me be dis ooo.. waxing stronger in the anti-faith. op.. just like u, I got a very sweet scholarship. and made my parents proud by graduating at the appointed time and with good grades. no prayer, no fasting, no seed sowing, no religious shit.. while I left some papas behind in school sha. cos while I was studying, they were praying. now they are now studying while I am flexing.. my shutout to my colleagues awaiting Now Your Suffering Continues. aka NYSC 7 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Benefits And Privileges Of Being A Christian by dankol: 2:11pm On Feb 05, 2017 |
ADEWUMIMichael:d how does it deliever us from recession, put quality food on the table. you have not even live this life well enough, na heaven u dey talk.. abegi 1 Like |
| Education › Re: Annual Xfire Nairaland Undergraduate Quiz Competition (scholarship) - Maiden Ed. by dankol: 7:00pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
School: University of Uyo, Level: 500 Level Course: petroleum engineering Email: todak2000@gmail.com |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reigner's Bible Church Collapse: Reason For Self Reexamination by dankol: 3:18pm On Dec 11, 2016 |
bros.. go and hit d nail on the head.. is it not d church of God. the question is was God sleeping to allow such befall Hus own church.. who Jesus EPP.. when he could not help himself on d cross 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And Jesus Didn't Forbid Slavery In The Bible. But Why? by dankol: 3:02pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
jcross19:seriously.. i salute your courage to speakout. i am really impressed cos, you have clearly proved that some persons can still actually do some logical reasoning ans still choose to be a christian and that i sure respect. Pastor Logic.. Thumbs up sir 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Church Building Collapses In Akwa Ibom During Service, Many Feared Injured. PICS by dankol: 2:53pm On Dec 10, 2016 |
Oboy.. this is not funny ooo.. Another TB joshua in the making. I comment my reserve. there have been a lot of deaths of late that is really terrifying. RIP to the dead. I hope their God recieve them with open arms when they get to the gate of heaven. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "MMM Is Satanic; If You're Involved, You're Demonic" - Apostle Suleman (VIDEO) by dankol: 11:35pm On Dec 04, 2016 |
What a piece of trash but meaningful to his guilible adherents. Anyway.. ignorance is indeed a costless virtue. it does not matter, you could be a professor and still be ignorant. smh for those who will believe the trash he spewed from his ajebo mouth |
| Christianity Etc › Re: PROPHESY ABOUT MMM by dankol: 2:45pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
absolute jargons...  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Does MMM Really Stands For? by dankol: 5:18pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
like seriously... a spiritual dimension to MMM..  ... I am flabbagasted. my dear Africa, when will common sense and logic have a say in our evaluation of issues... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 9:43am On Oct 16, 2016 |
blessedvisky:Am cool bro... how are u doing too? Got anything to say to me about the above post you transported here |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why No Christian Lady Should Ever Marry An Atheist!! by dankol: 5:40pm On Oct 08, 2016 |
Op.. You seems too full of hatred for atheists and their likes. let me shock you. My fiance is a practicing christian and i am an agnostics... We are doing fine.. we had our issues.. we settled it.. set the boundary.. and we both respect it.. See.. Marriage or relationship is not a function of religion. it is rather a function of two dissimilar people from different background WILLING, ABLE and MATURED enough to COMPROMISE, SACRIFICE, COMMUNICATE effectively with each other and more importantly.. BEAR each other's imperfection. Religion has failed in virtually every aspect of life... except to keep people in slavery. Whether you marry a practicing christian or not.. if the attitude is BAD and not willing to adjust.. YOU ARE DAMNED.. simple.. dont act like one of you worshiped daddies in the Lord, who asked his congregation not to marry a lady that cant pray... ALL THAT ARE NOT BASIC PER-REQUISITE TO HAVE A LASTING, ENJOYABLE MARRIAGE. So think again.. your hatred for people who do not believe in what you believe wont help you. 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why No Christian Lady Should Ever Marry An Atheist!! by dankol: 5:39pm On Oct 08, 2016 |
hmmm.. another pained religionist 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 1:34pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
blessedvisky:I am not surprised.. Curiosity is the first step to freedom.. Anyway.. I think its time I officially end this thread because, thats the end of story and as for my write-ups.. i wont be able to keep up coupled with a lot of responsibilities on me now. I want to use this medium to thank you all for reading with sincerity and otherwise. To those who feel sorry for me- Thanks for your concern.. I do appreciate as I am more concerned for you now than you are for me. to those who are enraged with me- thats the beauty of the internet, i do appreciate your fierce criticism. it was taken in the good fate. AND TO THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE ACTUALLY FREE FROM THE SLAVERY OF RELIGION- THANK YOU OOOO FOR THE IMMENSE ENCOURAGEMENT. The Unbelieving community of Nairaland is really awesome and encouraging others to come out. Thanks a bunch 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 7:59pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Will update soon.. please bear withme.. i have been a kinda busy...thanks |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Believe The Great Flood In Noah's Story Actually Happened? by dankol: 12:11pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
Dinocarex:Bros.. U fall my hand  Nothing comes from nothing neither should a creator of something comes from nothing.. It's an endless circle.. Infinity |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 10:24am On Aug 26, 2016 |
[b]GOD OF DISUNITY I know many professing Christians are familiar with the tower of babel story. But permit to tell you about my understanding about that passage. I recall some years ago when one pastor used the passage Genesis 11: 1-9 to preach with an emphasis on verse 6. (NIV) “The LORD said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, THEN NOTHING THEY PLAN TO DO WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM”. My pastor said back then that, “that passage depicts the importance of unity in any organization, that even God could not STOP them because, they had resolved to build that tower.” I am sure many of you my dear readers have heard such messages. But can we be realistic about that passage, it reflected a lot of things about God, which I would like to project as questions 1. Why did God not allow them to build the tower? Because from my perspective, they wanted to build a legacy for themselves and moreover, they emphasized on being together. Verse 3-4 (NIV) “They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, SO THAT WE MAY MAKE A NAME FOR OURSELVES; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”. Now someone zealous religionist will tell me, it was against God’s will or plan for mankind in Genesis 1:28. Now, where is freewill in that? 2. Fine, ok, Oga creator does not want them to stay together because of his unknown selfish plan, verse 6 reflected one thing: GOD WAS SCARED of what they had achieved and what they would achieve if he let them be (freewill). Hence, for God’s will to be on track, he needed to override their freewill. Why did God not use that opportunity to reveal himself to the world, protect the unity of mankind and that of his mode of worship since everyone speak same language? 3. Did the all-knowing God saw this coming (the building of the tower) ? If he did it wont be in the scriptures. 4. Did the all-knowing God know implication of the language dispersion now? i.e Ethno-religious wars such as the Bosnian ethnic cleansing, Holocaust, the one happening under our nose in Northern Nigeria, Sudanese ethnic war amongst others. I just want to conclude by saying, when there is ethnic war, ethnic cleansing and all the tribal issues we are having throughout the world today. Remember, God is the cause because of his SELFISH AGENDA. I guess it is also part of his plan, - decimation of man by man. [/b] 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 6:32am On Aug 24, 2016 |
[b]CHAPTER SIXTEEN CONTINUM IV THE MULTIVARIATE BODY OF CHRIST II What defines a Christian denomination is not what CAN or PFN says, neither is it what the World Council of Churches says. But rather what is common amongst all and what makes that group of persons unique. Infact, they could believe in the same tenents of faith, but by virtue of the fact that, one is PAULINUS and the other LONG-JOHN with different autonomous leaders makes each a denomination. May I remind you the meaning of denomination- a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church. (Synonyms- Religious group, sect, cult, movement, body, branch, order, church). The BODY OF CHRIST today, is not just disjointed but multivariate meaning it involves more than one independent variable. All things being equal, the initial body of Christ being referred to by Paul was only dependent on JESUS (the only independent variable). Today, Men of God, Superintendents, General Overseers, Apostles and what have you have risen to such standard. How do I mean? They set the standard for their church members on what to wear, how to wear it, who to marry, how to marry, criteria to choose a spouse that is not mentioned in the bible, how to raise kids, who to interact with and every facet of human life. That is why an average Christian cannot do anything without informing his pastor, because Jesus is not in charge, they are in charge on behalf of Jesus (Business partners). Jesus is like the Queen of England, they are the Prime minister(s). Now, let me go straight to the most critical of my point about the body of Christ. Let me shock a few of you dear readers who are not privy to know that THERE ARE THREE POPES OF DIFFERENT CHURCHES IN THE WORLD apart from the numerous General Overseers and Superintendents who hold sway over their respective members. They include: • The Pope of the Roman Catholic Church: This is one everyone knows and most recognized. (After the order of St.Peter) • The Pope of the Palmarian Catholic Church (in Spain): The church regards on the grounds of claimed apparitions, that the Pope of Rome is excommunicated and that the position of the Holy See has, since 1978, been transferred to their See of El Palmar de Troya. Pope Hernández resigned in 2016 to marry and was succeeded by Joseph Odermatt (Pope Peter III) in 2016. • The Pope of Alexandria and Patriarch of All Africa (Non-Chalcedonian / Coptic Orthodox): The Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria is the leader of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, a faith with ancient Christian roots in Egypt. This current holder of this position is Theodoros II or Tawadros II, who was selected as the 118th pope on November 4, 2012. Following the traditions of the church, the pope is chairman and head of the Holy Synod of the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria as a first among equals. This organization is the highest authority in the Church of Alexandria, which has between 12 and 18 million members worldwide, 10 to 14 million of whom are in Egypt. The leader of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria is known as Pope of Alexandria and Patriarch of all Africa on the Holy See of St. Mark the Apostle. The Successor of St. Mark the Evangelist, Holy Apostle and Martyr, on the Holy Apostolic Throne of the Great City of Alexandria. Others (I named them pope basically as a function of huge number of followership). • Pope of the Redeemed Christian Church of God: We know him too well. Please, calling him Pope means no insult but with the level of his influence and extra biblical teachings, I found it honorary to give him that title. • The Pope(s) of the Anglican Churches worldwide: check out their Lamberth conference, you will agree with me why I call them popes. Each country’s pope may not have influence in other, for instance, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu is a well respected Anglican Bishop yet supports LGBT community but his Nigerian counterpart is all the way out against it. THE BODY OF CHRIST INDEED! Let me look for trouble here, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu as quoted by Wikipedia : “You have to understand is that the Bible is really a library of books and it has different categories of material," he said. There are certain parts which you have to say no to. The Bible accepted slavery. St Paul said women should not speak in church at all and there are people who have used that to say women should not be ordained. There are many things that you shouldn't accept.” Do all of the body Christ agree with that position? • There are several other leaders of different denominations, the Mormons, Methodists, The African Church, The Presbyterian church, Assemblies of God, the Baptist, Lutheran, Reformed Church, Orthodox, Evangelical, Episcopal, Latter Days, Church of Christ, United Church,- these are just a few generic names, some are even combined. No matter how close kinned they all may seem to be, the differences is what makes each of them stand out with their respective dogmas.- the differences, while the doctrine brings them together – the commonality such as the belief in Jesus and other basic biblical supported doctrines. Let me bring this home, Pardon me, please members of these churches should not take it as an affront, I just want to state facts: Living Faith Church (Business Entreprises) effectively managed by Bishop Oyedepo believes and practice WASHING OF FEET (e dey bible ooo) AND GIVING HOLY COMMUNION TO KIDS- (I stand to be corrected if they perhaps have changed these dogmas). While RCCG conglomerate of Businesses presided over by Pope Adeboye, do not do any of the above. But I put it to you, if I am a RCCG pastor today and I instruct my members to give their children holy communion, not only will they revolt, I would be reported and sanctioned. There is something they call “REDEEMED STANDARD”, if you fall short of it, you will be under scrutiny and fire. I have a plea, if indeed , this body of Christ is united, Can Pastor Chris Oyakilohme go to Cherubium and Seraphim to preach? Would Pastor Kumuyi go to Catholic diocese of Sokoto and do mass with Bishop Kukah? Would Pastor Lazarus Maouka invite Pastor Adeboye, or better still, O.O Obu for a special programme in his church? Would Pastor Oyedepo and Fiery preacher Olukoya go to ECWA church in Bauchi to do revival? Please do not tell me that’s why they have CAN or PFN. In the first place, should PFN exist? Or if you mean to make reference to their Ecumenical meeting at Ecumencal centre in Abuja- that’s political. While Bling Bling pastor was in charge, the Catholic block were never supportive. So tell me, Where is that body of Christ, Jesus would come to take? Is it the one after the order of Mark, or the one after the order of Peter, or the thousands of breakaway factions. You will never find a sticker that says “I AM A CHRISTIAN” without denominational undertone. For instance, “I AM A WINNER”; “I AM REDEEMED”; “MY YEAR OF UNPRECEDENTED BREAKTHOUGH” amongst others. Well it is good to console yourself with one fact, ALL FACTIONS, DENOMINATIONS HAVE ONE OR TWO FAITH IN JESUS, that binding enough, but not enough to compare with a human body as Paul did BECAUSE THE HUMAN BODY WORK TOGETHER, ACT AS ONE, SUPPORT EACH OTHER,HELP EACH OTHER. Does the body of Christ do any of the above? Your truth may not be my truth . At the end of the day, every pastorpreneur is running his business as he or she wants (kudos to Arch Bishop Margaret Idahosa, she managing her family business well) as an independent partner of christ. Hence, Christ is not in the loop sef, He is just a figure head just to keep people in the system. Because, the Pope of Rome do not recognize any other Pope, each make their own decisions. Jesus don suffer! What a Body! A Multivariate one! [/b] 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists In Lagos And Worldwide, Come And Witness Limb Growing Miracle!!!!! by dankol: 12:06pm On Aug 21, 2016 |
The earnest expectation of dankol is patiently waiting for the manifestation of the miracle (video evidence). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: There Are No Atheists! by dankol: 11:53am On Aug 21, 2016 |
OP YOU ARE RELATIVELY WRONG SIR 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 4:08pm On Aug 18, 2016 |
[b]CHAPTER SIXTEEN CONTINUED III THE MULTIVARIATE BODY OF CHRIST There are several passages that made reference to the body of Christ. They all were inferring at one basic thing; UNITY OF PURPOSE, MANDATE AND DESTINATION. Romans 12 : 4 and 5: “Just as each of us has one body with many members, and not all members have the same function, so in Christ we who are many are one body, and each member belongs to one another.” 1 Corinthians 12: 20: “As it is, there are many parts, but one body.” Before, I go to the main point, I would like to use my little biology knowledge to grasp the understanding of the BODY. Paul explicitly compared the BODY OF CHRIST to a human body, Christ being the head- I don’t know if the Catholic church has issues with this, maybe-maybe not. But I quite know, many other denominations, do not have issues with Christ being the head of the church as opposed to the Pope being the head of the church. Now, how does the body function? How does it work? What and What does the body consist of that makes it an entity of unity to reckon with? It is a verifiable fact that every cell in our body is dependent on another directly or indirectly. Though they may have different function with respect to which ever part of the body they are situated but they all achieve one thing, UNITY OF PURPOSE, MANDATE AND DESTINATION. Meaning, the leg cells can’t do without the FULL support of other parts of the body except something goes wrong. Now, you may seem to think, I have forgotten the function of the medulla oblongata in this, no, I am quite aware, it is the engine room of every activity. Meaning, it coordinates and ensure total compliance to any activity as it deem fit. Permit me to bring this analogy back into the BODY OF CHRIST, which consist of several thousands of denominations all over the world even as new mushroom body parts are springing up in every nook and cranny of this moral-less, right-thinking-lessness yet pious nation. An average Pentecostal Christian cannot bear to stay or listen to an Olumba member. Please do not tell me it is a cult because they carry the same bible you carry. The hatred for Jehovah Witnesses is unprecedented amongst other denominations and the rife goes on like that even amongst sub-denominations. The recent CAN presidency tussle was drama to behold. I can’t just mention them all, it is countless in the BODY OF CHRIST (Nigerian Part). Tell me, why if as a seasoned Pastor from Christ Apostolic Church join let’s say, RCCG and I have to start all over again from baptismal class. If I don’t, I won’t be able to rise through the rank and file of the church hierarchy. Is it not the same God? Same bible? Same doctrines at some point? BUT DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP AND DOGMA. I recall, I was at a crusade some years ago where a renowned Bishop called Jehovah Witnesses, “Jehovah Wickedness”. It was glaring, he hated them with passion and was consistently rubbishing them, guess what, for any joke about them, we all laugh (a show or feeling of superiority). I recall some persons said, Olumba is not a Christian body. Well, by virtue of what they are told, it could be right, but by logic, they are wrong. Irrespective of what olumba claims to be, and additional doctrines, They totally believe and use the bible.. So who is a christian, if he/she is not a follower of Christ? If he/she does not believe in the Bible. Please stop the deceit and check out their tenets here: http://www.wordcenter.org/Bcs/tenets.htm [/b] |
| Christianity Etc › Re: FROM FAITH TO Facts:collection Of My Thoughts, Experience & Sojourn In Religion by dankol(op): 4:00pm On Aug 18, 2016 |
CHARLOE:Thats the beauty of a logical mind, never stop being curious and never ruling anything out especially when the issue in perspective is not clear. based on your question, i quite understand your point and let me say once again.. am not an atheist, i rather belong to the agnostic group.. Still in search of the truth just that so far, religion is not it.. so the search goes on. Yea, the earth seems like a perfect creation from an intelligent being, but untill that intelligent being is known or proved to exist.I choose not to acknowledge any.But then, in as much as we can find things that seems perfect in nature, there are things that are not... for instance, the earthquakes, flood, the imbalance in weather all over the world, its either to cold, too hot, to humid and what have you in one part or another part of the world. I dnt mind we rub minds together, please open the thread and let like minds discuss and lets learn from one another |
| Christianity Etc › Re: From Atheism To Jesus: My Testimony by dankol: 12:39am On Aug 18, 2016 |
hungryboy:Lol.. Bro.. You read my mind.. Infact I never intended to reply until I saw ur comment. I have always said... One is a function of his experience first amongst other things. And that's what happened to the op... This life can be liken to a system. Where equilibrium is expected.. There will always be conservation of matter... Mass in - mass out = mass accumulated.... The way the op left, and came back.. Same some fellas are doing in reverse to the op... But let me correct a notion here... I realize most of you Christians see non Christians as terrible law breakers and immoral fellas... I out it to u sirs and mas... That's a fallacy..if u doubt it... Just go to the nearest bar, hotel, club, and whatever bad place u know, most of them are chronic religionists.. Enjoy ur new life in Christ op.. I wish u D best... Yours not in faith |
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