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Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Vs Dr Sign Fireman: Who's Faker? by dare2think: 3:49pm On Dec 02, 2011
^^^

Ask for directions to the unverifiable miracle centre.

I'm sure you'll get directions.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 2:28pm On Dec 02, 2011
Lol @ sagamite

I am not gonna give these fraudsters the benefit of the doubt to flood the Internet with garbage.

Lucky enough, I happen to have their time. Evil prevails when good men do nothing.

I've had enough of this fraudsters imposing their fraud on all of us.

Men of God Fraud.

(no, I'm not a shrink)
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Vs Dr Sign Fireman: Who's Faker? by dare2think: 2:17pm On Dec 02, 2011
He probably gets carried away and probably thinks NL folks are his congregation or could be his congregation.

He forgets though that the Internet is a medium for education and research.

So his feudal principles/utterances  are worthless and easily cross-checked through the medium.

Nothing but opportunists. (Man of GOd my foot)
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 1:45pm On Dec 02, 2011
How is he a fraudster?

How about;




Firstly, lets start with the meaning of Fraud: According to the Macmillan dictionary;

1. the crime of obtaining money from someone by tricking them
2. the action of producing false documents or information in order to get what you want
3. someone who pretends to be an official or professional person in order to trick people

Dr Fireman possesses elements from the above. How?

1. What is the motive for changing is name to "sign Fireman"? Deceit and to draw attention and sensationalism

2. Where are the records of the companies he "claims" to have from the age of 12? No evidence whatsoever that he had/has them so its safe to conclude that this is wrong information. Relate this to No 2 of the dictionary meaning above.

3.  Did he not notice that his secretary (Taskgirl/ firegirl) had demons in her all along  whilst working for him? But he had to remove the demons in front of his congregation in order to emphasise his deceit. That is trickery. Pls relate this to no1 of the dictionary meaning above

4. At the end of the service, his sheep were putting money at his feet after his charade. so yes, he seem to have money to gain from all these trickery.

Edit:5. Another reason for his deceit is his use of "Dr", is he a doctor? where did he get his doctorate from? If you can not tell me, then it is safe to to conclude that he falls under no3 of the dictionary meaning of Fraud above.
.
My Conclusion;

He his a Fraudster
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Vs Dr Sign Fireman: Who's Faker? by dare2think: 1:37pm On Dec 02, 2011
Pls what is fireman's real name?
Where did he get his doctorate from?
What are the names of the companies he owned since age 12?
Including his aircraft and goldmine companies.



Answers anyonehuh
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Vs Dr Sign Fireman: Who's Faker? by dare2think: 1:35pm On Dec 02, 2011
^^^^^

You are not aware that he changed his name?

You belong in a circus. Comedy is your forte and I am so glad your theatrics are becoming more evident for all to see.

Keep it coming, you are actually making more people aware of the decay in religion and fraud going on within.

Bayelsa Christ embassy chapter. I hail thee.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 11:10am On Dec 02, 2011
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Like I said only a fraudster would defend another fraudster.

Taskgirl is not up to the task.


Fireman and his team of fraudsters are pathetic and your day of reckoning would arrive eventually.
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Vs Dr Sign Fireman: Who's Faker? by dare2think: 10:19am On Dec 02, 2011
Believe everything, question nothing.

Unfortunately for you joagbaje, this is not the 11th or 18th century.

Only a fraudster would condone a fraudster.

Pls what is fireman's real name?
Where did he get his doctorate from?
What are the names of the companies he owned since age 12?
Including his aircraft and goldmine companies.

No answers for the past two days.

He is not only a fraudster, he is also a deviant.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 7:52pm On Dec 01, 2011
Ademiro ------off

Fathermis------on


Pathetic people, sorry pathetic individual.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 5:59pm On Dec 01, 2011
Fathermis,

You guys are no providing the information I have been asking, so how am gonna critisize information you are unable to provide.

Once again.

My wonderful Christian friends, I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.

Pls forgive me.

Can you please provide me with answers to questions  puzzling me, since you seem to know Mr Fire-man very well.

What is Fireman's real name?

What is the name of his Gold mine and air-craft business?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?

Which institution accorded him the doctorate accolade?

Thank you

Pls could be kind enough to provide substantial proof.

Once again, sorry if I offended you.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 5:45pm On Dec 01, 2011
^^^^^^

Nigerian is in a state of constant regression with folks like Joagbaje allowed to "lead" a congregation.

Its unfortunate and we wonder why other nations regard our country as a very corrupt nation.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 5:38pm On Dec 01, 2011
Claus:
Other proofhuh There was no proof in the first place.

I only joined the discussion for amusement,
Dude, I'm just getting started with them.

Its travesty from somebody to just feed "jargon" and just expect us to digest it.

It's an insult to honest and hard-working people out there.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 5:33pm On Dec 01, 2011
@r321

lol, pls do

They keep multiplying like insects. (extreme PR machinery)

@Dokita Fireman's apologists


What is Fireman's real name?

What are the names of his Gold mine and air-craft companies?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?

Which institution accorded him the doctorate accolade?

Thank you
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 5:30pm On Dec 01, 2011
Apparently some people are still in a feudal state of mind.

angry
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 5:27pm On Dec 01, 2011
^^^^^^

They are not the only ones who can spam all over the place.


lol, no mind me jare.


Every where they go my questions will follow them until they get answered. (If they ever get answered)
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 4:41pm On Dec 01, 2011
My wonderful Christian friends, I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.

Pls forgive me.

Can you please provide me with answers to questions  puzzling me, since you seem to know Mr Fire-man very well.

What is Fireman's real name?

What is the name of his Gold mine and air-craft business?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?

Which institution accorded him the doctorate accolade?

Thank you

Pls could be kind enough to provide substantial proof.

Once again, sorry if I offended you
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 4:29pm On Dec 01, 2011
Joagbaje,

Pls name the businesses that fetch him money?

I dont have any business with his cars. You are a dubious character and have no shame.

I have been pasting my questions all across the board and even apologised to his miscreants yet ni answers were given.


Still waiting for answers to my questions, until they answer, dr fireman is a fraudster and so is anybody that supports him.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman Is A True Man Of God! by dare2think: 3:15pm On Dec 01, 2011
My wonderful Christian friends, I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.

Pls forgive me.

Can you please provide me with answers to questions puzzling me, since you seem to know Mr Fire-man very well.

What is Fireman's real name?

What is the name of his Gold mine and air-craft business?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?

Which institution accorded him the doctorate accolade?

Thank you

Pls could be kind enough to provide substantial proof.

Once again, sorry if I offended you.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 1:01pm On Dec 01, 2011
Still waiting,
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 1:01pm On Dec 01, 2011
Joagbaje:
You can't negate a man's seyi rhodes'word until you can prove otherwise .
Exactly, waiting for his members to prove otherwise.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr Fireman --- A Man Of God! by dare2think: 12:56pm On Dec 01, 2011
Mr Joagbaje,

I have asked now, and more politely.

So I'm waiting for legitmate answers.

Joagbaje:
When Stephen enter into healing and miracles False accusers showed up. He was stoned to death, same happened to Jesus same happened to paul.
This cant happen to Dr signman though, with all his bodyguards.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr Fireman --- A Man Of God! by dare2think: 12:53pm On Dec 01, 2011
Like I said in my previous post;

Im sorry,since you are good christians ,I guess you should be able to forgive.
So pls help me out.

dare2think:
Awwwww,

My wonderful Christian friends, I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.

Pls forgive me.

Can you please provide me with answers to question puzzling me, since you seem to know Mr Fire-man very well.

What is Fireman's real name?

What is the name of his Gold mine and air-craft business?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?

Which institution accorded him the doctorate accolade?

Thank you

Pls could be kind enough to provide substantial proof.

Once again, sorry if I offended you.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr Sign Fireman --- Real Man Of God! by dare2think: 12:10pm On Dec 01, 2011
Awwwww,

My wonderful Christian friends, I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.

Pls forgive me.

Can you please provide me with answers to question puzzling me, since you seem to know Mr Fire-man very well.

What is Fireman's real name?

What is the name of his Gold mine and air-craft business?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?

Which institution accorded him the doctorate accolade?

Thank you

Pls could be kind enough to provide substantial proof.

Once again, sorry if I offended you.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 11:51am On Dec 01, 2011
Lol,

I have been asking since yesterday, others have been asking, no answers.

Just insults.

Joagbaje, pls give me facts.

What are the names of his companies?

What is the name of the wealthy family he came from?

Where did he get his doctorate from.

What is his is real name?

What are the names of his goldmine and aircraft companies?


The only person that seem to have this information is Doctor fireman.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 11:27am On Dec 01, 2011
Still nobody has been able to supply the name of our doctor's companies that he had since age 12.

No name if any legitimate business.

What the hell, we don't even know his real name.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 11:17am On Dec 01, 2011
Mr joagbaje,

Lol, you call an interview with "Lagos news" facts!!!!!

A gold mine in Russia without a name.

A company that sells air crafts without a name.

I refuse to believe that you are that gullible.

By the way, eguerrila was being satirical (pls, check the meaning). He was highlighting the fallacy in his interview


Pls supply the facts that his members have provided. (the link you provided are excerpts from an interview and not facts)
Christianity EtcRe: Dr Fireman --- A Man Of God! by dare2think: 10:59am On Dec 01, 2011
Pathetic folks,

You guys have not said one thing about Jesus. You flood nairaland to do damage control and protect your fraudster.

Where did he get his doctorate from?

What are the names of the companies he owned at age 12?

Why did he change his name?

Fraudsters defending a fraudster.

(just one person opening several accounts to deceive him or her self)

Shame on you.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 10:12am On Dec 01, 2011
Mr joagbaje,

Where are your facts?

Assumptions goes both ways, positive and negative.

You decline my right to negative assumption whilst you hold your "positive" assumption. (vice versa)

Is that fair.

Where did he get his doctorate from?
What are the names of the 12 companies he owned at age 12?
What is his real name?

His members have not been able to supply facts, yet they flood the religious section to defend their master.

Yet, you rather ask me to provide facts without asking the fraudsters to clear their claims.

Shame on you. ( you turn a blind eye to fraudulent claims while asking those who challenge them to provide facts)


What does that make you?   ( a typical nigerian pastor).  Keep dragging our nation backward.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 10:46pm On Nov 30, 2011
I'm sorry firegirl if I upset you in anyway.

But one thing tho,

Where did your pastor get his doctorate from?

Just curious.
 smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 9:29pm On Nov 30, 2011
I watched the Documentary and and I can deduce for myself how I came to the conclusion that the Man is a Fraudster.

Firstly, lets start with the meaning of[b] Fraud[/b]: According to the Macmillan dictionary;

1. the crime of obtaining money from someone by tricking them
2. the action of producing false documents or information in order to get what you want
3. someone who pretends to be an official or professional person in order to trick people

Dr Fireman possesses elements from the above. How?

1. What is the motive for changing is name to "sign Fireman"? Deceit and to draw attention and sensationalism

2. Where are the records of the companies he "claims" to have from the age of 12? No evidence whatsoever that he had/has them so its safe to conclude that this is wrong information. Relate this to No 2 of the dictionary meaning above.

3.  Did he not notice that his secretary (Taskgirl/ firegirl) had demons in her all along  whilst working for him? But he had to remove the demons in front of his congregation in order to emphasise his deceit. That is trickery. Pls relate this to no1 of the dictionary meaning above

4. At the end of the service, his sheep were putting money at his feet after his charade. so yes, he seem to have money to gain from all these trickery.

Edit:5. Another reason for his deceit is his use of "Dr", is he a doctor? where did he get his doctorate from? If you can not tell me, then it is safe to to conclude that he falls under no3 of the dictionary meaning of Fraud [/b]above.
.
My Conclusion;

He his a [b]Fraudster


So, Mr joagbaje--show me facts to disprove my assertions.
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 9:04pm On Nov 30, 2011
Joagbaje:
Okay o, na yab. Clap for yourself. But on what ground do you call these ministers fraudulent ? You sem to be a little reasonable than the rest. So   Let's start with fireman. No abuse pls lets deal on facts and the bible.
Thanks for the compliment, how ironic.

Though I take a little offence at the little before the "reasonable" in your statement even though you stated "no abuse". (lol)

However, I'll indulge you a little. (Without the  abuse).
Christianity EtcRe: Dr. Sign Fireman: Man Of God Or Man Of Money? (Video Documentary) by dare2think: 8:52pm On Nov 30, 2011
@olamufu & Pst Kun;

Pls understand me well.

dare2think:
The reason he keeps defending these fraudsters, whilst trying to appear objective, is only a testament of his character [/b]and [b]principles.
Let me make it clearer;

If you keep defending conservative policies and are sympathetic towards them, what does that make you?

>whispers<  (A conservative)


Like I said, his constant defence of these fraudsters is a testament of his Character [/i]and [i]principles.

@ Joagbaje

It was not a compliment---(Sorry)

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