₦airaland Forum

@ olamufu

I am only giving our resident "pastor", joagbaje,the benefit of doubt. I would like to understand his perspective of how God can be a game that should be played. (thinking about that statement is so disturbing. I fear for Nigeria)

@ muskeeto

Mr joagbaje is not dumb nor silly, I am so certain he knows the difference btw wrong and right.

The reason he keeps defending these fraudsters, whilst trying to appear objective, is only a testament of his character and principles.

You guys are only deceiving yourselves ( with your multitudes of similar IDs).

If the reporter edited the video, did he also edit fireman's mouth?

You give atheists reason to mock religion with your obvious deceit.

Is sign fireman his real name?

Where did he get his doctorate from?

What are the names of the companies he had at age 12?
Are they still in existence?

Fraudsters defending a fraudster.
(you are all making a mockery of christianity)

Mr joagbaje

Can you pls explain from the "perspective" you understood of how God is a game?


Fire girl's explanation is pathetic

@ earswide

Bro, am good. Still trying to understand these fraudsters in "man of god" clothing.

But what can we do, those smart men have to eat with the abundance of foolishness in Nigeria, who can blame them.

Safe.

Funny.


The PR machinery trying to do damage control. Dr fireman is the epitome of what is wrong with religion without reason.

Its natural to defend your pastor/ mentor,  Only wished you guys will defend Christ and his principles with the same zeal.

Principles  such as love, humility and compassion as described in the bible.

But then again, according to your master, "God is a Game"

Good for him.

Nice to see the other White lady give that young man a hug.

That's humanity right there.

Why wont White people descriminate against black folks when we ourselves descriminate against eact other.

Take a look at the tribal threads.

We can point the blame finger at the White people all you want but the tribalism going on amongst black people is even more pathetic and shameful.

Ghanaians vs Nigerians, igbo vs Yoruba , Hausa vs igbos, hutsi vs Tutsi  and so on.

Earswide,

Where have u been?

@ Poster,

for the sake of clarity pls how did you get this information? word of mouth or first-hand?

ogoamaka99:
Posterkun,
Oh! posterkun, what do you gain by lying against ministers of GOD ? If not Oyedepo, it is Pastor Chris. Now it is Bishop Okonkwo. Because you are possessed with lying spirit it is impossible to believe what you are saying. The integrity of Bishop Okonkwo is beyond doubt. To prove my point, if we probe further, posterkun we tell us that a member of TREM told him because posterkun did not attend the conference. So posterkun how do you obtain your information?

@ ogoamaka

For the sake of clarity, how do you know the integrity of Okonkwo is beyond doubt? Word of mouth or first hand?

Also, how do you know they are Men of God?

Did God confide in you?

How about electricity to actually watch the movies.


This should be way down on the To Do list of the president.

noabsibot:
Be carefull all of you speaking blasphemy against the man of God. Every tongue that rise against him in blasphemy shall be destroyed, every tongue that speak evil against him shall be condemed, he that course him, shall be course and bless is he that bless you. Thus says Lord

Did God tell you that this is his man?

Pls how did you come to the conclusion that he is a "Man of God">?


Just curious.

I know a little.


I used to work for one, he seems really nice and honest.


They give free food to anybody at their temple.

a/c no

pls.

Mr Joagbaje,

My phone is more relaible than your silly prophet. He comes up with ambiguous statements and predictable prophesies and you swallow up the garbage.

Pls get yourself acquainted with internernional news and history coupled weather forecasting so as to educate yourself.

The India-pakistan dispute has been going on for a while with skirmishes occuring at several periods, so it is nothing new.  (But new to people like you that believe in anything a man of Fraud says.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123180504307175401.html


I predict that there would be a bomb blast in afghanistan before the years runs out. (Geez, lets see if I am a prophet too)


Again, my phone is more reliable than your  prophet. (It does not deceive)

Joagbaje:
^^^
are you saying the man is not a prophet?

Ha Ha Ha,

Yes indeed, he is a prophet of God.



So is my Phone.

(Since it can also predict the weather)

Madam mabel,

It makes him a treasurer.

Pls stop condoning fraudulent characters , its not good.

Tell me pls, is God a game ?

My phone told me yesterday that it will rain today.  (Weather app)

Alas, I opened the window this morning and  its pouring.


I have a prophetic phone, God has been speaking to my phone.


"Phone of God"


Incredible. 

Joagbaje:
^^^
church is not about money , it's about transforming lives. The different denominations are based on different revelations of ministers. One have passion towards holiness, another passionated to get demons out of people's life, another one passionate to make the poor rich, another one passionate to make soul winners out of every christian , another has passion for prayers and intercession. While some others try to stay in the balance teaching the whole counsel of God as much as possible. Brethren naturally follow the ministers

Its about transforming the pastors' lives.

@epikaizo

Since we are discussing contextual meanings, is it ok If I put a real life scenario to you?


What would you do if a man of God told you that GOd had just instructed him to tell his congregation , of which you are a part of, to commit mass suicide?

Before you think "why ask me such a st.upid question" ,  Pls grace me with a reply

Thanks

@ epikaizo

Why are people always criticising people who criticise ?


, , ,.,,,,,, in the end  all parties are still criticising. So what makes one critique more or Less important than the other ?

Pst James,

I'm sorry but What I decide to make my personal business is my business. (why else are you minding my business then)

Someone "allegedly" claim to be the forth trinity, am I to just digest that fallacy just because he is a man of God?

What the h.ell does that mean anyway? "man of God"

Did Jesus not criticise the Pharisees for their hypocritical ways?

Are we to just digest any ridiculous claims made by men and not use our heads to discern the authenticity of such claims.

The "decay" you speak of is more perpetrated by people who revel in titular positions and those who ignore their fallacy.

My deference is to GOd only and not man.

(by the way, are you not doing the same you accuse me of? Criticising my position on the matter.)

^^^^^

Agreed.

Op, pls quote the link.

Nice one alethea,

Well, I am the fifth member of the trinity,

Where is the falsehood in that?


(If being an extra member of the "Trinity", a three member state, is not falsehood, I really wonder what is)

olamufu:
NB: I was a member of Christ Embassy till i found Christ!

Classic!!!!!

denzel2009:
Your sobolation in respect of supposedly crooked pastors is too much, scouring forums and facebook pages for comments. . . likewise during the case of Odulele.Get busy haba!

And your own "sobolation" of following "thamesmead" around to know what she is doing is little?

Are you less busy?

"By their fruits, "

What is the danger in naming charlatans ?

Who appointed them "men of God"?   So with the thousands of churches crawling at every corner in our corrupt country God has appointed all of them yet the society's disparity between quality of life is ever widening.

They are not men of God. They are opportunistic men that take advantage of desperate people? But are the people complaining? Maybe, maybe not . How will they complain? After being  fed junk and having submitted their brains to men.

You conveniently missed the part where the reporter said he was beaten but hey he is an "agent of Satan".

"They might mis-interprete the acts of the apostles, but we can't blame them". Are you listening to yourself?
And yes. You can say a man is false if he displays false attributes. Stop pretending as if falsehood don't exist.

Scripture this, scripture that. Stop defending fraudsters and cons, it is dragging our nation backwards.

We should not believe the report because they might have an agenda?

But we should believe miracles we see on Tv performed by Chris or Joshua because they have no agendas?

Joagbaje,

The reporter was biased?

Did they put machine in the pastor's mouth for him to say those things?

Was money put at Jesus' feet when he performed miracles?

You,my friend, display some really scary characteristics and I can only hope you are joking.


"God is a game"

Dekung,

Pls post more in the religious section,


We have a lot in common.

Ask 4 god,


My ignorant friend, stfu.

You conveniently ignored the parts where I condemned the boko- haramist, am not surprised because you learnt your deceitful way from your fraudsters or man of God.

Like I said, your silly threats only affects your myopic mind. Your man of God is nothing but a mere man that has robbed your mind of any sort of critical thinking.

Bunch of mentally lazy folks always waiting for God to come and do everything for them.

By the way, with people like you has NIgeria moved forward?

I thought your Men of GOd/fraudsters usually speaks with God? Why did God not give him foresight about the impending crisis in other to avert it?

"Man of God"

@judiskosis

Where you there when he was called?

I mean your man-god, oyedepo.

Again, this is about boko haram's menace and not oyedepo's divinity.

He was born like everyone here and will die like everyone. Stop worshipping man.

@helpee, good points

I agree with you. It just seems silly when his apologist started exalting him like some God.

However, sympathies to the victims, at the end of the day they are the ones that matter and not oyedepo or boko haram.


Thanks for the insight.