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Barr rich:
I don't understand the arguments contained in the various posts with the respect to this call to prayer by Davidylan, Ogajim, Aletheia and Dare2think. I believe there is no basis for these arguments given the intent of the post. It is just a simple call to prayer sent out to christians of this platform.

If you dont think it is necessary to pray about issues, you can hold your own beliefs and don't bring argument to derail the intent of a simple post. Thanks.

The day you own your own forum and posses the exclusive right to control those who contribute to a topic then the above would make more sense.

Joagbaje:
1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
3. The group is preoccupied with making money.
4. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
6. The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is
considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
8. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
9.the group's leader is not accountable to any authorities T (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
12. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members

How does Jesus fit into the Bolded?

@Ms Azibulia

Can you please highlight the fault and contradiction in the definition?

@ Deep sight,

I think its Joagbaje's  mention of 'economically' is what stirred up some of the criticism. However, to be fair he did mention ', and otherwise'.

@Joagbaje

Joagbaje:
Blackberry user, maybe you should read my post again. Explained owning the world there. Except religious bunch try to read different meaning into it.

What do you mean by blackberry user?

Is that meant to imply anything?

7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).

Very common within the Nigerian Christendom.

Joagbaje:
REACHING PEOPLE BY MEETING THEIR NEEDS FIRST (part 2)

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Mr Joagbaje,

Firstly, great incentive giving our improverished Police some equipments that would be beneficial to them. You are actually doing what the state is meant to be doing, I commend you for that even though I dis-agree with your 'man-worship' ideology.

However, I still find it irresponsible to encourage these innocent men to use their bibles as weapons in the midst of chaos. You gave a story about your Dad, was the miracle documented? where you present?

Would you go to a gun fight with a bible?

One more thing, what about the police men that are muslims? is there any bible protection for them also? or do they have to convert to Christianity or conform to the christian ideals to be protected?

If so, is that fair.

Anyway, as I said earlier good efforts.

(I bet you and the cheif officer are good friends, what a lovely alliance).

One more thing, nice jacket , reminds me of Benny hinn's magic jacket.

Can someone explain to me how one 'owns' the world?

newmi:
if this is true and l  don't have any difficulty believing it then there should truth in the postulation that l as a child of the one who owns the whole world in like manner as His heir owns the whole world or is this to difficult to comprehend.

Yes Mr Newmi, it is difficult to comprehend.

So, please explain;

What is it that you own?

the world in general?

or its content?

You call the text of the bible trash!

I thought you always wanted a debate base on the 'scriptures'?

Here you are ridiculing it,

If alethea's post is thrash, what do you call your silly assertions that you own the world?

Do you own china?

Funny guy.

Private jets.
Luxurious lifestyle.
Unlimited deference from followers.
Gifts from apologists.
Political allies.
Demi-god like image.

Are you kidding me?
What shall it profit a pastor?

Everything.


If Jesus decides to come now they'll kill him for a second time.

^^^^^

Why don't you go to north Korea and claim a piece of land there since the world is yours.

Also find your way to Cambodia or vietnam and claim a piece there too.

Continue to live in your delusions.

caropy:
@Muskeeto, please be mindful of the way you call men of God names, judge no one please and talk no ash words to men of God, God who has call them and infact the call is upon everyone of us (cos we have been mandated to preach the gospel to every creature, so we are also called), God will be the judge so leave that for God. in your privacy sincerely ask God for forgivess, most people come here to call these pastors names and God allow devourer in their lives, and soon they forget their sins and run to the same pastor for prayers, the solution wont be the prayers but to confess and repent.

my brother muskeeto, repent and others calling the men of God names, please God is not foolish. be careful and be mindful. and to warn again to all nairalanders, i just cant imagine the way you guys pounce on pastors and churches when it comes to the mention of pastor of church?

be care you all, God is watching and devil too is looking at those who will become prey.

Please shut it.

Your Men Of God are Frauds.

A country of full of religiousness yet amongst the most corrupt nations.

Who called these Men?  Did anyone apart from them witness their calling? where you present when God called to them?

Everyone claims they are called, and you just believe based on that and their staged theatrics (I refuse to call the miracles).


They are mere mortals that will die at some point, just like any other person.

^^^^^

Dude, you ain't seen nothing yet!!!!

Heard of Dr fireman?

Then you'll realise that there is no hope for our religious population.

People who flood these churches deserve to be deceived.

Can someone please explain to me how God-the omnipotent- benefits from tithes.

^^^^^^^

SARCASM.

DR FIRE FLY IS A FRAUDSTER


WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF HIS COMPANIES?

WHERE DID HE GET HIS DOCTORATE FROM?

Joagbaje:
So what's the meaning of the non tithers board.

Judging from what you have seen, what do you think it means?

Dissidents trying to dissuade from the Topic.

Apologies to the Moderators for the thread's derailment.

Lol.

Thank you.

You ignore the fact that your friend started the ridicule.

Again, it still does not change the fact in my statements.

Keep looking out for my typo errors, I have been told  too many times to be more patient when typing.


I guess Mr Inedi and I needs to visit the Education thread more frequently now.

One more thing Mrs Mabel,

mabell:
As you correct him, let me take the pleasure of in [/b]correcting you also

mabell:
You are the one on my friend's tale [b]tail.

I guess we all need that visit to the Education thread.

Lol.

Thanks Mrs mabel,

If only you could correct you friend as well.


However, it still does not reduce the facts in my statements.


One more thing Mrs Mabel, please do not forget about the little research you said you were going to undertake  in a thread a while ago. You said you were gonna get back but alas, you went all Houdini on the thread.

I'm still waiting.

Lol,

Dude, I am not bitter, My Chelsea team just won and I'm having an epiphany.

I am only stating facts.

What are the chances that Mr inedi or any ( edit) of his children will have a better chance of a quality education than Chris' children ?

Zilch.

Mr inedi,

My little advice;

Why don't you spend your tithe monies improving your education rather than enriching Chris and his family.

Chris' children will go to a better school and have more prospect, it only makes sense to look after yourself.

inedi:
I said it ID deferent different, language the same. Thank you

Feed us more with your illiteracy.

Shameless bunch.

@Fuzzywan

HA HA HA HA HA

You guys are getting desperate. Very silly set of homo-sapiens.

Let me guess,

You are going to come back and tell us how wonderful the service was and how the Fraudster is genuine.

Got news for you;

HE IS A FRAUDSTER AND NOTHING YOU SAY CAN CHANGE THAT FACT.

Pls, when you get there, could you ask him to give you the names of the companies he owned since age 12.

Also, ask him where he got his doctorate from and which institution gave it to him.

Make sure when you come back to tell us how wonderful he is you should also bring answers to my questions.

Jokers.

Keep on exposing your idiocy for all to see.

Funny folks.

inedi:
Why is uncle kule oshobi reacting with his other ID, comeon you would have just say said this with your real ID

Illiterate junk.

'Dr' Fireman is a FRAUDSTER

Where did he get his doctorate from?

Doctor in what? Fraud?

What are the names of the companies he had since age 12?

I'm not sure if being voted for or not add value to anybody's life.

It's just a meaningless virtual poll (sorry mods),and nothing really substantial.

Only vain and hopeless individuals would revel in its insignificance.

Supernatural fraudsters also bring supernatural criticism.

newmi:
The aganda is not the wrong speaking rather it is a mastered minded strategy to totally discridit the church and christiany on the long run and most of these critics don't even know that they are being used by satan to carry out his agenda. Sadly, this is where most European nations and America have found themselves

Really?

Where have most European national and America found themselves?

Between 'most' European nations/America and Africa where does Satan seem to be carrying out  his agenda the most?

The bottom 100 most corrupt countries consist of 35 African countries and 5 European countries including Russia which is considered part European- part Asia.

With our Lovely Nigeria Gracing no 143.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/dec/01/corruption-index-2011-transparency-international


So Mr Newmi,

Where does Satan seem to be carrying out his agenda the most?

@ Mr Joagbaje


You misconstrue my reply to you. You quoted that false accusers will arise as a sign of the End-times.


But you rarely quote that false prophets will also arise.

It is as though that bible passage is missing from your personal bible.

This country is splitting right under the nose of Mr president.





He needs to be more assertive.

He makes you miss OBJ.

^^^^

My thoughts exactly. She did not need to involve her husband.


Ujujoan,

I admire your optimistic approach, however, how can you be so certain if the situation has not occurred?

Most people that might have experienced this issue-husband slamming SIL-were probably more optimistic than you are yet greatly disappointed.

Nothing is assured in the world, not even a sister's loyalty.

Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

Diderot