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adamsmith914:Stop making this about IPOB, Their region has a flourishing air traffic and a new modern international Airport Also one of their own has the biggest airline in West /central Africa. |
Sammy07:I think Anambra comes after Lagos and Abuja. Especially when one thinks of the indigenes in their arsenal which can be mobilized and deployed |
afube:I feel same way too. Rivers State oil and gas sector gives her the egde over Anambra aside that nothing else. My family members in faraway Cameroon depend on Onitsha and Nnewi for their GOODS |
SaintBishop:You sound so pained Mister. The truth is that, no neutral observer will rank the territory of ibos as poorest area in Nigeria. You must have a very awkward definition of poverty. If ibo land is poorest part of Nigeria then you have no idea of what to poverty is |
Biafrarep:I have been to Igbo land for occasions especially in Imo, Abia and anambra. I was marveled with the quality of life I witnessed especially among villagers. Igbo land might not have strategic infrastructure due to marginalization but region is not poor. That's of the region with the highest wealth spread in Africa. Mehn i saw Multi storey buildings deep in rural areas. Ibos are an enigma |
SaintBishop:I have to disagree with you on this one. I'm not even from there but Iboland and people poverty shouldn't be on same sentence. The international diaspora remittance of the region alone is massive. |
[/b] Igboid: Yakurr people are maternally Igbo related. [b] An Igbo princess from Abriba Abia State gave birth to Ibe, through a Yakurr man. Ibe established a dynasty in Yakurr. It's very easy to appreciate why Yakurr looks phenotypically like Igbos and dress like Igbos too. We have blood relationship. I would like to see that maintained in form of loose Confederation with Yakurr people in Biafra, of they are open to it. Additionally, Igbophobia didn't permeate Northern Cross River, the people are reasonable and can be worked with. If at all we should consider a multi ethnic Biafra, we should consider those minorities in Cross River first and foremost, they are blood. cc: Daveconsult007I have heard this before from dad while growing up in Cameroon. We had an Igbo businessman neighbor, my dad was so friendly with him and one day he told us of the story. Years later, my senior brother followed the man's elder brother to Aba to learn business after 7 years my brother was settled, he's now a major player in Texile trade in Douala. Many people from my community alongside my brother has benefitted from Ibo trading business after apprenticeship and running businesses of their own. I admire igbo people and we have a lot to benefit from each other , having maternal roots in Anglophone Cameroon, it opened up my eyes to wider reasons why my peoples both paternal and maternal needs to keep it smooth with ibo folks. |
Owologbo:What's their experience? Where do people actually have nice experience in this world? Even within SS states people still talk about discrimination. I have people in Delta, Rivers.... It's same story. Bro biafra is not coming today or Tomorrow. The future of Igbo and their neighbors will not be discussed on nairaland by some faceless people.... I want you to understand very well. I'm not a fan of IPOB and Kanu but the guy and his group are doing something. When the times, each and every will come to the negotiation tables with their demands. Tony Nnadi's group of lower Niger congress has been making consultation all over SE and SS regarding self determination but we choose to sit Idle and masturbate over ipob. I'm glad that you like ibos compare to other , because I like them too. Many of them (ibos) are our wives, sister in laws, brother in law, and moms.... Enough of this ipob and ibo obsession. It makes SS look like a people with no plan for themselves Its time we start thinking about our region, |
Owologbo:I'm not concerned about things that happen online especially on a platform like nairaland which is a faceless online forum, How are we sure that people here are what they truly claim to be? Bro I leave in the real world, We know the people who conquered other people's land and built their kingdom and empire in the past. Today we still know people who are playing same cards. Villages in middle belt are being renamed and emirates are created where non Muslims once dwelt. We know those that are demanding for lands without wanting to pay for it and those people are moving around with AK-47 disloding indigenous people from their ancestral lands. I'm from a very small ethnic group, which share a close long boundary with Igbo people. Check the census of Nigeria in 1921 and see the population of Igbo people. If they wanted to conquer any part of SS, it would be a walk in the park for them because they have the number. Igbo clans in rivers state alone could have easily pushed for access to the ocean via Ogoni land and they would have gotten it. Growing up in Cameroon, I got chance to learn much about the Ibo, despite their huge investment in Cameroon yet they still remember their homes. SS groups should stop worrying about Ibo and think and plan about their own future and their people. Antagonizing Ibos won't change anything about their biafra desire or Nigeria's eventual break up |
Owologbo:An ethnic group Lording over others has nothing to do with their size. Check the history of Nigeria's ethnicities and see their way of life. Fulani built a caliphate in hausa land, Yoruba had oyo empire and Edo brags about its rich benin empire...... But where is that of Igbo people? . My only challenge with Igbo is their economic and commercial excesses. If ibo wanted Land in SS, they would have done long before the White man came. I even found that Ibo were actually the victims of land Incursion by igala and benin kingdoms especially on their borderline villages |
OfoIgbo:It gladdens my heart for such to happen. The indigenes of Bakassi Peninsula are also making moving for biafra too. They've their own biafra group and they're very armed. They've engaged Paul Biya's Occupational Forces in the land. Under international law biafra has a legitimate case,due to the fact that they did not recognize any treaty or deal with Nigeria and Cameroon. That Peninsula was administered by Eastern Nigeria till 1967. |
ggood:There's a few Igbo villages near the boundaries with abia along Imo River They're called Ndoki people. They're in Ukanafun Local Government Area specifically in a village called Oha Obu). They used to be in Aba division in the '60s with larger Ndoki tribe but today state created has split them into Rivers Abia and Akwa-Ibom They were ceded to then South Eastern state after boundary readjustment of the military regime in 1976. Read up Nasir boundary tribune. I know this the man marrying my sister hails from there, I never believed it until someone from their told me |
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ivandragon:Brother I don't think there will ever be a Niger delta map. This is me being real, There's no movement within the SS. I have seen people talk about Edo Nation but not about a SS republic |
Owologbo:In a way he's right. What connects a yako or efik and Annang man in Cross River and Akwa Ibom to an itsekiri, ijaw or Ogoni.....have you ever thought of the geographical set up? Let's not talk about economy, Secondly, there's no biafra yet. The idea of agreement is like counting your chicken before they're hatched |
jerseyboy:And what is happening today with southern Cameroon today ? Bro please free that story,you have no idea about it. It's a very sad one. My mum is Bamileke, and what happened in 1961 is a British scheme. When Southern Cameroon voted to leave eastern govt in 1961 did anyone harass the people? But look at the menace Paul Biya has brought on the people. Despite all this yet ibo people still contributed to growth of Amba land until the recent crises. My dad is cross river, I grew up Cameroon. It's not what it seems. Ibo have their own issues but they are not the problem to anyone not Ambazonia. That's why Amba are going in alliance with them. A lot has really changed |
helinues:You're mistaken Geopolitical zone for ethnic boundaries which is not reasonable. |
gidgiddy:We would form our country if we fail to reach agreement with ibos. That's the gospel |
helinues:You're a funny man. |
OfoIgbo:Recovering Bakassi Peninsula will be a delight for us, I have strong optimism with Ipob alliance with Ambazonia, Such relationships can open doors for Diplomatic maneuvers and compromise. I'm from Cross River and strongly believe we can get Bakassi back easier with help of Ibos, In case of there's a military assault by French or Ambazonia.... Then we can stand a chance. |
everydayperson:Even I'm not Igbo but to them, restoration of biafra is the ultimate solution for countering terrorism. How can you counter terrorism when you don't have control of the security architecture of your land? Haven't you seen herders kill allover Nigeria with no arrest and persecution of the perpetrators. When easterners rose ESN, we saw how the military and police were reacting. Atimes let's allow Ibos or biafrans do whaterver they wish, it's their resources, |
PHijo:One problem with most nigerians is ethnic bigotry... There's nothing wrong with ijaws identifying with Nmadi Zik. Many Igbo folks, even in diaspora identified with Goodluck Jonathan and adopted him as their son. I thought he was initially Ibo. Bro wake up, the world has gone beyond tribal and ethnic sentiment. Success has many friends..... Failure is an Orphan. When you are successful, everyone will be associated with you. Keep your Asaba and onitsha history. I have mine to study |
nsiba:Yes. |
blues234:That's comical. Anytime that gives them orgasmic explosion is welcomed... Ibos are great, travel around africa and see the respect they command among Africans and non Africans like Lebanese Indians and Chinese whom they've been competing for commercial and economic space. Ijaws claiming successful ibo men is a boast to their CV |
EdoDefence:You made salient points. But reality in Africa is different from other continent, especially regarding issues of self determination . African countries both existing and incoming are and will becreated by Euro-imperialist structures, like International law and UN Many of this structure do not recognize ethnic differences or ethnic lines. Its solely on economic and political interest. The 1884-85 Berlin conference ended the recognition of ethnic lines. International law has no place for Igbo land, ijaw land, ibibio, efik, Edo and yako lands... Rather the usage of colonies, protectorate are being used... So far international law is concerned. All the whole noise in might be insignificant. Nigeria is likely to split in two ways, 1)Southern vs northern protectorate lines merged in 1914, 2) the 3 regional blocs at independence, Because the Brits left Nigeria with independent constituted regions. These are structures of those we're begging referendum from. No one gives a damn about your ethnic group, Nigeria political lines known as states and geopolitical zones. When you approach international community , you must be ready to play along international laws standards. That's one of the main reasons Efik folks lost Bakassi, they played ethnic card rather international law card which Cameroon played. The concept of Monaco might not be feasible here. It can only happen if Only an African country can grants special autonomy status to a particular region within its borders. But I want to live in the real world where independent movement are brutish and expensiv not imaginery sweet utopia many Nigerians think. Are you aware that smaller Tribes where abandoned back in Arab Sudan when a UN led Referendum was held for South Sudan, This Tribes had nothing in common with the Arabs, but rather they were too silent when South Sudan Agitation was going on... And bastard UN decided they should be stay back in Sudan citing that were happy with the status quo. I can't imagine my people in same scenario . Post-Colonial Independence movement in Africa is not an easy task, that's why only a few have succeeded. My brother married from Bakassi, I have seen first hand the ruins of being from smaller ethnic group, in regards to self determination, the Bakassi experience is horrifying..... No one cares unless you are blowing your trumpet loud and smaller groups can't be that loud. That's how colonial structure has destroyed Africa. You mentioned about working together with smaller Tribes, that's beautiful but where are this smaller Tribes? One of the greatest tragedy of SS is no ideological bond, aside from oil nothing brings the group together. Check any meetings held by the leaders of the region... Oil is at its center. Too bad not all of us are oil producers. Cross River has no drop of oil. You hardly see economic summit, trade talks among the people and states. In diaspora, there's no workable framework among the people But If it starts today, that would be great. |
EdoDefence:Yako, from ugep in Cross River ..... Mom is Cameroonian |
EdoDefence:I'm not pro biafra bro, I have never campaigned for biafra or preached to anyone .... I'm only being a realistic, who sees the doom encircling Nigeria and wants to be safe from the implosion I don't dwell on emotions, With the way things are going in Nigeria.. Calls for reflecting thoughts. What if herdsmen, bandits, Boko Haramatic and Iswap pushes Nigeria to Civil unrest? Have you ever thought about that? My family fled Cameroon when crises started between ambazonia and Cameroon? What will my small ethnic group of over 500k people do? How do we go about it? How do you safe guard ourselves? What about economic survival? What happened to smaller ethnic groups in Cameroon is still refresh on my mind.... And it's not funny at all.. How I wish that there's an Igboho, or Kanu figure in SS. Nobody will be i looking Biafra's ship. I will be tempted to jump on the ship to save my self. Forget that referendum talk. Its whitewash. Nobody is giving anyone referendum. |
blues234:Wetin you Wan make I do na? Atimes it's good you allow people to wallow on their delusional thoughts. There's nothing I can say that would change him and he personally knows imo and abia hardcore igbo enclaves... Anyone moving into any igbo areas is asking for war ..... And same is applicable to Igbo people regarding SS groups(aside the igboids) |
EdoDefence:Nobody is annexing anyone. This narrative makes many youths in South South frightened, docile and duck Some ethnic groups in SS are big enough to make a country but Narrative like this kills the zeal and morale the youths. Looking at igbo history, they're don't have the capacity to annex anyone, they had no empires, so they don't have that structure and ideology..... It's not about size and number, I'm glad that you mentioned 12 bc, if Igbos didn't conquer their next door neighbors in the past... Is it in 2021 century they will try such rubbish? That would be their waterloo |
PHijo:Wow.... This is the first thing I'm hearing this. I definitely dig deeper into the story when I'm free. Secondly. Please next time, be more courteous about the language you use. We can make our points without using brute, abusive and derogatory words..... Humor rhetorics is okay though |
Christistruth00:Do you really consider Militants as agitating for Self determination for the entire SS region? |
goatgoat093:AdakaBoro8 and Phijo this comment is quite revealing. I remember warri and PH crises a tussle over. I wish this whole land disputes would be a thing the past We don't need ethnic tensions due to land tussle |
