₦airaland Forum

AdakaBoro8:
if u are an akwa ibom why did u jump into conlusion that there is no Ijaw clan in abia?

u said u are an akwa ibom, but u jump into matter u know nothing about..

On a second thought..... I'm sorry for jumping into conclusions.

Enlighten me, who are the ijaws of abia?

Where are they located?
. It's better to learn than argue

PHijo:
What truth? What do you know about Ijaw people their history and geographical spread?
Much of Imo and Abia was our territory. There are several places in those area the people still connect with their Ijaw roots.

Wow.. This is getting really serious.
I never knew.

What's the name of these places in abia and imo?

The areas in connect with their ijaw roots?

I really wish to learn

Beautiful

AdakaBoro8:
now u proven to me that u are an igbo..

I'm now ibo because I told you the truth?
Truth is bitter Mr man

Dude wake up from your slumber... This is a faceless forum, it's of no importance to form false identy.

BTW ibo are great people though, just like every other ethnicities in Nigeria.

Atimes you have to look beyond primordial thoughts and move on

AdakaBoro8:
now u proven to me that u are an igbo disguising as akwa ibom since.. igbos are shamed to to be identify with their tribe.. hahaha igbo don cast. many igbos don deny been igbo...

igbos should better tender apologies to all tribes they have sin against or more igbos deny igbo..

Continue your March to abia.... Don't forget to try out cross river in your struggle for land.

They're the only people you've not tested

blues234:
It's there secret ambition to claim the whole of Igboland to themselves. They hate Igbos, but are claiming a clan of pure Igbo stock.

That's a great height of comedy.

Dude was sounding like a Clown.

SmartPolician:
If the north had the Niger Delta oil, believe me, they wouldn't be getting 13% from the so-called oil derivation sharing.

When the north used cotton to fund Nigeria's economy, the region enjoyed about 50% of what it contributed. Now, you answer, who is fooling (serving) who?

There was never a time North Nigeria funded Nigerian economy.

According to Lugard, the sole aim of 1914 amalgamation was that Southern protectorate could the budget deficit of the northern counterpart.

AdakaBoro8:
how? why do u say i am funny?

You said Ijaws of Abia..... That got me laughing.

Anyway, it's funny how everybody accuses ibo people of domination but meanwhile in the reality something different is happening.

Good luck with your Ijaws of abia state. Lol.

I will dash you iceblock to nurse the aches and bruises you will incur after when you guys will be routed out by angry Ibo people.

It beginning to seem like ijaw is synonymous with Land dispute and land grabbing.

I remember you guys were dragging coastline of Akwa Ibom,

Let me not talk about warri, Portharcourth, egelegele(sorry for my selling) in Edo,
In ondo and I think Lagos.

Only cross river escaped the land struggle.
Once again good luck to you going to Abia

SmartPolician:
I think there are two ongoing gas plant projects in Imo State at the moment

That's beautiful..

What's the name of the projects?

AdakaBoro8:
will you stop lying...
tribes in SE...
1)igbo.
2)ebonyi tribes.
3)ibibio.
4)igala.
5)mbaise.
6)onitsha.
+[/b]7)Ijaw of abia state*[b].

which means igbo population there is 65%

so what are u talking about?

You're funny.

That's all I have to say.

jerseyboy:
1. We South South are thinking of our selves but Igbo territorial ambitions are a ditraction, The more we ignored it the more they thought it real. I was pained the first time I had to write anything that looked anti Igbo but started recogbising the confusion our silence was creating. Biafra map to Southern minorities first appear as a joke, then an insult, then panic and finally anger.

2. You are right that nothing will happen to anyone residence or business status post Nigeria. Your mistake is assuming that everyone is as rational and intelligent as you are to figure that out. People are driven by emotions rather than reason.

3. The issue of South Cameroon is to belabor the point of where the fear of Igbos landed them. Of course South Cameroon made a huge mistake and I have been part of an advocacy group shining international light to her plight. The point is to make our Igbo breadthens realize that our fears are so real they can drive of to stupid actions. Also the imperialist shortchanged south Cameroon in the plebiscite by refusing to give them and option for outright independence.

4. Reference to the Mid-West being the best run region was an hyperbole. No need to nitpick. Mid-West was run well enough. No reports of election rigging or marginalization. Good enough by African standards.

I'm more concerned about what's going on the ground than what someone in UK or US drew on a map.

Many Igbo nationalist I have come across are interested in independent igbo nation... Only Igbos alone no one else.
These are businessmen, academics and professionals.

One evencurged me to look at things on ground than media rants .

Have you noticed that their biafra rally only happens in Igbo areas?

Has any ipob / Massob ever held rally in your community? Or city.

Their marches are mostly in igbo areas like asaba, igbo towns in rivers state, south east.

None has happened in Yenegoa, Uyo, Eket, Warri. Benin, Sapele, Ugheli, ikot Ekpene, Ogoja.....

Even at look at their do called ESN chasing cows then, it was mostly in igbo areas.


My fear is that South South is sitting duck and docile.... Always blaming Igbos.

There's no unified front,
No union of purpose..... Only a few interested while others are just looking.


SS groups are people who will only join the winning team... Whoever it's.


That's my opinion

Beautiful..... AKS on the rise

jerseyboy:
Igbo ambition in the Niger Delta is becoming a concern as surely Nigeria is breaking-up. Igbo wont let go these insane hallucinations for people's land who are beginning to have more and more HATRED of Igbos for this delusion on the map of that puts WARRI on the map of Biafra. When on a Mid-West Movement call early May the talk was dominated by raising money to buy weapons to repel an expected Biafra invasion I noticed it was led by 2 Anioma Bendelites.

When a handful of Ilorin clerics declared themselves Yoruba Fulanis of Northern Nigeria, Yoruba Nation agitators took Kwara out of consideration and set stiff terms as to condition under which they will be allowed into the new nation despite 95% of Kwara Yorubas wanting to be in Oduduwa. Now that's a people with pride. Not so for Igbos.

A majority Yoruba House of Assembly in the first republic voted to allow the Mid-West referendum. Only Yorubas allowed the new region promised minorities in their own region. The agitation for COR Region was just as loud as the Mid-West but an Igbo dominated regional assembly would not even allow a bill to get to the floor. Yorubas have class and honor. Igbos are becoming really scary people.

By the way Anioma recorded the highest percentage in the 1963 Mid-West Referendum with 93% for YES. The never discussed joining the East. Even when Ojukwu capture the Mid-West, he did not annex Anioma into Biafra. When on September 20, 1967 Ojukwu declared The Republic Of Benin, he did not cut Anioma out. Ojukwu obviously is wiser than many Igbo nairalanders.

My grand uncle served in Eastern Civil service.

The Anioma agitated to included in a single province and zoned back to East, that was their initial opinion before Midwest came into play.


Without the Zik NCNC east, there would be no Midwest.

Creation of region was federal politics... Maybe if regionalism lasted for longer, COR would have been created..
But gowon created states though.. I don't see reason why we keep talking about affairs of Eastern region meanwhile our states 30-50 years after state creation has not really been able to solve those questions.

Questions of underdevelopment, poverty and unrepresentation and marginalization.. Even at state levels.

Your werent part of the eastern region, I urge you to not delve into.

As I can't delve into Ahmadu bello' Northern region

jerseyboy:
The Old Mid-West Region is about to move for a second Mid-West Referendum that will lead to the creation of Bendel Republic. The East Niger Deltans are planning the Old Promised COR Region that Eastern Nigeria refused to create to form COR Republic.

The Old Mid-West was the best run region in Nigeria because there was no majority tribe that could dominate. Merit was the operative word. Osadebe an Asaba man became Premier because he towered above the rest of his cotemporaries. The Bendel Republic Movement have stated that they are opened to the Eastern Niger Delta minorities but they must be contiguous and must vote by more than 60% in a referendum of their nationality to join.

Funny, it was Biafra map scare that got everyone in the South South jumping. The idea had been to allow the Yorubas to lead to dissolve Nigeria and use the escape latch for all to exit Nigeria as only the Yorubas have the capacity to end Nigeria. The Biafran thing is a joke. Igbos are too invested in One Nigeria to see straight. Igbo elites have no confidence in Biafra. Unlike Nnamdi Kanu and nairaland Igbos, the elite know not one hamlet in the South South will go with the igbos. South Cameroon bolted Nigeria in 1961 just to escape Igbos. In the end, Igbos will be forced to form a South East only Igbo Nation and it will be spectacularly successful just like every other new nations out of former Nigeria will be successful.

There many misconception here.

1)Mid west was not the best ran region.
That should be between the east and west.

2)Its ridiculous to say ibos aren't serious because of investment in Nigeria.
If Nigeria breaks today, many Igbo folks will remain in pasts of Nigeria while others will return home.... That's how I see it.

Igbos are heavily invested in many African countries too, I grew up Cameroon and I know what I'm talking about.
Many Nigerians, yoruba and hausa have investments in other African countries..... In a possible break up Nigeria an ibo man in kano will be like an Ibo in Ghana, South Africa and benin republic.

I don't think that argument is serious enough.

You're right about yoruba having the capacity to break up Nigeria..... This simply because it's going to be a Yoruba+Igbo vs Fulani.... If it's Igbo +fulani vs yoruba... Just forget about it.



4)I think you shouldn't have dabbled into the southern Cameroon issue,because you know Lil about it.

I grew up around them, and I understand the fully story. Until the recent violence in their region, many Igbo folks lived and cohabited with them... Few weeks ago, their revolution movement reached to biafra groups.

These are people who understands the importance of Rebuilding from past mistakes.
Today they're both in alliance,. But many SS are still to get over old issues and land tussles.

5)it's none of our business who igbo people forms a nation with.


Can't we SS groups think about ourselves and plans rather talk about Igbo and Biafra all the time time.

AdakaBoro8:
(us) i mean we the Ijaws..

no tribe can ever decide for Ijaw talkless of those animal igbos. those subhumans..

planB... we Ijaws have planA planB and even planC...

our planA is NDR.. planB is Ijaw republic..
planC we will not agitate until we see gov destroyed ipob.

Lol
That's a nice plan.

Anyway I remember telling you that every group in SS will evaluate their options and make decisions based on their interests.


This is why I'm comfortable with the whole People claiming to speak for SS or Niger delta because the agenda and interest are not the same.

That's the major reason nobody has kicked of self determination movements in the SS region.

AdakaBoro8:
Daveconsult007 if u said you are from ibibio then its all right.
but you see these yam people ehn, there problems big pass us.

whenever they bend they that their yam heads, they will be acting like animals..

if we narrate all their attrocities against us ehn even devil will be afraid to live with them.

I'm not ibibio dude.
Ibibio aren't the only ethnic group in awka Ibom and cross river

jerseyboy:
The Old Mid-West Region is about to move for a second Mid-West Referendum that will lead to the creation of Bendel Republic. The East Niger Deltans are planning the Old Promised COR Region that Eastern Nigeria refused to create to form COR Republic.

The Old Mid-West was the best run region in Nigeria because there was no majority tribe that could dominate. Merit was the operative word. Osadebe an Asaba man became Premier because he towered above the rest of his cotemporaries. The Bendel Republic Movement have stated that they are opened to the Eastern Niger Delta minorities but they must be contiguous and must vote by more than 60% in a referendum of their nationality to join.

Funny, it was Biafra map scare that got everyone in the South South jumping. The idea had been to allow the Yorubas to lead to dissolve Nigeria and use the escape latch for all to exit Nigeria as only the Yorubas have the capacity to end Nigeria. The Biafran thing is a joke. Igbos are too invested in One Nigeria to see straight. Igbo elites have no confidence in Biafra. Unlike Nnamdi Kanu and nairaland Igbos, the elite know not one hamlet in the South South will go with the igbos. South Cameroon bolted Nigeria in 1961 just to escape Igbos. In the end, Igbos will be forced to form a South East only Igbo Nation and it will be spectacularly successful just like every other new nations out of former Nigeria will be successful.

Its good to see the good people of Midwest region kickoff their Agitation for independence.

Secondly I have not heard from anyone in Cross River and Akwa Ibom talking about COR republic movement..... Everyone is still sleeping (that's my anger) when some people are making contacts with Biafran Agitators(you won't blame them for that)

AdakaBoro8:
then why the ipob provoking us? why did ipob add us to biafra without consulting us? see igbos are proving to be our enemies.. they hate us

Bro firstly... who is "us"
You kept on mentioning us.... I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Igbos are not provoking me at least not in my state.

Secondly Ipob is not an Igbo organization.
I know many Igbo supports biafra that don't believe in Ipob's method or ideology.

Have you ever seen any ipob rally in Cross River and Akwa Ibom? Hell no!
Though many people in those state have biafra sympathizers but Ipob can't stare up problem.


I think ipob is still restricted to Igbo areas like rivers state upland, south east and Asaba - Agbor axis.

Let's stop hanging on these baseless fears.

Every ethnic group in SS needs to start working on on their "Plan B" like that pastor said.


I'm tired of discussing Igbos while we end up with no plans of our own

EdoDefence:
No problem if you're actually from Ibibio, you and your people can join Biafra but don't try dragging the rest of us along.

I have said it before and will say it again, Niger Delta/South South might produce over 3 different nations

Nobody is dragging anybody to join anyone.

Every ethnic group in SS will evaluate their options and align with the best options.


If you're truly from Edo, then it's pertinent you stop deceiving groups in SS.
Most Edo folks I have come across here in abroad are rooting for Oduduwa.

It would be a good idea for SS to form their own country but sadly as reality on ground proves otherwise.


Let me tell you this now for free.


Only 2 independence movements are going on Nigeria..... I don't know where the 3 SS states will come out from.

Unless you are championing a movement that is unknown.

Many SS Agitators are still talking resource control and Restructuring... Nobody is taking the bull by its horn.


I'm not a fan of Nnadi kanu but the guy is doing something sha.... Just like Sunday igboho has started his own..... When will the SS kick off their own.

You're Edo I guess , I understand your fears in the case of Nigeria's break up but wishing away the inevitable is not wise

[quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=101837306][/quote]You make me laugh.

Do you expect me join your Igbo hating band? No brother.it does not work that.

Eastern region has come and gone.
I can't keep blaming igbo for our failure.

Eastern region lasted for 12years..... Akwa Ibom is over 30 years and cross river(old south eastern state) is over 50years,

We can't keep Igbo for our failure!

Secondly, I'm not speaking highly of Igbos,
I'm only being real with you.

Cross River and Akwa Ibom haven't chosen biafra yet.... We must negotiate our ways our simply remain separate in our own space.

Igbo are not our problem and we're not their problem too.

Efik and ibibio are not the only ethnic groups in akwacross,
And these groups have a stake when the issue of self determination will be discussed

AdakaBoro8:
igbo is a disgraced to africa.. u think ibibio and efik will descent so low to marry u created by mistake humans?? see every tribe has reject u yam heads.. even ur fulani brothers rejected u..

Unfortunately for you,you're dead wrong

Do you think think people in Cross River and Akwa Ibom will tow the line of Igbo hating?
You're making laughing


Igbo people are our closest cousins.
Many communities in ebonyi, Abia are of same root with clans in neighboring cross river and Akwa Ibom.


I urge you not drag on this issue.

Economcally-
Igbo are one of the biggest investors in our cities of Calabar and Uyo both in real estate, commerce, industry and even agriculture.

Culturally -

We share lots of culture like Ekpe.

Historically -

We were part and parcel Aro Confederacy.

We fought together till the end of biafra, our son was the second in command in biafra...

Are you aware that most of biafra top commanders were our sons, it's a thing a pride regardless of how biafra turned out to be.

Socially,I feel welcomed and at home whenever I'm owerri, Aba and Enugu (very beautiful city)

. In Enugu and Aba many of our people have numerous business especially in Clothing and textile making, shoe making and cuisines and restaurants (we make the best foods alongside Igbos)

Geographically:

We share land borders with igbo people and it's strategic for us to close with our neighbors,

For example, if someone in Akwa Ibom and cross river is under attack, who do you think will come to his rescue?.A person in Benin, Warri or beyelsa?.

I would be dead before they arrive but Abia and ebonyi are a few mins away.


So bro abandon your Igbo hate, it can't work with us.


Igbo has what it takes to build a world class country and every one in SS knows this.

Look at what they are doing for Lagos via seaports revenue.

I would love that to replicated in Ibom seaport project which aba in its blueprint.

As a diasporan, I see things differently especially it involves Igbo, SS minorities and Nigeria's break up.

AdakaBoro8:
yes. we sold them.. igbos are our slaves. and now they want to head using biafra. tufiaaaa. we cant allow our slaves to head us.. to hell with biafra

So that's what it's all about?
Because of the past history.....

What stopped you and your people from maintaining the lead?..


Bro it's better for you and any other person in SS drop this kind thoughts.

I'm not Igbo and I don't envy them.
Igbo worked their asses for them to be where they are today.

Its akin to how Germanic people were once looked down and called barbarians by Romans and Greeks but today it's a different story.

Germany is the most influential power, economy and political in Europe.
Germany single handedly pulled Italy (Romans) and Greece (Greeks) from recession under EU.

Igbo rise after the fall of Biafra is an African inspiration success story.

Many young men in my village who served Igbo business owners as apprenticeship in Calabar, Uyo, Aba and Onitsha are doing well and have become a light in our communities.

Igbo people have their flaws like pride and too much ambition but nobody is perfect.....everyone has their own flaws.

Live and let live

Elliot2:
If we do not sieze this moment to become independent, I don't see anyone coming from the Niger Delta that will have the support of the whole to push for our freedom.

Seeing the docility in South South makes me cry.


I'm not a fan of IPOB and Kanu but.... They're still doing something

AdakaBoro8:
we need real akwacross men to decide..

Decide on what really?

Bro we need to see things happen.

Not online noise.

AdakaBoro8:
what sot of nonsenses is these?

do i talk about minorities here?
i said we Ijaw dont have representative in any ojukwu biafra meeting and you typing indian and jamaica for me.

Its rude to call one's opinion nonsense.

Are ijaws not of minority?


I don't know what you mean by representation in Ojukwu meetings

The Administrators of in ijaw areas in biafra; ; Degema - - - S. N. Dikibo;
Opobo - - - S. J. Cookey;
Yenegoa - - Frank Opigo. I learnt that opigo was the man suggested the name Biafra at the eastern conservative assembly.

There was a ijaw king who served in Ojukwu cabinet, after the fall of Biafra, the military administrator of rivers state sent him on exile.



I used to think like you until I started reading books by independent authors, my opinion changed.

Biafra was in the past though, I don't blame igbo for how things went because my people also contributed to what happened even in its failure

AdakaBoro8:
dont worry about us.. our own time is coming.

Bro are you sure?

Well I'm optimistic sha.
Time waits for nobody.

Disintegration of Nigeria is eminent and any SS groups will join forces with any bloc who are ready.

As it stands now only Ambazonia, biafra...... Somehow oduduwa are making moves on secession.

Good luck

AdakaBoro8:
what do u talk?

About Niger delta....... One minute it's for entire South South and the next minute it's for Ijaws.

Many younger generation like me from Akwa Cross bloc are really confused about this.

I'm a disaporan and I'm yet to see any moves for self determination of the SS zone.

Don't get me wrong, I like SS forming their own country but wishes don't make reality.

Many of our ijaw Brethren sees NDR as their birthright which is understandable because of the historical ties to it but in reality these is not paying off,

There's no discussions aside oil and resource control..... What about ethnicities in SS who doesn't have a drop oil?

Lately I learnt that Many youths in my village and across Cameroon border in Bakassi has been in constant contact with IPOB and ambazonia groups, I inquired why not Niger delta groups and my cousin told that, these are the only ones available.

Kinematics:
Focus on your biafra, and leave us alone. We shall fend for ourselves.

Lol.

Always bear in mind that we in SS will answer our papa names.

Since there's no room for discussion

Kinematics:
This one is an educated illiterate.
You think its by having useless population with no substance. Ask Ethiopia how they keep leaking the ass of Djibouti just to have access to sea.

Or go ask Uganda why they keep paying homage to Kenya and Tanzania just to use their sea..

Quite obvious Ibos do not know what's going on in the world today.
Let me not go far, Chad republic here depends on Cameroon for the export of their crude and imports of goods. Niger Republic depend on Ports in Benin Republic etc. You can't force anyone to open his land or waterways just because you want your vessels or vehicles to pass.

Igbo people have a different case from these other people you mentioned.

I'm not Igbo but I think they will be fine.

They may not have littoral status but they have access to the ocean.

There's a place in Ebonyi, i think it's Afrikpor(don't mind my spelling) that have direct access to the ocean via cross river (my state)

It would be nice if they make use of it.
Its gonna be a win-win situation for everybody.

PHijo:
So when it is not Igbo victims it is baseless lies. Igbos buried Ijaws alive. Several Ijaw communities commemorate their survival, and a lot of us have family members lost under those circumstances. We are not talking about forceful recruitment we are talking of forceful evacuation and the burying alive of Ijaw men and boys.

Forceful evacuation took place all over biafra.

My people were evacuated to refugee camp in Aba when federal troops move into ikot ekpene.
Same in eket and calabar.

It was really a tragedy.
Recently I learnt that there was more igbo villages than any other ethnic groups in biafra.

I think it's time our people in South South chart a new course.

gidgiddy:
Well the way Nigeria is today, the only people who are likely to get a referendum are those agitating for one.

Referendum is a very expensive thing, just like elections, nobody does it for people who are not agitating for it

There is agitation for Biafra, we have all seen the pictures of the many who came out for it

Theres agitation for Oduduwa, just yesterday, they stormed Osogbo for it

Nobody has ever seen any agitation for Niger Delta Republic, and its most likely that nobody ever will see any agitation for it. The simple truth is that nobody wants Niger Delta Republic, otherwise, people would have come out for it

There will be referendum for Oduduwa and Biafra, they are the only agitations on the ground. Any ethnic group in the South that does not vote to join either of them will be left in Nigeria to continue "one Nigeria" with the Arewa North

That's my problem with folks talking about Niger delta... There's no actionable plans.

My people can't sit down and wait for an unseen unicorn..

Biafra is providing the only vehicle for self determination and we're jumping on it

[quote author=Abagworo post=101764241]After studying this thread I've come to discover that non-Igbos are more concerned on how to stop Igbos from developing than how to develop themselves. Nigeria is building railway to Niger republic in order to ease importation via Nigerian ports to Niger but everything being discussed here is how to stop Igbos from trading via Niger Delta in the event of an imaginary secession. Presently Igbos are not using the Niger Delta ports because of conspiracy to deny Niger Delta the gains of thriving Ports. Igbos import through Lagos ports and that is the attraction of most mega commercial ventures to the city.


The people of Akwa Ibom and Cross River are not part of it.

Igbo people are our own people.

Nobody from Akwacross Will stop the movement of ships to abia via imo river.

The two biggest projects in Akwa Ibom and cross river, namely tinapa and Ibom deep seaport has Igbo commercial hub of Aba and onitsha in their blue prints.

Igbo people have invested greatly in our space and many of our people have business in Aba and Enugu too.