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ItooWorWor:
Impressive

As we buy drones, lets source for good air defence systems and electronic warfare systems

ProblemChild1:
So we get air force and dem never go distroy boko haram for their camp

Lol, our air force is modernizing; and btw it's even the airforce that's spearheading the war against bokos with their recent breakthroughs. They have been magnificent even with the old alpha jets of those days with dismal targeting systems and recently with those modern tucanos; our pilots are just too good

As the war keeps going on, air defense systems keeps improving daily. Necessity is the mother of inventions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNy-DexZGck

Another test to the durability of ka52 alligator


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCdCCIN-_D4

Faithful007:
This is what happened in the 1940s and this is 2022. Okay going by your logic, I should as well bring up Joseph Stalin who starved over 5 million Ukrainians to death in the 1930s because they asked for Independence from the USSR. What can you say about that too? If we were to count bodies 5 million >>>> 220000 Yet the world blames the US of today why everyone leaves Russia of today.

Fast forward to 2022, Putin is still killing Ukrainians because they want to be independent while US and Japan are great allies. Be honest with yourself, who has changed here and who hasn't?

Secondly, US senate does not pass laws on sanctions. The sanctions story is false. You can give me a link where you saw that.

Another West bs, they didn't tell you about the after-effects of ww2.... 20 million people won't die and their economy will be singing, did they tell you about those that died in Europe due to starvation; what Germany suffered due to nazi actions. Ohhh, if we are bringing ww2 case scenarios; The thing about history is that, history is very biased to the writers of it. This isn't 1940s but 2000s and 1990s, and us still committed that barbaric act. For example, look at Bush war; South africa won hands down but youtube channels sings it's a draw or that they lost

Faithful007:


Lol. What is the propaganda?
The exchange of bodies?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-body-swap-azovstal/

Or the database which also helps to ID russian soldiers with AI?
https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-ukraine-has-started-using-clearview-ais-facial-recognition-during-war-2022-03-13/

Bro, bro...let's just end it here..... Azovstal is a different case entirely, didn't the same Ukraine kill the pows using himars. Which one is AIs facial recognition?... They will coup up one mumbo jumbo and you won't use your head to reason

Faithful007:
Extremely cheap propaganda.

In most countries including Ukraine. Every soldier's identity is registered by the Armed forces. DNA, blood samples, dentition are taken. This is done to recognize bodies no matter in what condition they may be in. That's why sometimes you hear that a long lost soldier's body has been found. Ukraine confirmed that none of the bodies recovered in Izum matched records in the military database. Hence they're civilians.

Meanwhile, Russia and Ukraine have been exchanging bodies through the Red Cross via Geneva Convention. Another option is to mark the graves so they bodies can be retrieved. So why did Russia suddenly decide to bury people in unmarked graves

What if I call your own cheap propaganda too,let's just end it here. This is not the place to be arguing

Lurker4Long:

it was inevitable.

Faithful007:
I knew you would eventually deviate from the topic. We were not talking about whether the war was justified or whose death was the most painful or who takes the blame.

I stated here that the US military did not commit up to 5 percent of what Russia has done in a few months. That was the comment you quoted to start your argument. So I was specifically talking about military action and not indirect or resultant effects. You'll never see an occasion where the US military shot civilians and buried them in mass graves. They are way more professional than that. 2022 and the Russian army is using civilians for target practice. Shame!

It isn't goal post bro, 1 million is 10 times what russian army did. Now they are driving two brothers to fight because of their promises. It may look like numbers to you but those are people families, a father child, some orphans that lost their parents due to greed. From Russian propaganda, those are Ukrainians that died in trenches and was abandoned by their people and they buried them not leaving them to rot

Faithful007:
You did not read what you cited. You're saying two different things.

The US killed one million people and one million people dieing after the US invasion are entirely two different issues. ISIS which formed against the US has killed far more Iraqis than anyone. Iraqi's military has shot far more as well. Famine and hunger and socio economic factors killed ten times more people than violence.

The ORB survey you cited also did a simultaneous poll to determine who the citizens preferred. Twice the number of people who responded from the rural areas said that the preferred the US led democratic rebuild than Saddam's regime. And mind you, the ORB poll was flawed at best. Basically asking people how many in their household had died since 2003 other than at old age.

As for Pakistan that you mentioned, yes and hundreds of drone strikes were carried out in Pakistan. Very soon you'll shift ground to start condemning the US there too. In Saudi Arabia, many financiers were executed by the government there.

So nobody massacred one million people please.

What's the difference? they indirectly killed 1 million people. Does it not mean that they still killed them, Their deaths is even worse than those with guns. So how are you going to twist it now? Even after saddam hussein fall, why did you guys invade again to cause more deaths?, What is America bad blood with middle-east?..... Is their crimes their religion? Or maybe their natural resources Or maybe their form of leaders. Don't they have Israel in middle-east to give them a whole sense of security. Don't come here and start throwing stones on a sinner, when yours is even worse. Clean your cupboard first

Fynline:
You talk like Boboye from the telegram page. Pls dont turn this thread to Russia/Ukraine crisis like you guys are doing on telegram

My sincere apologies from my end

Faithful007:
The bolded is untrue.

Bro, we are fighting propaganda with propaganda..... What are the facts to back up your claims?.... The claims are undisputed, even most Americans that I argue with has accepted it as the truth
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-deaths-survey-idUSL3048857920080130

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey_of_Iraq_War_casualties

All for what?...... Because of oil and gold, 1 million people were massacred. The ones6 that had links or sponsored the 9/11 have been traced to pakistan and Saudi Arabia but they're untouched till today

MAN1960:
Thank you very much sir most times I wonder what this trend is all about this days, some will come here to teach us political history of Kenya others will always come here to let us know that they are fangirls to the US

Faithful007:
But weren't throwing questions to me? US is my second country btw so expect me to gravitate there. Sorry about that.

US politics is open, even a cave man can know the ins and outs due to them pushing it up our noses, if you open social media. So I can dabble with you, btw congrats American...... your opinions balances the thread, US killed over 1 million iraqis during their invasion, which Russian crime(s) is higher than that?.

Faithful007:
DNC and Democrat Party in general are not thinking of fielding Pelosi. There is already dissent about Biden's age long before now.

Here is Africa military, we can't be arguing American politics here.

Faithful007:
If 5 percent of atrocities Russia has done in Ukraine was done by the US or Israeli Army, the whole world will be boiling, condemning and condemning. Everybody will be writing anti-USA articles here and there.

First they shot civilians driving on highways in Kiev
Next they killed civilians on camera in a shop.
Russian officers castrated and shot a Ukrainian soldier on camera.
More than 400 bodies of non-combatants found in Izum.

Before you argue, remember that these are not casualties from line/radius of fire or indirect casualties. These are straight up inhumane activities that the Russian government did not condemn or try to investigate.

What about the atrocities of Ukraine, the russian officer castration was fake and proved; most of all the things coming out are pure propaganda from both sides, you didn't mention the banned petal mines that mostly sent to dnr civilian regions daily, shelling of malls by ukraine , alright us is a saint...what about their atrocities in vietnam that the media tried so hard to cover up?.... All sides are the same thing, no one is saint. Russia own is open because they're trying their utmost best to vilify them and suppress the protest going in Europe especially the recent one in France, czech, and germany

Faithful007:
She's too old for that. She's 82.

After Biden's second term. The Democrats will sure like to field a woman. It will give a them a fresh look by then. However, top Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama and lately Kamala Harris are there as well though Kamala's not that popular. They're even considered more Liberal and traditional than Pelosi who started her politics more on the progressive cacus than liberal.

The DNC will likely not nominate a progressive in 2028. If Michelle Obama still refuses to run as she's always said, my bet is on Hillary Clinton.

Michelle is the surest candidate for Democrats after Biden's tenure but she likely won't run. Even Obama doesn't like the idea of returning to the white house as a "First gentleman".

How old is trump then??,biden is even 79 yes old, As far as she is capable... They will find a reason, isn't it politics again.....

Faithful007:
Pelosi just visited Armenia to condemn Azerbaijan's uprovoked attack.

Now before you anti-westerners quickly jump in to start falling in love with Azerbaijan without thinking. Note that Russia supports and even has a security agreement with Armenia. And that's not all, Iran supports Armenia too. Yes Iran

Now do you know that Azerbaijan is backed militarily by Israel? Yes Israel

This is just a simple example of regular international politics. That is why you Africans should never think of international politics as a tribal tug of war between "east" and "west". Things are way more complex than such a simple generalization.

Someone that's planning her next aim for president of us, if biden messes up and us tends to show public support for weaker side. It's part of their usual campaign

Faithful007:
Everyone knows the US is fighting a proxy war with Russia and don't want to lose. If military aid is what it takes away then that's fine. Ukraine are "paying" for it by using it on the Russians. Simple as ABC.

Lol, even ww2 that US did landlease for nazi Germany; Russia paid for it till 2006. US are business men not a charity organization, even China dwarfs in comparison to them in money matters

davefurn:
If it's like that, why are the ukrainian tanks currently on ground mostly poland tanks; donated aircrafts, donated apcs... Every thing Ukraine is using to fight now are donated from sister countries or US, EU or Britain intervention. That's to show that, most of their stock have either destroyed or finished or too old to be used. The evident truth is that without the help of the collective west, Ukraine won't be standing today and if Ukraine loses, it'll be a big blow to the west and they also need the war to end fast. They can't afford to let it stretch too long because they will lose more from it especially with the discontent of the recent inflation in Europe. A good example is the change of power in Sweden to the conservatives.

And now the switching from Russian gas to another country gas; I will happen quite alright but now they won't have it cheaply, china and india are benefiting the most though, those 2 have a hungry population of over 4 billion people to give energy to and they need it cheaply. Russia is the reason why EU and Europe is where it's today, from the cheap gas, cheap natural resources etc. Both are interdependent on each other.

Faithful007:
Putin called his project in Ukraine a "special military operation" for a reason. Because using such an ambiguous term, he can throw out any narrative for his battalion of low IQ defenders to swallow. First if you ask yourself, what exactly is a special military operation, you immediately notice how that term was just meant to deceive as each objective fails.

First he assaults Kiev with his airborne troops, fails then returns to say that the aim wasn't to occupy Kiev but a "special military operation" to "denazify" Kiev.

While his military fully retreats to the Donetsk and Luhansk he throws out the narrative that the "special military operation" has been completed

If Ukraine succeeds in edging him out, he will still come out to say that the "special military operation" has been completed "according to plan".

He will come out to claim how Ukrainian military has been degraded whereas he has lost more planes, tanks and equipment than Ukraine

If it's like that, why are the ukrainian tanks currently on ground mostly poland tanks; donated aircrafts, donated apcs... Every thing Ukraine is using to fight now are donated from sister countries or US, EU or Britain intervention. That's to show that, most of their stock have either destroyed or finished or too old to be used. The evident truth is that without the help of the collective west, Ukraine won't be standing today and if Ukraine loses, it'll be a big blow to the west and they also need the war to end fast. They can't afford to let it stretch too long because they will lose more from it especially with the discontent of the recent inflation in Europe. A good example is the change of power in Sweden to the conservatives.

Tinfoil:
One thing I don't like about Kenya is how they waste a lot of their land and resources by having large wildlife preserves. If you look at Europe you will barely see any native wildlife. It went extinct centuries ago. They say they earn a lot from tourism but that money is made by the international companies that own the resorts and very little trickles down the ordinary citizens.

The wildlife preserves are have a lot of minerals like iron and coal which can make jobs for millions of people and turn the country into the next china

Environmental NGOs lie to the country that they are doing well but the people in these groups are rich, get millions in donations and their children and in Europe. They care more about animals than the Kenyan people

I don't get your opinion, is it not the same coal and iron that they will steal too...... Europe and America has a lot of wildlife reserves too.

Lurker4Long:

Omo, don't even understand them

Exnavyboy62:
"We shall fight Russia till the last Ukrainian and foreign mercenary" _The United Snakes of WARmerica

I think your write up just cleared my doubt on this trending statement above by some angry concerned people.

Forget that last ukrainian stuffs, that's just russ props. They are like taiwan to China. Just that theirs was already too much and something needed to be done;

SuperSixSeven:
You are a extraordinary naive and dump personality.

The truth is Russia doesn't want to bring in more troops, how can you be using the same 200k troops to fight since beginning of Feb; Ukraine has done 7 mass mobilisation and now they want to start using women now banning them for leaving the country, they have over 700k troops on ground.... Numbers matters alot in a war even if they are just poorly trained that's why NATO fights as a group to augment the numbers factors

kikuyu1:
Success? Source.

That was what was trending then, haven't checked it out yet. On another note, Nigerian military have been doing so well with the recent reports of insurgency;

kikuyu1:
Really!? They decided on an aggressive battlefield posture this week in Kherson to prove their worthy of a new US 3 bn $ arms package. Here's their major Anglo Zionist MSM outlet:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/

Read the whole thing. Am trying to avoid Russian media but the mayor of the Transcarpathian town from whence the 128th mountain assault brigade was drawn declared a day of mourning-they took at least 70% KIA. This neutral blog from an ex serving American officer reveals the truth of the Kherson fighting.


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/ukraine-loses-soldiers-europe-its-economies-all-for-no-gain.html#more

It was a terrible decision that shows the J/Uke army command wasn't in control of things. No FKn way any army man even the greenest 2nd lieutenant couldn't ordered an attack against prepared positions on an enemy with armour on a battlefield without cover! Look at the pix-its basically ALL steppe;no cover or even concealment.
There are some lessons from this tragedy. It seems this move was pushed by Zelensky against the advice of army commander Gen Zeluzhny. I can believe that as there've been stories of J/Uke army resentment with Zelensky for interfering in operational details.


https://babel.ua/en/news/83353-zelensky-denied-rumors-about-zaluzhny-s-possible-resignation

[b]Also,learn to take the L,goddammit! [/b]Know when to retreat and live to fight another day-reinforcing failure and screeching," never surrender!" looks good on motivational speaker vids but in the real world is the perfect script leading to lower colorectal pain.

But they had some success in Kharkov too..... Seems they are now using NATO trained troops

Faithful007:
The problem is that Ethiopia wants the west to see Tigray as the problem here. But the US and her partners don't want to do that. They want to handle them both on equal footing. That boils down to my earlier point. If it isn't religious terrorism, the US will be constrained to act to please anyone. Ethiopia wants to crush TPLF but the US is looking for negotiations and ceasefire.

Okay then. You made some points there

Faithful007:
The US are not backing anybody.

Let me give you a quick rule of thumb. The US currently has no plan to back any of these political struggles in Africa because it is just like tipping a domino. The US currently is only interested in negotiating cease fires in all conflicts concerning Africa. So long as it isn't terrorism, count the US of A off. In fact the legitimate government will still be recognized no matter what.

Africa's conflicts are viewed as largely socially driven and intractable, coupled with illiteracy, tribalism and extremism. Nobody wants to meddle with that. If it is a nationwide struggle against an autocratic government, that's a different case. But you see all these ethno-religious conflicts that tend to stratify countries. clashes fought on ethnic and economic grounds complicated by misinformation; nobody is interested in backing anyone.

Then why place restrictions on the Ethiopian government. To them, they wanted it to end faster and peacefully..... Most times us tends to support the weaker side even though they may sometimes be in the wrong. Btw Ukraine are doing very well now with their counterattack
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/28/ethiopia-tigray-abiy-tplf-war-biden-needs-to-correct-course/

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2021/12/25/us-backed-tplf-seeks-protection-from-un-after-facing-military-defeat/

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/us-imposes-restrictions-ethiopia-assistance-over-tigray-2021-05-23/

Lurker4Long:
This is not charity; place your orders. Egypt and the Horn have received grain. Now tell me which other African countries depend heavily on Ukrainian grain?

I'm rather more interested in the insult of the president of a 3rd world country in eastern Europe thinking he's the "guarantees food security for an entire continent.

If it isn't charity why use it in the first place as a weapon?...... And now he claims to guarantee our food security because he is ringing new York exchange bells now?

NTSA:
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How many of the grains went to africa, 90% went to Europe, only gave grains to feed 1.5million people that US caused with her backing the tiggray rebels

Toju200:
Warning: Graphic
Nigeria SOF operator

That's too graphic na, you suppose blur the head completely

Odunayaw:
Just like the ruling party