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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 10:34pm On Mar 22, 2018

TolaTosin:
Hahahjajajaja

This ur mentality is setting you up for destruction.

If u challenged your pastor then u don't know the scriptures.

Lemme lecture you , you quoted a demon restraining an angel.

What is the hierarchy of angels in the realms of the spirit?

Note that there were no Christians in the old testament?

Daniel was not a Christian

Also note that a higher ranked angel came, how come the demon could not stop that angel too

Now what is the hierarchy of a Christian in spiritual realms?

You are too full of yourself and u think you know it all,
Answer the above questions, and come back with your jotter and bible.

@alfseth, hahhahhahahahha jagons

The demons are using him to make u belief that you can be tormented as a Christian, no worry continue and enjoy the torment

Ye all lack understanding, my people perish

lol.... (claps)

what are you Tryna say?

That every stuff a pastor says on the pulpit is not subject to confirmation? Berean Christians, remember them?

Next you bring up hierarchy..... you asked to show where in the scriptures that the devil was powerful. I showed only one and now, you bring up Daniel wasn't a Christian talk. Where is the correlation? Pls. Seven sons of sceva incident? What makes Jesus to say at the ascension that "all power...."

How would he get all power if he there wasn't an existing?

Was Daniel not filled with the Holy Spirit?

You shot yourself in the foot by asking that question about why the demon couldn't resist Michael. Gotcha.

In fact, what is the meaning of hierarchy? why does it exist? Lets go all basic since you seem to not understand these things easily.

It's you demons are using man... You just don't want to be of the school of thought that the devil is a powerful being. Like seriously!! huh

?

Mystery Babylon!!!!

Keep it up. But I'm out. I pray you see the light soon.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 10:22pm On Mar 22, 2018

Maestro21:
You are appealing to your false experience and it does not work in a robust discussion.

I said you cannot read because you keep trying to explain demonic entities and how real they are and I am telling you that you are preaching to the choir.

What that means is...Pastor Chris did not say Demons do not exist. Understand?

There is no such thing as a deliverance ministry. If there is one, use bible verses to teach me. I am willing to learn.

I have met people who were Christians for 30+ years of their lives and when I started showing them scripture, they felt like they had never known the bible all their lives.

So your 20 years means nothing.

Mark focused his writings on Deliverance. So the deliverance ministry does exist.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 10:07pm On Mar 22, 2018

alfseth:
God bless you again i'm lifted by this reply people (some christians) dont read diar Bible to back up faith "underestimate the devil"one of the greatest harm a christian can do to his/her spiritual lyf

It's a pity.

And this is my issue with this age of mentorship.

Mentor says and like a zombie you just follow without thinking of rechecking the scriptures.

A shocker is that great MOGs like Hagin, Copeland, Hinn, Osteen etc all had their members during service rebuke them publicly on wrong doctrines. These very men humbly took to corrections.

But try that in a naija church publicly and your eye go see shegeh. Either he cursed you or usher bundles you out. Such arrogance!!

The Berean Christians are still the standard for any group of believers.... They searched the scriptures incase what Paul said was true. And when correlation surfaced, they accepted.

But now, we have brainwashed Christians that follow everyone wind of doctrine(there is a reason it's called "wind" and not "breeze" and that's cos it's strong and persuasive that even the elect would get deceived.)

I sat with a student that loved God and saw the zeal in her. I dunno why I just brought up the issue of salvation as a topic with her and we began to flow. By scriptural back up and how the process for accepting Christ is, I was able to decode that she wasn't saved atall. After explaining that part, I saw that she was shocked, and suddenly grew silent. It was obvious that she wasn't saved. She was just a cultural churchgoer cos her parents did same. And so that translated to being saved for her. Her mentor didn't even ask if she was saved, according to her, and then he "ministered" Baptism of whatever to her. She could kabash for hours at end.... The biggest irony of my life.

So where did the error arise from?

Was this "faith"?

Is this the "By grace you made me who I am" situo?

How many millions of youths out there are just like her?

What sort of faith is she now professing?

The answered are all very scary. And I wonder how the good Lord feel up there at the right hand of the father.

The devil wasnt powerful, yet the most spiritual being ever created fell into sin cos of his persuasiveness and deception@Adam&Eve? The church truly needs prayers!!!

End times we are truly.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 9:24pm On Mar 22, 2018

TolaTosin:
Your problem is that you grew up with this doctrine.

Hahhahhahahhaha

Unlearn that poo u were taught.

Or show me where in the bible that indicates or slightly portrays the devil as powerful.

U r a learner and the devil will continue to torment you until u know he is powerless

smh at your thinking. I've challenged my pastor as a Lil kid cos he was saying stuff that weren't scripturally backed up. so you have no idea of what doctrine I believe or not. Such a hasty generalization. keep it up.

How about we start with Daniel's delayed answer to prayer for 21days by the prince of Persia aka Mr devil?

Prince of Persia delayed an angel and for 21days until the topmost angel had to come clear the way....

Should I go further. cos in this same bible you claim to know are allllll the answers I'd used to show you that you know Nada about what you carry. And that's exactly what the devil wants. He doesn't want Christians to know the word, so they would bask in ignorance; an extension of the very crafty he's a legend for.... deception via ignorance.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 9:17pm On Mar 22, 2018*

shadeyinka:
What is the name of the demon Jesus cast out from the mad man of Gadarene?

Legion!

"My name is legion, for we are many.."

And Jesus said, liar! A demon will say any thing in the name of deliverance Abi!?

A demon says "I am her husband...I make love to her every night..."
And your response is "its a lie, there is no such thing as spiritual husband"
And in reality, this woman says she was daily molested in her dreams by a giant man!

Judge now!
Even Pastor Chris balanced it at the end of the message if you listened to it ("it is a spiritual reality for some people".

If it is a spiritual reality, then of exists!

So by conclusion, he is a confusionist himself to speak from two sides of his mouth?

That video is the evidence, and in a law court, that would get him the tag of being confused.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 9:07pm On Mar 22, 2018

Ladyhippolyta88:
He backed them with proof have you seen a spirit wife or husband before physically or mere say?

Unfounded question? no Strength to this question.

who sees a spirit before he can conclude that it's a spirit?

Answer me and I'll withdraw.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 9:01pm On Mar 22, 2018

alfseth:
Gbam God bless you for saying my mind

May God Sama you with wealth and blessings, peace of mind for understanding the scriptures as it said and not what a mentor somewhere says.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 8:58pm On Mar 22, 2018

you might have said several things, but I'm flabbergasted that someone that claims to be a student of the scriptures come and tell me otherwise.

See this is an extension if the faith doctrine which is being abused to an Everest like level.

but the shocker is the very champion of this faith doctrine took his time to describe who the devil is. And how he operates.

Pls someone that is very crafty is that person a dunce. someone that have been in the game of deception, is that one a dunce. someone that keeps making the mighty to fall and people to turn from God for thousands of years back till date, is that one a dunce? Very laughable and saddening at the same time.

I'm I hyping the devil? Maybe, Maybe not. My Bible says that's who he is, and it backs it up with history inside of it. Does it mean I should be afraid of him? atall, I shouldn't.

Paul talked like a military guy when addressing issues of spiritual warfare.

Normal day to day military strategies shows that you must know you enemy's strengths and weaknesses. Not undermine them.

that's not faith, that's brainwashing. serious one.

I've never come across this before.

"Even the devil goes about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he will devour"

No rest for this guy called devil.

He is crafty and he doesn't rest. So can we give him the tag "hardworking"?

Ahhh. A pity.

The late R. W Schambach and Lester Sumrall were one of the best preachers to focus on who the devil really is. giving him his credits and etc, so we know who we are up against. Then they now entered into the realm of defeating him cos of who we have @Jesus....

Not some crappy teaching by one mentor that tells me to undermine the devil cos he's failed at the cross etc.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 8:44pm On Mar 22, 2018

TolaTosin:
Bros u are doomed if u believe that the devil is powerful
Hhaahahhahahaha

Did The devil appear to Jesus and tempted him?

It was all questions that popped up in his mind, if Jesus didn't know the tricks he would have fallen for it and the devil will use that to manipulate him.

The devil works using tricks, tricks and lies.

He has no power, I mean nothing.

Without human beings his tricks wont be successful.

There is no place in the bible that portrays the devil to be powerful abeg ooo

Anyone who says the devil is powerful is a devil worshippers

Stop glorifying the devil, he is a dunce

really? This are the kind of talks that are a follow up from being seared like with a hot iron.

smh@you. May the Lord open your eyes to the reality around you both physically and spiritually.

With all bible scriptures right before you..... and you can still say this crap?

So I see a lion ready to devour, and I'll just turn my back and say "oh that's a goat, can't hurt Nada"

Is that faith?

So if you see it as something else, it now means that's exactly what it is.

The devil has been deceiving right before Adam came about so here is my conclusion about how you think..... You aren't a Christian. simple.

You give credence to the fact that the devil's power is as a result of humans ascribing him such power? hahahahhahahahahaha

May God have mercy on you.

Please who else is a scripture person here? someone needs serious school abeg. This is one of the shallowest defences I've heard regarding talks on the scriptures in a decade.... Sorry I crept by.

Oluwa sanu WA o.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 8:23pm On Mar 22, 2018

TolaTosin:
We all operate from different realms anyone who's faith can not carry his teachings should leave it.

See there are people if u don't give them olive oil, it is as though they is no God.

Some if they go to church and the pastor didn't tell them that a witch is his problem, they will just feel God was not in church.

May God help us.

Personally I have found out that it beings with the mind, if u open ur mind to operations of demons that is what you will get.

If you open ur mind to sin, that is what you will get.

@shadeyinka, even without going to church, if your keep your mind clean, nothing will happen to you.

@dave

No witch can stop ur progress, it is something that I have tested.

It all begins with the mind, the devil has no power, quote me anywhere.

If a pastor told you so, then I'll call that deception.

The devil is powerful. He can hinder, stop, cause delay, injure beings, etc.

The bible all through proves this and we haven't choice than to agree that he is a powerful being.

Don't underrate him atall. Rather we can enter the realm of a greater power when we are now into Christ to which every knee bows. Now that's the big big difference. Doesn't mean he isn't powerful. His power is just simply trumped by a higher, intact the highest power. By default we that are now sons can now operate in that realm. Does that make him without power? no.

Bottom line. Don't underrate him. The boldness that he thought of tempting Christ in human form shows that he is daring. and Life teaches us to not underrate such persons.

The devil's craft of deception is way way more higher and stronger than his craft for doing evil!!!

The bible talks about witches. In fact let's not start....

Besides your stance on opening your mind is very very weak. Mind receptiveness is not what causes things to happen. Heart receptiveness does coupled with actions.

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Politics › Re: FG Did Not Pay Us Any Ransom – Boko Haram On Released Dapchi Girls by daveP(m): 8:07pm On Mar 22, 2018

Hehehehehe

Which terrorist organization would come out and say such a thing?

Asin they know that in case of future kidnapping, no one would want to negotiate him. so why side the FG that way?

Do they think we are that dump. This script is worse than the one directed by a university student.
very laughable.

Asin which terrorist group talks this way....

FG really do take us as media fools actually. Asin they do believe this every new day. so they have no fear atall. opposition or not.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome On Spiritual Wife Or Husband: There Is Nothing Like That by daveP(m): 8:01pm On Mar 22, 2018

one of the disgraces to Christianity speaks again.

All these stupid teachers that are lowering the standard of Christianity with majorly the Faith and Grace talk upandan.

Now since we have two MOGs that have millions of followers. They both are now conflicting, let's see how the camp will further divide. Arrant nonsense.

That's how he earlier said Masturbation isn't a sin, bla bla.

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Politics › Re: Army Commander Carrying Released Dapchi Girl (Photo) by daveP(m): 1:53pm On Mar 22, 2018

The soldiers are so comfy with the return that they can't even track these guys as they go back to their den either via aerial or via the pick up van type..... smh

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:57pm On Mar 22, 2018

somehow:
I actually thought i heard wrongly, that was what i heard. Shehu just kept straight face and Agbo was there too dancing.

I think they are 3 in their room.
Shehu
Musa
Agbo or maybe he just came to visit.

She need a secretary or p.a on public relations. that's disrespectful even if he was a younger brother to her. phew.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:55pm On Mar 22, 2018

I hope we are ready to digest the probability that arises when some of our darling players don't live up to expectations tomorrow?

Uzoho is young and u like that very well. it would make him garner wealthy experience like Donarumma of Italy who looked very amateurish Vs Arsenal in the Europa cup in terms of decision making and discretion.

Italy wouldn't mind such cos they know that before they get back on their feet again as a superpower in football, the guy would have entered the "the realm of the Buffon"

Same for Uzoho and Alampasu, the "realm of the Vincent"

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:47pm On Mar 22, 2018

forgiveness:
Let us hope the coach will do his job without thinking of..... You know what I mean.

lol. No Nuhu Ribadu can stop that act, except the mentality of the coach. And if he isn't into it, those fat bellied assistants that they are on bench iwhile a match goes on, they might pull such kind of strings.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:03am On Mar 22, 2018

enomakos:
only if we can qualified for the Africa championship

i pray we will.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:58am On Mar 22, 2018

soetanoreoluwa:
Let us qualify first

we will.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:56am On Mar 22, 2018

Humility017:
bro you are walking on pipe dream...

with that coach from nowhere....I don't trust him though only God knows how he got the job in the first place.

well I'm not even dreaming. I'm predicting based on the the quality of the team. But as you said, the coach matters.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:51am On Mar 22, 2018

somehow:
Nice one.. Joel's all smiles.

Was watching Shehu live yesterday when Musa called the wife.

The wife started saying.. "no go give person Belle for Poland o".. Musa went quiet. I thought heard him wrongly. The call was on speaker phone. I guess that embarrassed him because the call went off few seconds later.

Women and insecurity.

she no try if she said that o. Haba na.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:44am On Mar 22, 2018

isan:
Okay this is the clearer picture of Joel obi u are looking for and by my info i heard he is already showing his class in training

( in flavour's voice) onye Niba!

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:40am On Mar 22, 2018

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru, a few years back

Looks like Agege stadium?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:37am On Mar 22, 2018

elyte89:
Wc one is franco-german,is dere a country bearing franco-german,den Leon balogun is also Niger-german

Fixed

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:35am On Mar 22, 2018

forgiveness:
That's a good one. U20 coach, over to you.

I see no reason why we shouldn't win the next u20 WYC. Our hands are full than ever before.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:34am On Mar 22, 2018

komekn:
It depends on what you define a snub as in the first instance.

lol. you're funny.

Does snub have a new dictionary meaning?
We both know what I'm talking about here. No need to define "snub" again.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:45pm On Mar 21, 2018

Should we just save our pride and pull a Tammy on these turn about guys that snubbed us initially?

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:44pm On Mar 21, 2018

Korede Adedoyin of Everton wants to play for Nigeria. Teen talent...

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:20pm On Mar 21, 2018

tbaba1234:
Shehu and Musa

see how gear have design Musa's leg. grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:12pm On Mar 21, 2018

AllforJesus7:
Let them boycott. They won't be missed.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:11pm On Mar 21, 2018

soetanoreoluwa:
You know we re playing away from home.

Ebuehi for Balogun in 3CB How Sir?

Just experimenting. wrong call perhaps. Im not okay with Balogun at that spot though.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:10pm On Mar 21, 2018

Martz101:
Ezenwa has been lucky, his games for Nigeria has been the once we were very comfortable and he had little or nothing to do, but then he will always show his naivety in those matches Cameroon and Algeria.

Ezenwa has refuse to improve, he was with ideye in 2007 the under20 tournament, please visit back to his clips and you will know more about him. Ezenwa will surely go to world cup but should not be a starter

If those indiscipline can be worked d on, he will be a sure starter. But I just don't have trust in him for WC standards.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:14pm On Mar 21, 2018

Kog45:
OK O daveP

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