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JJYOU, its all God's fault.
He's the one who has prevented NEPA from providing us with 24 hrs uninterrupted power supply. It doesnt matter that ordinary South Africa and Ghana can achieve that already . . . perhaps God has pitched His hammock there.

Oh and manmustwack says God must take the blame for muslim leaders who wish to kill the blacks in Darfur . . . never mind that the Canadians have been living in perfect peace for donkey yrs . . . or perhaps God has his special garrage there.

Chris . . . lets stop deceiving ourselves here - lust and sexual attraction are one and the same thing. Trying to split them so as to force an erroneous point is like claiming six is different from half a dozen.

Chrisbenogor:
Look nobody is forced to reply to a thread here , if you feel pushed to reply at least say something that has to do with the question posedd rather than thinking it came from an atheist, are the questions Huxley asked not valid enough? I think they are, not everything is about atheism abeg!

I've just gone through Huxley's "questions" . . . they are not valid because it is based on a false premise in the first instance. Conflating genuine attraction for lust.

Igbo girls are some of the best chics you can ask for. yoruba girls come a close second.

An igbo woman knows how to pamper her man well.

michelin89:
Come one David, I haven't even thought of Eve and Job. I am just asking.

Is Your God good?

He is, but you can ignore Him if you want . . .

Chrisbenogor:
That is the point of this thread oh people , is your God good, simple and straight forward lets stick to issues here.

Yup. He may not be good to you, that's ok. Every man to himself.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=187476.msg2990025#msg2990025 date=1224884166]Hey david, why the new I.d?? Did you get banned or what??[/quote]yeah.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=187476.msg2990025#msg2990025 date=1224884166]Let me just say this, Mazaje has a point,

God allowed for the murder of Jobs family just to test his loyalty
God did not allow Moses into the promised land just because he struck a rock.
God tells the children of Isreal to wipe out an entire civilisation just so they can take their land.
Killed a man who tried to stop the ark from falling.
Wiped out the entire earth with water for reasons yet unkown to me.
Took his time to build a torture chamber _(Hell) for the souls of anybody who fails to see things his way.
Pulls a nasty Joke on Abraham telling him to dice his only legitimate son.[/quote]Mazaje has no point, we've been thru his endless "list" before when i thot he was someone interested in learning. He just keeps repeating the same thing over and over again no matter how many times you try to painstakingly go thru each of his claims.

1. God did not "allow" the murder of Job's family.
2. Disobedience has repercussions, we are only blessed because we live in the period of grace. Moses and the Jews didnt have such a chance then.
3. That would be the amalekites? I've pointed this out 3000 times to block heads here, the Amalekites were punished for attacking the defenceless, the young, the old and the weak among the jews when they were crossing the wilderness. I'm disappointed with people who merely parrot things they dont know.
4. Right from the time the Ark was made, there was a strict law that no non-levite (the priesthood) shld touch the ark. Every jew is aware of this.
5. The reasons are CLEARLY spelled out in the book of Genesis. Infact Noah was sent as a warner for years before the flood. More of the usual dishonesty here.
6. Sorry bro . . . i'm supposing you advocate the elimination of the justice system in your country of residence since that is just too wicked of a government punishing people for not "seeing things" the way of your constitution?
7. Go back and read the story of Abraham before making unfounded allegations.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=187476.msg2990025#msg2990025 date=1224884166]This dosent portray a God that cares. Or should I bring you to real time.

Sudan
Rwanda
Sierra leone
e.t.c.[/quote]It might interest you to note that Sudan is a muslim nation. Go ask your muslim brothers why their god is wicked too.
God wont fall down from heaven and tell you to stop killing urselves. Have you wondered why Africa is a hotbed of violence, famine and war and the Europeans and Americans are enjoying life? would you claim that God must only care for white people?

Simple, the whites got their hands on deck and worked to build a society, we are too busy fighting and then blaming God for our problems.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=187476.msg2990025#msg2990025 date=1224884166]Whats the proof that God cares??[/quote]You dont need proof. you dont need to believe in God.

Another thing that has to be quickly pointed out.

the title of this thread is one more example of the morally decaying world we live in. less than 200yrs ago there was nothing like "partner" in the sexual sense. You were either married or not.

huxley:
Can you try and answer the question, or are just sheepishly following this desert barbaric dogma without engaging your thinking faculties?

I find it funny that athiests always assume they are the only ones with "thinking faculties".  

Here is your first post on this issue - pls note my highlights

Matthew 5 27 You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.  28    But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart'.

In view of the above injunction from Jesus,  how do Christians make their choice about their future partners if they cannot lust after their partners?

What would make you choose one person over another as your partner?  Is physical attractiveness to that person one of those things that would influence your decision?

There is a world of difference between being physically attractive to your partner and lusting after her. The two are not the same. while Matthew 5:27 talks EXPLICITLY about lust (with emphasis on looking), it says nothing about genuine attraction.

There, here i was thinking you could engage your thinking faculties.

huxley:
You have not shown how I am conflating attraction and lust.  None of your answers have revealled that.  

I am simply asking -


If I am a single male Christian individual.  Is it wrong or a sin for me to lust after a single or a married woman?  If I do, what sin have I committed?


What is hard in that question to understand?

Here is your answer - Single or married it is a sin to LUST after a woman in your heart (you can say vice versa for a woman too just so you dont come back howling "what about women". The issue now is what do you understand by the term LUST?
Is it now wrong for a man to have genuine attraction for a woman? No. It is perfectly healthy and the bible encourages that . . . Jacob was attracted to Rachel that he worked 14 yrs to marry her . . . if it were simple lust he would have had tons of time within 14 yrs to have slept with her but he kept himself.

Lust is when you are attracted to a woman simply for the purpose of satisfying fleshly cravings or sex to put it in perspective. It is fornication or adultery in the heart depending on the status of the individual.

The bible puts LUST in a clearer perspective - 1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

naomijt:
in as much as u guys made valid points, u seem not to really know d poster's problem.

He is mistaken attraction for lust.

I understand his many problems. He's not mistaking attraction for lust, he is making the deliberate attempt to conflate both without which he'd have no legs to stand on.

We've seen worse.

mazaje:
vitriol you call it. . . did the biblical god kill jobs family because he wanted to test him or not? why do christains spew all this nonsense talking points when people remaind them about the nasty and evil things their god did to humanity in the bible? did the biblical god kill people for no reason in the bible? yes, did i make the stories up? no, so what do you mean by vitriol? if calling out the biblical god for all the nonsensical killings and and evil he did in the bible is vitriol then so be it. . . .the usual talking points are its either you are troubled , not happy or insane. . . the only person that is insane is you who believes that a god that kills babies because their parents worship other gods will save you from your miserable life when you die. . . . . .

on and on and on and on and on . . . every single thread you come across that has the word "God" . . . over and over and over again like a broken record you repeat the same old unsubstantiated drivel.

You claim christians spill "talking points", the problem is much of your own garboil is oft-repeated, discredited talking points gleaned from other less than honest athiests like yourself. There is nothing intellectually stimulating in your "questions", they are merely the same angry, virulent and unbalanced comments all the time.

Its no surprise most people with better things to do long stopped responding to you. Much better to have you whine on every thread, makes comic relief.

mazaje:
the question is which of the gods? non of them really cares about man if they do nigeria will be a better place than it is right now because no where in the world do people call on jehova and allah daily for help like nigeria and they still get no answer. . . .serpent and eve? what the heck are you talking about? job? god allowed the devil to kill his family and take everything he had just because he wanted to test him according to the biblewhy does the biblical god love killing peoplehe killed jobs family just because he wanted to test him. . will you serve a mster that kills all you family just because he wanted to test your loyalty?. . . .

young man, save urself from an aneurysm. The amount of vitriol you spew each time you come across a christian thread leaves me fearing for ur sanity.

huxley:
OK, let us examine what Jesus is supposed to have said. This is it again:

Your starting premise is already flawed and is evident of a mindset that is bent on forcing his own warped opinions unto a subject that is clear even to the blind. Jesus Christ did not "supposedly" say that, it is recorded that He indeed made that statement.

huxley:
You are claiming that this only applies to a married man lusting after a single or a married woman? Although it says nowhere that it is only for a married man, I shall take it as being implied from the use of the word "adultery". All good and well. But that still leaves my other question unanswered, namely;

I'm not "claiming", i'm simply pointing out a CLEAR FACT that you fail to see or deliberately wish to sidestep. The key word in that verse you quote is "adultery" . . . indicating one or both parties is assumed to be MARRIED.

huxley:
What if a single man lusts after a single or married woman?

The verse in question has nothing to say on this issue.

huxley:
If he lusts after a single woman, does he commit fornication? Can fornication also be committed in the man's heart without direct sexual contact?

The verse that you quote again has nothing to say on this issue.

huxley:
If he (a single man) lusts after a married woman, what has he committed - fornication of adultery?

Adultery from the part of the woman.

huxley:
Further, can you turn this injunction around so that it reads:

You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a man lustfully has already committed adultery with him in her heart'

A casual read thru the bible shld tell you that it is not simply talking about men only when you seem terms such as "he", "him".

turn the verse however you pls. Your consistent dishonesty is becoming a drag.

huh?

Is this Mich?

u'd have to go to ur profile and click the "last posts by this person" tab. Tedious to be honest.

Thor is simple a white wannabe. It must hurt him so bad to be black. Why dont you go join the KKK?

michelin89:
The origin hasn't found it's cause yet. Evolution and Creation are both theories, not fully valid nor verified, we have decided to focus on. But let's move into the Christian optic and assume that God is real and that everything originated from him.

Now I ask: do you think that God is really looking after you or his only interest was to create? Perharps, since the universe is in continuous expansion, so we could deduce that the Creator is busy with another planet.

Then considering the width and the infinite dimension of this universe, why do you think God is looking at you, who is nothing but an invisible point in the whole system? Has your anthropocentrism blinded you so much that you fail to see the evidence or you really believe that the planet earth is still at the center of God's attention.

Then if you insist than God can't have abbandoned man, then asnwer this final question: Is your God that good?

comments like this chill me to the bones. It seems the main goal of the atheist is to prove one thing - that God does not care about man.
It was the same strategy the Serpent used against Eve, the very same strategy against Job.

Quite sad really.

huxley:
Interesting! How were you able to derive exactly what Jesus meant form these plain and simple words? As far as I can see, nowhere in the context does it suggest what you just said.

As usual when your poor scholarship and hypocrisy is exposed you start running in circles.

KunleOshob was right, the bible does not use "fornication" and "adultery" interchangeably. They mean explicitly different things. Christ's mention of the term "adultery" in that verse means either one of the parties (the man lusting or the woman he is lusting after) is married.

Arsenal V Porto

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Last premiership game - Arsenal V Everton (Emirates)

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mazaje:
its more like a culture there hairakiri i don't know if i got the spelling right but its a form of tradition over there oin japan where a person pays or redeems his/herself by taking his/her life when they do something bad, that culture then evolved into the rampant suicides that we have today. . . .

this people are more confused than ever.
High suicide rate in Japan - oh its just a culture, nothing to worry about
High suicide rate in Nigeria - yeah lets blame christianity . . .

di - block
di - become

kokoye:
awon - tongue

its ahon.

Moyola:
yu need google?!!!

abeg dash me. i've looked 2ce.

Moyola:
Repitishuuuun!!!!!!!!11

i no see am o.

Ogun - God of whatever
Ogun - War
Ogun - 20

vescucci:
Yeah and you withstood it all up till now; must you post?

Sucking up sounds like the new stock-in-trade of a certain few.

you're not the one the post is directed at, wonder why you felt the enormous, overwhelming and gigantuan need to respond on behalf of the women.

The idea that this is funny is itself laughable.
It got boring from page 2 . . . it isnt surprising that the only ones who find it "funny" are the usual feminists.

highlights of the Fenerbahce v Arsenal game. Enjoy! 

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Problem solved! Enjoy watching your favorite gunners games here.

- Wenger is always right!

shylladear, stop crying so loudly. No one insulted you, infact i didnt even recognise your username specifically until you started having "an attitude".
Kinda wonder why u're so gung ho about Usher's wife . . . from the look of things your attitude aint no better.

ever green . . . you want to change your name to ever fight?