Bastage:

@DavidDylan.
Your examples are pathetic and very tenuous. Yet again, you show no grasp of logical argument.

Where are your own refutations? Do they make sense to you at all?
You dont seem to have the ability to reason at all . . . you think by taking up precious space with a lot of specious arguments you have shown good grasp of logical argument.

Bastage:

You ask what relevance 400 years has? 400 years ago, you would have been executed for not being a Christian. That rather makes a difference don't you think?

No it makes no difference . . . because you have simply borrowed a favorite lie of athiests who are desperate to show that scientists could not have been christians.

Bastage:

But then, you guys are used to worshipping with a gun to your head. Up until the 19th century, everyone had to claim that they were Christians. But since then? How come that since the death penalty has been removed for heresy, the vast majority of scientists and thinkers now are not Christians?

which "vast majority"? Did you take a scientific poll before spewing this nonsense? And you claim to be able to reason logically. You people are nothing but a waste of precious space.

Bastage:

Or more realistically, he went senile towards the end of his life. Hey, I hit my head and was a Christian for 10 minutes last week - are you going to claim me as one of your own?

This is a lie and you know it.

Bastage:

Is that some sort of joke? Let me give you some figures: Of 250 members of the Royal Society polled, only 3% professed a belief in Christianity. In the National Academy of Sciences (the US version of the RS) 7% professed a belief. Out of the hundreds of winners of Nobel Prize winners in the sciences, only 2 were found to be religious Christians. A study found that "among Nobel Prize laureates in the sciences, as well as in literature, there was a remarkable degree of irreligiousity, as compared to the populations they came from". A "way longer list" of devout Christians? You have no idea what you are talking about.

where else did you copy this from? How did they verify their poll?

When 4play calls u a buffon i cant help but agree.

you're wrong. Your girl first, your friends next.

You know why?

Because when those same friends have their own chics, they'll pick them first over you anyday. You'll be the ultimate loser.

chika98:

*yawnsssssssssssss* That is all nL has to offer?? Why don't these so called cute ones post often then?

Abeg wia foto to support this?

post ur own first chika . . .   I especially love to look out for photos of women who say stuff like the above . . . 9 out of 10 times i've had to virtually choke after seeing them.  

O boy . . . its high time NL guys started pushing back joo.

you are a sad, broken man. You need help.

abeg make una no push una luck too far o.  
The internet affords us plenty of opportunity to at least appear to be who we truly are not.

chika98:

Tsk Tsk. Una too dey chicken out jare.

its not being a chicken, its the fact that women thrive on false appreciation. They cant stand the frank truth.

Frankly i've seen only 2-3 women on this forum that i've actually cocked my eyebrows up about. The rest . . . generic, run-off-the mill chics you would pass by on the street without noticing.

funny enough they are the ones who talk the loudest about "ugly" men.  

chika98:

Abeg name names haba!

Nairaland will collapse if i honestly choose to assess those chics . . .  

Abeg chika make we see cute chics first.  

I have no less than 4-5 chics who cry here about NL guys being not all that who have been bitter disappointments on seeing their own pictures.

No force me to mention names o.  

Ebony-Silk:

But true o. . . .chika, the one behind the guy in your profile looks berra.

to be honest, i thot that was the one Chika was initially refering to. The prominent guy is pretty much run of the mill.

chika98:

Not just naming them. . wia is dia foto to support the claim?

post ur own foto first.  
Too many women on this forum crowing about men not being "fine" when they themselves . . . make i no just talk.  

Kweenisha:

I don't deny her reality which you have pointed out but whe came looking for advice.
Is there nothing you can say since her face remains unchanged despite her efforts

Of course there are things i would have loved to say but i like to be a pragmatist. Its easy to "offer" advice since we have never and will never walk in her shoes. I try to understand what its like to live in her face just for one day . . .

I have seen guys who are scared to approach women because of the way they think their face looks . . . the effect must be 10-fold in a woman.

All i can tell her is to take heart, if she can afford plastic surgery she shld go ahead and do something about it.

tope2000:

Abeg name 5

Na waste of time.

LadyT:

Something must have made her very self conscience. I agree with David its not easy you will get people asking whats wrong with your face
I do know a lady whoses tribal marks turned into huge keloids she have about 8 marks each side you can imagine the state of her face.

But she was beautiful loud and proud I don't know how many years it took her to bulid herself up. She married and had about 4 kids.

my point exactly.

Kweenisha:

I'm sure there's a man out there who would look beyond her scars.
There are some of us women that look beyond just physical and look for substance in a man first (thank God mine came with both)
I don't believe there are no men who would do same.
I said this on another thread,I know this fine girl,a physician,excellent shape, charming personality and she has 2 long unsightly scars on her face from tribal marking and she's married to a very handsome guy with absolutely no marks.

You are right, but obviously the poster is having a crisis of confidence at the moment. Its not easy watching everyone around u get married and u think maybe if not for the scars someone would have come for u too. i feel for her.

She can believe . . . but she cant go approaching men now can she?

chika98:

Show them to me and I will post my picture on NL for a week!

I dont need to show you but haba . . . that guy no too tap like that. Lets call a spade a spade . . . no jealousy here afterall we dont know what you look like.

tope2000:

David, if u were ugly now i'd have said u were jealous

abeg even as a guy i know when to bow and admit that a guy looks really good.
But this guy in Chika's profile? Mba she's giving him way way too much . . . there are a good number of guys here who look far better.

I went to look thinking the guy would blow me out of the water . . .

She's obviously not doomed but how many men are prepared to look beyond those marks? Ask the lady you mentioned how it must have felt wondering if she'd ever get approached by a man. Its not easy . . .

Chika nothing for the guy jare . . .  

Kweenisha:

again David,seal got his "tribal marks" almost a decade before anyone ever heard of him but it didn't stop him.
That is my point

the poster is obviously not worried about getting a job or making it as an entertainer or padding her wallet with some benjamins.

She was not upfront about it but it is not farfetched to say her real problem is getting the men she likes to approach her.

Seal's case was a known medical problem . . . besides his unmistakeable talent carried him far enough that women were prepared to forget his face and marry him. Even if Seal were to lose his head tomorrow there will be no shortage of women ready to marry him.

Our poster here has no such advantage.

U didnt answer my ques though.

Kweenisha:

Seal's marks were from an autoimmune disease and they appeared when he was in his early 20's and unknown but it never stopped him from building a music career.
the poster cannot let anything stop her.
The world is not kind to people without self confidence and she'll be treated based on how she portrays herself.

the poster is not letting her marks stop her . . .

but as a woman it is obvious that who you marry depends on those who approach you. Sincerely queen . . . if your brother brought home a chic with 32 prominent marks on her cheeks would you gladly welcome her with open arms?

Kweenisha:

Seal's marks were from an autoimmune disease and they appeared when he was in his early 20's and unknown but it never stopped him from building a music career.
the poster cannot let anything stop her.
The world is not kind to people without self confidence and she'll be treated based on how she portrays herself.

Seal is a millionaire . . . the poster is not. Big diff.
If the poster had $500m in her account today i doubt she'd be worried even if she had 92 tribal marks on her face. She'd be here asking us for help in whittling down her list of suitors.

tope2000:

Lol . . . .i am allergic to davids

i pity you. You dey allergic to fine rich men?  
i reject it for you in Jesus name.

tope2000:


Who is chocolate delight in ur profile, gimme his number
Babe i am allergic to broke negros abeg, i don't want them an inch near me

we sef we dey allergic to housewives.

grafikdon, i throway salute o. thanks.

Ebony-Silk:

You don forget say na every body be Bianca's cousin. She played you, dude!

Pele i sabi this one well well . . . we knew each other for over a yr before we even dated . . . dont be jealous young lady

tope2000:

Lol . . . . . . . .
I will prove u wrong

Amen . . . ask your husband not to buy Tivo for you.  

tope2000:

Its is easy for you to say
I have watched my sis and her husband struggle with 3kids together, now my sis works part-time
You are just saying that because u r not in the position yet or maybe you have witness that kind of situation before
I witness it everyday

Well to start with you need to make plans when it comes to having kids. Not just have a whole army all at once.
My uncle and aunt did something i will very much like to emulate - wait at least 1-2 yrs after marriage before having kids so you are well prepared for likely changes you will need to make to accomodate the extra job.
Have 1, dont have another until the first kid is at least old enough to take care of him/herself (i say 4-5 yrs old).

Have only 2 kids max.

JJYOU:

bro david, they are the ones doing the exploiting here o.

na so we see am. They use their assets to exploit us.

tope2000:

Why not
I can't just sit and become idle doing nothing

we don hear this kain story before.
Oprah every day.

chika98:

Raising a kid in this country no be beans ooh .

true but it can be done. Find a creche close to were u work . . . so u can see ur baby some 2-3 times while at work. Express milk into a bottle that the child can use during the day. Your husband can be more hands on when you both get back from work and you can get some rest.