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abuse the husband ke? no o.

dude dump her. doesnt seem you guys have similar values.

Nimshi:
Ok, a good point. But, the book of Hebrews, say, what was that about?

This is further example of your poor scholarship . . . the authorship of the epistle to the Hebrews is unknown. Pls pls try and do a simple google search at least before saying anything.

Nimshi:
You're incorrect. Since you wrote "strangely, this "history" is "clear" ONLY to muslims": will you change your opinion if I gave references from Christians? I'm making a definite challenge here, will you rise up to it? The fact is that it is Christian scholars, including Catholics (and a nun, at least) who have adcanced this line of reasoning.

I stand by my word. It doesnt seem you know anything about the bible and its message.

Nimshi:
Although I wasn't talking about "disagreement", but here, I'll give you an example since you asked for one: Read Matthew Chapter 6, with the focus on prayer. Compare with Paul's first to Timothy in Chaper 2 v 8, say.

Here is 1 Tim 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

Now here is Matthew 6 with the areas on prayer - 5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9After this manner therefore pray ye:

What is "contradictory" here? Are you just saying anything you can think of? Have you taken time to study in detail your false claims? Paul admonishes that men pray lifting up Holy hands in worship as a sign of reference. Christ said nothing about whether to pray with hands up or in your pocket . . . and u claim contradiction?

Nimshi:
Quite the contrary. Paul came up with plenty new. There's one up here for you to attend to.

lol this man needs to do more study.

Nimshi:
You are ignorant of history, David. there're many good things you could say for Jesus, but it is quite weak to compare historicity.

Why dont you provide us this history bro? I can certainly provide plenty. Enough of muslims just making claims they cant defend. The personality of Christ has been relentlessly attacked for 2000 yrs, if He were historically weak i doubt there'd be jews and christians today.

Nimshi:
What're you talking about? Do you know the use of archeological evidence? Why're you asking for "archeological evidence to corroborate the quran"??

Archeological evidence is highly important here. It helps us tell us whether the writers of the quran or the bible were lying or not. Much of the bible has been proven to be archeologically accurate. What of ur quran? Why are muslims afraid of history and archeology?

Nimshi:
Of course, you see all you want to see.

Just the same way you see "contradictions" you conjure in your mind.

Candy, a fan has no right to tell a man who to marry. Stick to being a great wife to ur own husband first.
Many of the "fans" complaining about Usher's wife are divorced themselves.

If Usher is blinded by love then why not leave him alone. He loves his wife . . . warts and all. Thumbs up to a real man.

candy:
@david:
We are not castigating Tameka because we think she's ugly physichally(at least I never said that). The truth is, she has an ugly attitude, too bitchy for Usher and that's why a lot of fans are wondering why Usher is still/was ever with Tameka. You can be old, not so attractive and kind. . . people may not say much about you. But when you're TAMEKA(old, has an attititude, bitchy, carries excess baggage) and you're married to Usher, it's only natural for people to complain.
Talking about the girls here not being as beautiful as Tameka, I can assure you that's a wrong notion.

here's my own question . . . what right have we to complain that a woman has an ugly attitude when her husband is not complaining? Is Usher your brother? Are those people complaining in blissful marriages themselves? Can they tell us they dont have bitchy attitudes too? Why are you concerned about her age, beauty and attitude?

I stand by my assessment of the girls here crying, i've seen quite a lot of girls here and i can say without a doubt that Tameka would look 10x better than 98% of them.

shylladear:
[b]and who says she is ugly or u just want to jump into conclusion
well if u like her so much why not go and marry her or rather be the next mumu that she will get married to and divorce after 2-3 years ok
hisses [/b]

this one is also complaining about Tameka's "bitchy" attitude abi?
See life.

If you "hate" her so much pls take the next bus to Usher's house. Are you also married to a mumu? Poor guy.

I know we arent talking about the quran here but a muslim has no standing pretending to be wondering why the bible is allegedly difficult to understand when he cant even understand his own quran.

More muslims can "find"mohammad in the bible than they can in the quran.
Muslims would rather read up on Jesus in the false "gospel of barnabas" than the quran.
Muslims spend too much time quoting the scriptures, only very few are knowledgeable enough to quote the quran, dont even ask them about the hadiths . . . they dont know.
Muslims talk a lot about Abraham, much of what they know is from the bible . . . the quran is extremely sketchy on him.
Muslims talk about "One God" . . . all the while busy quoting the new testament.

And yet the same people come here crying that the bible is difficult to understand? Have they read their own quran?

I can spend time going thru the difficult portions of the bible with atheists like chrisbenogor, i dont have such patience for hypocritical muslims like nimshi.

Nimshi:
Agreed. Paul, the lawyer, is credited with waaaay more books than Peter the fisherman; hey, that's 13 of the 27 books of the NT. Heck, Paul had to sound Peter out on a matter of old law based on sound logic.

Essentially beacuse Paul was sent as the apostle to the gentiles. Much of the new testament epistles were written to gentile churches.

Nimshi:
Getting exercised again, David? Did Islam coin "Pauline Christianity' too? Look at Christianity today and tell what part of the practice of Christianity could be attributed to the teachings of Paul and the teachings of Jesus. T[b]he history of Christianity is clear[/b] about how Paul "came up with the doctrine that would turn Christianity from a small sect of Judaism into a worldwide faith that was open to all."

strangely, this "history" is "clear" ONLY to muslims. If you bothered to read through the bible at all rather than making "smart"remarks, Paul said absolutely nothing different from Peter's preaching on the day of Pentecost, Philip's message or that of Stephen's.

The portion i highlighted in blue is strange to me, in 20 years of reading the bible i have yet to come across a part of christianity where Paul differed from the teachings of Christ. if u have an example please share.

Nimshi:
You're missing the point. Paul came up with the doctrine that would turn Christianity from a small sect of Judaism into a worldwide faith that was open to all."

That's false. Paul "came up" with nothing new. He took the very same gospel to the gentiles.

Nimshi:
Calm down, David; it's only a discussion. And it's not an Islamic one.

I am calm and understand this is not islamic but it is important that as we discuss this issue we also show u up for the hypocrite u are.

Nimshi:
On the contrary, there is more proof of the historicity of the Prophet than there would ever be of Jesus. And, what the Prophet did in 23 years, the older religion couldn't do for thousands. You're way out of your depths to try to compare the historicity of the Prophet with that  of Jesus; there's no comparison there. Don't even go there.

My dear lets not decieve ourselves. The history of the prophet is muddy at best, much of his "tales" are non-existent at worst. What did the "prophet" do in 23 years beyond merely plagiarising the bible? Have you ever wondered why the prophet specifically hated the jews?

Why have we no archeological evidence to corroborate the quran? Why has much of the excavation in Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria been based on documented biblical evidence?

Nimshi:
Tu quoque. Never a valid course of argument.

And, tone down with the exclamation marks; what's it with you? Don't get worked up. Facts are facts.
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I don't see any "facts" in ur post.

Nimshi:
Yeah, we know the books bearing Peter's name. How do those measure up with Paul's?

"Measuring up" in what sense? The bible is not about eloquence or the human wisdom of the writers . . . both Paul's epistles and Peter's contained the central message of Christ's redemption of man.

Nimshi:
Paul, the author of Christianity.

This is a favorite islamic lie. Acts 11:26 records the origin of the word "christians". It tells us that the DISCIPLES (not Paul's followers) were first called christians in Antioch.
Acts 11 also tells us the disciples were already in Antioch well before Paul's conversion and it was in the Antioch church that Paul (who was still known then as Saul) grew in the christian faith for 1 whole yr before he began his ministry.

Bottomline - Paul did not "author" christianity. There were already "Christians" before Paul himself became saved.

Enough of this lie!

Nimshi:
And, if we'd look at the 'Old' testament, there's lots not to be easy about; try having a discussion with a Christian concerning the period of the exile; or the powerful book of Job, or some of the minor prophets? And what about aspects of the Israelite journey? And other historical accounts? I don't usualy get to hear anything beyond the talking points in the churches. No mistake: there're many Christian scholars and many who've delved into these things, but it's certainly not a conversation that could advance with many folks.

1. The quran isnt any easier actually, its way worse and more than 50% of muslims don't read it because they don't understand much of the mumbo jumbo there that seems to be bits and pieces of other stories patched together to fill space.

2. I mentioned earlier, the bible is not for those who are merely reading it simply to find an excuse to criticise it. Its those people who end up claiming it isnt easy to read.

3. The bible so far has been proven to be archeologically accurate and till tomorrow is the yardstick for much of the archeology in the area of Palestine, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon.
- The quran on the other hand is of no use, most of the places it mentions have been shown not to even exist at all.

4. Isnt it interesting that the average muslim would rather read the bible when it comes to stories about their "prophets" than the quran?

Mr. Nimshi, when next you want to make senseless arguments look at your own book first!

Mike Tyson without a shred of doubt. That man made men cry like babies.

Nimshi:
You've a good point. But, how did the fishermen do? How many books did Peter write?

the epistles of Peter.

It was Peter's preaching on the day of pentecost that brought over 3000 to the church in one day and began the movement that the likes of Paul continued.

"Lord, I am here for fornication, I have been here for 7 years, since I died from AIDS. I had six lovers, and I am here for fornication."

Is there time in eternity? Do the residents of hell also have a calendar?

Olaadegbu, how authentic is this account? I see several things that are puzzling even to me.

Chrisbenogor:
I am just curious, everyday we come here and most of us pick up big issues and tear them to pieces. My question is, from what I have seen of the analysis of the bible so far, Christianity is not for the illiterate or even the semi-literate, the literate have to struggle to even fully understand, what do you think guys, Is the bible easy to understand?

you have it backwards . . . christianity is not for the unsaved.

mazaje:
Do you believe he is telling the truth? do you believe that moslems will go to the christain heaven? as far as i know you don't believe in his storymoslems would'nt believe any christain version of such a story. . . the bottom line is this,moslems and christains have all claimed to go to heaven and see their various gods. . . whose story should we believe? who is telling the truth ad who is telling lies?

Mazaje pls spare us your illiterate baloney. The thread is not about your useless recycled questions.

those so-called "societies without God" were actually societies built on the foundations of Christianity.

you have to spend hrs looking for threads you posted in. Tiresome!

Some truth telling

isnt it funny?
These people claim not to be racists . . .

But have you wondered why NO ONE ever questions McCain's place of birth even though he wasnt born in either of America's 50 states?
Have you wondered why all of a sudden patrotism, flag pins, salutation of the flag, terrorist guilt by association are now "important issues"?

Macteejay2:
Africa seems not to be creating impact in world affairs

What? Famine, wars, Robert Mugabe, Niger Delta . . . we are creating plenty of "impact" my friend.

I have seen a moslem on TV who said he went to paradise and saw angels and what not,two doctors came on air and said he really died. . . . why is his story not to be accepted? he went to the moslem heaven saw the gates of heaven and that of hell he said. . . why is his story not to be considered?

and who refused to accept his story? Are you ok or are you just looking to say the first thing that flashes to your mind?

If you want a thread on the muslim man's story go open one and stop derailing threads like an unstable version of John McCain.

I would rail against all form of irrationalism, not just Christainity. But Christianity is one of the most pervasive and the most insiduous. I have more experience with Christianity, having been one and living amongst them. I know little about the details of other religions so when it come to these other religions, I am less specific. Notwithstanding, I have made some critical post on the Muslim section. Unfortunately, their moderator are a more ruthless at stifling critical posts.

and yet christianity is the most insiduous?
You lack mental balance bro.

Lady's posts get bizare by the day. This is just baloney.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=74061.msg2974480#msg2974480 date=1224617935]If the passage was in anyway dissing Mary then there would be a contradiction in the Bible when Elizabeth called her blessed,[/quote]Every child of God is blessed. Are we now God's parents?

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=74061.msg2974480#msg2974480 date=1224617935]when the angel called her full of grace,[/quote]the bible says we are filled with exceeding grace in Christ Jesus . . . are we God's parents now?

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=74061.msg2974480#msg2974480 date=1224617935]and when Mary said she will be called blessed by all generations.[/quote]The bible says to Abraham . . . in thee shall all the nations of the earth be blessed. Is he God's father? Should we build an altar unto him too?

The rest of your treatise is a sad testament to your lack of knowledge and a plain fact that you're not genuinely saved. All this christian formality of "putting people in prayer" is empty wind.

Danke wetin remain after wife don agree? Na to born pikin o . . . 
Tope na you biko!

tope2000:
Thats so crazy, how did u know, i only want 2 kids

Didnt i tell you we were meant for each other?
dont doubt me again.

I see the pishur my mind just dey kuleeeeee. tope is too much.

No o Danke, one Tope is enough to last me a lifetime . . . kai, see the mother of my two little angels . . .

Make i go find that Tope pishure wey i save . . . i go sleep like baby tonight.

Ramsey's fairy tale continues! Bravo Wenger.

Danke na you biko. I always new Tope would be mine some day . . . Glory be to God!

Tope chei . . . i'm the happiest man around here now.  

Na true, Ruby chest size na die!

But Tope dont worry, ruby is not here now . . . we can elope.  

tope be my wife o.

i denied you thrice, when did turn to peter

we can redeem it . . .  

tope2000:
@david

I'm telling ruby

You ain't no saint, we all are sinners  

Danke:
ok,i give u tope,d girl is got what any man wants,is it manchester,or arsenal? i dash u tope

tope go meet ur o'ko

Tope ke? She don deny me thrice. Na only crucifixion remain.