Christianity Etc › Re: The Way Bible Was Written Is Confusing All Pastors by davien(m): 8:43am On Aug 05, 2015 |
flexybobo: I mean, what a wayward generation that we are, and a. wayward blind religious leaders of this generation. if you read Bible, people of the apostles days were more intelligent, having understanding of everything. so what dumbed them down?...Satan? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Responding To Stephanie Rose-GOD is not a monster. by davien(m): 8:42am On Aug 05, 2015 |
Maamin: First does this someone exist to you?  Nope, it's the followers that keep bringing it up publicly and demanding everyone believe them when they have no justification for that.. Not really slaughter, but Justice served in love..plus he raised him up back from the dead and gave him a name above every other name and a throne by his right hand, judging all things on earth, beneath the earth and above. Stop beating yourself up..is a win win situation for the believers. If killing ones son to forgive is justice served in love why don't we run out judiciary systems in such a manner?..and how can I verify that anyone resurrected?...because you just believe it because the bible said so... You atheists try way too hard to disregard a none existing God. And the funny thing is it doesn't take much to do it, just questions like the one I asked would have you scrambling 20-30 random verses.. E no exist e no exist, but u still dey antagonise and talk bad about am. Yes, but what reaction would you expect from the people who willingly insist I believe the same crazy beliefs they do? E no sweet e no sweet but you don chop the food finish.  Meaningless fodder.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Way Bible Was Written Is Confusing All Pastors by davien(m): 8:22am On Aug 05, 2015 |
If you read the bible, early supposed followers of the alleged Jesus didn't just sit down blindly and swallow verses, they asked questions and got answers...but today people just come to be downloaded with the preachers mentality.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by davien(m): 8:20am On Aug 05, 2015 |
malvisguy212: so you know the verses was not actually talking about slaves? You guys are the one who bring leviticus 25 first, the context of leviticus 25 was actually talking about the YEAR OF JUBILEE, now my response was from the same book of leviticus and you defence was "the verse was not talking about slavery ? You are NOT qualify to interpret the bible. Why?...Because he doesn't use 20 verses to justify a despicable one? |
Christianity Etc › Re: As A Satanist, Can You Marry A Christian? by davien(m): 8:17am On Aug 05, 2015 |
I don't see any problem, I'm an atheist and I intend to marry my Catholic girlfriend...who's to tell me who I'm to marry? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Rose: I Would Rather Burn In Hell Than Worship A Monster Called God by davien(m): 9:17pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
JANDRENTPR: My people perish for lack of knowledge. Why did she/he read the bible out of context? I'll be praying for him/her to receive God's mercy. Let him remember that "it's appointed for a man to die once thereafter, judgment. There is no mercy in Hell. May God be with us. Why should anyone believe in hell or the bible? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Rose: I Would Rather Burn In Hell Than Worship A Monster Called God by davien(m): 9:12pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Daniel4wap: I don't beg pple to repent.wen some1 who don't know ur father insult him on d way, and u are there presently with him. what will b ur action. watch d next 3hours * Yawn |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Rose: I Would Rather Burn In Hell Than Worship A Monster Called God by davien(m): 9:11pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
I still wonder what's disgusting about LGBT... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Rose: I Would Rather Burn In Hell Than Worship A Monster Called God by davien(m): 8:51pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
CuteBidemi: Tis so funny hw d ao called educated young Nigerian youths misbehave on social media.
D post i about an atheist... and somepple started attacking d Muslims....
secondly, all of us need to rili knw what God really wants...GOD..LORD..Dis r d english names.Allah also means God in Arabic...
I wonder y d hatred... Believe wot u wanna believe....
Leave d atheist to abuse God. u cant fyt for HIM.God fyts for HIMSELF.. So save d machetes n d negative words. That isn't possible for believers because those beliefs would be the determinant for their actions and behavior towards others... Can you believe in the bible and not condemn homosexuality? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Rose: I Would Rather Burn In Hell Than Worship A Monster Called God by davien(m): 8:47pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Daniel4wap: in d next 3hours ask God for mercy.if not will remain blind How won't they say it's mad when followers are stigmatizing unbelievers? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Rose: I Would Rather Burn In Hell Than Worship A Monster Called God by davien(m): 8:43pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
247notire: As a physicist who majored in astronomy I need to point out that thr has to be a God. That's the only possible explanation to the emergence of the singularity from whence the world evolved. QED. what does your credentials have to do with there being a god or not... And how many possibilities did you eliminate before the only possibility became specifically the Christian God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why The Atheists Attack Christianity? Answer To The Transgender by davien(m): 7:05pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
I call the flash a hero,therefore I admit the flash exists...
That sums up the type of thinking you have. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Horror: Pastor Doing Virginity Test Impregnates Girl Accidentally!!! by davien(m): 7:00pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Lol...I hope this is a farce...because day by day religious gullibility is becoming stronger and more evident |
Christianity Etc › Re: Rape And The Bible by davien(m): 6:58pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
yorubadelta: Those were the days the laws of Moses were applicable. Jesus Christ came to replace those laws in the New Testament.
I dont understand why athiests on this forum are so heavily invested in bashing a God they claim to not believe in.  Okay,if Moses laws are irrelevant what are the ten commandments then?...Isn't it in the old testament too? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by davien(m): 6:55pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: davien. The slavery of the past few centuries was often based on skin colour. In the United States, many black people were considered slaves because of their nationality; many slave owners truly believed black people to be inferior human beings, the truth is slavery in this era was because of racism and the bible condemned racism. The Bible condemns race- based slavery in that it teaches that all men are created by God and made in His image (Genesis 1:27).
One thing for sure, the bible condemned man stealing which is what happened in Africa. Africans were rounded up by slave-hunters, who sold them to slave-traders,who brought them to the New World to work on plantations and farms. This practice is condemned by God. In fact, the penalty for such a crime in the Mosaic Law was death:
“Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” ( Exodus 21:16).
Now is this not what happened in Africa during the times of slavery ? Man stealing? The bible condemned it . Slave mention in liviticus was because of poverty.and law was given to guide this slaves. Did you realize Foreigners could pay the "thieves" without any knowledge of them not being slaves?  Again,why not just throw out slavery, why the run around? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 6:34pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
plaetton: @Tex & Deepsight,
You continue to miss the point.
Consciousness is simply the sum of interactive information.
Birds, turtles and puppies have billions of years of interactive information programmed by natural processes into their genes, their biology, thie physiology, their instincts. So , your statements above are not good, well thought out arguments.
AI does not need to go through billion years of evolution to have the prerequisite threshold of interactive information that would make them human-like. In fact, they do not need human emotions like love, fear, empathy, etc., because those traits were honed over the billions of years as necessities for evolutionary survival. They do not need it.
AI would not learn or social evolve in the same way that humans do, simply because they would bypass all the nuances, hickups, trials and errors of the evolution of human neural circuitry.
Unlike human babies that begin to quickly assimilate information from the moment of birth , to adulthood and most of it's life, AI's learning gradient would be almost instantaneous. The reason for this is that AI , from the moment it is turned on, can plug itself right into the entire sum of human interactive information, and then stay constantly tuned into it.
Now, since I have stated before that consciousness is simply a product of interactive information, AI would be more alive to the moment than humans , without the nuances of culture, history, religion and genetic dispositions. *Tip my hat. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Responding To Stephanie Rose-GOD is not a monster. by davien(m): 6:32pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
osile2012: A king set a rule, that anyone in his kingdom who violates will die. A servant violated and was sentenced . While the servant is awaiting the execution date, he deceives the kings son to violate.In other for the king to ensure he does not break his word, he takes on the body of his son and is executed. Pays the prices and returns to his throne, keeps the blood he shed as human as an evidence that his sons(childrens ) debt has been paid. Now the kings children are free but the servant will still be executed at the appointed time . Does that answer my question of what a man who kills his son to forgive someone is called? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Responding To Stephanie Rose-GOD is not a monster. by davien(m): 6:19pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
What would you call someone who slaughters his son to forgive? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious Section Amazes Me!!!!!!! by davien(m): 5:46pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
God2man: It is an overfloged topic on naira land. They have been defeated. They refused to accept the truth. They know that there is God. They do not want to know that they know. They do not want to believe that they know. God gave them up to a reprobate mind to say foolish things and behave in an irrational manner.
The fool has said in his heart that there is no God.
Says the Bible. God2man. "They know that there is god" *Reads Bible verse that says not believing blindly makes one a fool  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by davien(m): 5:20pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Redlyn: See this guy snaking around
The question is not whether or not god has laws about how to manage slaves. The question is why does god not condemn Slavery.
"slavery was initiated by the slave" chai   |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 5:10pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: ^^^ Turtles that are born from eggs and abandoned in the sand walk straight to the sea once hatched.
Birds will fly with magnetic traction towards the places in the earth that provide their food according to the season, even new birds.
All of this wonderful grandeur you dare to compare to the infantile technology of mankind.
I COMMAND YOU: SHUT UP: AND PAY RESPECT TO THE GOD THAT WE ARE MADE FROM. So A.I should also trek to the nearest hardware store for new parts right?  lol  All those abilities are done by a brain wired to do them....defective ones fail to do so hence you'll never notice that because they are out-competed by the ones that do. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 5:04pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: Jesus Christ! I have to quit on you here if you dont answer the following question correctly.
WHY do you call such a pup defective?
Think deeply o.
If you do not get this question right, I will have to save my time and not further engage you until I see something better from you.
Regards bro! Neglecting to give you your desired answer is not necessarily failing to answer. It would be because it lacked what was necessary for survival...which the word I believe you want to hear is inherently.. Inherent actions,behaviours are still functions of a brain that is wired to repeat such actions in those situations... |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 4:58pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: Of course! to some wonderful atheistic scientists the very breath of life itself is a pathetic random meaningless happenstance! Ain't that pathetic?
STFU and revere GOD. Butturt much?... Try again!  Being an atheist does not mean I believe that and reverring a god for life is nothing but a poster for your ignorance. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 4:53pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: Nope. That's not what I mean.
Have you ever watched a dog give birth to its pup and see how instantly the pup makes towards the breast that it (should) not know is there and grabs to it for life?
Mind you, this pup cannot even see at the time, its eyes are firmly closed and it is a stranger in the world, knowing NOTHING.
Is that situational learning?
Ol boy.
Think harder. yes it is,It's a biological action that is present in mammals that breast-feed...a defective pup(retard) would not possess such a quality and would lose to those that do.. So nature rewards the ones better at the function and they produce offspring that can also perform it.....it's in the genes you could say |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 4:43pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: . . . . . and nor world dogs. Nor would cats. Nor would birds. Nor would turtles. Nor would anything with the breath of life that moves and creeps upon the earth!
Ah - - - The breath of life! Another point!
Would the best AI have the breath of life?
Lol.
Both points in this post may be lost on you though.
But in your dreams at night, summon them. This is sadly pathetic... |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 4:38pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: . . . . . . . And if humans were anything comparable to the bold, humans would certainly not need to go through life-school at all!
Lol.
But did you get that?
I doubt it. I understand that you mean situational learning... A.I's over the years have been progressing in this aspect.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 4:25pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by davien(m): 4:12pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: the king James translated "thou shall not kill" but the original Hebrew translated it you shall not kill" as an atheist , you are not qualify to know what this text mean even some believers may not.
like English, Hebrew, the language in which most of the Old Testament was written, uses different words for intentional vs. unintentional killing. The verse translated "Thou shalt not kill" in the KJV translation, is translated "You shall not murder"in MODERN translations -because these translations represents the REAL meaning of the Hebrew text. The Bible in Basic English translates the phrase, "Do not put anyone to death without cause." The Hebrew word used here is ratsach, which nearly always refers to intentionally killing without cause (unless indicated otherwise by CONTEXT). Hebrew law recognized accidental killing as not punishable. In fact, specific cities were designated as "cities of refuge," so that an unintentional killer could flee to escape retribution. The Hebrew word for "kill" in this instance is not ratsach, but nakah, which can refer to either premeditated or unintentional killing, depending upon CONTEXT. Other Hebrew words also can refer to killing.
The punishment for murder was the death sentence. However, to be convicted,there needed to be at least two eyewitnesses. The Bible also prescribes that people have a right to defend themselves against attack and use deadly force if necessary.
Now the question is,IS GOD KILLING JUSTIFY ? To answer the question whether God breaks His own commandments, we need to determine if God committed murder (i.e., killed people without cause) The Bible is quite clear that God has killed people directly (the most prominent example being the flood) and indirectly (ordered peoples to be killed). If God ordered or participated in the killing of innocent people, then He would be guilty of murder.
So do your research and bring evidence were God kill without a caused. Did you bother reading my post?.. I asked why it was so easy to give laws against murder and yet so hard to do the same for slavery? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 3:43pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: You are much more st.upid and unschooled than I ever expected. How old are you? Old enough not to resort to insults to pass a point,how old are you by the way?....5?....12? Why not address the post instead of rousing ad hominems about the place... |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by davien(m): 3:41pm On Aug 04, 2015*. Modified: 4:04pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
DeepSight: The bold sorts you out. Human-like. Not Human.
These silly questions about asking robots questions are actually unimaginably silly - for the simple reason that any robot can be programmed to give the desired answer of any experiment.
Do you people actually ever look beyond your noses? So what's your point?...In as much as anything artificial mimicks natural things in one way or the other...or you also want something that's meant to be an imitation to be 100℅ what is copied?....  And I agree with the bolded,answers don't poof out of nowhere,they are gotten from learnt data...the same way you could never answer 2+2 without first being exposed to the definitions of each term and the desired outcome....so first,A.I would also learn what answers best suit certain questions...this is the first step. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Cleric Arrested Over 3-day Marathon Sex Deliverance From 'mammy Water' by davien(m): 11:54am On Aug 04, 2015 |
My gf almost fell into this kind of trap... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by davien(m): 10:57am On Aug 04, 2015*. Modified: 11:49am On Aug 04, 2015 |
Malvisguy212,just tell me one reason why god could allegedly say "thou shalt not kill" easily but refused to condemn slavery....instead,giving instructions of how much a human being should be worth,to be allowed to beat a slave near-death and escape justice if he/she didn't die within a couple of days,along with other inhumane "laws" ?  |