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winner01:
You will still need to read again...slowly this time...
God the Son had a fellowship and a communion with God the father from everlasting.

When God the Son came in human flesh, what did you expect?, you expect Him to sever ties with God the Father?...

open your mind biko..

Then it gets to how god can be a son to his father and a father to his son(with no mother by the way)

KingEbukasBlog:
Again , you are ignorant one here . I never said or showed that I didnt know energy cannot be created or destroyed .... Damage control ... I know you've utterly embarrassed yourself here but nobly deal with it like a gentle man

Yup, you only kept asking why it's self-existent like someone who knows why should be doing.......

KingEbukasBlog:
Ignorant post ? Oh ... damage control ... classic davien move ... Apparently you are the ignorant one here

Sure,and the one who doesn't know why energy is eternal(a fact known for over a century) isn't?

It's posts like these that make me wonder if you've ever set foot in a school,talk less of open a book(apart from the bible)...

Have fun with your idiocy.

winner01:
yeah its possible you ask again. Read again, and slowly this time and then ask a question that i have not yet answered.

Okay...not answered, why would Jesus pray to a god when he's god?

KingEbukasBlog:
... you were the one who dived into the thread without any knowledge of what was being discussed about

I specifically replied your ignorant post...which you've been giving one excuse over the other to hide your folly.
The one you're using currently is that you assumed I'm speaking for someone else...which could have been easily solved by asking, instead of a presupposition.

winner01:
Read up the thread again, your answers are there.

If the answers were there would I still be asking?...if Jesus is god and Jesus came to earth in human form, then who was Jesus praying to?

winner01:
When God manifested in the flesh, The name he took when he came to earth was Jesus.....
He is God the Son.

So who was Jesus praying to on earth?

winner01:
lol, you don finish am.

Yes he has....if that is by presuming I speak for someone else and then answering said person using my post...

KingEbukasBlog:
hmm.. na wa oo ... Mr p and I were having an argument about the self existence of God and energy . His opinion was energy was self-existent and then ... ( you can read his posts on this thread ) but failed to explain why God in the same circumstance cannot be self -existent as regards to the beginning of time . So please dont accuse me of lying ...

If you werent talking about energy being self-existent at the beginning of time (which I assumed you were ) , what then ... ?

Basic question,why should I answer for him?

KingEbukasBlog:
... so a self-existent energy begetting the universe sounds plausible to you ? Im not surprised tho ... so why isnt a designer self-existent ?

... and you'd pick a self-existent energy over a designer ?

After thinking of all the things to reply with,you'd usually resort to lying...

Where did I post that energy begat the universe?

OLAADEGBU:
Thanks for that information, I'll attempt to post it there if they'll welcome it.

Well I can say this is the first post I've enjoyed with you...without it steering into a 6000 year old earth that is

It's a nice discovery...but it's not a determinant in the historicity of the biblical goliath else other religious sites would be proof of the historicity of their respective myths.

OLAADEGBU:
Where is the prior 'section'?

sexuality, not religion..unless you also want to term homosexuality a religion..

KingEbukasBlog:
Always dumb ... the question was why should energy be self-existent and regarded as Science and not a designer , God . I never told you to explain how (because you showed how ) , I said why ... smh

Did you see a "Why" in the post I answered?..but I'll humour your smouldering ignorance and escape tactics..
It's because it's demonstrable amd science works by demonstrable methods.

247notire:
Ok. keep googling it. I laugh at u for using wat u see on Google as a basis for saying f=ma in special theory of relativity. The a in relativity has modifications and cannot be used as v^2/r like in classical. Google more to see for urself the modifications. Ur a real Dundee.... Now let me be young man... shouldn't you be in lectures?

First off,let me just laugh....again this is a person that claims to be an astronomer and said the entire formula isn't even applicable in relativity...so has my mention of it in special relativity changed that?..

And when I called you out on your kiddie knowledge of physics,that anyone could get that you're wrong from simple Google...you hung on to that like a rabid monkey...

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... bro no mind them jare ... energy being self-existent is science but God being self-existent is magic ... werey

Yup, and in your bursts of ignorance filled laughter did you bother to know why?...

Any and all energy used becomes entropy and still exists in one or more forms.....it spreads out as heat by radiation, conduction, convection and that heat goes somewhere else....recycled into the vast cosmos.

247notire:
As a physicist who majored in astronomy I need to point out that thr has to be a God. That's the only possible explanation to the emergence of the singularity from whence the world evolved. QED.

And this was where you claimed that god was the only explanation for the singularity...so I'm asking again, how can you deduce that when nothing meaningful can be gotten at that singularity since everything breaks down?

247notire:
So u think I'm a student like u? lol. Anyway classical physics cannot hold for extremely large or small bodies and for bodies with extremely high velocities. Relativity proves that f cannot be rqual to ma for bodies that move at exfremely great speed. its vry complicated and Google cannot give u the full picture. but why am I even talking to someone who isn't in my field and has no idea of some concepts I'm talking abt and has to use Google pages as evidence. ur a pathetic student if u think u can argue stuff outside ur field. U hv no idea of wat I'm posting so keep wateva u just saw on Google to urself. and u think Google can make u understand physics? We shud all sit at home n Google evrytin then, wat's d need for getting a higher education. Stick to ur field man, physics ain't for slow pokes.

Yes physics isn't for re.tards that can't differentiate modern, classical and quantum physics...nor understand why it breaks down at a singularity...

And mind you, you are stating the equation for newtonian physics,force(force=mass x acceleration) which in special relativity it is also F = ma....unless you learnt physics in a dustbin...

malvisguy212:
believe in the bible or not, is non of my business.

You guys keep on saying God kill his son, but the bible never say so its was the Roman who killed him , what God did was a plan of salvation before the world was.

So why wasn't god smart enough to just forgive without human sacrifice?

Donblexedo:
sup.dudes am an alien from.mars! i came 500yrs.ago but I lost my ship..now am.stucked in this God forsaken planet

sure you are, and I'm a pixie from winx...

247notire:
U want to argue with wat u just saw in Google? that's dumb. U said classical physics. and classical physics was proven wrong by relativity theories and of course atomic theories too not that crap u put up thr. and the space ur talking abt whr do u think it emanated from? its useless replying u as u dnt hv a clue abt cosmology or physics, Google without research feeds u warped info some times u knw. That's d last from me, I'm busy with appraisals. Shalom

Astronomer indeed...did I say I just saw it on Google or anyone could merely type "physics breaks down" and get the basic gist of why physics breaks down at a singularity?

You have to be some pathetic school boy with little comprehension to say classical physics is wrong due to relativity when relativity is a branch of modern physics...or did you miss that lecture?

So please, stop posting BS here...

OLAADEGBU:
Go ahead and furnish us with statistics from your 'neutral' sources.

No need to further this topic...it's not in the prior section to begin with..

malvisguy212:
first ,you used the bible to make your case and when I used it to debunked your claimed, your excuse was the bible is "historical on record" then why did you used it to make your argument in the first place?

I cited the bible and asked for an objective evaluation of that situation...like saying is it okay for superman to keep arresting lex luthor?

So is it okay for a father to kill his son to forgive?

OLAADEGBU:
Do you have the statistics of single heterosexuals?

I'd rather take statistics from sources not pulling a vested interest against homosexuality in the first place nor an unknown sample size....if you can provide that,then good.

247notire:
Oga u hv no idea wat I'm talking abt obviously for u to say singularity is whr classical ohysics breakdown. If u want a real argument, u can't get it here. I cnt afford that tym. look for a knowledgeable physicist around u or better still do some research. U are making statements I didn't make, cos I nrva said it is the only way. did u even comprehend or digest my post? I honestly doubt u did. Do some research.

*Yawn

an astronomer that doesn't know physics breaks down at a singularity because of the curvature of the space around it...

Even typing "physics breaks down" in Google would tell you that, but I guess claiming to be a scientist while spewing jargon is the fancy for some..

Archeologists unearthed gath, which is the alleged hometown of goliath, the same way they unearth other locations rumoured and claimed to be the hometown of gods, legends,etc....nothing new, unless you want to say the location proves it's true..which is pathetically wrong..

malvisguy212:
Jesus ressurecte, appear to his disciple and more than 500 apostles flesh and blood before he was taken to heaven.

All claimed in the bible written by christians...not on historical records.

OLAADEGBU:
The statistics in the OP speaks for itself. The OP says: "There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals".

If the sample size is married to unmarried that is..

247notire:
U probably hv no interest in cosmology if ur a scientist which I dnt think u are. Thr are some questions in physics which have not been answered even with the level of advancement ee hv attained. The universe is believed to have emanated from a ooint of singularity also known as the big bang theory. Now the question is wat was the origin of that point, that singularity. And note I hvnt said the Christian God. If u have studied the universe in all its awesomeness and seen a few things ur normal naked eyes can't see, then u wud not for a second think that ll this came about by chaos and randomly. It was a perfect design by a perfectly knowledgeable being who I like to call God. And I do blv in the Christian God for all intents and purposes. I owe u no explanation as to why though, it's thoroughly personal. but blv u me, thr is hardly anyone I knw to be more realistic or pragmatic or analytic than I am... Cosmology isn't child's play, but it did convince me that we r like grains of sand in the universe... As for the elimination, in didn't need to, cos I started with The Almighty and I'm convinced he's the one true God mostly because thr are incontrovertible evidences of most of the biblical accounts... Giants cannot be accounted for by science if we truly evolved, but the bible accounts for giant men that once roamed the earth. and Google this if u dnt understand. so many other evidences too many to write here. Shalim

Again, the question remains the same...have you eliminated all the possibilities to conclude that only the christian god you vouch for is the only way?....
Because the singularity is a point where classical physics breaks down...so how can you extract anything or a living breathing hocus pocus magical being from there?

In the very least, you're arguing from ignorance....to a presumed assumption and trying to use your position to back it up...which is another fallacy from authority...

denisbid:
they were already dumb since trans Sahara slave trade. Don't blame satan.
everything nor be satan

So everyone was a slave then?

malvisguy212:
were did it say , God slaughter his son to forgive ? Dint the bible say Jesus is ALIVE and live for evermore ?

So is Jesus in human form on earth now?

OLAADEGBU:
We can now see the danger to society that homosexuals presents.

How is that a danger when both heterosexuals do the same?