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We are fast becoming experts in bombs and explosives . Well, i was expecting another christmas terror attack,but i never knew it will be right before my nose. God help us from these extremists!

Is this a blank check?

You guys don't know how to do away with him(christ), that you end-up claiming him as one of your own. The thing is,its a good sign though, cus he actually came to all that is willing to recieve him,only if you stop being selective about the life and purpose of christ on earth to suite your believe,contrary to the details the scripture gave. You can't shelve him as some prophet,cus his birth,life,death,and resurrection are sure evidence. All the true prophets of God even foretold of his birth,the circumstances;his life, death,and resurrection. He is the reason all these prophets came,and after him,there is no need for another.
And that was why he said, "it is finished" on the cross.

@alienvirus: every true worshipper should believe in the monothiestic nature of God, as jesus did. But we must understand that God is not the only one in heaven,so is a king  not the only one in his palace. There is hierachy in heaven,so as we have it on earth,and even in the kingdom of darkness. God himself proclaimed jesus to being his only begotten son when he said,"this is my beloveth son,in whom i am well pleased." A son of a king must also be treated as a such. And if you say that jesus himself didn't claim deity,(claim to be the son of God),then you must read the bible thorougly. And then,why did the scribes,pharisees,and the religion scholars of his days often accused him of blasphemy,and  wanted him dead for this sake? It is because they also lived in a strictly monotheistic culture.

@topic: when you say jesus was a muslim,then you have to answer this question. Who is a muslim? Answering this will make us understand and know if jesus was a muslim or even a christian;or maybe he actually came to preach religion. Even when we say jesus was a jew,are we actually talking about his tribe;or talking about judaism as his religion.

Jesus came not to preach religion,cus he knew that cannot save us. He would have fought to every corner of the earth,recruiting armies,and fighting others who believed in other religion, had it been he came to propagate or preach religion. Don't be too mindful of the nomenclature,what's important is believing and trusting in him,and who he was, as the prophecies foretold.

But if the dictionary calls the people that are trusting on God through christ, christians,then so be it,but they could as well choosed another name for such people.

@bashy_demmy: "why does God have to kill someone?" I think you need to rephrase that,cus God did allowed it for a good purpose,but didn't kill christ. There is a huge defference.

"For the wages of sin is death." This statement is settled. Even though God so much love us,and was willing to forgive,he couldn't just say,"becuase i love them,i forgive," for he is also a perfect,holy,and righteous God who abhors sin,and wouldn't compromise his nature and integrity with inconsistencies;he couldn't bend the law for our sake,for that wouldn't define justice. But he found another way by paying the ransom through christ.

Why wouldn't God just forgive? We need to know that, for every act of forgiveness,a price still must be paid;and in this case,God offered to pay the price for us through christ,because he knew we can't redeem ourselves through good works. The good works we even have it impossible to do without flaws.

Why can't we just live a good and sinless life?
Even if there be a man who actually live his life perfectly, without sin,which i doubt,the saying that "the wages of sin is death" still apply to his life. For we inherited this sinful nature from Adam. Its in our DNA.

The situation can be illustrated with a pan used for baking bread. If the pan has a dent in it,what happens to each loaf of bread made in the pan? Each loaf has a dent,or an imperfection,in it. Similarly,each human has inherited a "dent" of imperfection from Adam.
Why jesus? Why not another?
Because,to redeem man from his misery,the ransom must be without blemish and flaws,and also powerful enough to save all,and that's why God had to send his only begotten son(not of flesh,but the spirit,contrary to some notions). And that's why christ is called "the last Adam," because he came to make perfect the line of human by paying for the imperfection of the first Adam that which we also share. That's why we must trust in the absolute perfection of christ to re-shape our life of imperfection.

At least i'll weigh both for few minites;but i just might endup taking the deal. But not if she's my wife.

^Well said.

We no pass we no fail.

Giving total support to GEJ,and yet disrupting his led administration. Total confusion!

Even if we eventually  have a christian section,it'll surely be flooded still. People are very curious, and christianity accomodates such curiosity. Besides,there is no obscurity in christianity.

But the level of profanity and disrespect can be quite bad sometimes.

. . .just had to laugh!

Pastor AIO:
Sharrap there my guy!! I'm still coming back to deal with you. I've just been busy for a while but I checked your link. Very funny. Ludicrously funny in fact. I have limited time so I'll do it slowly over a couple of days.

HOW FUNNY !

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

The idiot is one of the governors with no landmark achievements,even after using six good years as governor of "the pace setter state." Annoyingly garrulous and ostentatious . Well,he can only charm few, naive market women and some conniving thieves this time around. But the major populace won't buy his grubbies again. Not anymore!


As for the U.S official singing akala's praises,only wikileaks can reveal his sincere opinion about his performance,cus i suspect they want something that the state can export in large;and insulting the government not such a good idea. We don't even need an outsider to grade our leaders. We know,and we can tell.

This poster wan break my delicate jaw. Na true talk o. . .am always withdrawn from this section cus of these rookies. But people should be wiser now. You can be desperate for help,and the same time be careful.

Never mind the crookie with multiple ids. Nirairalanders are wiser now. No one will fall for a cheapie.

^^saw the piece somewhere. Had to search the name for relevance. But they are other links confirming the same. AI0 was just posting stories of historical conquest.

No one is a saint,but the thread was not started for this. At least christians don't go about confessing people to islam against their will. Moors,ottoman,and other islamic empires did. And it started at the emmergence of islam itself. The level of hostilities and misanthropic behaviour islamic states show to non-muslims today is sure contrast.

@ AIO: http://markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html

drjayzee:
I have been following this since from the beginning, men this guy doesnt have facts, if he has one he would have post them since, (he cannot even sabi copy n paste, like other fanatics do) he is just beating about the bush, he has seen facts and links but never make a sinsible respond to any of them.

I suggest Pastor AIO should ignore him for the mean time, may be we would have much time to study next time. Because to me it seems he started something without facts and links that will supports his fallicible claims which he can NEVER win, and seems he forgot nairaland has thousands of readers who only respond to post with facts and link to clarify things.

Sorry for you guy, better think of another comics, not joking without facts.

Only a chronic buffoon can make statements like this. Your 16th post,and you're already showing all bellicose tendencies. Crank!!! AIO should know not all informations at one's disposal are sourced from the net.

I guess surfing is your heartbeat? And you can't risk doing something else apart from,cus you just might crash? Hey, but, not me. I gat other things. Just need to check on you a while.

To the topic:its preposterous you think all knowledge of imformation had to be sourced from the net before it can be valid>>>that you're asking to post the link to my facts and figures. I assure you,i got these from a good source. And i don't have the time to make things up just to foster my points.

Wiki doesn't have a mind of his own. You only got what you wanted him to search. I suggest you try phrase like: conquest of islamic jihadist, persecutions of christians, and antisemitism; maybe you might just see what you've been missing this whole time,and read for your sole pleasure.


The only reason islamic propagators and die-hard fundamentalist are not considering the old jihadic principles of mohamed today is because they know that a direct confrontation of non-muslims will be a swift suicide. Hadn't so,the old dream of mohamed compelling the world to islam would have been so revived . Now they choose the method of "selective terror attacks,"to maintain the brim of hatred,which the world is still feeling the heat.

In a world of universal deceit and pretence,saying the truth without meddling your gutt is a revolutionary act;and not everyone will like to hear it,or agree.

And,in as much as i like to confer,i knew this will be andless from the begining because of certain convictions we wouldn't want anyone take away from us.

Did all i could to be there;but just couldn't buy the stiff chance. I can imagine the atmosphere lol. Enjoy!

Wumine:
Uhmmmm

sadly,this is just the truth.

@vadexcool:You get alexia? What's with this autistic behaviour,that you cannot comprehend simple comments? Maybe you're just too full of emotions,that you connot reason with reality?

Swallow your ego and deal with the reality. Maybe you should use your search engine fairly;and not to post some out-of-point histories.

For the first century of its existence,islam was absolutely soaked in blood. The killing only slowed down as the islamic empire finally ran into boundaries in the 8th century,after about a century of expansionist,imperialist,unprovoked islamic aggression. Even after the initial expansion,the killing did not end. This compendium shows that islamic jihad has for fourteen centuries meant exactly what islamic fundamentalist like bin laden,zaraqawi,and every other so-called islamic fundamentalist says it means: a war to compel the whole world to embrace islam,die,or live under intolerant(which explains the misanthropic and barbaric behavior o muslims show to non-muslims),and humiliating restrictions.

Political islam took turkey and egypt,compelling them to islam after they were conquerd. The first seven churches in asia were destroyed. And jews who surrendered were second class citizens who serve islam(dhimmitude)  in their land.

Islam is the greatest killer of all time. Jihad destroyed a christian middle east and a christian north africa. Soon it was the fate of persian zoroastrian and the hindu to be the victim. Before islam,north africa was part of europe(part of roman empire). Around 60 million christians were slaughtered during the jihadist conquest. Half of the glorious hindus were annihilated and 80 million hindus were killed.

In africa,over 12 milling christians and animist have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million unbelievers died over the last 140 yrs for the glory of political islam. All these are some of the tears of islam which are not taught in any shool.

The fact that islamic fundermentalists like: the muslim brotherhood in egypt,al queda,el shabab,hezbollah,al mas,taliban etc,are the one in charge of political scenes and gorernment in various islamic countries not helping matters.

Swallow your ego and deal with the reality. Maybe you should use your search engine fairly;and not to post some out-of-point histories.

For the first century of its existence,islam was absolutely soaked in blood. The killing only slowed down as the islamic empire finally ran into boundaries in the 8th century,after about a century of expansionist,imperialist,unprovoked islamic aggression. Even after the initial expansion,the killing did not end. This compendium shows that islamic jihad has for fourteen centuries meant exactly what islamic fundamentalist like bin laden,zaraqawi,and every other so-called islamic fundamentalist says it means: a war to compel the whole world to embrace islam,die,or live under intolerant(which explains the misanthropic and barbaric behavior o muslims show to non-muslims),and humiliating restrictions.

Political islam took turkey and egypt,compelling them to islam after they were conquerd. The first seven churches in asia were destroyed. And jews who surrendered were second class citizens who serve islam(dhimmitude)  in their land.

Islam is the greatest killer of all time. Jihad destroyed a christian middle east and a christian north africa. Soon it was the fate of persian zoroastrian and the hindu to be the victim. Before islam,north africa was part of europe(part of roman empire). Around 60 million christians were slaughtered during the jihadist conquest. Half of the glorious hindus were annihilated and 80 million hindus were killed.

In africa,over 12 milling christians and animist have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million unbelievers died over the last 140 yrs for the glory of political islam. All these are some of the tears of islam which are not taught in any shool.

The fact that islamic fundermentalists like: the muslim brotherhood in egypt,al queda,el shabab,hezbollah,al mas,taliban etc,are the one in charge of political scenes and gorernment in various islamic countries not helping matters.

AIO:stop this marathon! I think you should pause,gasp for some air,and take a quick look at the context of the original post;then  you'll get that this thread wasn't started to talk about historical conquest and expansion of empires or kingdoms for economic or political supremacy and advantage. The human race will always seek to dominate for these reasons,either by tricks or by military confrontations. All these invasions you posted are still saying the same thing. In the case of the apaches,cherokees,roman invasion of egypt,british invation of nigeria,japan invasion of china,and the germans quest to rule the world,and so on; all these are either for economic, political ,or military expansion and dominance;but not to enforce faith by force. No doubt,everybody wants to be the world's superpower.

But in the case of muslim domination and conquest,people were forced to recieve islam and islamic laws. Jihadist fought to enforce islam and islamic laws. To them,the primary aim is to propagate islam and islamic laws,and econimic and political gains are secondary.

In all the muslim countries i mentioned,who operate strictly on islamic laws,and the fact that muslims don't believe faith should be by free-will,being in the position to decide global direction,they will surely do everything to propagate islam by force.

We know how the northern caliphate have been trying so hard to position nigeria as a muslim country,and we know how sharia laws have been fused into the laws of some states,disregarding the fact that not everyone in the state are muslims. Should they have the chance,they'll turn nigeria into an islamic repupbic. And that's the reason for so much aggression in the north(our suppossed mecca).

^^I understand your rage, bashy;and i know how confusing this things can be to those like you,who are yet to open their heart to recieve its understanding.

Even though there is no perfection in men,and we all are just thriving towards it;christians tap their strength from the absolute perfection of christ. And through him,we are vindicated and blameless before God,to whom all sins are comitted. He also tranforms us through the power of the holy spirit,that we may walk into perfection. Only those who reject him are put to blame.

'll just say am the reason my parent converted,even though i was told. And because there is really something about that name jesus. It works. And what other evidence is there to convince me.

Ignorant and poverty? The sheik had to blame it on something tho. Can't blame him. At least almost all of my extended family members are now christian converts,and i know ignorant or poverty was not the case. I don't think people are rewarded with money because they decide christianity. Its just a sign.

AIO, don't know why you had to dig into american war history? The cherokees,apache,and other native american tribes were not occupied for the purpose of forceful convertion into christianity, unlike  muslim jihadist. Talk about jerusalem,isleal had to fight and defeat all his muslim neihgbours within four days before he took his territory and re-establish itself a soverign state in the 60's. If not because of the covenant God had with isreal,they would have been long forgotten on the surface of the earth. We still have some arabs like the palestinians claiming part of jerusalem today,and country like iran supporting their terrorist controlled government(al mas),just like we have it in lebanon(hezbollah),and we had it in afganistan(taliban).

The invasion of afganistan and iraq by america, was as a response to the cruelty of some government surpported islamist terror groups,financed and equiped by countries like iran. And if saddam and terrorist organisation like al queda are not posing a threat to the freedom and existence of america and the world,the two wars would have been uneccessary. And i don't see american soldiers or missionaries converting afgans or iraqis into christianity.

In nigeria,a muslim will practice his religion in the christian dominated south without the fear of being attacked or victimed. Whereas in the muslim dominated north,christians are most of the time attacked and killed for ridiculous reasons like touching of the quran. You just have to be careful showing your religion identity,because of fear.

When christians say christianity is not a religion,it is to clearly distinguish it from the notion people have about earthly religion in compact. Islam,jadaism,hinduism,buddahism,and others are base on human efforts to reconnect with God through good works,good moral value,giving alms,and soberness. But christianity on the other hand,is God,knowing that all our good works and worships does not qualify us to regain our right with him because of the nature of sin we carry,he offered us a sure way,which is jesus. Christianity is trusting on God through jesus for salvation and the forgiveness of sin. And it is true him only,because he has paid the price for us. No one cometh to the father,but by him. All earthly religion are the same,christianity differs because of this fact.

@kunle:spain was later librated by king ferdinand and the romans. The moslems were defeated. But the influx of north africans and other arabs into spain today,both legally or ilegally is now yielding various terrorist acts. For example is the madrid bombing.

Pastor AIO: i don't know which islamic empire you're talking about now;cus it is evident that al-anlalus took spain through jihad,and ottoman empire spread into europe through jihad before they were defeated.
In christianity,forcing people to accept faith is believed not to be valid. But,rather,in islam,it is by force.

This case if far settled. For there is no other name given unto men,but the name of jesus. For in the name of jesus,every kneel shall bow,and every tongue shall confess that he is lord; (even mohamed) . Because some people are yet to cofessing it now,doen't mean they won't confess it later. Many are even confessing today;and that's why there's so much hanger ammong those that believe not. But what can anyone do,the prophecy just must be fufilled.